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XartaX said: ^ Huuuuuuuuuuuuh? Did you even read my post? Apparantly not. That said, my quote up there is supposed to say "A little temporary safety", not "a bit of security". Look man, there is a lot of variants on the term of safety, at least talking for myself when i say the Sybil system is unsafe, i mean it NOT in the sense that can't conserve the people away from harm, bu in the sense that the system itself is highly vulnerable, in a lot of ways, indeed is more subjective to get abandoned or destroyed than a lot of actual bureaucracies of today, so to speak some examples of it flaws: The fallacy that it is a computer or virtual entity governing instead of a cooperative of selected human consciousness, the scarce man power assigned to defend the system, the way the system scans troublesome individuals which is its greater defense as well as its weakness (this point here is what Makishima showed us, and it was left unresolved, since neither the system was upgraded nor replaced), let alone how a foreign entity could come and affect it, a mentally weakened population, which live secluded form the rest of the world, on that note that will lend them to an state of stagnation being unable to bypass a certain point most probably assuming the system gets completed, a thing that is impossible even if Sybil manage to become global, since with each new human born the possibility for new variables to escape the brain community control that forms Sybil is permanent. Now other point against how safe the Sybil system is: its model to define the life occupation of people is defined for a present assumption, by the limited world of those brains amalgam, apart from the critics where exposed on the series, the fact that it is ineffectively managing its source to evolve means that a lot of recourse are getting wasted, in the sense that they are forbidden to explore themselves and develop, if lets say Makishima was destined to an activity selected by Sybil on an early age is highly possible the opportunity to add him later to the system would had never arose, nevertheless he was killed and the system lost an important upgrade. but who knows hoe much of these the system has manage to castrate at this point, this is what we call a slow self-destruction, when you destroy your means of advancement. And that is what i mean by an unsafe system, which allows to host a vulnerable population, while it hinders its own means to advance. you see on the book 1984 a similar system is created, which cannibalizes itself on the name of stability, yet even such a system that is going nowhere but that is neither dying is more safe than Sybil, safe not in the sense of people being secure from people, but in the sense of its survival. TL;DR. In short the society hosted by Sybil is death, since it cannot advance, being in art politics or science, is stagnated to a lord with limited means, but omnipresence, is a panopticon a jail, where order is ensured but freedom is not. and a system with such qualities is unsafe. on correlation yes the people inside Sybil have peace inside a vulnerable system that inhibits them from growing, while the majorities of the systems of our present world have internal chaos while they expand and become harder to overthrow. Both of them are awful, a system like what Akane proposes where the people and the system are safe and developing is the ideal, but sadly it ended there, she didn't decided to make a mission to envision such a system, she decided to alienate herself with Sybil despite all. On the other hand we do have people working on developing a better way to erect a society, some use the debate, discussion, polemics, others even go to war. Makishima doesn't count as one of such people, since he never proposed an alternative to the actual system, as it was already said inside the anime itself, he was different from your usual definition of anarchist, nevertheless that doesn't not meant that there where no reasons to destroy Sybil. |
| Very satisfied with this ending. Awesome series! It started out a bit slow but turned into pure epicness after the 10th episode. I didn't really know what kind of ending they would make or what would be good, but this worked out really well :) An inexplicable "good" ending wouldn't have been fit for this anime, I'm glad it ended like this. I would really love to give this show 10/10 but I guess I'll stick with 9/10 because of the first third of the season. |
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| Such a contrived ending. Psycho-pass system acted out of character to usher along the conclusion, explaining things to Akane that only serve to put itself in bad light. Makashima, which seems so flawless in the execution of his plans, lets an inopportune slip alerting Kogami to his plans and sticking around after failure. Akane gets her act together almost on command, but her entire philosophy is so ignorant that it becomes hard to sit through her narrative: the law doesn't support society, but society should support the law is mere wish projection, like digging your head in the sand and then pretending to breathe. For a series with so much philosophical posturing, it's disappointing that it reaches the same ignorant conclusion of a typical shounen purporting love and peace. And I'm still a bit bothered that Akane's eyes are at least 3 times the size of the next character... I give it a flat 6/10. Decently entertaining, but tries to be too smart for it's own good. It builds up expectation, but doesn't deliver. Instead of pushing the drama, taking 2 steps forward and 1 step back, it takes 2 steps forward and 2 steps back. Episode 10-11 is a perfect example, building up the drama to a feverish pitch, but instead of taking the next step, the show diffuses the tension that it has worked so hard for by making the next episode a flashback. It's a shame the director didn't have the courage to be bold like he clearly wants to. |
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| For a final episode, this felt weak. For an episode, this was very good. The dying walk reminded me of Light's in DN. The only difference is that Makishima's insanity isn't so obvious. Still, he made me sick. He was nothing but a deluded sociopath. Had he actually done something useful to stop Sybil, I would have liked him. But the only thing he seemed to want to do was cause chaos and death for no reason. I won't miss him the least bit. Story: Really enjoyable anime. I really liked the moral discussions, although I feel like they were VERY one sided. Pretty much everyone had the same view at stuff but they just went differently about them. I also felt that it focused too much on the characters and drama in favour of the story. For something based on morality, justice and philosophy was the relationship/character focus overdone IMO. I love the basic idea of this way too much and I can't get enough of philosophical shows so I still loved this. Characters: The only character I really liked was Akane. Other characters were either too hate-able (Makishima), too cliche (Kougami, Kagari), too predictable/boring (Ginoza, Masaoka) or with as much screen time as the wheat field. Now that I think of it, the wheat field was quite an interesting character. I really liked the way the ending was done, though. The way it mirrored the beginning was really epic. I don't think this should get 2nd season because I don't feel like there's need to resolve anything else. Sybil is clearly needed until humanity will change and that SHOULD be left hanging because I doubt humanity will ever reach a stage of perfect peace. So Sybil or something similar will always be needed. All in all, I'll rate this 8/10. |
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HikaruIzumi said: That is why I think Akane's conclusion is so insulting. She arrived at the same premise as Makishima but she lacked the resolve to make a meaningful determination. Her disdain of the Sybil system is quite hypocritical, considering she cannot come up with any realistic alternative, instead preferring to be deluded by an impossible idealism. Makishima, while flawed, at least sought change that was achievable.Sybil is clearly needed until humanity will change and that SHOULD be left hanging because I doubt humanity will ever reach a stage of perfect peace. So Sybil or something similar will always be needed. |
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| That ending was fucking awesome.... So basically you're back to where you started.... You can't defeat the SYSTEM..... 5/5 for the final episode.... 9/10 for the series.... EPIC anime.... |
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katsucats said: That is why I think Akane's conclusion is so insulting. She arrived at the same premise as Makishima but she lacked the resolve to make a meaningful determination. Her disdain of the Sybil system is quite hypocritical, considering she cannot come up with any realistic alternative, instead preferring to be deluded by an impossible idealism. Makishima, while flawed, at least sought change that was achievable. The change was never achievable. The only thing he would achieve is fall of Sybil. But something similar would rise in the place simply because humanity NEEDS it. This show hinted at it so crazily that I don't understand how you missed it. Humanity will constantly be overcome by its own violent nature. In order to control it something else has to exist. Sure, it's not perfect but people DO realise it. No one in the whole show said it was perfect. But it's WAY better than letting murders or thieves or similar run wild. Humans will need to fundamentally change in order for Sybil not to be needed. It's possible for that to happen one day but it's not guaranteed. Just look at how nearly everyone started committing crimes when they had the chance. Do you seriously believe they would just go on living peacefully without Sybil? Really? After so many people became berserk just because they could? Once Sybil was working, everything became more peaceful again. How is that wrong at this point? Akane hates Sybil but isn't mad as Makishima and knows they can't live without it for now. That's not idealistic, that's realistic and rational, accepting something you hate just because you know others would suffer without it. |
SuiNoByakkoMar 25, 2013 7:22 AM
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| 9/10 epic series this was one of my fav series in the they couldn't defeat the system "yet" but i hope it gets a sequel probably with some new main chara but lets see the ending was great anyway i would watch a second season but i would be satisfied with this ending overall it was a good series. |
| I couldn't imagine better ending than this one. I'll remember it as a great, gripping story with extraordinary characters and catchy OSTs. Really love the series; would recommend every person I know. Of course 10/10. One of the best I've seen so far AND it's probably the first time I loved the female protagonist (Akane, you're the best!) :) |
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| Wtf!? The main character is MIA on the second half of the last episode... What happened to him? He and akane sould be together at least as partners... There better be a season 2 Anyway great series overal 8/10 |
| I hate the word “fate.” Birth, encounters, partings, success and failures, fortune and misfortunes in life. If our lives are already set in stone by fate, then why are we even born? There are those born to wealthy families, those born to beautiful mothers, and those born into the middle of war or poverty. If that’s all caused by fate, then God is incredibly unfair and cruel. Because, ever since that day, none of us had a future and the only certain thing was that we wouldn’t amount to anything. - Takakura Shouma |
| I got the feeling that the ending was abit rushed, not sure if is because I only watched PP weekly and not marathoned it for the last 4 weeks. Well, whatever - this anime in whole was pretty awesome and already took a 10 place for me. While it's possible I dont really crave for a second season; the story was wrapped up good enough for me. |
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Maioula said: Wtf!? The main character is MIA on the second half of the last episode... What happened to him? He and akane sould be together at least as partners... There better be a season 2 Anyway great series overal 8/10 It was not possible for them to be together. Kougami has to live his life on the run. |
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| Wait... Where did Kougami go? Uh, he's on a ship...HOW DID HE DO DAT?! |
HikaruIzumi said: If destruction is a necessary sacrifice to get people back on track, then so be it. Part of the reason the Sybil system evokes so much anger is because their incorporation of criminals into the system. Some replacement, such as the great old democracy of the United States does not need to be so blunt. The core of my frustration lies here: if Akane has determined Sybil to best any possible alternative, then she does not have the right to be angry at it, so her angst is hypocritical considering she arrived at the exact same conclusion. Akane is Sybil. The only thing original she could come up with is some unrealistic platitude about the strength of mankind, and it is insulting, in my opinion, for the show to pass that off as some kind of legitimate conclusion. If she couldn't conceive of real change, then she should've just kowtowed and be done with it.katsucats said: That is why I think Akane's conclusion is so insulting. She arrived at the same premise as Makishima but she lacked the resolve to make a meaningful determination. Her disdain of the Sybil system is quite hypocritical, considering she cannot come up with any realistic alternative, instead preferring to be deluded by an impossible idealism. Makishima, while flawed, at least sought change that was achievable. The change was never achievable. The only thing he would achieve is fall of Sybil. But something similar would rise in the place simply because humanity NEEDS it. This show hinted at it so crazily that I don't understand how you missed it. Humanity will constantly be overcome by its own violent nature. In order to control it something else has to exist. Sure, it's not perfect but people DO realise it. No one in the whole show said it was perfect. But it's WAY better than letting murders or thieves or similar run wild. Humans will need to fundamentally change in order for Sybil not to be needed. It's possible for that to happen one day but it's not guaranteed. Just look at how nearly everyone started committing crimes when they had the chance. Do you seriously believe they would just go on living peacefully without Sybil? Really? After so many people became berserk just because they could? Once Sybil was working, everything became more peaceful again. How is that wrong at this point? Akane hates Sybil but isn't mad as Makishima and knows they can't live without it for now. That's not idealistic, that's realistic and rational, accepting something you hate just because you know others would suffer without it. |
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Oriolidae said: Is it a rare feat to be on a ship or something?Wait... Where did Kougami go? Uh, he's on a ship...HOW DID HE DO DAT?! |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
captainwalrus said: The problem though is that her conclusion is an impossible-to-achieve feel-good platitude about human resilience, so that while she might believe the Sybil system is only an interim, it is a delusion because the end result that she desires is an ideal. What's insulting to me is the show's attempt to sell this ideal to the audience as the concluding narrative.katsucats said: Akane only believes that the Sybil System is necessary in the interim, and its necessity only extends to the stability it provides. The show has reified, again and again, that Akane values stability and order as much as, if not more than, freedom (e.g. ep. 20 - Akane's inner dialogue, where she tells her friend, who was killed by Makishima, that anyone can search for happiness whenever they want, as long they're alive). She values stability and order because they help ensure that people are at least able to survive. HikaruIzumi said: If destruction is a necessary sacrifice to get people back on track, then so be it. Part of the reason the Sybil system evokes so much anger is because their incorporation of criminals into the system. Some replacement, such as the great old democracy of the United States does not need to be so blunt. The core of my frustration lies here: if Akane has determined Sybil to best any possible alternative, then she does not have the right to be angry at it, so her angst is hypocritical considering she arrived at the exact same conclusion. Akane is Sybil. The only thing original she could come up with is some unrealistic platitude about the strength of mankind, and it is insulting, in my opinion, for the show to pass that off as some kind of legitimate conclusion. If she couldn't conceive of real change, then she should've just kowtowed and be done with it.katsucats said: That is why I think Akane's conclusion is so insulting. She arrived at the same premise as Makishima but she lacked the resolve to make a meaningful determination. Her disdain of the Sybil system is quite hypocritical, considering she cannot come up with any realistic alternative, instead preferring to be deluded by an impossible idealism. Makishima, while flawed, at least sought change that was achievable. The change was never achievable. The only thing he would achieve is fall of Sybil. But something similar would rise in the place simply because humanity NEEDS it. This show hinted at it so crazily that I don't understand how you missed it. Humanity will constantly be overcome by its own violent nature. In order to control it something else has to exist. Sure, it's not perfect but people DO realise it. No one in the whole show said it was perfect. But it's WAY better than letting murders or thieves or similar run wild. Humans will need to fundamentally change in order for Sybil not to be needed. It's possible for that to happen one day but it's not guaranteed. Just look at how nearly everyone started committing crimes when they had the chance. Do you seriously believe they would just go on living peacefully without Sybil? Really? After so many people became berserk just because they could? Once Sybil was working, everything became more peaceful again. How is that wrong at this point? Akane hates Sybil but isn't mad as Makishima and knows they can't live without it for now. That's not idealistic, that's realistic and rational, accepting something you hate just because you know others would suffer without it. captainwalrus said: Through chaos comes reorganization. Akane is not doing anyone any favors by prolonging the inevitable. No one is expecting Akane to be able to replace Sybil, but to come up with a realistic solution for the next step forward. By the way, Makishima had the ability to overthrow this "semi-omniscient" system, so Akane had the same ability by extension if she chose not to stop him. The thing is if Sybil is necessarily evil, then people will continue to be judged to be latent criminals by its whims. There will be many more victims. Upholding the status quo is not an answer; it's an escape.Yeah, Akane doesn't have a replacement governance system in mind, but expecting a single individual to overthrow a semi-omniscient governing system and develop and implement a replacement system that is just as effective as Sybil is pretty absurd. captainwalrus said: She can, essentially, by exposing Sybil. Akane's conclusion is sort of like the communist ideal: it would only work if no one dared to deviate, so that psycho-pass becomes unnecessary. Protecting a law that doesn't protect the people amounts to a delusion; upholding a set of rules for the sake of upholding them and no higher purpose like justice. By protecting the law, she protects the psycho-pass system, and in turn Sybil's power. When people realize the nature of Sybil, that same chaos will take place -- in that sense, Makishima's conclusion is much more reasonable, because he confronted reality head-on instead of running away from it. Akane's idealistic vision may never be achieved, so in a way the show is telling the audience to accept status quo, ignore injustices in humanity, and just take one step forward; that is no different than the message from any shounen fight anime like To Aru Majutsu no Index or Bleach, shallow platitudes that serve no purpose other than terminating thought for real solutions. Akane not only realizes that that is not within her power, but she realizes that she would jeopardize the lives of innocent people. And again, she values stability and order at least as much as individual freedom. So, instead she fights against Sybil by doing what she can do. In this case, changing how CID operates -- by breaking down the boundaries between detectives and enforcers, and thereby, helping to break down the boundaries between normal people and latent criminals. It's a small change, but the idea reflects on what Akane had said earlier: the law doesn't protect people; people protect the law. If she can get others to realize that crime coefficients don't really determine the value of an individual, then Sybil's power will erode ever so slightly, and that's one small step toward building a freer and more equal society. captainwalrus said: Akane will be sacrificing people's lives whether or not she exposes Sybil. The real question is whether she has a legitimate path forward.Essentially, Akane doesn't want to sacrifice peoples' lives because she's not Makishima. The difference between Akane and Makishima can really be summed up in that Makishima believes that a human life is valueless unless it introspects and struggles to find meaning and true happiness, while Akane believes that a human life has inherent value and the best possible life is one where a person is able to introspect and struggle to find meaning and true happiness. (see ep. 20 - Akane's inner dialogue sequence) |
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| wow ending could be underwhelming for some people but i think it's entirely fitting to the show (and perhaps hinting to a second season) would love to see shinya become obssessed by the ideals of makishima and becoming the new antagonist since they were so alike (the book at the end anyone) overall i enjoyed this series very much it was mature and different ,original script and sharp and witty dialogues and unexpected turn of events here and there dark tone and realistic situations and settings for a si fi, 10/10 for me and it found a place as a new favorite for me |
becoolMar 25, 2013 6:40 PM
| - Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until they speak. - The biggest challenge in life is being yourself… In a world trying to make you like everyone else |
| What an empty and unfulfilling ending. Everything that happened felt so inconsequential. |
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Ragna92 said: It was not possible for them to be together. Kougami has to live his life on the run. Yes but they should at least be more specific about what happened to him... I would like at least a goodbye scene :/ I don't know... I don't like last episodes that let you guess what happened :/ I like last episodes that clear everything up :P |
| I hate the word “fate.” Birth, encounters, partings, success and failures, fortune and misfortunes in life. If our lives are already set in stone by fate, then why are we even born? There are those born to wealthy families, those born to beautiful mothers, and those born into the middle of war or poverty. If that’s all caused by fate, then God is incredibly unfair and cruel. Because, ever since that day, none of us had a future and the only certain thing was that we wouldn’t amount to anything. - Takakura Shouma |
| Good first season 1 and waiting for season 2 . I hoping they show some more plots for the story. |
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AnimageNeby said: You focus too much on whether it is a far future or not too far future thing. I just said Akane hopes that "in future" enough change would happen so that by that time Sybil system will not be needed. So I don't know how you came to the question of "why would people pull the plug out because they don't need the system in the short run, if she came to the conclusion that they DO need the system in the short run? What could possibly change in the short term?!" We don't know the time frame about the changes, but she is placing the hope that one day enough changes in the society would happen and people do not rely on the system any more, so that it becomes not necessary any more. I don't see how it does not make sense to hold some hope for such future. But since you say: "not too different from where we are now" I guess I interpreted your stance wrongly. But in that case, it doesn't make much sense to say it because of the earlier context I already spoke off: why would people pull the plug out because they don't need the system in the short run, if she came to the conclusion that they DO need the system in the short run? What could possibly change in the short term?! If people - in a not too far future - plug out the plug of Sybil, it would be *because* of emotional/irrational feelings about it, NOT because they would calmly assess and rationally deduce that they simply didn't need the system anymore. Then they would think and be like Akane did, and yet come to another conclusion? And that in a short- to mid-long term in the future? Very unlikely!It just does *not* make sense. AnimageNeby said: Because you want to be yourself again? Because at the end you sense that it is still an alien thing attached to you? I mean, accepting its existence for now does not mean accepting it forever. But why would you do the trouble, if it's not hurting you and you've accepted it's existence? AnimageNeby said: You said "if you truly accept something". Well how about "if you accept something is necessary at present"? Why "accept" must mean unconditional acceptance with no time frame? Why can it not be "acceptance based on the current condition of society and its citizen"? Also, we do not know whether the system is going to be more entrenched -- the system clearly knows it has to evolve and change to meet the changing condition of the society, which is one reason why it decides to keep observing Akane, and so it knows there is risk that its control can weaken over time. In the best case, you'll be making a huge effort to remove it, without any obvious gains. The more it is entrenched, the more difficult the effort will be (and the Sybil system is and will become more and more entrenched in the society) and that without any real gain. Sure, you can now go on without it, but why would you, if you accepted it? Maybe we're confusing the term 'accept' here. If you truly accept something, there is no need to remove it, is there? AnimageNeby said: I guess you define "accept" perhaps more strictly and narrowly than I use the word. I agree that Akane is talking about "tolerating" which to me is just like "accepting for the time being". Maybe that's the difference in the nature of Akana's debate vs the Sybil system too: Akane is talking about 'tolerating' it, while Sybil is talking of it being *accepted* by the populace. Of course, before acceptance, you first have to tolerate it, so that's the obvious first step, but not the endpoint (at least not for the Sybil system). Anyway, it's strange and illogical she would rest her hope on such a thing; she is, in effect, expecting a reaction to the Sybil system when it's being tolerated (yet not fully accepted) from the populace, while she herself had no such reaction. Besides, is she unaware of social accustomisation? AnimageNeby said: But you said four languages, right? I myself count 3 so you must know at least one language (or two) I don't. The same ones as you ;-p, except for the Japanese. (Well, I *do* understand a very little bit, due to all the anime I've watched but it's nothing to speak about, and certainly it's no good when it comes to reading anything, let alone a novel.) English ain't my native tongue neither. But we're both doing all-right, I would say. ;-) AnimageNeby said: That's basically the whole reason. Those people may lament anime being shallow but when they are faced with mature themes their own immaturity and intolerance reveals itself. I do not understand people who complain about it in the anime. (But then again, most of those people complained about the Yaoi part specifically, so I think we know where the problem is situated: immaturity and intolerance of some of the viewers. Ah well...) AnimageNeby said: What poll you are talking about I wonder? But the anti-climax feeling certainly is widespread. See in contrast SSY; there the ending episode got a whopping 90+ rating on the poll, here a mere 60+: a clear difference, and there is little doubt a large part of it is due to the rather trivial ending. I can still see and appreciate the way they've done it in an intellectual manner, but most just feel disappointed by the plain ending. (Not saying it was definitely wrong of them to end it that way, because of it, just stating/observing the fact it IS felt as rather anti-climatic by most. AnimageNeby said: I watch only the anime. It is surprisingly deep for a shounen because its theme about suffering and personal conflicts. That said, the story does not really tug my heart that much - not sure why. I guess a number of factors are at work here but I prefer not to delve into details.BTW, I'm not sure if you're into shounen as well, but otherwise you should check out Magi. It's surprisingly deep (didn't expect it at first), especially the manga. Yes, there are a bit tropes used there, but as you progress, you'll note it's actually an 'intelligent' shounen, where many issues are handled in a serious way, and lots of characters are note portrayed too one-sided or archetypical good or bad (well, some do, but some remain in a grey zone; especially magnostatt-arc is strong in this respect.) |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| this series made me psychotic. the last episode was interesting like always btw the second season without shougo is like an army without any leader (for me at least) i wonder what urobuchi sensei is planing to do. but i have to trust him. :-" |
| Karanomori = ANIME COUGAR LIFE |
HikaruIzumi said: For a final episode, this felt weak. For an episode, this was very good. The dying walk reminded me of Light's in DN. The only difference is that Makishima's insanity isn't so obvious. Still, he made me sick. He was nothing but a deluded sociopath. Had he actually done something useful to stop Sybil, I would have liked him. But the only thing he seemed to want to do was cause chaos and death for no reason. I won't miss him the least bit. Story: Really enjoyable anime. I really liked the moral discussions, although I feel like they were VERY one sided. Pretty much everyone had the same view at stuff but they just went differently about them. I also felt that it focused too much on the characters and drama in favour of the story. For something based on morality, justice and philosophy was the relationship/character focus overdone IMO. I love the basic idea of this way too much and I can't get enough of philosophical shows so I still loved this. Characters: The only character I really liked was Akane. Other characters were either too hate-able (Makishima), too cliche (Kougami, Kagari), too predictable/boring (Ginoza, Masaoka) or with as much screen time as the wheat field. Now that I think of it, the wheat field was quite an interesting character. I really liked the way the ending was done, though. The way it mirrored the beginning was really epic. I don't think this should get 2nd season because I don't feel like there's need to resolve anything else. Sybil is clearly needed until humanity will change and that SHOULD be left hanging because I doubt humanity will ever reach a stage of perfect peace. So Sybil or something similar will always be needed. All in all, I'll rate this 8/10. Makashima too hateable? MAL seems to disagree. Look at his favorites. He has the 2nd most favorites in the show by far. http://myanimelist.net/character/69725/Shougo_Makishima |
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| They shouldn't have killed him. He was the only hope for everyone, he was the only one who could destroy the Sibyl system( maybe)freeing them from their cages especially the enforcers. He may have a harsh way of doing things, but I agree with his ideology. I wanted to sing "All Alone With You" when he said his speech "Everyone is alone". He wasn't alone in the first place, people who agree with him will always be with him. But he does have a point, his speech is the harsh truth of our world today |
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| I really liked the ending, basically repeating the first episode! :D As for the series, extremely enjoyable! I'm expecting another season! >:/ |
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| Hoping for Season 2.. cuz it really bummed me when the Sibyl system is still on.. Kogami's become a lone wolf.. (sexy~) Ginoza without glasses (Hot~) Akane's now a confident inspector (Nice~) hahaha.. xD Well, it's a good ending though, but it will be amazing if the sibyl system destroyed.. :/ |
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| Very decent ending. Didn't anticipate such after weak start. |
| Tsk, this final episode makes me feel uneasy. I don't know why - Shiinya didn't restrain himself from killing Makishima(something that would have made the ending "meh"), the Sybil System continues so there's actually possibility for 2nd season, but I still can't feel good about the ending. I just don't know why. Maybe it's because Makishima and Old man died, and mostly - because Kagari died(there are some deaths I just can't forgive when it comes to anime). May he rest together with Hughes and Mello and become one of my favorite characters as of now. As for my overall score of the anime: 1. Characters. +1. Definitely a score here. Psycho-pass is one of the best 2012 animes when it comes to characters for me, sharing top place with only K for me. As I've already mentioned few times before, Kagari is my top favorite, even getting in my fav. character list. He's followed by Makishima - this guy indeed proved to be evil on few occasions, but I can't help but like him. Old man is was a good character too, so was Kougami of course. Others were a very quality characters too imo - Guseon Choe along with Tsunemori Akane. And even the background figures didn't feel bad. 2. Atmosphere. +1. I just love the calm moments spent in the MWSPB HQ. They weren't the only good ones tho - like let's say the atmosphere in episode 21, outside of the facility. 3. OST. +1. A good 1st OP, I can't remember the 1st ED but I don't have bad memory of it either, a good 2nd ED and a favorite 2nd OP. I even downloaded it - something I can't remember doing ever before. The music themes were good too overall. 4. Animation. +1. Yeah, a really high-quality animation, and it's style reflected very well the anime's atmosphere. 5. Background story. Nothing awesome about it, though the backgrounds of the characters were good enough imo. 6. Storyline. +1. That was one very well done plot line in my opinion. I somewhat dislike the fist 8 episodes or so, but despite of that I still think that Makishima was a great villain, taking whole 22 episodes to be caught and finished. 7. Ending. Meh, as I said the ending felt me feeling uneasy, really. I somewhat hope that Makishima indeed succeeded in manipulating the virus. Firstly - it would feel so bad if his efforts were in vain, and secondly - I don't really think that he'd fail like that, he was just too good to fail like this. 8. Fight scenes. +1. The fights were somewhat plain, but that didn't result in excuse for bad fights - they were good enough in my opinion. 9. Drama. +1. Kagari's death in the very least. Kougami's degradation as a detective. And Makishima's life at all - until his very end. This show had other good dramatic moments as well, the drama was well executed. 10. Overall affect. +1. Overall I liked this anime very much. Especially after episode 9 or so. The enforcer theme, the constant background tension of the rivalry between Kougami and Makishima felt great as well. The very bleak atmosphere of the anime. I enjoyed most of the time I spent in this anime, and I would probably re-watch it one day because of this. In my opinion it's the best anime of 2012, despite I liked very much many others as well - like Kokoro Connect, K, Code: Breaker, SAO - but most of them I like mainly because of some of their aspects, while I all the aspects of Psycho-Pass are at the top and contribute to it's becoming of a high-quality anime. Overall score: 8/10. I've given better score to animes not as good, Psycho-Pass is actually a great piece(it's just the way I assess animes that gives it a lesser score), and I hope for a second season nonetheless. |
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| Quick conclusion: great series. 9/10 I loved the ending, plain and simple. The majority of series are somewhat predictable in their endings. What I love about Psycho-Pass is that it demonstrates how society and the system is superior to the individual. What would have been a stupid ending is if Akane destroyed the Sibyl or started a resistance group or something. The message is obvious, and good: ultimately, everything works out for the best if everyone obediently follows the system. And to the Akane haters: she's a great character. She starts out naive and matures greatly over the course of the series. On top of that, she has a realistic and understandable way of thinking. And she's cute; no "moe-cute," but cute in a mature way. +1 to Urobochi, what a genius. |
| From the ending, it seems that everything repeats. Akane is the new Ginoza. Ginoza is the new Masaoka. New girl is the new Akane. Also, I'm a bit sad that in the end, Akane just spoke some bitter words to Sibyl but left the actual freedom of man and the destruction of Sibyl to future generations while continuing to be its pawn. Though to destroy it outright would cause complete chaos and destruction in the city. I guess she's just hoping man will gradually find a way to live without Sibyl in future generations, but it certainly doesn't seem that way. |
| i just loved psycho pass, Makishima is soo awesome definitely one of my favorite characters . I also loved Kougami, and Akane is bleh kind boring. I don't know if i liked this end, i mean makishima is dead :( but i already expected. I just think it should have second season |
| This was a good series that could have been a great series; however, character development was sorely lacking. My favorite characters were Akane... for her tenacity, Kogame & Masaoka... overall (these two made the anime for me). I was disappointed in Ginoza's character, I really expected him to come around and rise to the occasion; well... maybe in the 2nd season. Yayoi had no presence at all, with the exception of yuri moments (if you're into that), even the episode delving into her past and her reason for becoming an Enforcer were weak. Kagari had potential, but the plot did not do him justice. I found Makishima was an interesting villain, but thoroughly enjoyed his take-down. Overall, this series had a unusual plot and I, with many others, would enjoy a 2nd season, if for no other reason than eliminating the Sibyl System. I also wouldn't mind seeing Kogami again. |
| Well, after putting off watching this since episode 2, i finally marathoned it all in one sitting. Overall, it was a solidly good show. I was fluctuating between 7.5 to as low as 6 throughout the series. It definitely made me relive some of the (unpleasant) memories I had with guilty crown, but it managed to somewhat redeem itself in the latter episodes. However, the ending was quite a disappointment. So I'm giving this a solid 7/10. |
Revenant_Mar 31, 2013 9:48 AM
| As expected from Urobutcher. Why was I no surprised? |
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allflying said: Many were surprised that it did not turn out to be darker though.As expected from Urobutcher. Why was I no surprised? |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| What that? I need comfort. The ending made me feel empty. While it ends rather realistically, it was anticlimactic for me. I'm glad Kou was fine but I'd like to see his daily living in details. ;p Oh before I forgot, I love the scenery or rather the sun setting to twilight to dusk, a very fitting scenery and atmosphere for Makishima's last moment. |
| There was never a definite story. Hello, people! It is a character driven anime! In this types of stories, there isn't any "dragging" at all. If everything was about taking down the system, the riots and Makishima's plans would have happened way earlier in the series. Can't you see it? The whoile point of the anime was not this. It never was. Oops! |
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