| Does anyone go out of their way to watch an anime that they know is going to be poor (ex: 'Mars of Destruction', 'Apocalypse Zero') just for the sake of lowering their average anime rating or so that they can have more appreciation for the "good" anime? Is there any other reason for intentionally watching a "bad" anime? Or do you only watch anime that you know you're going to enjoy? Apologies if there is already a thread for this, would just like to see some opinions. |
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| Definitely nowhere near as bad or low-rated as Mars of Destruction, but I do sometimes try to mix up a few less popular items into my lineup. It's more like searching for hidden gems, than simply watching terrible anime for the sole sake of inducing variety. I mean, an anime you know you'd hate, why in the world would you willingly sit through that? ...and doing all that just to lower your average rating? Are you kidding me? That has to be the most idiotic thing I've read. Lower your average rating with a more balanced scale if you really want to. |
FauxAznJul 18, 2012 8:09 AM
| no, i don't try to deliberately lower my rating like that. too much of a waste of time when you can just edit all your scores to 1 if you want to put yourself through all that pain. |
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| I do it in order to differentiate between good and bad qualities in other shows easier and to get some perspective on the ugly side of the medium. You also learn that the difference between the poorly and so-so rated shows isn't really as big as the average scores here on MAL makes it seem. Not to mention that some of the hilariously horrible shows (ex: 'Mars of Destruction', 'Apocalypse Zero', 'Psychic Wars') are more entertaining to watch together with a couple of friends and a few beers than the highest rated ones. These shows are often quite short to boot and doesn't require too much of your attention in order to be fully enjoyed. I consider the time well spent in other words, even if the scores I generally give these shows makes it seem otherwise. |
GuZJul 18, 2012 8:21 AM
| I only watch things that I know I will like. |
FauxAzn said: I mean, an anime you know you'd hate, why in the world would you willingly sit through that? ...and doing all that just to lower your average rating? Are you kidding me? That has to be the most idiotic idea I've read. Lower your average rating with a more balanced scale if you really want to. Angel_Beats said: no, i don't try to deliberately lower my rating like that. too much of a waste of time when you can just edit all your scores to 1 if you want to put yourself through all that pain. Agree with both of you, especially, "lower your average rating with a more balanced scale if you really want to". It's just that ratings seem to mean a lot to some people, whereas other people (like yourself, FauxAzn) rate purely on enjoyment. People with average anime ratings of 4 - 5... rating low so they appear more respectable to critics? GuZ said: I do it in order to differentiate between good and bad qualities in other shows easier and to get some perspective on the ugly side of the medium. You also learn that the difference between the poorly and so-so rated shows isn't really as big as the average scores here on MAL makes it seem. Not to mention that some of the hilariously horrible shows (ex: 'Mars of Destruction', 'Apocalypse Zero', 'Psychic Wars') are more entertaining to watch together with a couple of friends and a few beers than the highest rated ones. These shows are often quite short to boot and doesn't require too much of your attention in order to be fully enjoyed. My thinking behind it exactly, although I don't think 'Mars of Destruction' is a "so bad it's funny" type of anime; I was pissed off the entire time I watched it. |
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| It is impossible to deliberately watch a bad anime since an anime could become "good" or "bad" only after you have watched it. |
| If there's something i don't find fun, i don't do it, simple as that. So no, i won't ever watch a show i KNOW is bad for the heck of it. Talk about wasting time |
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seishi-sama said: It is impossible to deliberately watch a bad anime since an anime could become "good" or "bad" only after you have watched it. I mean the general consensus of the anime - shows that are either perceived as "good" or "bad". For example, 'Legend of the Galactic Heroes' is often regarded as the best thing to ever grace the medium whereas 'Mars of Destruction' is so bad (which I can vouch for) that it has become a MAL meme. |
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spyrocoot said: People with average anime ratings of 4 - 5... rating low so they appear more respectable to critics? I may be being optimistic here, but I'd rather think people with low average ratings simply have different scales than the norm, rather than being pretentious twits. My scale uses 5/10 as average, for instance, and probably around 90% of my scores are in the 5-7 range. |
| I've been a lot more selective lately about what I watch. I don't usually watch an anime if I KNOW it's bad...unless someone says, "watch this, it's so bad, it's funny." Although, I am currently watching Dog Days', which I know will be bad considering I thought Dog Days was one of the worst animes I watched last year. However, I really can't hate on Dog Days too much because to me, it's one of those "it's so bad, it's funny" animes. |
spyrocoot said: seishi-sama said: It is impossible to deliberately watch a bad anime since an anime could become "good" or "bad" only after you have watched it. I mean the general consensus of the anime - shows that are either perceived as "good" or "bad". For example, 'Legend of the Galactic Heroes' is often regarded as the best thing to ever grace the medium whereas 'Mars of Destruction' is so bad (which I can vouch for) that it has become a MAL meme. I don't bother with "general consensuses" of any sort. And strongly advise everyone to do the same. If you pay attention to such things, your opinion is swayed even before you have started watching something. It happens without you even realizing that. So obviously, watching Mars of Destruction after you learned that "it's so bad that it has become a MAL meme" is an absolutely different thing than watching it right when it was released (like I did). And I'm not even gonna mention that you should know a bit about the show, why was it created and what was the intention of its creators. Mars of Destruction was pretty much an extended PV for the PS2 game, it was bundled with the game CD and was never sold for profit or broadcasted anywhere. So essentially, you shouldn't even apply the same rating criteria to it as you do to your general anime. When you realize that, you'll take one step further from the huge bunch of fanboys (or haters) who know nearly nothing about anime and only follow the general opinion and ratings when it comes to picking an anime to watch. |
Shuhan said: I only watch things that I know I will like. So you determine whether you'll like a series or not before actually watching it? |
| Meh. I went into Hidan no Aria and [C] knowing how much these shows got bashed and thus got some pretty good lulz out of it. Now, when an anime pisses me off even when I lower expectations, then we have a problem. *coughuminekocough* |
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seishi-sama said: spyrocoot said: seishi-sama said: It is impossible to deliberately watch a bad anime since an anime could become "good" or "bad" only after you have watched it. I mean the general consensus of the anime - shows that are either perceived as "good" or "bad". For example, 'Legend of the Galactic Heroes' is often regarded as the best thing to ever grace the medium whereas 'Mars of Destruction' is so bad (which I can vouch for) that it has become a MAL meme. I don't bother with "general consensuses" of any sort. And strongly advise everyone to do the same. If you pay attention to such things, your opinion is swayed even before you have started watching something. It happens without you even realizing that. So obviously, watching Mars of Destruction after you learned that "it's so bad that it has become a MAL meme" is an absolutely different thing than watching it right when it was released (like I did). And I'm not even gonna mention that you should know a bit about the show, why was it created and what was the intention of its creators. Mars of Destruction was pretty much an extended PV for the PS2 game, it was bundled with the game CD and was never sold for profit or broadcasted anywhere. So essentially, you shouldn't even apply the same rating criteria to it as you do to your general anime. When you realize that, you'll take one step further from the huge bunch of fanboys (or haters) who know nearly nothing about anime and only follow the general opinion and ratings when it comes to picking an anime to watch. But then of course, most of us don't have an unlimited supply of time just to watch anime. Seeing ratings and going with the general opinion when picking anime allows one to more efficiently find and watch quality when one's entertainment time is limited by the rest of life. |
| I purposely seek out 'bad' anime, simply because I enjoy the pain the comes with sitting through terrible movies, anime, etc. I don't do it to lower my score, I just do it to say I've seen it and have endured it's wrath. DYRE said: Well... I did just try to watch Queen's Blade the other day. I managed to get 5 episodes into it before quitting in frustration. This right here. That frustration. I love that frustration, the challenge. It drives me and pushes me through anime like that. |
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| Yeah, but only if it's not too long. I want to appreciate the good anime in the world, not torture myself. |
I don't bother with "general consensuses" of any sort. And strongly advise everyone to do the same. If you pay attention to such things, your opinion is swayed even before you have started watching something. It happens without you even realizing that. So obviously, watching Mars of Destruction after you learned that "it's so bad that it has become a MAL meme" is an absolutely different thing than watching it right when it was released (like I did). And I'm not even gonna mention that you should know a bit about the show, why was it created and what was the intention of its creators. Mars of Destruction was pretty much an extended PV for the PS2 game, it was bundled with the game CD and was never sold for profit or broadcasted anywhere. So essentially, you shouldn't even apply the same rating criteria to it as you do to your general anime. When you realize that, you'll take one step further from the huge bunch of fanboys (or haters) who know nearly nothing about anime and only follow the general opinion and ratings when it comes to picking an anime to watch. I use MAL to keep organised when watching anime (what anime I have completed, what episode I am on in an ongoing series, etc.), interact with other users in the forums and, above all, find anime that I think I may like. To avoid watching "crap", I read reviews of these shows. Too many times have I gone into an anime, American TV show or any other form of entertainment with no prior knowledge and come out of it believing that my time would've been spent more productively watching paint dry. The fact that I may have read six reviews that give an anime a perfect rating will obviously sway my opinion to some degree even without realising it; nothing can be done about that. When I watched 'Mars of Destruction', I went into it expecting very little, admittedly. But let's be honest, even if it wasn't broadcasted or sold for profit, it's shit. Nothing changes that. As long as you don't berate an anime for not living up to the hype, I don't really see a problem. "Mars of Destruction was pretty much an extended PV for the PS2 game..." Kind of explains why it felt like an old turn based video game. |
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| Depends really... we talking the last airbender kind of bad, or the room kind of bad. I'll watch a terrible terrible anime (or movie or tv show for that matter) if its that wonderful kind of hilarious awfulness that must be seen to just relish in how dumb man can be. But for the most part I find anime doesn't make quite as many comic gems as america does in the "bad but funny" department... so generally I stay away from bad anime. |
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leingodf8 said: Depends really... we talking the last airbender kind of bad, or the room kind of bad. I'll watch a terrible terrible anime (or movie or tv show for that matter) if its that wonderful kind of hilarious awfulness that must be seen to just relish in how dumb man can be. But for the most part I find anime doesn't make quite as many comic gems as america does in the "bad but funny" department... so generally I stay away from bad anime. 'Jack and Jill' <- good example? Or 'Meet the Spartans', even? |
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spyrocoot said: \ 'Jack and Jill' <- good example? Or 'Meet the Spartans', even? Jack and Jill wasn't 'bad but funny' in the least. It was just straight painful to endure. I think something more like..Superbabies: Baby Geniuses 2. |
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lordzeru said: spyrocoot said: 'Jack and Jill' <- good example? Or 'Meet the Spartans', even? Jack and Jill wasn't 'bad but funny' in the least. It was just straight painful to endure. I think something more like..Superbabies: Baby Geniuses 2. You seriously managed to finish 'Superbabies: Baby Geniuses 2'? You must be the manliest man on MAL, that shit was too much for me. |
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spyrocoot said: You seriously managed to finish 'Superbabies: Baby Geniuses 2'? You must be the manliest man on MAL, that shit was too much for me. Yes, I did manage to finish said movie. It might've left some lingering brain damage that might affect me a few years down the road, but yes. I think Zombie Nation and Hobgoblins would also fall into the bad but funny category. |
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lordzeru said: spyrocoot said: You seriously managed to finish 'Superbabies: Baby Geniuses 2'? You must be the manliest man on MAL, that shit was too much for me. Yes, I did manage to finish said movie. It might've left some lingering brain damage that might affect me a few years down the road, but yes. I think Zombie Nation and Hobgoblins would also fall into the bad but funny category. This is a huge achievement. When you're an old man, wearing slippers, rocking back and forth on your wooden chair and blowing smoke from your vintage smoking pipe, you'll be able to look back and say, "I did the impossible". That lingering brain damage will all be worth it. As for 'Zombie Nation' and 'Hobgoblins', I'm going to be a pussy and stay the fuck away. |
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| I only watch so bad it's good anime. Ex. School Days. |
Uberchu said: I only watch so bad it's good anime. Ex. School Days. I never did see the obsession with School Days... all it has going for it is one decent piece of symbolism. |
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spyrocoot said: As for 'Zombie Nation' and 'Hobgoblins', I'm going to be a pussy and stay the fuck away. No! Go seek out Hobgoblins and challenge this. There is a very memorable scene where one of the goblins attacks a human, and it's very obvious they're wrestling a hand puppet, and even with the dark lighting, you can see the persons arm coming out of the hand puppet. It's a god damn riot. A must see. Uberchu said: I only watch so bad it's good anime. Ex. School Days. School Days was only bad for it's horrendous main character and everything he did in said series. The ending was, admittedly, pretty god damn hilarious. But it wasn't so bad that it was good, in my eyes. It was just straight bad. |
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lordzeru said: spyrocoot said: As for 'Zombie Nation' and 'Hobgoblins', I'm going to be a pussy and stay the fuck away. No! Go seek out Hobgoblins and challenge this. There is a very memorable scene where one of the goblins attacks a human, and it's very obvious they're wrestling a hand puppet, and even with the dark lighting, you can see the persons arm coming out of the hand puppet. It's a god damn riot. A must see. It sounds very... hectic. You'd think they'd re-take the scene, lol. Edit: 69 POSTS YES! |
spyrocootJul 18, 2012 9:56 AM
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| If I don't enjoy something I wont watch it. |
SRTHGV said: If I don't enjoy something I wont watch it. How do you know you don't enjoy it if you don't watch it? |
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| I find people with awful taste and watch things from the bottoms of their list. Have found some good stuff doing that. |
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| Anyway I watch things that are crap out of interest and for a laugh. Everyone said Mars of destruction was awful so I had to see it. Its the exact same reason I want to see birdemic so much You sir must be incredibly patient and brave. I lost a bit of my soul after sitting through the first one. lordzeru said: spyrocoot said: You seriously managed to finish 'Superbabies: Baby Geniuses 2'? You must be the manliest man on MAL, that shit was too much for me. Yes, I did manage to finish said movie. It might've left some lingering brain damage that might affect me a few years down the road, but yes. I think Zombie Nation and Hobgoblins would also fall into the bad but funny category. |
KeiranShikari said: I find people with awful taste and watch things from the bottoms of their list. Have found some good stuff doing that. Interesting... I may have to try that out some time. |
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| Not once have I done this. In actuality I have a tendency to avoid anything with a score below 7. (Unless it's borderline 7). It has been a rough guideline for ages and it works. |
lordzeru said: SRTHGV said: If I don't enjoy something I wont watch it. How do you know you don't enjoy it if you don't watch it? If the premise is interesting I'll start watching it. I don't specifically go out of my way to watch either a "good" or a "bad" show. If I'm not enjoying the show to a certain degree I end up dropping it when I feel it has nothing more left to offer. |
ProdiGene said: Nah, I've got better things to do, like getting laid. Haha, I agree with Seishi on the point that one can't predetermine and tag something as "good" or "bad" unless he or she has watched it on a complete basis. Though, yes, one, like me, does tend to not watch any of those infamous "bad" material before those so-called "good" material; with that having the contradiction that even those so-called "good" material can turn out to be complete shit, FLCL for example. Can't say I'm the same way with my viewings. I do my viewings of anime in succession most of the time, however. I will watch a 'bad' anime, something that is without a doubt going to be terrible, and then follow it up by viewing an anime that is suppose to be 'good'. Chances are, I'm going to have lingering effects from the terrible anime that the anime that I probably wouldn't have enjoyed as much before, is all of a sudden a lot better and more tolerable to complete if watched directly after viewing the bad anime. It's kind of like looking at an 'ugly' person, then looking at an 'average' person, and when in comparison, the 'average' person's looks are enhanced by the one they're being compared to. |
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KeiranShikari said: I find people with awful taste and watch things from the bottoms of their list. Have found some good stuff doing that. Haha that's an interesting method. I wouldn't watch an anime that there's no chance I'd like. Doing just to brag about your average is even worse. with that having the contradiction that even those so-called "good" material can turn out to be complete shit, FLCL for example. Oh dear... |
on lordzeru said: ProdiGene said: Nah, I've got better things to do, like getting laid. Haha, I agree with Seishi on the point that one can't predetermine and tag something as "good" or "bad" unless he or she has watched it on a complete basis. Though, yes, one, like me, does tend to not watch any of those infamous "bad" material before those so-called "good" material; with that having the contradiction that even those so-called "good" material can turn out to be complete shit, FLCL for example. Can't say I'm the same way with my viewings. I do my viewings of anime in succession most of the time, however. I will watch a 'bad' anime, something that is without a doubt going to be terrible, and then follow it up by viewing an anime that is suppose to be 'good'. Chances are, I'm going to have lingering effects from the terrible anime that the anime that I probably wouldn't have enjoyed as much before, is all of a sudden a lot better and more tolerable to complete if watched directly after viewing the bad anime. It's kind of like looking at an 'ugly' person, then looking at an 'average' person, and when in comparison, the 'average' person's looks are enhanced by the one they're being compared to. lordzeru put it pretty nicely. As far as I'm concerned, you need to understand what a "bad" anime is so you can truly appreciate the gems. |
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Tiago97 said: Shuhan said: I only watch things that I know I will like. So you determine whether you'll like a series or not before actually watching it? Yes, i make a predetermined decision whether or not i'll like by looking at screens and reading the summary and reading about the characters. |
| Everything I may complete is because I WANT to. |
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| Yep; I deliberately watched Mars of Destruction because it's the worst rated anime on this site; and then deliberately rated it 1. |
| No. Most of my very low ratings come from "back in the day" when you watched whatever you could get your hands on. Too much good stuff available to waste time on the irreverent. However, I don't let other people's ratings get in the way of checking something out. I frequently like what others don't. |
| -animeS - The plural of anime is anime. More than one deer is still deer. There is no damn "s". -epic |ˈepik| noun•a work portraying heroic deeds/adventures covering an long period of time - adjective • heroic/grand in scale or character Active Military, Prior Service, and Veteran's Anime Club http://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=25937&time=1299710079 |
Shuhan said: Tiago97 said: Shuhan said: I only watch things that I know I will like. So you determine whether you'll like a series or not before actually watching it? Yes, i make a predetermined decision whether or not i'll like by looking at screens and reading the summary and reading about the characters. Ha, I knew it. |
| I only watch anime that I know I'm going to enjoy. My average must probably be somewhere around 8/10. I don't care if people think I rate too generously because of that. I rate on enjoyment/ overall impression according to the labels: Good, Very Good, Great, Masterpiece, etc. |
NyaaJul 18, 2012 12:39 PM
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| Yes, when I feel masochistic. |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
| After I watched part of Najica s**t tactics I started reading reviews and going off of what sounds good, rather than just buying all the crap noone wants off of ebay... |
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