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Sep 5, 2009 1:27 PM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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TRAP!

I can already imagine this becoming a material for Yuki's BL novels....
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Mar 7, 2010 1:26 PM
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HAHAHA !
Beautiful girl ...
Already love it. XD
She know how to give jealousy to the others. XD
Mar 7, 2010 2:57 PM
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One hell of a trap. -_- But he acted perfect as a girl.
And that 'wtf' at the end is just Mina's dream, right?
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Mar 7, 2010 3:29 PM
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Angie is a guy O_O? WTF @_@ *sigh* well there goes that development, but lmao what a trap xD still this character is definitely a worthwhile addition to the series.
Mar 7, 2010 3:56 PM
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I just step on a TRAP! dang?!
Mar 7, 2010 4:32 PM
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It's so weird, because in the beginning of the chapter they refer to Angie as 'she', but Angie is obviously a guy after they explained the gender of the Earth Clan. Confusing...
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jujubeeza said:
It's so weird, because in the beginning of the chapter they refer to Angie as 'she', but Angie is obviously a guy after they explained the gender of the Earth Clan. Confusing...


I think that's a problem of the translation to english. In japanese there are pronouns without genre, so i think that originally Angie was referred without a clear sex identity, but this can't be done in english.
Mar 7, 2010 6:20 PM
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lol didn`t expect that to be the case xD. Funny how Angie managed to rile up the girls with the stories of the past though, and curioous as top what happened in the end.
Mar 7, 2010 7:26 PM
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Deadly Poisonous Decapitating trap. !
we got owned haha
so angie is a guy
and now to mina-sama dream of being human.
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khal said:
jujubeeza said:
It's so weird, because in the beginning of the chapter they refer to Angie as 'she', but Angie is obviously a guy after they explained the gender of the Earth Clan. Confusing...


I think that's a problem of the translation to english. In japanese there are pronouns without genre, so i think that originally Angie was referred without a clear sex identity, but this can't be done in english.


this + Mina (you'd think she would know that the earth clan is all male) and Yuki assumed he was female.
Mar 7, 2010 11:33 PM

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so she is actually a he, and mina seems to be having a nice dream, or maybe something more sinister is going on....
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I wonder why Mina didn't known that only males are allowed in earth clan? o_O
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I wonder why Mina didn't known that only males are allowed in earth clan? o_O
Plot hole? well Mina is the queen of vampire not werewolves, perhaps werewolves hid something from them even though the vampire is their master
Mar 8, 2010 3:11 AM

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Interesting to see Mina jumping to conclusions here. Then again, spying on them isn't such a smart thing to do either, considering what it led to.

And Angie being a guy was an interesting point. Guess some Earth Clan members look quite feminine then.

I wonder how long it will take before Mina finds out what Angie really is. Right now, she feels as if Akira likes Angie more than her, which is probably what triggered that dream.
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Laevantein said:
OrochiPL said:
I wonder why Mina didn't known that only males are allowed in earth clan? o_O
Plot hole? well Mina is the queen of vampire not werewolves, perhaps werewolves hid something from them even though the vampire is their master

Plot hole sounds rather reasonable, but werewolves(earth clan) protect Mina for all those years, and yet she didn't notice that every time her guards were male? -_-
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TRAP!

OrochiPL said:
Laevantein said:
OrochiPL said:
I wonder why Mina didn't known that only males are allowed in earth clan? o_O
Plot hole? well Mina is the queen of vampire not werewolves, perhaps werewolves hid something from them even though the vampire is their master

Plot hole sounds rather reasonable, but werewolves(earth clan) protect Mina for all those years, and yet she didn't notice that every time her guards were male? -_-


But when did she says that she didn't knew that he was a boy? She could know all the time, but yet deslike the relationship between them. For me, only Yuki was the one who didn't knew all the time.
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What a waste! She/he is so cute ><
Mar 9, 2010 10:26 PM

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TRAP!

I can already imagine this becoming a material for Yuki's BL novels....
And I fell right into it D:

And yeah, somehow, this will most likely end up in Yuki's novels : |

Also, strange dream Mina was having in the end?

Faytz said:
OrochiPL said:
Laevantein said:
OrochiPL said:
I wonder why Mina didn't known that only males are allowed in earth clan? o_O
Plot hole? well Mina is the queen of vampire not werewolves, perhaps werewolves hid something from them even though the vampire is their master
Plot hole sounds rather reasonable, but werewolves(earth clan) protect Mina for all those years, and yet she didn't notice that every time her guards were male? -_-
But when did she says that she didn't knew that he was a boy? She could know all the time, but yet deslike the relationship between them. For me, only Yuki was the one who didn't knew all the time.
Besides, isn't it only natural to have male bodyguards? I might be wrong, but there sure aren't many female bodyguards that I know of : p (And thus it'd be natural to see that all her bodyguards were male)
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That was one epic trap...
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TRAAAAAAAP! (and I completely fell for it)

This is so going in Yuki's book.
Mar 14, 2010 6:40 AM

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Ending is confusing; on the surface it seems like a dream, but that would be way to random if thats the case.
Angie can be a boys name? He had us going right from the start with the skinship stuff. (Note i almost typed "she") lol.
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Awesome trap is awesome xD
I had real "oh snap" moment there that actually made me laugh a bit to myself =P

Interesting glance over to the next chapter, assuringly she's just having a dream of what seems to be a normal life with Akira.
But seeing as she appeared to be completely aware in the dream there's probably something more interesting behind all this :)
Mar 22, 2010 4:14 AM

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IT'S A TRAP.

I have to wonder what's going on here for the next episode, perhaps Akira took notice of Mina's mood and did some things for her? Still, he sure took an ordering tone that even as close to her as he is would be a bit odd. No amount of closeness should stop such speech from being inappropriate.

A dream, as another stated? That would also be weird.
I'm just...ugh, wow. I can't wait to see where they're going with this.

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khal said:
jujubeeza said:
It's so weird, because in the beginning of the chapter they refer to Angie as 'she', but Angie is obviously a guy after they explained the gender of the Earth Clan. Confusing...


I think that's a problem of the translation to english. In japanese there are pronouns without genre, so i think that originally Angie was referred without a clear sex identity, but this can't be done in english.


It can still be avoided by using a smart way of writing. BTW if you think about it because of the way the Japanese language works is perfect for introducing traps.

Anyway i think Mina knew but was still jealous.

That scene at the end was strange. Was that really a dream or are the windows special. But he also called her Mina instead of Hime-san so it looks like an ordinary life kind of dream.
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Ting ting! ow, it's a battle of love :D
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if their clans don't have female, how do they reproduce ? o_O
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Finest looking trap I've seen in a long time.

Shouldn't Mina have known about it though?
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I'm liking Angie more and more.
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