The Golden Age of Anime Discussion

AzureDaora said:

You're using so much buzzwords I'm literally laughing in here. pls

Oh wow, you look at things in an analytical mindset. How special. However, your analytical viewpoints are clearly lacking in a lot of ways.
Let's see here,
1. The number of anime being released each year is irrelevant in correlation to quality.
2. Concept or premise does not matter much, especially in anime where you have so much odd concepts that somehow work. Execution is more important than the premise, and execution is seen through a mostly subjective viewpoint.
3. Not every story character-driven. An anime can succeed without fully fleshed characters, as a story can focus on world building and plot.
4. I have no idea what "by sheer anime" means.
5. Everything you've said contains no no proof as to why everything in this age is better than another certain age.
6. We're not talking about specific anime; we're talking about entire decades. Which you've clearly watched everything on a certain decade. Rite? lel
7. Oh wow, Non-sequitur logical fallacy. "Sheer anime" and "sheer numbers" have little to do with what would be the golden age of anime is. The argument is either "in sales" or "in quality". The former being the recent years and the latter having an unobtainable answer due to the viewpoint of quality being mostly subjective in nature.
8. Plot holes and "nonsensical explanations" are not valid criticisms for every anime. Nonsensical anime like Nichijou or Ninja Slayer are clearly not viewed in order for the story. Something like Mawaru Penguindrum is so vague and symbolic in nature that one could argue that there are "nonsensical explanations", except that the execution of Penguindrum is mostly about symbolism and is thus relative as to how the certain viewer sees the show, as interpretations about symbolism is loose and is not hardened by the word-of-god.
9. "What the characters did in the anime" can be subjective. Some may look at a certain action as stupid while some might see at as a sane action. It all depends on how the viewer sees the anime as and how he relates to the characters based on his own experiences, depending on what kind of anime it is.

Don't try and act like a pseudo-intellectual; there are a lot of people who will punish you for that. Contrary to popular belief, there are a lot of smart people in MAL that can easily refute (maybe) everything I just said and make me look like a puny cat in comparison.

AzureDaora said:

You're using so much buzzwords I'm literally laughing in here. pls

Oh wow, you look at things in an analytical mindset. How special. However, your analytical viewpoints are clearly lacking in a lot of ways.
Let's see here,
1. The number of anime being released each year is irrelevant in correlation to quality.
2. Concept or premise does not matter much, especially in anime where you have so much odd concepts that somehow work. Execution is more important than the premise, and execution is seen through a mostly subjective viewpoint.
3. Not every story is character-driven. An anime can succeed without fully fleshed characters, as a story can focus on world building and plot.
4. I have no idea what "by sheer anime" means.
5. Everything you've said contains no proof as to why everything in this age is better than another certain age.
6. We're not talking about specific anime; we're talking about entire decades. Which you've clearly watched everything on a certain decade. Rite? lel
7. Oh wow, Non-sequitur logical fallacy. "Sheer anime" and "sheer numbers" have little to do with what would be the golden age of anime is. The argument is either "in sales" or "in quality". The former being the recent years and the latter having an unobtainable answer due to the viewpoint of quality being mostly subjective in nature.
8. Plot holes and "nonsensical explanations" are not valid criticisms for every anime. Nonsensical anime like Nichijou or Ninja Slayer are clearly not viewed for the story. Something like Mawaru Penguindrum is so vague and symbolic in nature that one could argue that there are "nonsensical explanations", except that the execution of Penguindrum is mostly about symbolism and is thus relative as to how the certain viewer sees the show, as interpretations about symbolism is loose and is not hardened by the word-of-god.
9. "What the characters did in the anime" can be subjective. Some may look at a certain action as stupid while some might see at as a sane action. It all depends on how the viewer sees the anime as and how he relates to the characters based on his own experiences, depending on what kind of anime it is.

Don't try and act like a pseudo-intellectual; there are a lot of people who will punish you for that. Contrary to popular belief, there are a lot of smart people in MAL that can easily refute (maybe) everything I just said and make me look like a puny cat in comparison.

Poltergeist18 said:
^Damn son, keep countering everything and soon you'll be self-contradicting.

Rebyuuu said:

I can't let dogs walk wherever they please now can I :^)?

Remv_quevav said:
I agree with AzureDaora, Golden Age in terms of quality is a myth. A golden age in terms of production is more believable

Rebyuuu said:


more believable depending your tastes, some people like character/story > art/sound, and vise versa, I'm not hating I just wish people would explain why instead of labeling something > over something else.

Remv_quevav said:
maaaaaaaaaaaannn
I was saying production
PRODUCTION
how could that be depending on individuals taste???????

Remv_quevav said:
maaaaaaaaaaaannn
I was saying production
PRODUCTION
how could that be depending on individuals taste???????

Poltergeist18 said:

If it's the music, that is subjective. If it's the art, that also depends on the watcher. But if it's the animation...

Hulohot said:
For a moment i thought we were talking about the Golden Age Arc of Berserk, im disappointed now.

Poltergeist18 said:

If it's the music, that is subjective. If it's the art, that also depends on the watcher. But if it's the animation...

Rebyuuu said:


more believable depending your tastes, some people like character/story > art/sound, and vise versa, I'm not hating I just wish people would explain why instead of labeling something > over something else.

Hulohot said:
For a moment i thought we were talking about the Golden Age Arc of Berserk, im disappointed now.

Rebyuuu said:


because some people like things to be made a certain way, unless you're talking about studio production lmao, everything in this world depends on individual taste, you're saying production value > than quality, okay then.

sedmelluq said:

That was not his point. There are a lot more authors than there are studios. While studios due to being one single entity might have art quality issues due to various reasons, almost every story comes from a different author. A studio doing things wrong will affect the art of many series, possibly over a long amount of time. A single author writing crappy stuff will only affect that story, therefore it's not related to when it was conceived.

AzureDaora said:

and thus you've completely destroyed your entire argument.
Really.

If you agree that everything is seen through individual taste, then your arguments fall completely since you believe that "x decade is better than y decade because ""insert reasons here""" while you agree that everyone has their own opinion, and thus your arguments become paradoxical.

pls

Hulohot said:
For a moment i thought we were talking about the Golden Age Arc of Berserk, im disappointed now.

AzureDaora said:
If only I didn't have uni tomorrow I could extend this fun
*sigh*

Kokko said:

Not talking to you, sonny. Shoo.

Kokko said:
I'm going to play devil's advocate here and say that your arguments contain the argumentum ad logicam.

Rebyuuu said:

Lastly all I have to say about you is, you have no deep though when you do your ratings, you just go off the a.d.d factor, what is the a.d.d factor, well it can be a variety of things but I believe your list sums it up perfectly
Ratings:
(12) Puella Magi Madoka Magica. Just waw. WAW.
(10): Fukkin Amazing. This anime is not perfect, yet it is almost one. If it is a 10, it is one of my favorites.
(9): Really Great. This anime was very enjoyable or captivating, Anime with this score are not to be missed.
(8): Great, very enjoyable. This was a great anime with potential to be even greater, but nonethless still great.
(7): Good. Enjoyable and good enough. I like it and has a positive opinion about it, but I may have disliked some parts of it.
(6): Above Average. Pretty enjoyable. I still like it, and still has a positive feeling about it. It could have been done better, but still good.
(5): Mediocre. Can be enjoyable, if its your type of thing. I feel indifferent to it and don't really dislike it or like it, but if I give a 5 I'm probably leaning more on the dislike.
(4): Below Average. Can still be enjoyable, but I overall disliked it. I didn't enjoy it for some reason.
(3): Bad. Probably won't be enjoyable, but who knows. Has a lot of stuff that is cringy and bad.
(2): Really Bad. Closest to being shit, they should be avoided.
(1): Utter Shit. They are either so shit that I cringe so much, or so shit that I laugh all the way through.
(-10) Abunai Sisters. No, just no. Why. WHY.

Such complex intellect senpai.
i guess that's all you were screaming like a wild monkey when you say madoka, WAW WAW, lol you probably go to community college.

Rebyuuu said:

Lastly all I have to say about you is, you have no deep though when you do your ratings, you just go off the a.d.d factor, what is the a.d.d factor, well it can be a variety of things but I believe your list sums it up perfectly
Ratings:
(12) Puella Magi Madoka Magica. Just waw. WAW.
(10): Fukkin Amazing. This anime is not perfect, yet it is almost one. If it is a 10, it is one of my favorites.
(9): Really Great. This anime was very enjoyable or captivating, Anime with this score are not to be missed.
(8): Great, very enjoyable. This was a great anime with potential to be even greater, but nonethless still great.
(7): Good. Enjoyable and good enough. I like it and has a positive opinion about it, but I may have disliked some parts of it.
(6): Above Average. Pretty enjoyable. I still like it, and still has a positive feeling about it. It could have been done better, but still good.
(5): Mediocre. Can be enjoyable, if its your type of thing. I feel indifferent to it and don't really dislike it or like it, but if I give a 5 I'm probably leaning more on the dislike.
(4): Below Average. Can still be enjoyable, but I overall disliked it. I didn't enjoy it for some reason.
(3): Bad. Probably won't be enjoyable, but who knows. Has a lot of stuff that is cringy and bad.
(2): Really Bad. Closest to being shit, they should be avoided.
(1): Utter Shit. They are either so shit that I cringe so much, or so shit that I laugh all the way through.
(-10) Abunai Sisters. No, just no. Why. WHY.

Such complex intellect senpai.

AzureDaora said:
silence kokko
Don't give him any ideas that I'm doing the fallacy fallacy at some parts

I'm having fun here

Zergneedsfood said:
what a cancerous video

Hoppy said:
The golden age of anime was from 1979-2000, the moe age was from 2001-present (a good run overall), however we are soon approaching the dark age of anime which can be stopped if bad LN adaptations cease and more distribution methods are embraced in Japan and abroad.

Zergneedsfood said:
There's a "Golden Time" though.

Dark_Chaos said:


Yeah, I stopped taking you seriously round about here. Sorry lad XD

Gigguk's pretty much on the money at the end of the day, though Digibro adds onto that with a general consensus, though even then it's the word of the masses and not of each individual.

hybreezy said:
The only two Ages in Anime are Pre Eva and Post Eva

pleeeeeeeeeebs

HybridLR said:


If you look at the definition of Golden Age it really isn't subjective. The metaphor depicts the highest peak of over all influence and prosperity...not your favorite timeline.

So if you can't take that seriously, than I guess you have issues reading and comprehending actual definitions.

Dark_Chaos said:

Oh dear, you don't understand do you? -.- It is subjective. I'd rather not repeat myself (plus Gigguk and Digibro explained it so much better than I did), so go back and read my post again. Make sure to read it properly this time. Once your done with that, go back and watch Gigguk's video, the one you was actually replying to, because you obviously weren't paying attention. Then, go and watch Digibro's video. If you've done all that and have the intellect to comprehend it all, you should understand. (God knows what I'm going to do if you still don't understand after all that. -.-)

MrMik1995 said:


Oh no even tho i'm new to MAL,i have been on YouTube for like 6 years so i know DouchebagChocolat,Gigguk,Glass Reflection,Nyanners and then the reviewing circle(ForneverWorld,Chibi Reviews,Sawyer7Mage etc).I just heard that MAL users generally hate YouTube anime personalities,that's why i asked.