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Jan 28, 2012 12:56 PM

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Damn, Inori can handle herself! Finally we saw Tsugumi's void power as well. That clone/hologram power really came in handy immediately huh?

I'm glad Shu is getting more and more confident each episode. His character is really growing on me (unlike a certain Yukiteru from another currently airing series). He's getting more recognition too. They saw what he is capable of against that Endlave and on stage. Let's see how he'll fare as a leader.

That Void ranking system really goes against Shu's and the Undertakers morals. Suddenly not everyone is equal, but the ones with the strongest void are the most valuable.

All in all I'm really liking this part of the series now. I'm really curious about the plan they'll come up with to escape the quarantine zone.

Jan 28, 2012 1:27 PM

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the atmosphere is getting darker, the characters are getting a grip and Segai and Daryl are getting more appearances. I really like where this is going...! ;)
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Jan 28, 2012 2:06 PM

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InoriYuzuriha said:
Love this.
Damn
5/5 like ever xDD


Inori is scary. AND SHU...BADASS.

Yup. I got the same thoughts.

I also like how Hare's Void is ranked very high, and how Inori's is "over 9000" (well at least over 2k to be fair :P).
Meaning, Hare's "healing" Void has very high capabilities, not necessarily like reviving the dead (though it might), but like being able to restore things like buildings getting blown up, and repairing Mecha (Endslaves)... could be very awesome and useful.
Inori's just badass, nothing else to comment on.
Jan 28, 2012 2:10 PM

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id give this a 5/5

inori is def wut keeps me wanting more, still this show is pretty awesome overall
Oh lawd. Here you go:

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=388563

Don't think with your dick.


LOL nice one. People sure have some funny post about inori, and no this show is just ok now, the first 2 ep ripping off other anime.


I fixed that for you...


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having inori as favourite character = stupid?

oh lord....

Crazy unofficial rules around here isn't it? lol. Its the same people going on with the Inori attack from almost the beginning. Its funny as hell to see them show so much dedicated hate.


Not crazy, she is what I would call a "lemon heroine". She looks very beautiful(that I cannot argue with) but lack inner continents that make her interesting, or even CHEMISTRY with the main character. When the series is so badly handled, we would talk about the characters... Well the character didn't start off exactly "good", so thus all the hate on her, I strongly dislike her btw.

Oh, another factor is that a character with seemingly much better chemistry with Shu exists in the series. IMO if I wrote this story I would have made either Ayase or Hare as the main heroine...... Inori can just be a slave
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Jan 28, 2012 2:11 PM

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StormViruz said:
Where are the teachers/personnel in their school?

If I remember it correctly, Voids are the reflection of the inner side of a person.
I can't somehow relate Tsugumi's void with her feelings inside. :/

WTH?? Inori have to go that far??

WOW, SHU YOU'RE SO BADAS-
Wait. You can draw voids without looking and already knew what his void looks like?

I was thinking the same about the school personnel. Well it isn't that important, and if the explanation was already given then I missed it, so meh.

And I like what Inori did there. I expected it, but it was still nice to see... I'm tired of the heroine being always the damsel in distress.
Jan 28, 2012 2:48 PM

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kahru said:
Woah, masterpiece. My first 10/10. Fucking awesome.

cant tell if sarcasm or not

overall good ep, lots of potential for the second half to save the mixxed first half, shu was pretty badass when he took down that guy with the gun like no sweat, looking forword to seeing the badass shu shown in the op

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Jan 28, 2012 5:41 PM

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Hold on, NO ONE FOUND THE BODIES?? A complete copy of LoGH yet again. Friend dies, something happens and now becomes "king"
Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone
Jan 28, 2012 6:01 PM
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better than the first half. good sign.
bla bla bla
The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
Jan 28, 2012 7:31 PM

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Confucius said:
Hold on, NO ONE FOUND THE BODIES?? A complete copy of LoGH yet again. Friend dies, something happens and now becomes "king"
logh is not the first story to do that, its a story trope that has existed for centuries in storytelling. unless you think stories written in the 1600's are rip off's a of a late 1980's/90's anime then you got a big problem with your phycee

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Jan 28, 2012 7:50 PM
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MorningGlory said:
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having inori as favourite character = stupid?

oh lord....

Don't worry, it's the equivalent of having Angel Beats! on your favorites. He's just butthurt.

If I didn't make sense, since apparently liking Inori=Stupid,
Angel Beats!=Stupid. I can at least laugh at her sometimes.

If that didn't make sense either, whatever, I don't care. I give up.

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kahru said:
Woah, masterpiece. My first 10/10. Fucking awesome.

cant tell if sarcasm or not

overall good ep, lots of potential for the second half to save the mixxed first half, shu was pretty badass when he took down that guy with the gun like no sweat, looking forword to seeing the badass shu shown in the op


I was actually unsure as well.

Confucius said:
Hold on, NO ONE FOUND THE BODIES?? A complete copy of LoGH yet again. Friend dies, something happens and now becomes "king"


Though it most likely did get the idea from somewhere else, it doesn't necessarily mean it was taken from LotGH. No matter, trying to reason with fanboys is like talking to a brick wall.

My actually thoughts on this episode, is that it was alright. The only reason I was expecting something was because I wasn't sure if Karhu was serious or not.

*Shu randomly pulling Void*

Goodness.

Jan 28, 2012 8:54 PM

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Is it just me or did Daryl not fire when he saw Tsugumi?
Jan 28, 2012 9:08 PM

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KyashiDesu said:
Is it just me or did Daryl not fire when he saw Tsugumi?


Actually I saw that too. It looks like Daryl didn't fire because of his feelings for Tsugumi.
Jan 28, 2012 9:41 PM

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Shit show going for every piece of shit low blow in order to catalyze sympathy, stop it with the pointless borderline sexual assault in every other episode.

Super convenient voids don't help either. That chick's void makes clones, that's fine, it suits her, she's lonely, so the clones is essentially a manifestation of how she copes with them. Shu pulling out a random void to fend against a gun is bullshit.
Jan 28, 2012 9:52 PM

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-Obey said:
MorningGlory said:
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having inori as favourite character = stupid?

oh lord....

Don't worry, it's the equivalent of having Angel Beats! on your favorites. He's just butthurt.

If I didn't make sense, since apparently liking Inori=Stupid,
Angel Beats!=Stupid. I can at least laugh at her sometimes.



Oh hell no it's not.Why are you even comparing a character to a popular series?

Angel Beats was enjoyable but disappointing. In other words it showed good signs for over half of the series but give us the finger in the end. Inori showed up something good in the 1st episode, but never made anything to improve it... or actually characterize it.She is just a dull heroine doll.
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Jan 29, 2012 2:05 AM
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False. This has to be silliest thing I've ever read. You're projecting; stop watching bad shows.


A BIG TROLL. Bad show? Why are you even here btw? Proves you to be a BIG TROLL.
I'm a hater of every Protagonist in the anime I watch.
Oh God why are they so lame?

Tl;dr I just want to be the main character.
Cause I am perfect. ◕ ‿‿ ◕

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Jan 29, 2012 2:20 AM

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-Obey said:
DJIzzyIzzyHitler said:
kahru said:
Woah, masterpiece. My first 10/10. Fucking awesome.

cant tell if sarcasm or not

overall good ep, lots of potential for the second half to save the mixxed first half, shu was pretty badass when he took down that guy with the gun like no sweat, looking forword to seeing the badass shu shown in the op


I was actually unsure as well.
I'm not retarded fucktard, therefore sarcasm.
I definitely have superpowers. I can feel it in my balls.
Jan 29, 2012 4:52 AM

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Good episode...Shu finally :)
And Daryl and Tsugumi I ship them now!!!!

P.S.:Wth inori did to those students???that was weird...
Jan 29, 2012 8:27 AM

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Shu better this half lol and inori killing those students lol
Jan 29, 2012 8:41 AM

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Whoa....never noticed that this show attracts a lot of trolls...

Anyway. Shu was pretty awesome with his plan and 'speech' and everything and I'm glad he finally did take lead (even though it was forced) but I sense some bad drama coming up if he really goes with that heirarchy thing.

Well....I guess it depends on the specifics of the hierarchy.....but by "worth" is rather vauge....perhaps by category....
Shu! I hope you realize that! D=

Aside: I have to agree that bit where he pulled that shuriken-like thing out of that dude to knock the gun away was like "whoa....random luck...."

Also....with the hierarchy thing...does that mean he's gotta extract and check to see what everyone's void will be now? o___O Awkward....
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Jan 29, 2012 9:21 AM

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i liked this ep this series is starting to get better imo, i was wondering when tsugumi would get episode, and i finally see her void which suits her lonely self, and finally shu is becoming more of a leader, i was expecting him to become the leader of funeral parlor but he is also becoming the leader of the school and yahiro is telling him to become a king and rule over the students and use their voids, even ranked them on how powerful their voids are, i caught a glimpse of that in the first op lol but didn't think it had any relevance to the story, shu is now wearing his guilty crown also what is up with inori her void was over the limit meaning that she would be at the top of the list as her void is the stongest but i dont really understand how her void is a huge blade. the thing that made me laugh was when she beat the crap out of the guys who trying to check her back/rape her i mean i totally thought shu was gonna save her and then i remembered that she could take down a armed soldier twice her size without any problems and she was so casual after doing so aswell, i wonder if she killed them lol
Jan 29, 2012 9:22 AM

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Only one question:
WHY IS EVERYBODY IN THIS FUCKING SHOW A RETARDED IDIOT?!

Seriously, VOID SOCIAL DARWINISM?!
This plot has more holes than the whole cheese in Switzerland and Austria combined. Shu's moms till working for the GHQ despite the things that happened during the past episodes?

And the most important question. Why are there still people that think this show is good or even great? They're probably the same people who would support such a void social darwinism or the Nazis back in the 1930s. This just so fucking ridiculous, people who take this seriously should check their brains.
NidhoeggrJan 29, 2012 9:41 AM
Steel Ball Run anime when?
Jan 29, 2012 9:53 AM

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Nidhoeggr said:
Only one question:
WHY IS EVERYBODY IN THIS FUCKING SHOW A RETARDED IDIOT?!

Seriously, VOID SOCIAL DARWINISM?!
This plot has more holes than the whole cheese in Switzerland and Austria combined. Shu's moms till working for the GHQ despite the things that happened during the past episodes?

And the most important question. Why are there still people that think this show is good or even great? They're probably the same people who would support such a void social darwinism or the Nazis back in the 1930s. This just so fucking ridiculous, people who take this seriously should check their brains.


Don't be so pessimistic. The show just got a lot better, so rejoice. "Void Social Darwinism" is to rank people acoording to their strength. It's only natural, since in War time we can't call the combat ability of a cripple and a trained combatant on equal levels. It's hierarchy, not Nazism or BS.

Void is basically a new frontier of weapons, like when Airplane was introduced, except you cannot improve the Void you have, so having one of that is only natural. Especially in wartime, you wouldn't want to have a guy with half useless void next to you do you? Especially if you are the "'king"

So yeah, show is getting better than the first half at least. Also the plotholes exist because they messed up the director lineups... At least what i think, the Head directors is not excising his powers enough, the series should be consistent at least
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Jan 29, 2012 9:54 AM

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Nidhoeggr said:
Only one question:
WHY IS EVERYBODY IN THIS FUCKING SHOW A RETARDED IDIOT?!

Seriously, VOID SOCIAL DARWINISM?!
This plot has more holes than the whole cheese in Switzerland and Austria combined. Shu's moms till working for the GHQ despite the things that happened during the past episodes?

And the most important question. Why are there still people that think this show is good or even great? They're probably the same people who would support such a void social darwinism or the Nazis back in the 1930s. This just so fucking ridiculous, people who take this seriously should check their brains.


In the words of a man greater than myself:

"It's okay to not like things~ It's okay but don't be a dick about it~~"
Jan 29, 2012 9:56 AM

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Ikano said:
Whoa....never noticed that this show attracts a lot of trolls..


Have you been living under a rock or something> because this show attracts the largest number of trolls I have seen in SEASONS
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Jan 29, 2012 9:57 AM

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Bah this is still nothing. Umineko was way worse but at least that show deserved every single flame
Jan 29, 2012 10:05 AM

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GodlyKyon said:

Don't be so pessimistic. The show just got a lot better, so rejoice. "Void Social Darwinism" is to rank people acoording to their strength. It's only natural, since in War time we can't call the combat ability of a cripple and a trained combatant on equal levels. It's hierarchy, not Nazism or BS.


Look at the past episodes, if you think this won't turn into social darwinism you are deluding yourself. This is the show, where the main female lead is a ress-up doll that changes personality every 5 fucking seconds to appeal to underage kids.

GodlyKyon said:

So yeah, show is getting better than the first half at least. Also the plotholes exist because they messed up the director lineups... At least what i think, the Head directors is not excising his powers enough, the series should be consistent at least


The only thing that is better is that Shu is a bit more manlier now.

Darklight0303 said:


In the words of a man greater than myself:

"It's okay to not like things~ It's okay but don't be a dick about it~~"


I'm not dicking around: I try to somehow formulate my criticism without completely engaging a Berserk modus operandi.


GodlyKyon said:
Ikano said:
Whoa....never noticed that this show attracts a lot of trolls..


Have you been living under a rock or something> because this show attracts the largest number of trolls I have seen in SEASONS


Darklight0303 said:
Bah this is still nothing. Umineko was way worse but at least that show deserved every single flame


You act like this series doesn't deserve the flame it gets.
Steel Ball Run anime when?
Jan 29, 2012 10:15 AM

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Nidhoeggr said:

I'm not dicking around: I try to somehow formulate my criticism without completely engaging a Berserk modus operandi.



But when you type in caps and insult people who actually like the show, you do act like a dick. That quote doesn't say anything about dicking around. It says about being a dick to others which you sir, most certainly are.

Nidhoeggr said:
You act like this series doesn't deserve the flame it gets.


Because in my humble opinion it does not. Plotholes in this episode? Where? The scanner? It dropped during last episode when the humvee crashed. A little too convenient and given the mysterious support those thugs had it's undoubtedly a setup.

Tsugumi's void? Well it would be an asspull. IF THE VOID HAD NOT BEEN REVEALED WAY BEFORE THINGS WENT TO HELL. Order and flow cancel the ass pull status.

Now what else. Oh yes Shu and his void gimmick. Didn't he mention it last episode that his power changed after the big fight? I'm pretty sure he did. So honestly sticking to the old rules is pointless when he himself said the ability changed.

OMG Shu threw a boomerang at the guy's gun? Uh no. Shu threw a portion of a void. It didn't form into anything it was simply semicomplete and his control on Voids is clearly quite high to enable him to pull off such a feat.

Go on shoot down everything while screaming "PLOTHOLE"
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Jan 29, 2012 10:36 AM

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-Obey said:
MorningGlory said:
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having inori as favourite character = stupid?

oh lord....
Don't worry, it's the equivalent of having Angel Beats! on your favorites. He's just butthurt.

If I didn't make sense, since apparently liking Inori=Stupid,
Angel Beats!=Stupid. I can at least laugh at her sometimes.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

I literally fell out of my chair laughing. Were you able to type that with a straight face? Do you even know what butthurt means? No? 'Kay.

You see, your theory would work, except that you're wrong. In case you haven't noticed, the Inori thread has proven that no one can come up with a logical defense for Inori, because actual reasons to like her don't exist. Anything you try to say is just wrong. Ergo, you end up just looking retarded for saying you like her, or for favoriting her, and the people who actually have the capacity for intelligent thought laugh at you.
Jan 29, 2012 10:42 AM

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Darklight0303 said:
Nidhoeggr said:

I'm not dicking around: I try to somehow formulate my criticism without completely engaging a Berserk modus operandi.



But when you type in caps and insult people who actually like the show, you do act like a dick. That quote doesn't say anything about dicking around. It says about being a dick to others which you sir, most certainly are.

Nidhoeggr said:
You act like this series doesn't deserve the flame it gets.


Because in my humble opinion it does not. Plotholes in this episode? Where? The scanner? It dropped during last episode when the humvee crashed. A little too convenient and given the mysterious support those thugs had it's undoubtedly a setup.

Tsugumi's void? Well it would be an asspull. IF THE VOID HAD NOT BEEN REVEALED WAY BEFORE THINGS WENT TO HELL. Order and flow cancel the ass pull status.

Now what else. Oh yes Shu and his void gimmick. Didn't he mention it last episode that his power changed after the big fight? I'm pretty sure he did. So honestly sticking to the old rules is pointless when he himself said the ability changed.

OMG Shu threw a boomerang at the guy's gun? Uh no. Shu threw a portion of a void. It didn't form into anything it was simply semicomplete and his control on Voids is clearly quite high to enable him to pull off such a feat.

Go on shoot down everything while screaming "PLOTHOLE"


Thank god, finally someone who sees the show for what it is, and not for the stupid-high expectations people put for it.

It was extremely overhyped, but it's not horrible at all. They did overlook small things, but that's just that, small things. With the change of direction, I feel like this is going to become a lot better than even this episode.

The main problem I see is the expectations people got before watching it - as well as the trolls coming to shoot those expectations down as soon as they heard about them.

The show is currently at a solid 8.5 for me, but I was hoping it would be a 9 - 9.5, but it still has 8 episodes left to change that.

DraconisMarch said:
-Obey said:
MorningGlory said:
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having inori as favourite character = stupid?

oh lord....
Don't worry, it's the equivalent of having Angel Beats! on your favorites. He's just butthurt.

If I didn't make sense, since apparently liking Inori=Stupid,
Angel Beats!=Stupid. I can at least laugh at her sometimes.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

I literally fell out of my chair laughing. Were you able to type that with a straight face? Do you even know what butthurt means? No? 'Kay.

You see, your theory would work, except that you're wrong. In case you haven't noticed, the Inori thread has proven that no one can come up with a logical defense for Inori, because actual reasons to like her don't exist. Anything you try to say is just wrong. Ergo, you end up just looking retarded for saying you like her, or for favoriting her, and the people who actually have the capacity for intelligent thought laugh at you.


While it may not be logical to others, I f like Inori because of the mysteriousness surrounding her. Her actions, what she knows and doesn't know about the world. It gives her a dark innocence.
BRSxIgnitionJan 29, 2012 10:46 AM
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Darklight0303 said:
Nidhoeggr said:

I'm not dicking around: I try to somehow formulate my criticism without completely engaging a Berserk modus operandi.
But when you type in caps and insult people who actually like the show, you do act like a dick. That quote doesn't say anything about dicking around. It says about being a dick to others which you sir, most certainly are.
Uh... you obviously have NO concept about what actually being a dick is.

Darklight0303]
Nidhoeggr said:
You act like this series doesn't deserve the flame it gets.
Because in my humble opinion it does not. Plotholes in this episode? Where? The scanner? It dropped during last episode when the humvee crashed. A little too convenient and given the mysterious support those thugs had it's undoubtedly a setup.

Tsugumi's void? Well it would be an asspull. IF THE VOID HAD NOT BEEN REVEALED WAY BEFORE THINGS WENT TO HELL. Order and flow cancel the ass pull status.

Now what else. Oh yes Shu and his void gimmick. Didn't he mention it last episode that his power changed after the big fight? I'm pretty sure he did. So honestly sticking to the old rules is pointless when he himself said the ability changed.

OMG Shu threw a boomerang at the guy's gun? Uh no. Shu threw a portion of a void. It didn't form into anything it was simply semicomplete and his control on Voids is clearly quite high to enable him to pull off such a feat.

Go on shoot down everything while screaming "PLOTHOLE"
DraconisMarch said:
A vote of no-confidence for a fucking school president? What the fuck is that??

The internet's back locally but you're cut off from the outside? LOL.

Convenient "genomic resonance gauge" found near the random humvee? LOL. IT'S OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!

Haruka's back on the job after betraying the government. Makes sense.

Oh dear. Inori made a mess. Probably with her magical hax0rz that still haven't been explained.

One second, Shu's a depressed, no-confidence pussy. The next, he's saying shit like "Don't make me angry." LOL.

Continuing to prove that a void magically appears to fulfill any job required by the situation. DEUS EX MACHINA TO THE RESCUE!!!!~~~~

Wait. He didn't make eye contact. And knew what it was before he pulled it out. And he magically knew how to use it.

Void rank = worth of the person? What are you, Hitler?
Pay attention to what's happening. If you can't do that, read the thread so people can tell you.

Also, what the hell are you talking about? "He threw a portion of a void so he has high control of voids"? WHAT?? Stop making shit up and using it as though it were fact.

This show is an enormous buttmess of inconsistency, plotholes, and asspulls. Saying otherwise is to advertise ignorance.

EDIT: Just found this. No other words need be spoken.

http://oko.im/mal/Darklight0303
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DraconisMarch said:

This show is an enormous buttmess of inconsistency, plotholes, and asspulls. Saying otherwise is to advertise ignorance.


Sorry, but the void was not complete, if you pause, you can plainly see it was still forming while in the air after the toss. This can be packed up because not all voids come out fully formed, the only one that I've seen do that has been Inori's Void, all of the others form in his hand after being pulled out.

Do you need everything subbed and spelt out for you for it to be "okay"? I'm sorry, this is an Anime. Not a f*cking book. Not everything is explained to your face every-time it shows up. You must be quite retarded if you expect them to stop every-time something changes slightly to show you what you're missing.

Imagine:
Shu:!! *Reaches back and grabs void*
Narrator: "What shu is doing here, is quickly glancing back to initiate eye contact, then pulling out and tossing the void before it forms completely.. Let's see that in frame by frame..."
Me: .... The F*ck?


Perfect.
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DraconisMarch said:
Snipped up so the mods don't get upset


I'll only bother with the points raised beside what I already put up except the void fragment thing.

Have you seen ANY void throught the series to form that quickly. Also go ahead and freeze the video at any time then post a screenshot here showing a definite shape for whatever Shu threw. Please if you can provide that then I will admit I was wrong right here.


Vote of no confidence. I agree that was forcing the note.

Haruka back on the job: If you look closely she doesn't quite look alright. That and the weird helmet. If that doctor dude didn't die then what's stoping him from taking control of his lovely ex. Pretty much nothing.

Uh magical haxorz? Inori was shown to be able to kill in cold blood quite easily throughout the show. It's only when Shu is around that she really has any second thoughts about shedding blood.

Well you know seeing your friends in danger can do that to a person. Especially a person who puts more value on his friends than himself.

The void rank was proposed by Yahiro. Not by Shu. He's most likely just as apalled by the whole setup as you are.

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DraconisMarch said:

This show is an enormous buttmess of inconsistency, plotholes, and asspulls. Saying otherwise is to advertise ignorance.


Sorry, but the void was not complete, if you pause, you can plainly see it was still forming while in the air after the toss. This can be packed up because not all voids come out fully formed, the only one that I've seen do that has been Inori's Void, all of the others form in his hand after being pulled out.

Do you need everything subbed and spelt out for you for it to be "okay"? I'm sorry, this is an Anime. Not a f*cking book. Not everything is explained to your face every-time it shows up. You must be quite retarded if you expect them to stop every-time something changes slightly to show you what you're missing.

Imagine:
Shu:!! *Reaches back and grabs void*
Narrator: "What shu is doing here, is quickly glancing back to initiate eye contact, then pulling out and tossing the void before it forms completely.. Let's see that in frame by frame..."
Me: .... The F*ck?


Perfect.


+Infinity.

Edit: Oh lol you found my rating stats. Wow that certainly invalidates everything I ever said. Best argument ever. Excuse me while I go laugh myself to death. Way to go choosing the easy way out of a potential debate you couldn't win.
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While it may not be logical to others, I f like Inori because of the mysteriousness surrounding her. Her actions, what she knows and doesn't know about the world. It gives her a dark innocence.

I totally understand that as that is part of the reason i like her too. And she's not totally void of feelings as just she don't understand what she's feeling. I wouldn't say she's my fav character in the show as Gai was actually that at the time. But its just hilarious watching folks put up unofficial rules on liking a character on a anime forum.lol. And attacking folks for liking a character, wtf is going on here?.lol.
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BRSxIgnition said:


While it may not be logical to others, I f like Inori because of the mysteriousness surrounding her. Her actions, what she knows and doesn't know about the world. It gives her a dark innocence.

I totally understand that as that is part of the reason i like her too. And she's not totally void of feelings as just she don't understand what she's feeling. I wouldn't say she's my fav character in the show as Gai was actually that at the time. But its just hilarious watching folks put up unofficial rules on liking a character on a anime forum.lol. And attacking folks for liking a character, wtf is going on here?.lol.


Welcome to MAL where people get on your case for the most retarded of reasons. Sad story really.
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Trolls or people with common sense? If you watch the show again from episode one, this show makes absolutely no sense at all.
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This show is an enormous buttmess of inconsistency, plotholes, and asspulls. Saying otherwise is to advertise ignorance.

EDIT: Just found this. No other words need be spoken.

http://oko.im/mal/Darklight0303


Ah Darconis, we might not agree on everything but I'll surely support your cause here.

Confucius said:
Trolls or people with common sense? If you watch the show again from episode one, this show makes absolutely no sense at all.


This. And not only that, it literally fills someone with rage who much they ignore certain points like the whole deal with Haruka for example.
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Confucius said:
Trolls or people with common sense? If you watch the show again from episode one, this show makes absolutely no sense at all.


Funny. I watched it from episode one on a whim and so far almost everything makes sense. I repeat Almost. Yes there are a few black spots I am curious about but nothing to automatically shelve the series into the trash section with all of the other Anime I've loathed.
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Confucius said:
Trolls or people with common sense? If you watch the show again from episode one, this show makes absolutely no sense at all.


And that's your opinion. Granted, there are a few legitimate plot-holes here and there, but not as many as people like you (with "common sense") are "pointing out".

It's because of these plot-holes and small inconsistencies that I am not rating this a 9 or 9.5 right now.
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Confucius said:
Trolls or people with common sense? If you watch the show again from episode one, this show makes absolutely no sense at all.


Funny. I watched it from episode one on a whim and so far almost everything makes sense. I repeat Almost. Yes there are a few black spots I am curious about but nothing to automatically shelve the series into the trash section with all of the other Anime I've loathed.


Are you sure it made sense? Or are were you just blinded by the animation, music, and the fanservice and your mind made up a "oh okay, I will use my imagination to create an explanation for what happened"
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Confucius said:
Darklight0303 said:
Confucius said:
Trolls or people with common sense? If you watch the show again from episode one, this show makes absolutely no sense at all.


Funny. I watched it from episode one on a whim and so far almost everything makes sense. I repeat Almost. Yes there are a few black spots I am curious about but nothing to automatically shelve the series into the trash section with all of the other Anime I've loathed.


Are you sure it made sense? Or are were you just blinded by the animation, music, and the fanservice and your mind made up a "oh okay, I will use my imagination to create an explanation for what happened"


LOL blinded by animation? Maybe in episode one I was a bit but after that I didn't see anything stellar.

The music is good you can't gripe on that so what's wrong with enjoying it?

Lol I stopped caring about fanservice ages ago.

I'm sorry that you are one of those people who need to have every step anatomically explained for you to enjoy a journey.
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i dont think inori is as bad as people are making her out to be, she isn't my favorite but i cant seem to hate her and i sorta like her, i think she is alot like shu in many ways as she is unable to express her feelings properly and show much emotion and she can only express them with her singing and her songs

she is somewhat mysterious as not much is known about her past all i know is that she is a clone or vessel created specifically to host mana and had no other purpose until gai gave her a name and a purpose, i think that is why she is the way she is, also im a bit curious as to why her void is so strong and why its a huge blade
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i dont think inori is as bad as people are making her out to be, she isn't my favorite but i cant seem to hate her and i sorta like her, i think she is alot like shu in many ways as she is unable to express her feelings properly and show much emotion and she can only express them with her singing and her songs

she is somewhat mysterious as not much is known about her past all i know is that she is a clone or vessel created specifically to host mana and had no other purpose until gai gave her a name and a purpose, i think that is why she is the way she is, also im a bit curious as to why her void is so strong and why its a huge blade


Exactly. There is still much we don't know so to pass judgment so soon is simply biased and retarded. I don't hate her, I like her a bit cause she interests me like the cat in the box. An interest to see what truth she has lingering underneath. There is clearly more or else the show would have ended on episode 12.
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Ok so the pussy, Shu, is now the class pres.
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@Darklight0303

No-one cares a shit if you enjoy it or not. Guilty Crown is objectively horrible, and some people actually care about the quality. Only uneducated plebians rate this highly.
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No-one cares a shit if you enjoy it or not. Guilty Crown is objectively horrible, and some people actually care about the quality. Only uneducated plebians rate this highly.


Well then it's a good thing I haven't rated it yet isn't it? ^_^ See I only rate at the end of a show or only if it is really really bad.

Also here's some food for thought. If even the slightest imperfection makes a work unqualified as a masterpiece, why is The Venus de Milo still considered such a valuable masterpiece hmm? I mean it has no arms. By your logic it is now a piece of trash.

A masterpiece =/= Flawless. I admit the shows I have watched have flaws. But not enough to make me feel any less about them. The rating system is meant to be used to reflect YOUR personal opinion. If you wanted it to reflect the oh so high standards, then it should not have been made available to all.
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Not going to quote everything I'm responding to because it'd take 8 years.

Inori has had some sort of superpower deal going on since episode 4, where she fuckin' FLEW LIKE SUPERMAN. Explain.

They pan to Haruka when they're discussing who exactly is piloting the mecha. If they weren't implying she was partly responsible for that, then it's just another point against them for terrible story telling.

We know Shoe cares about his friends, but that's not going to all of a sudden make you talk like you're the biggest BAMF to ever live.

I never said anything about Shoe being the one who proposed the Void ranking system, now, did I?

"A FEW legitimate plotholes"? What show are you watching?

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Exactly. There is still much we don't know so to pass judgment so soon is simply biased and retarded. I don't hate her, I like her a bit cause she interests me like the cat in the box. An interest to see what truth she has lingering underneath. There is clearly more or else the show would have ended on episode 12.
14 episodes--over half way through--is PLENTY of a foundation for judgment.

Mentioning episode 12 reminded me of that catastrophe, where they pulled another dozen cliches out of their ass and tried to explain/reveal EVERYTHING in 3 minutes, and shove metric tons worth of plot-critical information into your face in no time. Good story telling would forshadow things gradually beforehand, and reveal plot-critical points over time--rather than stuffing EVERYTHING into a 21-minute span.

Now, if they had actually spread all of that over episodes 3-11 and stayed consistent and cut the asspulls (Deus Ex Machina), they might had something good. But they failed.

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Also here's some food for thought. If even the slightest imperfection makes a work unqualified as a masterpiece, why is The Venus de Milo still considered such a valuable masterpiece hmm? I mean it has no arms. By your logic it is now a piece of trash.
You fail Logic 101 forever.
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Also here's some food for thought. If even the slightest imperfection makes a work unqualified as a masterpiece, why is The Venus de Milo still considered such a valuable masterpiece hmm? I mean it has no arms. By your logic it is now a piece of trash.

A masterpiece =/= Flawless. I admit the shows I have watched have flaws. But not enough to make me feel any less about them. The rating system is meant to be used to reflect YOUR personal opinion. If you wanted it to reflect the oh so high standards, then it should not have been made available to all.


Because the Venus isn't a shitty clayman a kindergarden kid made in 5 minutes.
Monster could be compared to the Venus, Guilty Crown is just really bad.

And that just now made you sounds very pretentious. You have D.GrayMan in your favourites ffs and dare to try to about arts? Don't make me laugh, you illiterate prick.
Read some good books about dystopian societies like Brave New World before you try to argue for this piece of shit anime.
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I like most of all this ep but at the end I find rank person by void point was really ridiculous casue every void have diffent effect it can be use in diffent situation how can he made rank like that...
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I like most of all this ep but at the end I find rank person by void point was really ridiculous casue every void have diffent effect it can be use in diffent situation how can he made rank like that...

*nod* It's very situational.

Water would be the best thing in the world for someone dying of thirst in the desert, but to someone drowning it would be worthless.

It's hard to rank voids for the same reason, each of them are so unique and specialized it's hard to compare them side by side and judge which are better.
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Your comments on this show make me want to pick it up again and feel that agonizing pain of watching GC.
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