| I wouldn't buy the DVDs unless they are the original Japanese versions. If you're talking about quality of the video then it should be similiar to the ones you get off fansubbers. |
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GreyWinged said: DoubleDango said: I wouldn't buy the DVDs unless they are the original Japanese versions. Turn off the subtitles and there you go. Original version ahoy. Also assuming that OP is from North America, region 1 releases are going to cost much, much less. Seventy bucks a piece for three episodes on region 2 DVD is just flat-out ridiculous. The only reason I buy the DVDs is to be able to have the genuine Japanese packaging. |
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| I wouldnt mind buying blue-ray versions of a Miyasaki movies. |
| Its not necessary to buy DVDs to support GreyWinged said: On my side of the fence the answer is always YES. Support the industry as often as possible. As far as the quality goes, industry subtitles aren't always pretty to look at but you can at least count on quality (if a bit localized) translations. Dubs are embellished at times but that has a lot to due with the difference in language and pacing in the dialogue. I'd say go for it. I've been collecting anime off and on since 1996 and don't plan on stopping any time soon. Just don't let your habit get out of hand! :V Buying DVD is not the only means of supporting the industry. quality figmas and other merchandise is a great way to say "I <3 UUUUUUUUU", whilst not wasting money supporting abysmally fatassed companies like Funimation. Really, if you're buying any dvd, buy BLU-RAY! Recommendations? Buy Haruhi's Blu-ray box set, for less than 40,000yen... Description: The ultimate 8-discs Blu-ray box set with English subtitle of anime series "The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya" including all 28 episodes of the TV series rearranged in chronological order. Also includes two event footage of "The Extravaganza of Haruhi Suzumiya" and "The Symphony of Haruhi Suzumiya" and more bonus video footage. Special Features: bonus video Footage (tentative) Goes to show that we as consumers don'at have to take jack shit from funimation and the alike, as the japanese industry is already realizing the amount of foreign weeabooo fags that would buy their shit if it has english subs. |
| If you really like the anime and will re-watch it, then yeah. |
| Definitely, yes, buy the DVD. Better quality and straight from the distributor. Every anime fan should support the anime they watch and buy the DVDs. |
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| personaly i wouldnt buy anything which isnt atleast real 1080p or real damn good 720p quality with high bitrate..no upscales. |
Onibokusu said: xXshinzoXx said: Buying DVD is not the only means of supporting the industry. quality figmas and other merchandise is a great way to say "I <3 UUUUUUUUU", whilst not wasting money supporting abysmally fatassed companies like Funimation. Except for the fact that profits for merchandising is split up abysmally, unlike DVD and Blu-Ray releases. Recommendations? Buy Haruhi's Blu-ray box set, for less than 40,000yen... I know, and JYN$40,000 is only USD$460 at the current rate of exchange. Yeah, what a deal. That's totally not a rip off in any way, shape or form. LOL! None of the money from US DVD/Blu-Ray releases are NOT going back to japan. Thats why it's in the price range of $20-30, whilst an average DVD in Japan would be 4500-5000yen (around 50 or more USD). US licensors license w/e anime they want to release in the US, and that is why prices of US dvds and blu-rays are so cheap, since they have no financial commitment to their japanese counterparts. So tell me, why the fuck would I want to support Funimation, who effortlessly aims to spew shit at the target audience, whilst I can support japanese manufactoring companies that continue to present otkaus and alike with new merchandise? And judging by your remark, saying 40,000 Yen is "totally not a rip off in any way, shape or form, probably means you have never been to Japan, or specifically Akiba/Otome Road, because really, EVERYTHING anime is expensive, because most of the target audience that anime aims towards is adults (hence the decrease in anime and increase in hentai), completely different to the American demographic that's mostly teenagers that have little to no money to spend on fancy figurines and DVD sets. Most box sets range from 45,000Yen to 60,000yen (or even more), so I really don't see why you're being all sarcastic over a record, dirt cheap box-set that has dvds going 50+USD a piece anyways on dvd @ japan for 460USD. |
| I think it's worth it if it's an anime I love and if the price is decent. I usually shop on Amazon and usually there are good discounts from used sellers who may sell the DVD new but lack some of the original packaging. But it would only be worth it if you want to save space on your comp or if you have scruples about being a free loader. |
| I'd like to point out that about 80% of these people don't even own any anime dvd's (leeches) and are just putting in their broke ass 2 cents. If you want to do it right, buy the anime/manga/merchandise. It doesn't matter if its 1% going back to the studio or 20%, the point is something is coming back to the creator and its studios. When enough people buy the crap (i.e. popular), there is a high chance of the studio making sequels and what not. Perfect examples are Gunslinger Girl and Black Lagoon OVA both are direct responses to increased popularity over the years and the reason why there was a 5-6 year gap in between. If you don't support your anime they go down the tubes, like Gonzo. It's also a good example why some of those anime that you absolutely hate (i.e. Queens Blade) get to have a sequel so soon and the ones that you love dont get sequels. @DoubleDango What do you mean japanese wrapping? The only difference is its in kanji instead of english. Everything else is exactly the same, with the exception of special editions and unique box sets. But the average price of Y6000 - Y9000 ($60-90USD) PER VOLUME should automatically turn you off with going the "japanese route" Its actually cheaper to buy DVDs and BRs in region 1 than it is in Region 2. Ironically, its cheaper to buy manga in japan (Y2-Y3) as opposed to the States ($7-12) It's also interesting to point out alot of "original DVDs" from japan are done only in 2.1 audio whereas the dub and whatnot is done in 5.1. Blu Rays are always quality ofc. |
RanivusJul 21, 2010 10:46 AM
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GreyWinged said: n01kaizerm said: GreyWinged said: As far as the quality goes, industry subtitles aren't always pretty to look at but you can at least count on quality (if a bit localized) translations. Dubs are embellished at times but that has a lot to due with the difference in language and pacing in the dialogue. Must've had better luck than me. These "professional subs" I've ever watched always had numerous English spelling errors. Sometimes I couldn't even figure out what the word was. You probably have bootlegs. I've never seen that kind of problem with legitimate R1 DVD releases. Hahah Hong Kong knockoffs :) I borrowed one from a friend. And i kept it for the uniqueness hongkong has with translating anime to english. |
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GreyWinged said: Secondly, if anybody is going to get my money it's going to be stateside companies who did the fucking work to get those subtitled DVDS in my hands. I'm not going to throw my cash at foreigners just so I can have extra street cred in the eyes of the "fandom". Fuck that. Suit yourself, whatever the fuck 'stateside' means, idk, nor do I get the "throw my cash at foreigners so I can have extra street cred in the eys of 'fandom'" part, but if people do it for anything, it's most probably for their own enjoyment, and not for "street cred" or "fandom". I have merely stated the fact that anime is a costly hobby, and the reasons not to support poor "professional subs" (more importantly dubs), because of their track record of bad quality. By the way, as phrasing it in your words, it's the fucking foreigners that did the fucking work to release anime, not funimation and friends. |
| I have a bunch of anime DVDs, I support that industry. It is worth it to have them and if you don't enjoy the english dub just watch them in Japanese. |
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| @shinzo ^typical leecher Fansubs will keep working if they get your money or not. Bitching about the quality of what is essentially free and stolen work is the epitome of why fansub fans are so stupid. You would rather pay some 2bit criminal than support the creator and the poor animators that slave 18 hours a day to make you that cartoon you absolutely love. Its a hobby, a form of entertainment. Legit entertainment costs money. Ergo, hobbies are supposed to cost money. And really, its not that expensive to support. One manga is equivalent to one drink at a popular dance club. And paying $60 for 24 episodes is like paying $8.96 for a movie a dozen times. And yes, pirated dvd's are alot more prvailent over seas (europe, africa, austrailia, russia, mideast, etc) So yes, buying the crap quality pirate dvd's are your only way to get it in proper accurate dvd form. But still if you think this hobby is expensive you either have no job/live off of someone or you're way too young to understand. Or you could be the latter, the guy that bitches about anything and everything because they can. |
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| DVD has great quality so naturally it's worth to buy it. I never bought anime DVD before because, first of all, there are very few anime that I feel like rewatching to the point of owning it on DVD. Second, the anime I'd like to own on DVD are almost impossible to find. I rarely buy manga for the same motifs. |
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| I like how this thread, like any other asking about this sort of question, turns to a discussion about supporting the industry. |
GreyWinged said: xXshinzoXx said: Onibokusu said: xXshinzoXx said: Buying DVD is not the only means of supporting the industry. quality figmas and other merchandise is a great way to say "I <3 UUUUUUUUU", whilst not wasting money supporting abysmally fatassed companies like Funimation. Except for the fact that profits for merchandising is split up abysmally, unlike DVD and Blu-Ray releases. Recommendations? Buy Haruhi's Blu-ray box set, for less than 40,000yen... I know, and JYN$40,000 is only USD$460 at the current rate of exchange. Yeah, what a deal. That's totally not a rip off in any way, shape or form. LOL! None of the money from US DVD/Blu-Ray releases are NOT going back to japan. Thats why it's in the price range of $20-30, whilst an average DVD in Japan would be 4500-5000yen (around 50 or more USD). US licensors license w/e anime they want to release in the US, and that is why prices of US dvds and blu-rays are so cheap, since they have no financial commitment to their japanese counterparts. So tell me, why the fuck would I want to support Funimation, who effortlessly aims to spew shit at the target audience, whilst I can support japanese manufactoring companies that continue to present otkaus and alike with new merchandise? And judging by your remark, saying 40,000 Yen is "totally not a rip off in any way, shape or form, probably means you have never been to Japan, or specifically Akiba/Otome Road, because really, EVERYTHING anime is expensive, because most of the target audience that anime aims towards is adults (hence the decrease in anime and increase in hentai), completely different to the American demographic that's mostly teenagers that have little to no money to spend on fancy figurines and DVD sets. Most box sets range from 45,000Yen to 60,000yen (or even more), so I really don't see why you're being all sarcastic over a record, dirt cheap box-set that has dvds going 50+USD a piece anyways on dvd @ japan for 460USD. You're insane. I was born and raised in the USA and English is my first and only language, first and foremost, so I've got no use for overpriced raw DVDs from your GLORIOUS NIPPON. Secondly, if anybody is going to get my money it's going to be stateside companies who did the fucking work to get those subtitled DVDS in my hands. I'm not going to throw my cash at foreigners just so I can have extra street cred in the eyes of the "fandom". Fuck that. Anything anime or even western comics and cartoon collectables is expensive, I don't even want to figure out the total I spent on Sister Princess Merchandise, the DVD boxset costed $250 US alone I also bought 9 figures (the other 2 were in the boxset), 2 plates, and a poster. |
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| Hehe... some of the people here I KNOW would buy all 3 volumes of HnY Season 2's Endless Eight episodes for 9,000yen (~94usd) Just because it was marketed in Japan. Also, anyone who thinks no money goes back to the Original Producers are completely talking out of their asses. I've heard it from many respectable anime industry 'A-listers' that if you want to support the anime, buy the damn anime. I mean what is the point of all these 'high profile' people from the Japanese anime industry, bother flying across the Pacific to various anime conventions promoting the "localized" release of their anime? I can assure you, they're not doing it for free. Why would the original creator of Black Lagoon, Rei Hiroe, fly to Los Angeles and spend 4 days with a bunch of weebos and answering all their questions? Why would the director of Eden of the East and GitS:SAC, Kenji Kamiyama, promote his localized version of Eden of the East, and talk about his next project? Hell, why the fuck would Nabeshin stop and bother to shake my hand and say "thank you for being a fan" in a random convention center hallway? The only reason this shit is going on is for money, and if youre too stupid to understand that everything goes back to japan is just plain retarded. By the way... as of today Japanese Yen to a dollar is 115 yen to $1.00 usd That still doesn't explain why they have to sell Final Fantasy 13 for 9,000 Yen on launch day. |
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| it's always nice to see it on a TV but as for sub quality? If you got really good fansubs, most official translation match it at best or really aren't much better (case and point, Baccano!, the fansubs I saw were much better then the official ones) |
| Let me word this in a way we call all agree on.. Anime, costs money. And in retrospect; the authors are still BARELY managing to "Keep it going" but the prices can't go insanely high because we're in a reccession. It's a pricey tag, but one that is no where near as pricey as they need it to be to support themselfs. I wouldnt say it's an expensive hobby, but it is one that requires dedication from your pocket. |
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| Yeah, I like to buy DVD´s from my favorite animes. I just wait the end of the anime and your DVD launch to buy... It´s good to suport the industry, since there are very good anime DVD versions (with some dubs). But, the quality is equivalent.... |
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tehnominator said: Yes it's worth it? Of course nowadays you can just rip your BD quality files to discs and watch anime on your TV anyway, but I always prefer buying anime because people did a lot of work to put it out. I know too many people who say that they won't buy them because of the dubs, but if you don't like dubs, then watch it with the sub track. Well first off thats retarded, secondly who actually watch dubbed anime. If it where up to me they should get banned or atleast have the shame to never admit it. |
| I dunno what BD stands for, but apparently I can watch 1080p videos on my 50' without burning it on a disk or something. There's some device that connects to an external hard drive and I'm set to go. It's like a godsend device to me. |
| Wel I buy DVD's when I get the chance. I DVD box set of Wolf's rain and black cat. I also have Tenchi muyo love on DVD. I also collect manga. |
Onibokusu said: Yves said: Onibokusu said: tehnominator said: Yes it's worth it? Of course nowadays you can just rip your BD quality files to discs and watch anime on your TV anyway, I won't bother explaining how BD quality files won't fit on a DVD when burnt, but anyways... lol I've done this before. I could only fit one ep on a single disc, but the quality was great. I think it was only '720p' though. Don't they sell blank Blu-ray discs now? Ones that you can put your own stuff onto. A single episode per disc is a waste of time to me. Yes you can buy BD discs, but they require a Blu-Ray R/RW drive and those are expensive (at least when it comes to the average kid on MAL they are). Tachii said: I dunno what BD stands for, but apparently I can watch 1080p videos on my 50' without burning it on a disk or something. There's some device that connects to an external hard drive and I'm set to go. It's like a godsend device to me. Blu-Ray Disc, perhaps? You mean like a HD Media Player? I have something like that. I can play 1080p files right off of the device via a HDMI cable, the quality is amazing. Support .ASS subtitle tracks as well. It doesn't matter which player you use, as long as you have the codecs + know how to configure them. ? Supports* |
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| Man, the IQ in here hasn't changed since I last saw this yesterday. Those '720' and 1080 mkv files aren't 100% Blu-Ray Quality. BD quality is AAC files running at 8-13MB/s and Video files running at 25mb/s Even if you are getting 1280x1080 resolution the quality is still 20-30% of its source. Try ripping a blu ray or a transport stream and you'll see what I mean. The next step down from true lossless BD quality would be transport streaming (pure digital television streams) or *.ts These are files you can actually put on a hard drive and hook up said hard drive to your cable box and it can actually read it. You can't call yourself hardcore anime fan untill you download to 30-minute episodes of Keroro Gunsou at 2.2gb per episode. Truth :P Anything diverging from optical or digital cable... there is guaranteed loss. Also, if you're smart enough to "burn dvds" with 5 1080p episodes... you should be smart enough to learn how to Dual screen a HDMI enabled television. If you cant HDMI... the next step would be learning how to network your pc to your xbox/ps3. But im sure all of these easy alternatives escapes the common MAL kid. @yves... <facepalm> did you seriously put a 700mb episode on to a CD?!? </facepalm> |
RanivusJul 22, 2010 11:32 PM
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GreyWinged said: You're implying that nobody watches dubs -and- those select few that do should be banned from MAL? Are you TRYING to get people to label you as a troll? It is to my understanding that people who is into anime watches it like its meant to be watched and how dare you utter that word. GreyWinged said: I watch dubs. I have always watched dubs. By default? Never. But throughout the course of most shows I'll usually watch half in the original language with English subtitles and the other half dubbed in English. Is that so wrong? Why would you even do such a thing. Do you have that strange habit when watching movies aswell ? Consistency is nice, try it. |
Onibokusu said: My opinion of MAL's users dropped another three points. Mine has been at the bottom for some time now which you are a good reflection of. |
Onibokusu said: HDMI sounds familiar, so yeah, it's probably a HD media player. It also apparently can connect to youtube so I can watch those, but I rarely ever touch it unless I want some random songs in the basement. Tachii said: I dunno what BD stands for, but apparently I can watch 1080p videos on my 50' without burning it on a disk or something. There's some device that connects to an external hard drive and I'm set to go. It's like a godsend device to me. Blu-Ray Disc, perhaps? You mean like a HD Media Player? I have something like that. I can play 1080p files right off of the device via a HDMI cable, the quality is amazing. Support .ASS subtitle tracks as well. But I just realized, I rarely played 1080p. It's too huge compared to 720p. Certain movies (*cough) go up to 11GB. And since my DSL provider has a limit to how much I can download (and I need to overpay if I do exceed), I try to limit as much as possible without really hurting the experience. D: |
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