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| i appreciate how i'm probably gonna be thinking about it and slightly traumatized for the rest of my life but i can't help thinking like, i watch anime to feel better or i guess i watch it like deep thinking great art make-me-cry stuff too i don't know, i love banana fish, i love Orb, i loved this but i dunno if i'll ever want to ever watch it again you know? still a 10 but sheeesh dear lord i hope they never do punpun |
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| So in the end, that octopus alien sacrifices itself to make them happy... |
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| Honestly, the ending was a solid 7.5, but the anime was great up until episode 5. Takopi sacrificing himself felt underdeveloped — it was like, "Huh? Where did Takopi get this power from all of a sudden?" The author also skipped over the part where the girl kidnapped her sisters. And Shizuka being bullied by Marina, then suddenly they both remember Takopi and become friends? I was like, "What???" |
Reply to HaXXspetten
How do you even summarize this show
Honestly it's a remarkable package for such a short anime. The things it makes you feel and the genuine surprise developments every episode, it's all just so good
Actual anime of the year frontrunner atm. Did not think I would say that coming into it
Honestly it's a remarkable package for such a short anime. The things it makes you feel and the genuine surprise developments every episode, it's all just so good
Actual anime of the year frontrunner atm. Did not think I would say that coming into it
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| idk how i feel about it, yes the ending was a bit anticlimatic. But not far fetched, Takopi used his last life force to pull some "happy magic ending" to make both Marina and Shizuka not be "alone" anymore, by connecting them both thru their shared experiences with our little guy Takopi, this has been pretty much hinted to happen in the intro of the show from the very begining lol. I'm glad Shizuka finally opened up and vented out all her frustrations out loud, she was a bad person and indeed wanted Marina getting killed but can you even blame her? her finally opening up really shows us how tormented she was, poor girl was neglected by both her parents, got relentlessly bullied by Marina for something OUTSIDE OF HER CONTROL and nobody helped her, Marina got her dog killed, constantly got told to kill herself and how much of an unwanted human being she was every day at school, Takopi was probably the first thing to even show her kindness in a good while. Takopi being conditioned by his culture and mentality did not get in the way of its character development, you could say he is annoying, but instead i think he is a cute inoccent guy who got corrupted among the way becoming a sad little guy who couldn't stop crying for how much suffering he had to endure and see along the way in his mission to spread happiness, at the end he managed to spread that happiness even if it was at the cost of its life. Takopi only interacted in the key stuff to avoid the worst scenarios, Marina still got abused by her mom leaving her with a life long scar. I would have liked them making Marina figure out or understand that indeed Shizuka isn't the reason her dad is cheating on her mom, but that they are both victims of neglectful parents (for both their dads and moms), tho i'm sure and i'm being charitable, those kind of comments she still says long after elementary school are kind of the usual bicker they have now that they are friends (be it by necesity or by mutual understanding, it doesn't matter), those words don't really hold the same weight anymore despite being the same ones. |
Reply to LeWatcher
@JoeChip
Crazy how you immediately get offended just because someone rates an anime different than you. Chill, it's not that deep. Your opinion isn't any better than mine, the same as mine isn't any better than yours. At least I don't go randomly attacking people over anime. Scrolling through someone's else's list just to find ammunition as if it means anything is incredibly childish (funny, because I got curious and went to see what you rate highly hoping to understand you better, only to find out you yourself keep your anime ratings private; I know you've seen more than five, especially if you're making fun of people who rate Babylon an 8, when you don't even have it on your list at all; did you even watch it lol?). Didn't you say in a different post you were 34 or something? Assuming you are the same guy I recall (I have a good memory, but not always perfect), I flat out don't believe you, not because I think you're lying, but because if you were telling the truth that would be really sad and immature. Getting upset enough to bother other people for liking "edgy" anime? So what? Are we not allowed to enjoy edgy media? What's your authority on the matter? Answer: None. This is an episode discussion board; talk about *why* it's edgy; *how* it's edgy; why that is a criticism? What makes it not work? You have an argument to make, but yiu refuse to elaborate. If you did somewhere else,, good for you,, but that begs the question of why you're here if you're not contributing to tye discussion and exclusively replying to others just to bully them. Go on, share with the class or go back to eating your glue, or whatever else elementary schoolers do.. it was one thing when you did this shit to me days ago; I'm a big boy, I can handle some person disagreeing with me on the internet; not going to change the fact I have a good life going on right now. But to do this shit to other people on multiple different posts? *That* pisses me off. Anyway, just wanted to call out how immature you are. Be nice. Have a good day. I'll respond if you want an actual mature conversation.
Side note, like genuine question, everything else aside: If you hate Takopi's Original Sin so much, then why are you even here? Wouldn't it be easier to just drop the series and move on? This is a discussion board, but you're not discussing anything, just making fun of people for no reason. It would be one thing if you were ranting about why you hated the series or your thoughts on why it's bad; or just your thoughts on it in general...but you haven't done that. You're only purpose here is seemingly to be a dick. Just genuinely curious your reasoning.
Crazy how you immediately get offended just because someone rates an anime different than you. Chill, it's not that deep. Your opinion isn't any better than mine, the same as mine isn't any better than yours. At least I don't go randomly attacking people over anime. Scrolling through someone's else's list just to find ammunition as if it means anything is incredibly childish (funny, because I got curious and went to see what you rate highly hoping to understand you better, only to find out you yourself keep your anime ratings private; I know you've seen more than five, especially if you're making fun of people who rate Babylon an 8, when you don't even have it on your list at all; did you even watch it lol?). Didn't you say in a different post you were 34 or something? Assuming you are the same guy I recall (I have a good memory, but not always perfect), I flat out don't believe you, not because I think you're lying, but because if you were telling the truth that would be really sad and immature. Getting upset enough to bother other people for liking "edgy" anime? So what? Are we not allowed to enjoy edgy media? What's your authority on the matter? Answer: None. This is an episode discussion board; talk about *why* it's edgy; *how* it's edgy; why that is a criticism? What makes it not work? You have an argument to make, but yiu refuse to elaborate. If you did somewhere else,, good for you,, but that begs the question of why you're here if you're not contributing to tye discussion and exclusively replying to others just to bully them. Go on, share with the class or go back to eating your glue, or whatever else elementary schoolers do.. it was one thing when you did this shit to me days ago; I'm a big boy, I can handle some person disagreeing with me on the internet; not going to change the fact I have a good life going on right now. But to do this shit to other people on multiple different posts? *That* pisses me off. Anyway, just wanted to call out how immature you are. Be nice. Have a good day. I'll respond if you want an actual mature conversation.
Side note, like genuine question, everything else aside: If you hate Takopi's Original Sin so much, then why are you even here? Wouldn't it be easier to just drop the series and move on? This is a discussion board, but you're not discussing anything, just making fun of people for no reason. It would be one thing if you were ranting about why you hated the series or your thoughts on why it's bad; or just your thoughts on it in general...but you haven't done that. You're only purpose here is seemingly to be a dick. Just genuinely curious your reasoning.
| @LeWatcher Funny thing is I didnt even rate/watch Takopi, so I will just drop these gifs as a response to your wall of text   |
Reply to dicecultmafia
alright, i dont wanna hear any "that ending was bad writing" so let me spit some words at your face
the camera sends people back in time, but since takopi doesnt come out of a time machine or a wormhole or anything, its really just sending memories back steins;gate style. what happens if the person whose memories are sent back is sacrificed to do it? those memories got dispersed through the lives of the people he messed with instead. where else are they gonna go? and it obviously wasnt a very clean implant of memories, they just kind of show up in places where takopi would have been if he was there. so it's all fuzzy for people.
so no, the writing isn't bad and this didn't really come from no where.
the camera sends people back in time, but since takopi doesnt come out of a time machine or a wormhole or anything, its really just sending memories back steins;gate style. what happens if the person whose memories are sent back is sacrificed to do it? those memories got dispersed through the lives of the people he messed with instead. where else are they gonna go? and it obviously wasnt a very clean implant of memories, they just kind of show up in places where takopi would have been if he was there. so it's all fuzzy for people.
so no, the writing isn't bad and this didn't really come from no where.
| @dicecultmafia That actually makes so much sense! More people need to see this. I still would complain that Takopii's Happy Powers came out of nowhere, but your theory definitely makes the ending more logical to me. |
| That was a good conclusion. I say good because, although I wasn't perfectly satisfied with it, I really don't see any better way to end the story while remaining consistent with its themes. It didn't undermine the rest of the story, and arguably added to it. It's wild to think that the only reason Takopii was able to save everyone was because Junya talked to Azuma, prompting Azuma to talk to Takopii and allowing Takopii to understand the importance of talking. Junya really is a genius and a good guy. By the start of this episode, Takopii already recognizes that he understands nothing; Azuma coming to talk with Takopii completes Takopii's character growth by making him realize that talking can change that. I like how the ending underscores again that none of their situations could have been be fixed. Shizuka's mom is still an escort and her dad still has another family. Marina's mom is still abusive and her dad is still absent. Azuma is still put under stress by his mother. However, Shizuka and Marina should be able to keep each other afloat, and Azuma has Junya to show him that grades aren't everything. Speaking of which, Azuma's mom stopped being able to work from stress... This episode, Azuma mentions that his mom fell ill from stress, and in the original Marina timeline, Azuma mentions that Junya takes over the clinic. Hopefully this will also get Azuma to not feel awful about himself all the time. Ending with Takopii influencing Shizuka, Marina, and Azuma through time works in terms of the themes presented. Although Takopii was unable to address the root causes of their problems, the one thing that he did well was provide each of them companionship, which made each of the three children happier in spite of the circumstances that surround them. He's garbage, catastrophically stupid and useless, but he always tried to talk with them. Upon seeing the sketch of Takopii, Shizuka and Marina end up crying while admitting that they don't know, just like how Takopii admitted that he knows nothing. Both of them realize that they are powerless against the circumstances that surround them, just like how Takopii was able to fix nothing. However, both of them also realize that they can talk to, understand, and therefore support each other, just like what Takopii tried to do for them. I guess a main idea is that sympathy is the only way to break the cycle of abuse, both physical and psychological, that the three have found themselves in. Shizuka's parents were neglectful because they only cared about issues that concerned themselves. Marina's mother always lash out because she kept wallowing in her own self-pity and internalized anger. Azuma's mother was psychologically abusive because she demanded perfection from herself and applied the same for everyone else. Similarly, Shizuka was manipulative and psychopathic because she only cared about issues that concerned herself. Marina always bullied Shizuka because she kept wallowing in her own self-pity and internalized anger. Even Azuma shows signs of being psychologically abusive, with him calling Takopii dumb all the time, because he demanded perfection from himself and applied the same for everyone else. All of these problems stem from not talking to others... To me, the ending was almost perfectly satisfying. My one complaint with it was Takopii's sacrifice. We could have gotten a few lines in an earlier episode about him being able to sacrifice himself, but we didn't, making the ending reliant on a deux ex machina. My other confusions about the timelines being seemingly merged together were answered by dicecultmafia, so I won't complain about that. dicecultmafia said: the camera sends people back in time, but since takopi doesnt come out of a time machine or a wormhole or anything, its really just sending memories back steins;gate style. what happens if the person whose memories are sent back is sacrificed to do it? those memories got dispersed through the lives of the people he messed with instead. where else are they gonna go? and it obviously wasnt a very clean implant of memories, they just kind of show up in places where takopi would have been if he was there. so it's all fuzzy for people. Overall, for me, Takopii no Genzai is a 9/10. It falls a bit short from being perfect in every way, but is probably one of the best adaptations to ever exist. The only reason why this isn't a 10/10 is because it didn't resonate with me deeply in some life-changing way, but that's really arbitrary. |
Reply to detarameMAL
@dicecultmafia That actually makes so much sense! More people need to see this.
I still would complain that Takopii's Happy Powers came out of nowhere, but your theory definitely makes the ending more logical to me.
I still would complain that Takopii's Happy Powers came out of nowhere, but your theory definitely makes the ending more logical to me.
| @detarameMAL no problem! i was hoping that would help at least someone be happier with the ending. |
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Reply to Mainnus
Years of neglect, abuse and naivety culminated in a sacrifice, there's no changing the past no matter how hard one tries. The suffering of a lifetime and the scars that wouldn't heal, no remedies to it only reconsoliation, to suffer the sin together instead of alone.
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| Expecting the worst, not disappointed at all. But something that is mostly worth a movie rather than 6 episodes. They didn't kill each other, they didn't touch Azuma-kun, and the girls ended up being frenemies. Nice enough. It took me 8 days to finally decide to end the story without getting depressed at all. Though still pissed that the ending showed the root of the problem, in the words of that freakin' alien octopus: "Family members that left you and feelings you can't ever get back. Your mama won't acknowledge you, and your papa isn't just your papa anymore."... Yeah, the true villains here are those damn parents. At least the doggo got to be old, which is a good thing. Shizuka wasn't entirely alone. Azuma can fight his bro (finally) and ignore Shizuka. And Marina can miss hitting Shizuka, because she already knows where she normally hits (which is funny, meaning they're that close they know each other, like your best bud, who you hold all of her/his dirty secrets and can't do anything to you know, whatever he/she says) Overall, perhaps raise it to an 8/10? I still think this could've been better as a movie, and the story wasn't exactly that mindblowing, except by using violence, suicide, murder, and all the awful things they could add to make the thing very impactful, which it was mostly well-received. But it is that kind of anime that is food for thought, not necessarily entertainment. Not even for recommending it. It's interesting to explore it, to talk about it with friends and family, but not the thing you would sit down and watch every week, waiting for the next episode (and again, a reason why being a movie could've made sense) |
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| the series as a whole is mediocre mess. the story is like any other anime but with poor execution. the first episode skewed my opinion highly to had some expectations but it failed to live up to it. for a short one its still felt like not conclusive with more questions than answers. this episode shows that past mistakes is erased by deux ex machina camera and the tako they dont explain how it integrate to the story but a plot convenience to engrave people some touchy and sad atmosphere and no build up and conclusion, its all in the air. overall its below average anime that has good artistic animation. 5/10 |
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| Great anime pi. I expected some episodes to be better (like Azuma's past). I think it should have been longer because some parts still felt incomplete. I really liked the ending it was neither too dark or too cheerful.9/10 |
AnimeEnjoyer2357Aug 10, 7:28 PM
| This is a modern masterpiece and an instant classic. Just an amazing commentary on human nature that you cannot find anywhere else in any Anime. Sadly this can't be the AOTY even if in my mind this should be an undisputed AOTY. It always goes to the run of the mill shounen shows. |
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Reply to IzanaSolos
My god, six episodes in and Takopii is still the same annoying mess he was at the start. He finally got his memories back last episode, and yet he's still going around saying things like, "DoN't YoU WaNna SeE ShIzUkA HaPPy?" Like seriously? Please for the lvoe of god, FUCKING STOP. At least Azuma showed some actual development. Meanwhile, Takopii hasn’t changed a bit, still clinging to this version of Shizuka that barely even feels like Shizuka anymore.
But ofc, since it’s the final episode and we have to force a happy ending, we somehow manage to change the mind of a literal murderer in under three minutes, because that totally makes sense. And then we reset the timeline, effectively making everything that happened completely pointless. What a joke. Oh, and somehow Marina and Shizuka magically remember Takopii after all that, just conveniently enough to give us a feel-good bonding moment at the end.
God, the show was already awful, but this ending honestly rivals disasters like Darling in the FranXX, truly. And the similarities are hard to ignore, both are carried almost entirely by their animation, with everything else falling apart. That said, I’m still genuinely curious to see where the studio goes from here. ENISHIYA is easily one of the most interesting new companies to emerge this decade. I just hope their next project actually lives up to their potential instead of being another frustrating waste of talent.
But ofc, since it’s the final episode and we have to force a happy ending, we somehow manage to change the mind of a literal murderer in under three minutes, because that totally makes sense. And then we reset the timeline, effectively making everything that happened completely pointless. What a joke. Oh, and somehow Marina and Shizuka magically remember Takopii after all that, just conveniently enough to give us a feel-good bonding moment at the end.
God, the show was already awful, but this ending honestly rivals disasters like Darling in the FranXX, truly. And the similarities are hard to ignore, both are carried almost entirely by their animation, with everything else falling apart. That said, I’m still genuinely curious to see where the studio goes from here. ENISHIYA is easily one of the most interesting new companies to emerge this decade. I just hope their next project actually lives up to their potential instead of being another frustrating waste of talent.
IzanaSolos said: we somehow manage to change the mind of a literal murderer in under three minutes, because that totally makes sense The only murders in the show are Takopi, because he killed Marina, and Marina, who killed her mother (when her mother was attempting to kill her) and drove Shizuka to suicide in multiple timelines. Shizuka did not hurt anyone, the two kids were found alive and well. |
| R.I.P Takopii (• 3 •) |
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| So Takopi just prevented deaths? That's not a bad solution from him. They still went through the other things but no death. I don't understand how they remember him though, especially Marina. |
| It was good. but i can't wait for the community to stop jacking it off like it's some masterpiece. |
JoeChip said: @LeWatcher Funny thing is I didnt even rate/watch Takopi, so I will just drop these gifs as a response to your wall of text You're still an asshole for making fun of people for not having the same opinions as you. You not responding like the adult you claim to be just proves me right. Me being pissed at you for being rude to others is actually a natural response for anyone with empathy by the way. |
| Retconnection to the power of friendship. Damn, the idea is so popular... This anime has a very important message about dealing with pain. But you can't really show it with a pink alien doing weird things (and killing Marina by the way, but well, not really). I'm disappointed because of the hype, so I'm glad that I finished, it was already a pain to see after the first two episodes. But I admit the animation is always great and the message is strong. So I'll give a 6/10 and I'll move on from this anime and it's stupid ending. |
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