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Nov 7, 2010 9:56 PM

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loved this ep... :))

i somewhat wish i had kyousuke as my brother.. haha.. but boy he sure sacrifices himself a lot for kirino.... their father was shown to be caring too (for his otaku son, lol)..

yay for the EDs! :D

looking forward to the next ep with neighbor-girl..
Nov 7, 2010 11:08 PM

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Good grief! It's like someone pissed in Ayase's corn flakes or something. What the hell traumatized her so bad? I really hope they're not gonna need an intervention for every person that finds out about her secret.
Nov 8, 2010 8:40 AM

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YuniYasha said:
I had high hopes for this show but I really didn't like this episode. Show doesn't feel real at all anymore to me.

You are not alone. This show really had the potential to become a top tier moe show but now Im just disappointed. I cant enjoy the show anymore because of their behavior and while Im watching the episodes I only notice the bad parts of the it. Guess Im gonna watch it to the end anyway since I waited for this so hard. Lets hope rest of the episodes will be better.
Nov 9, 2010 2:00 AM

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First the guy couldn't just say the staff was his(or even for friend of his) and he just brought his sister along from the first place. How difficult was that.

Second Ayase is a crazy psychopath. "The TV said?" Seriously? I mean seriously?
Who the hell believes all the shit from mass media? And how much brain does she need to realize that her friend isn't gonna start butchering people because she has a few manga.
Is it really that socially crazy to like anime or manga in Japan? It's just a hobby like anything else for god sakes.

alexcampos said:
Ugh, this whole damn anime pisses me off...

Every fucking girl is psychotic and the idiotic brother just goes along with everything, I'm DEEPLY considering dropping this bullshit.


I'm kind of wondering what the hell is wrong with him also.
Nov 9, 2010 8:43 PM

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That was very good again. Although I kinda feel sad for Kyosuke for having to direct all the hate upon himself. What a brother XD
Nov 10, 2010 8:34 AM

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Jrittmayer said:
I kinda feel sad for Kyosuke for having to direct all the hate upon himself. What a brother

Dude, good point.

But what in hell was he thinking when he said he loved his sister.
That is just taking it one step to far.
I would have accepted him saying something like "I always cared about you" in the scene in which Kirino kicked him in the balls,
but telling someone such a devastating lie... It's just wrong.


Oh, and what is going on here, is the 'camera' placed in her boobs?
Nov 10, 2010 3:30 PM
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James95 said:
Jrittmayer said:
I kinda feel sad for Kyosuke for having to direct all the hate upon himself. What a brother

Dude, good point.

But what in hell was he thinking when he said he loved his sister.
That is just taking it one step to far.
Apparently you, as well as Ayase, missed the context and nuance. Regardless of whatever bro-con obsession Kirino DOES has, Kyousuke just referred to the fact they recovered their lost bond as siblings thanks to the whole situation about her eroge obsession. Of course, the wrong choice of words was done in purpose by the author to once again muddle the whole deal.

That said, if I say I love my mom, or my brothers, so what? There's fraternal love too, I certainly would frown if anyone ever thought I had some sort of incestuous inkling just because I say I love my family.

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Leon-Gun said:
James95 said:
Jrittmayer said:
I kinda feel sad for Kyosuke for having to direct all the hate upon himself. What a brother

Dude, good point.

But what in hell was he thinking when he said he loved his sister.
That is just taking it one step to far.
Apparently you, as well as Ayase, missed the context and nuance. Regardless of whatever bro-con obsession Kirino DOES has, Kyousuke just referred to the fact they recovered their lost bond as siblings thanks to the whole situation about her eroge obsession. Of course, the wrong choice of words was done in purpose by the author to once again muddle the whole deal.

That said, if I say I love my mom, or my brothers, so what? There's fraternal love too, I certainly would frown if anyone ever thought I had some sort of incestuous inkling just because I say I love my family.
Well said Leon I for do feel mind screwed at not just this part but other parts as well such as the whole Ayase complex of last episode. You have to think here of reverse psychology. Only good part is that Ayase knew it was a lie else it might have backfired.

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Nov 11, 2010 6:32 AM
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Nov 13, 2010 7:19 PM

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I made a blog post in regards to this episode here: http://kanjiiz.wordpress.com/2010/11/14/an-oreimo-question/

I'm wondering if Leon's post is correct or if it's just wishful thinking. The way I read it, it wasn't really implying that their sibling love was rekindled due to the eroge.
Nov 13, 2010 9:30 PM

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This show makes me feel dirty.
Nov 14, 2010 7:02 PM
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ArtRodriguez said:
I made a blog post in regards to this episode here: http://kanjiiz.wordpress.com/2010/11/14/an-oreimo-question/

I'm wondering if Leon's post is correct or if it's just wishful thinking. The way I read it, it wasn't really implying that their sibling love was rekindled due to the eroge.
Well, it's mostly guessing by both context and rational thought. I saw two different translations and both gave a vibe that the whole "I love my sister" proclamation is mostly a phrase taken out of context on purpose by the show.

Either way, aside from what he says, think more of why he said it. What reason is there for him to declare himself a siscon in front of Ayase? What was there to gain from it? Also, Kyousuke's goal was, from the start, to get Ayase to realize she had to accept Kirino as she was. Making Ayase believe he was a pervert lets her formulate the strange theory that, of course, Kyousuke brainwashed poor innocent Kirino to do his perverted will. That not only DOES NOT solve the issue, it created fuel for further problems later on.

The last easy to tell clue is seen just by looking at how nonchalantly Kyousuke approaches Kirino and Ayase after his words. He even shows shock when Ayase declares him a pervert, which means he himself thought he was not saying anything improper.

I'd say all that is more than enough to say there's reasonable doubt. Ayase just grabbed on to the first bone she was given that could allow her to retain the image of a perfect and pure Kirino, that's just being manipulated by a pervert.

Nov 15, 2010 9:15 AM

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I really hate people like Ayase ...
"You know you can tell me anything! ^_^" ... "That's gross , don't come near me again !"
Nov 15, 2010 8:34 PM

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This show is watchable because the characters are cute.
Nov 25, 2010 5:03 AM

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So far the worst episode I've watched in this series ...

Its one thing for the older sibling to help the younger but its another for him/her to do every single thing for his sibling...

Its like she has no ability to solve her own problems despite being so arrogant...

Note: If you have a younger sibling you will know what I mean...
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Nov 30, 2010 9:23 PM
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lordzenchi said:
So far the worst episode I've watched in this series ...

Its one thing for the older sibling to help the younger but its another for him/her to do every single thing for his sibling...

Its like she has no ability to solve her own problems despite being so arrogant...

Note: If you have a younger sibling you will know what I mean...


i'm glad i'm not the only one who thinks this. i really like this show, but this episode was just kind of weak. not only was kirino kind of out of character with her inaction, but ayase's reasoning for disliking otakus seemed contrived to me. one news report and suddenly she thinks that all otakus are depraved cretins? Also, the scene at the park seemed at once too much like a PSA and and at once completely unrelatable. why did kyosuke make up the elaborate story about him and kirino instead of trying to convince ayase there's nothing wrong with being an otaku? sorry if i'm rambling, but there was just so much of this episode that made no sense to me. i have really enjoyed this series, so i just hope that this is just one mistep in the grand scheme of things.
Dec 3, 2010 2:54 AM

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I agree with some others who have posted. I like this show a lot, but I didn't really care for this episode much at all. A lot of things didn't really add up.
Dec 7, 2010 12:16 PM

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goosebumps...
once again Kyousuke is sticking up for his sister ... poor guy

Dec 9, 2010 1:39 PM

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Ayase is pathetic."I'm your best friend,but your hobby is disgusting so never talk to me again."What a fake best friend.
Dec 12, 2010 2:16 AM

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At first I liked Ayase, but now, she's a dumbass moralfag.

If you're friends with anyones, you'll be friends no matter what.
Dec 12, 2010 5:53 PM

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Jinh said:
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Kyosuke goes too far for Kirino. xD
I think so too, this seems to stem from something other than brotherly relations. It's really starting to feel like he's a masochist. Getting both physically and mentally abused for the sake of his "perfect" sister. Kirino on the other hand doesn't seem to care about his situation at all and continues to interact with him as if nothings been happening. Aside from being slightly more accepting of him, which is hardly compensation for the familial and social suicides he's undergone for her.
All that mental stress and social stress is going to snap Kyosuke sooner or later. I'm seriously worried for him. And it's not just mental stress but...
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Geez, Kyousuke is taking a beating here. First, the "Falcon Punch" by the father earlier. Then, the "Falcon Kick" by Kirino right into the nuts. Finally, the "Falcon Slap" by Ayase. What a soldier Kyousuke is.
Kyosuke is a real soldier... It's like the perfect punchbag. He's the perfect masochist... Like i alredy said since the first episode... This guy's bound to do anything for his sister, just because she asked so. He's really kind... I guess that's part of his personality. Caring, Kind and unmoving.... that¡s my definition for Kyosuke's personality.

Thank godness he's not always harassed and thankfully next episode seems to be one bound for healing Kyo... No one can't stand that much damage and Manami is the perfect Healer for Kyosuke. I'm happy she really exists! XD Wonder what will happen next episode.

Anyway this episode was so full of bitching... From a Bitchy Yandere Friend called Ayase and a bitchy Tsundere sister called Kirino. Oh goshness... First of all why all of them can't be honest with themselves.... I feel sory for Kirino (her fake friend :/) and Saori+Kuroneko for being completely ignored and called down and mostly for Kyo who has to make all those sacrifices for a sister that hardly was his sister some months ago...

Ayase was so dangerous in this episode... Getting so worked over such fact... Really does she think that being an Otaku is that bad? That the games and animes and mangas make you think such things. She's heavily influenced on the mass media aye? If not then why she's so icky about them. Seriously there has to be something else going on over there. And in fact maybe anime and manga and such games provoke that kind of reaction on people, but like Ive always thought, it doesn't affect you unless you let them affect you. I mean there's no way you would do such things unless you really want to do them... You got the idea and then you got the urge to do it. IMO everything is up to you! there's no way anime FORCE you act that way. It's all in your mind. Anyway Ayase still thinks such thing is possible.

Oh and Kirino... why the fuck you're not straightforward honest! See why don't you tell Kyosuke that you still need help with your mess and avoid the kick on the balls... seriously why you needed to do such thing! Kyosuke was trying to talk to you still you threw that tantrum :/ Che ungrateful shit.... I'm starting to dislike a bit Kirino but it's okay... she's at that age... Let's give her a break... At least she wanna play a game for a while with him... She does have that cute and grateful part of her deep inside... at least...

And yep no wonder why Kirino is a Tsundere... her dad is one as well! hahaha... well more Tsuntsun than dere still a Tsun xD. But I'm amazed of him... really he really cares a lot about his children and makes everything to give them the best! "oh dad I have a problem! A Middle School girl I recently met discovered that I have a whole collection or eromanga" XD that line was epic hahaha I loved it... as I loved Kousaka's reaction xD

Oh and regarding the Text Kyo got from Ayase... I dun think she knows that he lied in the park, but lied about the scene they saw at home... Seriously I dunno how people can forgt such key scenes that fast >> Remember they said that they (K+K) didn't have such relationship? Remember Ayase thought that he looked out for her sister just once in a while? And then you got all this scene of sudden confession that he's actually a siscon and really loves his sister... what would you think? Well I'd think that the first scene was all a lie and that they really have an incestuous ship and that he's a real pervert...

Unless that is proved to be in other way in the LN I think that's what Ayase think about Kyosuke know, breaking any possibilities for a Ayase + Kyosuke ship... yay! That's good... I dun really see them together (=

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Dec 21, 2010 3:08 PM

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Maugomale said:
Great episode, but they cut one of the most epic siscon moments of the novel:

It's a shame they cut that out, I think it would be epic funny :P

rebwaters said:
Jinh said:
K0S-M0S said:
Ayase was so dangerous in this episode... Getting so worked over such fact... Really does she think that being an Otaku is that bad? That the games and animes and mangas make you think such things. She's heavily influenced on the mass media aye? If not then why she's so icky about them. Seriously there has to be something else going on over there.

Actually, when she started to cry, I thought maybe she had been abused in the past or something... Though I don't think this anime is going to be that dramatic...
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Dec 26, 2010 2:23 PM

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What the fuck was that? Thank god the better girl in this show will get the spotlight.
Jan 2, 2011 10:01 PM

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i thought that ayase girl was smart, she actually believved that crap. bleh this anime is getting blehh lol. still good but bleh haha
Jan 5, 2011 1:33 PM

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Wow, this episode was great!
Already at the beginning of the ep: you can think everything is ok, because kyousuke will settle this dispute. But then the atmosphere changed in the blink of an eye. It really shocks you, because there wasn't any of that moments so far in the anime.

You can also see a new topic beeing discussed, namely lying. This episode is all about lying. Whether you should lie or not and what can happen if you do it.

Many other good aspects are in this ep, so its absolutely clear for me that this episode is a masterpiece =)
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Jan 15, 2011 2:12 PM

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This show makes me feel dirty.

Agreed


Thats really dumb move kyousuke!!! You could have bang that chick, we see her trying to hit on you niggaa.. wtf
Jan 17, 2011 1:41 PM
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This was just a weird episode...

theres a difference between self sacrifice and just simple pervesion....
Jan 22, 2011 3:28 PM

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Ah, good episode. *^*/
Feb 15, 2011 12:46 AM

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Kyou's effort to cover up her sister was really FTW

Ayase for X-sake, if you don't like it respect the person liking it and don't read them lol
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Feb 25, 2011 11:29 AM

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I almost died laughing when he went to get some "fatherly advice", absolutely epic moment!
Mar 17, 2011 3:13 PM

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Maugomale said:
Great episode, but they cut one of the most epic siscon moments of the novel:

So that's the story behind Kirino's happy smile in the end? I knew I have been missing something!
Apr 12, 2011 5:17 AM

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"beautiful me is me" such a conceited girl
Apr 19, 2011 3:54 AM
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Kyosuke is a great brother. By the way, how many tsunderes are there in this anime? And Kirino is getting a bit annoying now, really... And I never thought Ayase would overreact so much.

It's funny that Kirino thinks her brother never supported her while he thinks she just ignored him her whole life. Ah... What misunderstandings can bring...
May 16, 2011 12:52 AM

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Kyousuke is really kind.... :D
Jun 1, 2011 6:00 AM

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I can't POSSIBLY be the only one who kept thinking about the HUGE Higurashi reference when Ayase kept on repeating Uso. USo....USO. I was literally expecting her to explode any minute. and Kirino's so ignorant towards her extremely caring and nice brother......

I now officially have more respect for Kyousuke, Kuroneko and Kyousuke's dad XD

Aug 11, 2011 6:00 PM

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Kyousuke is really kind.... :D


True that!
I really think it's kind of ridiculous how much being an "otaku" would jepordize Kirino's friendships and family life. It's really kind of ridic. Nevertheless I do enjoy this anime quite a bit.
Aug 14, 2011 6:12 PM
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"I-It's not not like i looked into it for you."
Sep 3, 2011 7:51 AM

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Ayase is damn stupid for asking Kirino to stop with her hobby. And even more stupid for saying that Kirino's hobbies are more important than her. Even though they were best friends, if Ayase really cared about her friend she'd never get mad for something like that. She would just accept and move on. No one is telling her to like wha Kirino likes.
I know she was just worried about her friend, but still. Gaah, i hate her.
Sep 3, 2011 7:35 PM

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OK i applaud big bro for being a big bro and helping out, but i REALLY want to slap both him AND his sis, for the guy:MAN THE F--- UP, I MEAN EMOTIONALLY. and for the sis STFU AND BE GRATEFUL B----
the guy is basically destroying his reputation and future for her, literally!!!!

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yandere girl is yandere, i'm scared now.


Sep 16, 2011 12:47 AM

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LOL. Now I see why "evil" ayase popped up in epsiode 3's commentary
Nov 9, 2011 6:54 AM

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What? Ayase, you stupid, fake bitch. "I'm your ~*best friend ever*~! What? You like that manga crap? Don't talk to me ever again". So disappointed =( I thought she was going to be a closet cosplayer or something awesome like that, but no, just a regular "popular girl" who looks down on everybody else -_-U

Kirino is getting SO ANNOYING! I hope she calms down asap, Jesus, did you know you can stand up for yourself?

And what the hell, Kyousuke? Why are you sacrificing so much for someone who doesn't give a fuck?

This episode was crap =( Hope it will get better.


Dec 12, 2011 7:49 PM

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Not my favorite episode. I liked that they addressed the negative view of gamers/otaku in the media and Kyou asking his father for advice was funny but Kyou and Ayase's confrontation really made me roll my eyes. It was cool the first time when he stood up to their father, but not so much this time...though i suppose it was a bigger sacrifice for Kyou to make himself look like a pervert in dealing with a girl he kinda liked.
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I can't POSSIBLY be the only one who kept thinking about the HUGE Higurashi reference when Ayase kept on repeating Uso. USo....USO. I was literally expecting her to explode any minute.

No my friend, you weren't the only one. :'D
May 9, 2012 12:25 PM

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They missed the most important at the end =/

It suppose to end like that lol
May 14, 2012 9:46 PM

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OH MY GAWD when Kuroneko's dad pulled a tsundere I was legitimately rolling on the floor laughing. It was probably the funniest thing I've seen in anime, and I'm glad the comedy in this show is actually laugh out loud funny.

Although, the way Ayase and Kuroneko's relationship turned out kind of sucked. I thought Ayase actually understood that he was a sincere guy and a good brother, but that was totally blown out of the water with the dumb coverup.

Great episode though!
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Jun 29, 2012 2:10 PM

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Wow lol this is the funniest thing I've watched in a while XD Wasn't expecting it to be this good TBH ;P
Love how the OP changes and the ED was quite nice this week as well :)
I thought Ayase was going to go all yandere. Kind of sucks how Saori and Kuroneko just had to go away, but still. Then Ayase finds out (she wasn't there for Comiket after all) and ... she flips. Whoops D:
I thought Kirino's breakdown was really well done (although I burst out laughing at the kick to the crotch. Ouch lol), especially when she told Kyousuke to stop acting like an older brother now when he'd been ignoring her all this time. I hope they'll expand on that? :O
IS THIS WHOLE FAMILY A TSUNDERE?! LOL DAD XD Anyways the news stories were pretty crazy. At the end when Kirino told Ayase about herself ... that was sweet :') Although Ayase didn't accept it ... I thought she was going to reveal a traumatic experience in her childhood or something as a catalyst for her hate :S Instead we get a I LOVE MY LITTLE SISTER reveal ahahahaha XD Hilarious XD Everyone thinks Kyousuke is the pervert :P
Jul 6, 2012 4:00 PM

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While this episode is good, I really dislike Ayase now.
So far I gathered she is very shallow, close-minded and a perfect example of the Hypodermic Needle Model.
I still like the plot of the episode except I didn't like the conclusion of Ayase starting to blame Kyou for everything.
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Misuryu said:
FearTheDarkSide said:
I can't POSSIBLY be the only one who kept thinking about the HUGE Higurashi reference when Ayase kept on repeating Uso. USo....USO. I was literally expecting her to explode any minute.

No my friend, you weren't the only one. :'D


Nope, you weren't. I kept getting flashbacks of Onikakushi-hen in my mind.
Jul 11, 2012 3:59 PM

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I actually thought Ayase would easily accept it out of all people. I mean they are supposed to be best friends. For me one of the 'requirements' for being best friends is to accept pretty much everything about the other person, and like/love them for who they are. This was pure overreaction :/

Nice episode anyway, Kyousuke plan at the end was win :D
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I am not too pleased with how Kirino is always transferring responsibility for her situations to Kyousuke when she obviously should start dealing with her problems herself. It should have been ENTIRELY her job to to make Ayase believe in their friendship despite that hobby...Even if Kyousuke promised to help her, Kirino is just being selfish and dependent.
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