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Feb 17, 2010 2:25 AM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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So, my take on all of this is:
Kishi was watching Star Wars III while being drunk and smoking something.

Then he decided -
"What a good idea would be to turn Saucegay into Anakin-wannabe(and annakin already was darthvader-wannabe).

Oh and lets make the manga females even moar useless! yay!~

This will be great!"


And nao add obi wan Kakashi to fight Saucegay(even if by logic Saucegay should be in coma already due to no chakra left ) as to hype up saucegay even moar!~!~

Oh and we will totally fall for yet another "try to make look like kakashi will die" thing. Like hell we will, after his anti-death cop out plothaxx in pain arc.


Kishi, please note the fans of this once-great manga, if you plan on to turn the final fight into crappy gay-seed ender like assrun/kira fight between Naruto/Sauce. We will gladly drop this manga then ^_^
Feb 17, 2010 1:29 PM
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As much as I disagreed with you on the pain arc...I'm agreeing with you 100% now. This lame ass Sasuke/Anakin angle is just so dumb, and feels so forced and just...bad
Feb 17, 2010 1:38 PM
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Fai said:

Kishi, please note the fans of this once-great manga, if you plan on to turn the final fight into crappy gay-seed ender like assrun/kira fight between Naruto/Sauce. We will gladly drop this manga then ^_^


There's plenty more people who love this manga than hate it, i.e the rating isn't terrible. I personally loved this chapter! Trust me Fai, you're one of the few who dislike the angle this manga is going towards.

Feb 17, 2010 1:43 PM
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So awesome! Everyone wants to kill eachother and Kakashi is finally being awesome again. Awesome chapter, awesome!
Feb 17, 2010 1:49 PM
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Lucjan said:
Fai said:

Kishi, please note the fans of this once-great manga, if you plan on to turn the final fight into crappy gay-seed ender like assrun/kira fight between Naruto/Sauce. We will gladly drop this manga then ^_^


There's plenty more people who love this manga than hate it, i.e the rating isn't terrible. I personally loved this chapter! Trust me Fai, you're one of the few who dislike the angle this manga is going towards.


Sure there are a lot of people who are blind enough as not to see what is wrong with this manga, its illogical and utterly stupid plot twists, character degradation and mary-sue-saucegay-who-suddenly-goes-anakin

Jesuvius said:
Kakashi is finally being awesome again.


watch kakashi get owned and "die" yet again, so Kishi can hype up his OMG-EVIL-POWAH Saucegay.
Feb 17, 2010 1:57 PM
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Fai said:
watch kakashi get owned and "die" yet again, so Kishi can hype up his OMG-EVIL-POWAH Saucegay.


Man, you sure have some issues, don't you? :P

First of all, it's Kishimoto's own manga so he can do whatever he pleases.
Second, I don't really like Sasuke but there's a limit to how much you can hate a fictional character while being sane.
Feb 17, 2010 1:59 PM
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oh Naruto is coming with sage mode on apparently.
good think they took away Sakura for now.
Kakakshi better not die AGAIN.

till some other time...

and fuck the haters.
Feb 17, 2010 2:04 PM
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Fai said:
Lucjan said:
Fai said:

Kishi, please note the fans of this once-great manga, if you plan on to turn the final fight into crappy gay-seed ender like assrun/kira fight between Naruto/Sauce. We will gladly drop this manga then ^_^


There's plenty more people who love this manga than hate it, i.e the rating isn't terrible. I personally loved this chapter! Trust me Fai, you're one of the few who dislike the angle this manga is going towards.


Sure there are a lot of people who are blind enough as not to see what is wrong with this manga, its illogical and utterly stupid plot twists, character degradation and mary-sue-saucegay-who-suddenly-goes-anakin.


This is a fictional universe with people who have the power to demolish land marks the size of cities created by a Japanese man... Don't take this so seriously!

Also, if you remember, Sasuke was healed by Karin and Zetsu, so his chakra was replenished twice.

Feb 17, 2010 2:36 PM
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Okay. I'm done with this manga is Sasuke manages to hurt Kakashi even a little. He should have no energy let alone chakra when this is over. From kages, danzo, and kakashi. This shit is ridiculous. Logically Kakashi should own Sasuke regardless. But ever since hatred took over apparently kishi doesn't use his own logic. wtf
Feb 17, 2010 2:47 PM

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Oh yey ...
You rulez Sasuke ...
Or not.
Feb 17, 2010 2:51 PM

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He should have no energy let alone chakra when this is over. From kages, danzo, and kakashi.


Did you miss the part where not only Zetsu, but Karen replenished Sasuke's chakra?

Feb 17, 2010 3:02 PM

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Lucjan said:
Ishmael said:
He should have no energy let alone chakra when this is over. From kages, danzo, and kakashi.


Did you miss the part where not only Zetsu, but Karen replenished Sasuke's chakra?


No I didn't. It still doesn't explain massive powerups just from being angry. He's a damn ninja for christ sake. Plus he should be fatigued regardless. Physically I mean. In fact kishi should make it known next chapter the effects of using the "super sharingan" so much.
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Ishmael said:
Lucjan said:
Ishmael said:
He should have no energy let alone chakra when this is over. From kages, danzo, and kakashi.


Did you miss the part where not only Zetsu, but Karen replenished Sasuke's chakra?


No I didn't. It still doesn't explain massive powerups just from being angry. He's a damn ninja for christ sake. Plus he should be fatigued regardless. Physically I mean. In fact kishi should make it known next chapter the effects of using the "super sharingan" so much.


Okay, I get your point. But

A) It's already been noted how fatigued Sasuke is. He can't even activate his Sharingan anymore, as Danzo stated, and it appears that he's slower. I hope this isn't speculation though, and Kishi's not pulling a fast one on us >.>

B) The Sharingan's been noted in the beginning chapters that rage, fear, or extreme anxiety supply it power.

Feb 17, 2010 3:35 PM

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yea, but without any training and the consistent amount of sharingan users it tends to get played out. I'm hoping Sasuke gets taken out this time. No more freebies. Or getting saved. Although knowing Madara he'll intervene.
Feb 17, 2010 3:48 PM

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well, i was glad it turned out that sakura wanted to kill him, but sasuke is such a prick, he was going to kill her anyways; kakashi vs sasuke should be interesting
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Feb 17, 2010 3:54 PM

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This should be very one sided seeing as Sasuke already used Susanoo, and Amaterasu, but knowing how bullshit Naruto has become. He's going to just regain all his chakra within the second. And he's not tired from the fight anymore somehow.
Feb 17, 2010 3:56 PM

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Lucjan said:


A) It's already been noted how fatigued Sasuke is. He can't even activate his Sharingan anymore, as Danzo stated, and it appears that he's slower. I hope this isn't speculation though, and Kishi's not pulling a fast one on us >.>


Next chapter:
KakashI: *kicks sauce arounD*
Sauce: noo, gahhh, aaaaaaa
Kakashi: *kicks sauce around*
Sauce: *blabbers about darkness and revenge*
Sauce: *gets fullhealed*
Madara: He got Izanami !!!! The legendary healing technique which restores the power of sharingan user!!!111111 *pets a flask sharingan*
Naruto: *one panel of him going through forest*

Chapter after that:
Sauce attacks Kakashi, Naruto saves Kakashi, Madara takes Saucegay away doing another EEEVIIIILLLL speech.



Lucjan said:

B) The Sharingan's been noted in the beginning chapters that rage, fear, or extreme anxiety supply it power.


It helps to activate it.

To "activate" the power it takes years of training (look at Itachi)

the "my emo darkness powers me" trend started with madara.
Feb 17, 2010 3:57 PM

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Well at least team 7 met again but Sasuke has completely lost it now attacking Sakura from behind thats low
Feb 17, 2010 4:02 PM

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Point blank: Sasuke should NOT escape this fight without a thorough ass whooping. Reasons should be obvious. Sasuke winning should be even more out of the question. I've almost always hated him, but I must admit I enjoyed the more logically, cold asshole than this maniac he's become.

At this point, it feels like Konoha's trying to put down a rabid dog. Nothing more.
Feb 17, 2010 4:16 PM

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There's no way Sasuke can win after the beating he took from Danzo. It wouldn't make any sense if Kekaishi dies when Sasuke is weak now. I won't be surprise if Naruto ends up saving Kekaishi or something like that.
Feb 17, 2010 4:39 PM

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If Sasuke wins that is the lamest thing I've ever seen. He just beat Danzou so he shouldn't be able to do a thing to Kakashi.

But otherwise, the whole "Kakashi saving Sakura" scene was lame and obvious. I don't get why they title the chapter to point out the the supposed "shocking" scenes. (like last week with OP)
Feb 17, 2010 4:40 PM

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Well, at least Kishi didn't assassinate Sakura's character, like most people believed(myself included) at the end of last week's chapter.

That aside...on to bigger and better things: Kakashi's going to kick Sasuke's ass next week.

Kakashi: "It's over Sasuke! I have the high ground!"
Feb 17, 2010 4:42 PM

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okay so i can understand why people think this has gone on far too long etc.
infact i think so too but this chapter wasn't too terrible, apart from sakura not getting killed, saucegay being gay and imdating the equally gay light yagami's 'evil laugh'.

okay so maybe the bit i liked was kakashi entering the fray, he'll own sauce's ass, he won't win and i doubt neither will die, kishi wont do that too early on.

But overally, alright chapter, naruto should go and help but not yet, i wants to see kakashi own some ass!
Feb 17, 2010 4:45 PM

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"Sasuke... I'll say this one more time...

STOP YOUR OBSESSION WITH EYELINER"

That's what Kakashi should have said.
Feb 17, 2010 4:46 PM

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Come on Naruto! Avenge your title soon. Kakashi will probably win :D
Feb 17, 2010 4:47 PM

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Hmm i get myself irritated by Sasuke chapter by chapter..XD
Ok chapter i guess
Feb 17, 2010 4:50 PM

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By the time Naruto gets there he is already going
to be wearing the cloak........
Feb 17, 2010 4:50 PM

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Man, you sure have some issues, don't you? :P

First of all, it's Kishimoto's own manga so he can do whatever he pleases.
Second, I don't really like Sasuke but there's a limit to how much you can hate a fictional character while being sane.

As much as I think Fai is just a loser who has nothing better to do than vent about Shonen manga online, he's pretty much hit the nail on this one for once. Naruto is pretty much just bullshit right now, and this is coming from someone who enjoyed this series until everyone got revived by Dragon Balls.
Feb 17, 2010 4:52 PM

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Sasuke continues to be a douche. I had to chuckle when he started his crazy laughter. His face was just hilarious. lmao. But reading this thread is more amusing than the chapter itself.
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So, my take on all of this is:
Kishi was watching Star Wars III while being drunk and smoking something.

Then he decided -
"What a good idea would be to turn Saucegay into Anakin-wannabe(and annakin already was darthvader-wannabe).

Kishi, please note the fans of this once-great manga, if you plan on to turn the final fight into crappy gay-seed ender like assrun/kira fight between Naruto/Sauce. We will gladly drop this manga then ^_^

I agree with this post.
Feb 17, 2010 5:49 PM
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This is hilarious.

Sure, the plot's totally ridiculous and practically anything, no matter how outrageous (except Kakashi dying a second time), could happen at this point. But you know what? Whatevs, 'yo. Whatevs.
Feb 17, 2010 5:59 PM
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Kakashi won't die.

He already did.
Feb 17, 2010 6:53 PM

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Fai said:
So, my take on all of this is:
Kishi was watching Star Wars III while being drunk and smoking something.

Then he decided -
"What a good idea would be to turn Saucegay into Anakin-wannabe(and annakin already was darthvader-wannabe).

Oh and lets make the manga females even moar useless! yay!~

This will be great!"


And nao add obi wan Kakashi to fight Saucegay(even if by logic Saucegay should be in coma already due to no chakra left ) as to hype up saucegay even moar!~!~

Except Sasuke didn't force choke her. And technically Masashi Kishimoto is a movie junkie. Though while I don't know if he has seen Star Wars (then again who hasn't), I do know he is into the Matrix which explains Gaara's outfit. On a more unrelated note, when and why exactly did you start hating Naruto Fai?
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Anyway about the chapter itself, is it just me or does everyone who comments on these Naruto threads have bi-polar disorder? Wasn't it only 2 chapters ago that everybody gave Sasuke props for being villainous? Besides that, wouldn't Madara simply swoop down Sasuke like last time?

And why does Kishimoto continue to make Sakura seem weak? I don't expect her to successfully kill Sasuke, but at the very least don't immediately resort to Sakura having her ass saved before she makes an attempt to execute her plan. But hey, I've witnessed more sexist stunts in stories that targets the shonen demographic, I guess.

DonKangolJones said:
At this point, it feels like Konoha's trying to put down a rabid dog. Nothing more.

As if "mentally" neutering Sasuke's drive towards killing Itachi wasn't enough.
Feb 17, 2010 7:42 PM

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Somehow, I feel Kishi is going to show Sasuke own Kakashi a bit, then Naruto goes to save Kakashi's butt. I totally agree with Fai on his Star Wars theory. It really looks like a repeat of the whole premise.
Feb 17, 2010 7:59 PM

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Fai said:
THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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So, my take on all of this is:
Kishi was watching Star Wars III while being drunk and smoking something.

Then he decided -
"What a good idea would be to turn Saucegay into Anakin-wannabe(and annakin already was darthvader-wannabe).

Oh and lets make the manga females even moar useless! yay!~

This will be great!"


And nao add obi wan Kakashi to fight Saucegay(even if by logic Saucegay should be in coma already due to no chakra left ) as to hype up saucegay even moar!~!~

Oh and we will totally fall for yet another "try to make look like kakashi will die" thing. Like hell we will, after his anti-death cop out plothaxx in pain arc.


Kishi, please note the fans of this once-great manga, if you plan on to turn the final fight into crappy gay-seed ender like assrun/kira fight between Naruto/Sauce. We will gladly drop this manga then ^_^
Feb 17, 2010 8:04 PM

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I thought it was a very good chapter, We finally get to see Kakashi in action, and I doubt he's gonna die....again, either he'll be saved by Naruto or Naruto will stop Kakashi from trying to kill Sasuke ( I hope thats not it) but I cant wait to see how this plays out ^^

and Fai, seriously what is your issue with this series? If your gonna make a score thread, stop adding 0/5 to attract haters, this chapter was hell of alot better than last weeks
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I just wanted to burn the last panel.
That's just jueling the SasuSaku fans out there
*Covers in terror*

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Feb 17, 2010 8:08 PM

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I'm actually hoping that Kakashi either kills Sasuke, or Sasuke pulls some bullshit move to wound Kakashi enough as to warrant Naruto to finally take action and kill Sasuke himself.

I do NOT want to see Sasuke redeemed at this point. He's gone too far and I think it'd be stupid to even try to have Naruto change him.

I'm picturing the "final boss" to be Madara at this point, not Sasuke. Perhaps Naruto's final character growth will come from knowing that Sasuke is finally beyond saving since he just tried to kill Sakura, and is about to fight Kakashi. That's what I'm hoping at least.
Feb 17, 2010 8:10 PM

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"Sasuke, I dont like saying the same things over and over again... (but since I'm a shounen character i have to P:)."

Anyway, this is mildly more interesting than the Sauce vs Pain stuff. I wonder if Sakura and Karin will become friends or something.

Also thanks Kishi for proving once again that Sasuke is emo and gay. Thanks.


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can they just give sasuke his own manga so i dont have to see him anymore in naruto sasuke cannot fill the role as lead main character as much as kishi trys it wont work he way to emo.
Feb 17, 2010 8:14 PM

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lol @ fai, you never cease to amuse me with your idiocy. I don't know how to interpret your words in any other way.

I'm just interested in how this fight might reveal new things. I mean if someone dies, that's just dumb; I just want to see something new I guess.
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Naruto still acting gay as ever!!

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You know, about all that hatred toward Sasuke...

I'm not his fan, nor do I like his character, but if anything, his wish for revenge is at least justified, no to mention his behaviour.

As little boy he witnessed massacre of his clan, lived only to kill Itachi, and finally found out that Itachi too was victim who sacrificied his honor for lis little brother.

I don't for others, but if I experienced the same, I would most likely wanted to kill those who were resposible for murder of my family.

If anything, I think you should only feel sorry for him.
Feb 17, 2010 8:38 PM

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I got so giddy when he tried to kill Sakura. Her death was soooo close!
Sasuke has gone off the deep end and i had excitement running through me the whole time!

I think Sasuke will make Kakashi unable to fight and just as he is about to kill him Naruto will run up, "Saaaaaaaaasukeeeeee!" and deck him in the face. Then they will fight with words. Naruto saying "no no this is baaaad!" and Sasuke "you dont know the pain ive been throughhhh!"

I liked this chapter. Oh and Kiba was adorable.
Feb 17, 2010 8:49 PM

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GOD SASUKE IS SO AWESOME
逃げちゃ駄目だ。
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Couldn't you make us happy and let Sakura die that bitch.
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Feb 17, 2010 9:22 PM

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Aw Sasuke got cockblocked by Kakashi...he was so close to killing Sakura too! Evil Sasuke is actually pretty enjoyable and I don't understand people who complain about him. This is exactly how he should be acting after learning everything about Itachi.

Of course, Naruto's gonna catch up to Sasuke, save Kakashi, and go 9TK and beat the shit out of everyone.
Feb 17, 2010 9:23 PM

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sasuke is my hero.
Feb 17, 2010 9:34 PM

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This chapter was okay I guess. I had a feeling he was going to ask Sakura to kill Karin, but then he was going to kill her, which would've been a stupid move, you know, seeing as how she is a healer. She would've definitely benefited him. Sakura was pretty much a plot device, seemingly to get information out of Karin, and I don't know why I have this feeling that after she's healed, she won't talk due to her blind love for Sasuke. At least Sakura have her priorities straight.

That aside, seems that was her objective all the time. Try to kill Sasuke to take the burden off of Naruto and the others due to feeling obligated to try and do something.
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You know, about all that hatred toward Sasuke...

I'm not his fan, nor do I like his character, but if anything, his wish for revenge is at least justified, no to mention his behaviour.
In what way is it justified? He wants to destroy all of Konoha. If anything, he should only target those that actually /had/ something to do with the slaughtering of his clan, not those who had nothing to do with it in any way or form, exe, his former classmates for one.

Like I always said, in the beginning, I felt his actions were more justified (not right, but I can understand why he was the way that he was), but now he's just being selfish and unreasonable.

I don't for others, but if I experienced the same, I would most likely wanted to kill those who were resposible for murder of my family.
Exactly! What does random housewife number 3 of Konoha has to do with the slaughtering of his clan? What does Konohamaru or his classmates have to do with the slaughtering of his clan. What does Sasuke's former schoolmates have to do with the slaughtering of his clan? What did any of the innocent civilians of Konoha have to do with the slaughtering of his clan? It's like a teacher punishing the entire class for one student misbehaving.

If anything, I think you should only feel sorry for him.
I did in the beginning, but it's difficult to now since he's actually involving innocent people that had no connection to his clan's slaughtering in any way or form.

I don't hate his character (I don't hate any Naruto character, ironically), but I'm not a fan of him either. I'm not a fan of Naruto or Sakura either. Coincidentally, seems most of my favorite characters are in other teams.
Feb 17, 2010 9:43 PM

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Dammit Kakashi! You pick the worst times to interfere. We were so close to getting rid of Sakura!


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Sasuke disbelieves Sakura and asks her to kill Karin. Sakura "tries" to kill Sasuke but is instead saved by Kakashi. Kakashi and Sasuke prepare for battle while Naruto is still far away... I think if I go back to the previous chapter's discussion I can find a lot of people who predicted this exact setup.
As much as I dislike Sasuke's character, I have to recognize that I like that touch of insanity he had in this chapter (If only it wasn't still so fucking emo) and the fact that he almost killed Sakura. Damn Kakashi for interrupting.
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