| Years ago (At least four years, since the thread was removed in 2020, but I don't remember when exactly I made it), I made a (Now removed) thread where I copy-pasted an "anime has fallen" forum post from 1995. I did that in a way to mock what I saw as a "general negativity" in the community, usually riddled with misinformation, distorted facts, talking about a "decline in anime" while praising a cherry-picked golden age that never existed before. The thing is: I likely wouldn't make this thread nowadays because, at least on MAL, I simply no longer see such negativity. What causes such change in mentality? (Original title: "TIME FOR ANIME TO GROW UP!!!")  |
| I feel anime are more critically viewed now than ever. I would say the overall consensus to anime is more positive outside of ecchi and mecha which we get less of each year. Series are getting toned down. This season Winter 2025 is a bit poorer than usual. |
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| It's hard to be optimistic when the number of generic isekai/fantasy seem to keep increasing every season. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
thewiru said: I likely wouldn't make this thread nowadays because, at least on MAL, I simply no longer see such negativity. lol, seems like you need new glasses. |
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thewiru said:
I likely wouldn't make this thread nowadays because, at least on MAL, I simply no longer see such negativity.
I likely wouldn't make this thread nowadays because, at least on MAL, I simply no longer see such negativity.
lol, seems like you need new glasses.
| @Zarutaku Care to elucidate me? ............. |
| I dislike following the repeating trope of cycle of generations. The most common "Those new generations are so bad, back in our days" it is repeated at least since Ancient Greek, just count on your own how many generations has been roasted consecutively till today. Now to the screen post: 1st paragraph is the most stereotype thinking about anime, a lot and I mean a lot of people thought that when I said that I watch anime, after all anime ain't a big deal in Poland, especially when I started watching it. Although that trend about school girls was a thing as I remember watching some random shorts/movies/ovas from 80-90s and it wasn't that dominant but just the fact that I remember that means that it was repetitive enough. But that's the same as saying in nowadays complaining about the amount of isekais. Just search for a proper title, instead of looking at an entry you won't even watch. If you're searching for new anime to watch by using something else than seasonal charts than it is already enough to find something interesting. |
| I think the quality of the average anime has risen quite a bit in the back end of the 2010s, seriously go watch a random show from the 90s and one from the last 5 years and it's like night and day, however the top end quality has fallen off slightly compared to powerhouse years like 2011. While the highs are a bit rarer I would say I'm still very optimistic for the future of anime, it's still getting better in general (although I hope we ditch the herbivore male romcom trend sooner rather than later) |
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I think the quality of the average anime has risen quite a bit in the back end of the 2010s, seriously go watch a random show from the 90s and one from the last 5 years and it's like night and day, however the top end quality has fallen off slightly compared to powerhouse years like 2011. While the highs are a bit rarer I would say I'm still very optimistic for the future of anime, it's still getting better in general (although I hope we ditch the herbivore male romcom trend sooner rather than later)
| @Cynthesia Yeah I probably would agree, personally I prefer anime from the 80s and 2000s, more. Still I do think we get a lot of consistent shows these days, though I am still waiting on a really impactful work from the 2020s. Still there are some interesting works on the horizon so we will see. |
| I'm certaintly really optimistic about anime - but I'm pretty sure that negativity is still as strong as ever XD |
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| @Zarutaku Let's see:
Literally only the first one falls into that category. My point still stands. |
| People are more optimistic because we are currently in that anime golden age. More shows then ever, more quality then ever, more fans then ever. Animes boom over like the last half a decade has been incredible. I think the pandemic was in a weird way, good for the anime indsutry - just people having more free time to enjoy anime and with how accesible it is on streaming platforms its no wonder its popularity rose so much. I remember it being weird to like anime. Now when I go to the gym I've seen dudes wearing One Piece tank tops. Anime has never been more socially acceptable, praised and loved by people than it is right now. From how i see it, how could you not be optimistic - literally could not be a better time than now to enjoy anime. |
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@Zarutaku
Let's see:
Literally only the first one falls into that category.
My point still stands.
Let's see:
- Complaint about a specific genre.
- Not a negative post.
- Troll post
- Not a negative post, actually talking about problems with the industry, and not the media itself.
- Troll post
- Troll post
- Not a negative post
- Not a negative post
- Not a negative post, actually talking about problems with the industry, and not the media itself.
- Troll post
Literally only the first one falls into that category.
My point still stands.
| You could read the replies to see some negative posts, not necessarily in these random examples, bashing newer anime is still commonly done here. thewiru said: As if problems in the industry didn't negatively affect the media.actually talking about problems with the industry, and not the media itself. |
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You could read the replies to see some negative posts, not necessarily in these random examples, bashing newer anime is still commonly done here.
thewiru said:
actually talking about problems with the industry, and not the media itself.
As if problems in the industry didn't negatively affect the media.actually talking about problems with the industry, and not the media itself.
| @Zarutaku Do you REALLY believe that the text in the screencap and those threads are of the same nature? Really? |
| I'd say so,but that also depends on what you are looking for.Anime like Texhnolyze,Ergo Proxy,Lain doesn't exist anymore,especially in story-telling & atmosphere.Mecha is also pretty much all but dead.Now that I've gotten the doom out of me on to the positive (in my eyes) -Pacing (or rather how episodes unfold,not counting suspense anime,is a lot faster than if you watched something from the 90s to 2010s) -Humour (Now that might just be me but it seems more reactive and more on the mark) -Trigger existing and providing bangers -Art in general (Don't get me wrong old anime have a style of their own that has it's own charm,but having seen more post-2016 I do appreciate the artwork on both landscape & characters a lot more) -More to choose from (ik this is a revolving door but it is more likely to find something to enjoy when you have 40+ series opposed to say 10-12 per season,most of 40+ eps) And if there is a drought there is still a plethora of older series,ovas,onas & movies to watch ) |
| Can I Still Go To Heaven If I Kill Myself? |
| "Are we more optimistic about anime nowadays?" No, but I wasn't pessimistic in the first place...just people tend to exaggerate the good and the bad tendencies. My way is just waiting to see what the anime gatcha will bring to us and when that's not enough there are always tons of unexplored retro titles, donghua (which now has the new standard of multiepisode 3D CGI) and the growing catalogue of actually good game adaptations/interpretations like Arcane, the Warhammer 40K projects ect. |
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@Zarutaku
Do you REALLY believe that the text in the screencap and those threads are of the same nature? Really?
Do you REALLY believe that the text in the screencap and those threads are of the same nature? Really?
| @thewiru I already said not necessarily in these random examples, but if you're so hung up on something more comparable: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2160039 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2174896 |
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| I don't bother with anime. So there is nothing to be optimistic nor pessimistic about TBH. |
| Here is my Pixiv account of my hentai drawings..... https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/104739065 Here is my blog.... https://theendofindustrialcivilization.blogspot.com/?m=1 |
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@thewiru I already said not necessarily in these random examples, but if you're so hung up on something more comparable:
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2160039
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2174896
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2160039
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2174896
| @Zarutaku The fact that you have to take a post from five months ago and another from eight months ago just further proves my point. |
| Who cares? You do stupid Threads like this all the time. Some of them get removed. Accept that. Oh, wait. That would mean nobody would talk to you, ever.... That's not something you like. So I guess you can also just go repost stuff you did years ago and was deemed uninteresting and not encouraging discussion by the mods, like a looney As far as Im concerned they should remove a whole lot more of your selfimportant crap that is flooding the Forums^^ Shut up! |
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@Zarutaku
The fact that you have to take a post from five months ago and another from eight months ago just further proves my point.
The fact that you have to take a post from five months ago and another from eight months ago just further proves my point.
| @thewiru That only proves that I'm too lazy to waste more time searching for silly topics and posts that support what I've already seen many times. |
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Who cares? You do stupid Threads like this all the time. Some of them get removed. Accept that.
Oh, wait. That would mean nobody would talk to you, ever.... That's not something you like. So I guess you can also just go repost stuff you did years ago and was deemed uninteresting and not encouraging discussion by the mods, like a looney
As far as Im concerned they should remove a whole lot more of your selfimportant crap that is flooding the Forums^^
Shut up!
Oh, wait. That would mean nobody would talk to you, ever.... That's not something you like. So I guess you can also just go repost stuff you did years ago and was deemed uninteresting and not encouraging discussion by the mods, like a looney
As far as Im concerned they should remove a whole lot more of your selfimportant crap that is flooding the Forums^^
Shut up!
| @Merve2Love I like listening to music and eating cookies. |
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I'm confident anime is going to stop pandering to Hollywood fans, yes. That should result in better shows in the future.
| @KookieKutter I wanna listen to your idea of how the anime would stop pandering to Hollywood fans. I have seen this statement countless of times without anything mentioned about WHAT is the anime doing to pander the Hollywood fans. |
 -Tohka is better than Kurumi. You can't change my mind. |
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@KookieKutter I wanna listen to your idea of how the anime would stop pandering to Hollywood fans. I have seen this statement countless of times without anything mentioned about WHAT is the anime doing to pander the Hollywood fans.
| @DinoNo1 Bah, what kind of question is that? We had multiple seasons of Enen no Shouboutai and also had Megumi no Daigo: Kyuukoku no Orange quite recently. Pure, unadulterated firefighter fanservice. |
Yes, it's getting better all the time |
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