Does chinese animation lack productions of culture?

But what are the reasons they do that?

@Zarutaku spiritual reasons apparently lol ye they are spiritual but not religious

China bans pornography because the government considers it "spiritual pollution" that harms individuals and society, damaging physical and mental health, corrupting social morals, and undermining traditional Chinese cultural values. The ban aligns with broader Chinese censorship efforts aimed at controlling content that is seen as detrimental to national unity, social order, and traditional ethics.

I guess that explains why Japan has a morally corrupt society that has abandoned its traditional cultural values, lost all sense of national unity and sunk into social chaos.

@Tirinchas yep exactly damn but then china wants to be a superpower unlike japan that is fine being docile now so they think anime makes men weak lol

@Zarutaku spiritual reasons apparently lol ye they are spiritual but not religious

China bans pornography because the government considers it "spiritual pollution" that harms individuals and society, damaging physical and mental health, corrupting social morals, and undermining traditional Chinese cultural values. The ban aligns with broader Chinese censorship efforts aimed at controlling content that is seen as detrimental to national unity, social order, and traditional ethics.

@Tirinchas yep exactly damn but then china wants to be a superpower unlike japan that is fine being docile now so they think anime makes men weak lol

@deg Why do they think Japan is docile because of anime? I'm sure it's because Japan got smashed during WWII, Germany is also docile because of that.

@Zarutaku no idea thats just pop in my head with how cute anime girls makes men weak i heard on some toxic masculinity people and we know china wants to be seen as a superpower a very strong nation

The way they censor kisses is crazy too ! Even removing, changing scenes when adapting them to remove sexual tension...
Sometimes they even reedit scenes from non chinese shows, it's scarily laughtable.

This one has a fair bit of ecchi, though it isn't tagged as such on MAL. (Maybe it was in the past?)

https://myanimelist.net/anime/32323/Aishen_Qiaokeli-ing

AniDB also lists some more, but the ecchi level is pretty mild across the board.

I still to this day cannot understand how this reconciles with Maoist ideology or even post-Dengist (after Deng Xiaoping's reforms) reformed state socialist ideology. By the 21st century it's devolved (or evolved, depending on one's perspective) into basically licensed state capitalism but should still retain secularism. So I don't see how ensuring all legally-approved national level culture kowtows to traditional Chinese folk religious beliefs or Taoist or Mahayana Buddhist precepts squares with that vision when being beholden to it was regarded as outdated and backwards by the 1960s.

I get that they've reversed some of and distanced themselves from the legacy of the original cult of Mao and the Cultural Revolution in the same way that the Soviet Union from Khruschev on adhered to de-Stalinization and disavowed and repudiated a lot of what came before, but the Soviets ultimately "reformed" themselves into oblivion and non-existence. China still retains the same state today, so I didn't expect them to go so far in the other direction.

Unless it truly is like a mirror of the U.S., where only minimal lip service is paid to the original state founders and their system and principles and in practice they trample old laws and guiding principles and see it shat on every day. If it's not just economic transition to markets but in the cultural sphere as well, then communism seems equally as much or more of a ceremonial hollow decoration and trapping only used to derive legitimacy and guide nothing in modern China as small government classical liberalism in the West.

I still to this day cannot understand how this reconciles with Maoist ideology or even post-Dengist (after Deng Xiaoping's reforms) reformed state socialist ideology. By the 21st century it's devolved (or evolved, depending on one's perspective) into basically licensed state capitalism but should still retain secularism. So I don't see how ensuring all legally-approved national level culture kowtows to traditional Chinese folk religious beliefs or Taoist or Mahayana Buddhist precepts squares with that vision when being beholden to it was regarded as outdated and backwards by the 1960s.

I get that they've reversed some of and distanced themselves from the legacy of the original cult of Mao and the Cultural Revolution in the same way that the Soviet Union from Khruschev on adhered to de-Stalinization and disavowed and repudiated a lot of what came before, but the Soviets ultimately "reformed" themselves into oblivion and non-existence. China still retains the same state today, so I didn't expect them to go so far in the other direction.

Unless it truly is like a mirror of the U.S., where only minimal lip service is paid to the original state founders and their system and principles and in practice they trample old laws and guiding principles and see it shat on every day. If it's not just economic transition to markets but in the cultural sphere as well, then communism seems equally as much or more of a ceremonial hollow decoration and trapping only used to derive legitimacy and guide nothing in modern China as small government classical liberalism in the West.

@piroriparopirira

This reminded me of India recently censoring kisses from the recent Superman movie for being 'indecent', heterosexual kisses being censored in India.

@piroriparopirira

This reminded me of India recently censoring kisses from the recent Superman movie for being 'indecent', heterosexual kisses being censored in India.

They are pretty boy bait for women. Not really for men so yeah.

@WatchTillTandava The difference between China and USSR was that between Mao and Lenin. Both advocated for the "state capitalist" kind of economy but their implementation was completely different. Lenin thought of the state as the only absolute capitalist while Mao retained the capitalist class as a group of people to be exploited by the working class. The big rich Chinese guys have zero political power and when the party (representing the working class) say jump they ask "how high?".

Under this concept all private enterprises work one way or another under the financing and supervision of the CCP. In short anime there would be what the government wants it to be.

From what i understand from conversations with my Chinese friends the government wants young people to meet, fall in love and make families. Those "people of culture" in the eyes of CCP promote an unrealistic portrait of women (mostly) and men (in a lesser degree). The CCP believes that you cannot grow up in this environment and still seek to make a family and most Chinese civilians are okay with that.


(Just expressing some basic political theory and anecdotal knowledge here, i am not taking sides)

Are you saying that Chinese society doesn't have excessive female beauty standards? Because I heard the beauty craze among Chinese women is pretty high as well, which shouldn't be surprising since increasing one's sexual market value is deeply rooted in the biology of most life forms, including humans.

@Zarutaku there is no such thing as "sexual market value" Sir . Chinese (and other) societies can glorify plastic dolls with filters all they want but at the end the value of a woman is not her meat. Exaggerated beauty gets clicks from other women and promotes popularity but all the average man wants is to share a bed and a table with someone who loves and supports him. A society is not what you see in the media.

If you have watched any documentaries on primitive tribes a man's "sexual value" is to be a good hunter and provide food while a woman's is to be quiet and provide a lot of kids. This is simplified basic biology.

@MalchikRepaid Does that mean South Korean men dislike cute anime girls?

Sort of like that.



Not really true as well. People should really stop painting the Chinese government as an evil entity so easily. We are already living in a world when Western style democracy is becoming more oppressive than "Chinese communism".



China's beauty standard is much low in contrast to South Korea's beauty standard.

Like others have said, it's mostly just regulations. But I think it's most hard on the donghuas level. Manhuas(Chinese webtoons) skirt around the line alot with this, and I've even seen some manhuas that are as ecchi as it gets

I can say this nevertheless because South Koreans will physically harm themselves for not matching up to their beauty standard. And it's unfortunately a norm here in South Korea. Not something I would support, but I indirectly witnessed them as a university student in South Korea.

South Korea: absolutely great for making money as foreign business owners, worst for living as South Koreans.

But don't forget the Chinese investment money to make some Japanese production companies to stay float. That's the real power of China influencing the anime industry.

You can hate China all you want, but you can't avoid China at all cost. It's the reality.

The Chinese government is not a federal government like in Bundesrepublik Deutschland or in Amerika.

And "I only hate the government, not the people" is a very cliche way of expressing one's thought.

Hmmm, I see that you like freedom and women of your taste.



I guess we have to agree to disagree because government = people is the general consensus in Asia that includes pro-Western countries South Korea and Japan.

I still to this day cannot understand how this reconciles with Maoist ideology or even post-Dengist (after Deng Xiaoping's reforms) reformed state socialist ideology. By the 21st century it's devolved (or evolved, depending on one's perspective) into basically licensed state capitalism but should still retain secularism. So I don't see how ensuring all legally-approved national level culture kowtows to traditional Chinese folk religious beliefs or Taoist or Mahayana Buddhist precepts squares with that vision when being beholden to it was regarded as outdated and backwards by the 1960s.

I get that they've reversed some of and distanced themselves from the legacy of the original cult of Mao and the Cultural Revolution in the same way that the Soviet Union from Khruschev on adhered to de-Stalinization and disavowed and repudiated a lot of what came before, but the Soviets ultimately "reformed" themselves into oblivion and non-existence. China still retains the same state today, so I didn't expect them to go so far in the other direction.

Unless it truly is like a mirror of the U.S., where only minimal lip service is paid to the original state founders and their system and principles and in practice they trample old laws and guiding principles and see it shat on every day. If it's not just economic transition to markets but in the cultural sphere as well, then communism seems equally as much or more of a ceremonial hollow decoration and trapping only used to derive legitimacy and guide nothing in modern China as small government classical liberalism in the West.