| elitism in gaming or anime or any fandom is utterly just people with 2 brain cells that think way to highly of them self. I just ignore does people I don´t want end up as IQ fish stick as they are. And if you ignore idiots hard enough they will go away or Darwin will solve it. |
| anime elitism is dumb and ridicule, to think you are smart because of the series you watch and also to degrade what is popular is so stupid |
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| There are no elitists in anime. I am correct about that. |
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| Its fine but just dont trashing other tastes. I believe my anime taste superiority and you should proud too about your own taste, don't let other jugde you |
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Reply to SwordBreaker36
elitism in gaming or anime or any fandom is utterly just people with 2 brain cells that think way to highly of them self. I just ignore does people I don´t want end up as IQ fish stick as they are. And if you ignore idiots hard enough they will go away or Darwin will solve it.
| @SwordBreaker36 That's an insult to the humble fish stick. |
| its stupid, imagine unironically thinking that ur superior cuz uve seen more shows lmao |
Reply to wahwahworld
its stupid, imagine unironically thinking that ur superior cuz uve seen more shows lmao
| @goodbyesekai i dont even keep a record of the anime shows that I watch tbh... |
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| Dumb and innecesary? yeah, but ironically harmless. |
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| Elitism is bullshet (mostly the kind who bullies people for having an opinion) |
| I thought the answer was obvious, I view anime elitism by using a web browser. |
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| Look, it's an absolute fact that for example jazz fans are on average more intelligent than pop fans. There's no use getting butt hurt about it. |
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| I would rather deal with elitists than deal with annoying tourists who want anime to change to suit their standard. |
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| It's silly. But, oh, that's people. Who cares. It's only really important to them. So why not let them enjoy it? I don't mind. There's no harm in letting some random guy on the internet bath in his own sense of superiority. It's no biggie, all in all. Can be annoying. Sure. Just don't bother talking to them. |
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| Anime elitism fell off around 2011-2012, anime just got too mainstream that the elitists left because they couldn't gate keep it any longer lol |
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| I used to be an anime elitist when I was a teenager. I felt so smart watching 2 hour video essays on YouTube about Evangelion and other anime people consider elitist, so to speak. When I look back at myself back then, I only feel cringe and embarrassment. Judging someone because they like a popular shounen or something is completely ridiculous. |
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I would rather deal with elitists than deal with annoying tourists who want anime to change to suit their standard.
| @DreamWindow Many elitists are tourists too, and many of them are the kinds that want anime to change to suit their standard. For example, many elitists love 90s anime, and want anime to go back to the 90s, because they claim it has no fanservice, despite having a lot of it. Highbrow elitists despise anything fun, and want to make everybody as miserable as they are, so they of course want to ban sex and porn. This is not related to anime, but elitist gamers are also annoying. They only care about "story" and "graphics", and don't care about a video game's actual gameplay. Elitists will bash Mario for repeating its story, and praise every boring turn-based RPG like crazy, no matter how terrible the gameplay is, or if the story is that of a below average battle shonen (which RPG stories often are). There are many kinds of tourists. Everybody should remember that. And to answer OP's question, I think elitism is terrible, and can't stand their boring highbrow garbage. |
Reply to ForgotEyeWasHere
@DreamWindow Many elitists are tourists too, and many of them are the kinds that want anime to change to suit their standard. For example, many elitists love 90s anime, and want anime to go back to the 90s, because they claim it has no fanservice, despite having a lot of it. Highbrow elitists despise anything fun, and want to make everybody as miserable as they are, so they of course want to ban sex and porn.
This is not related to anime, but elitist gamers are also annoying. They only care about "story" and "graphics", and don't care about a video game's actual gameplay. Elitists will bash Mario for repeating its story, and praise every boring turn-based RPG like crazy, no matter how terrible the gameplay is, or if the story is that of a below average battle shonen (which RPG stories often are).
There are many kinds of tourists. Everybody should remember that.
And to answer OP's question, I think elitism is terrible, and can't stand their boring highbrow garbage.
This is not related to anime, but elitist gamers are also annoying. They only care about "story" and "graphics", and don't care about a video game's actual gameplay. Elitists will bash Mario for repeating its story, and praise every boring turn-based RPG like crazy, no matter how terrible the gameplay is, or if the story is that of a below average battle shonen (which RPG stories often are).
There are many kinds of tourists. Everybody should remember that.
And to answer OP's question, I think elitism is terrible, and can't stand their boring highbrow garbage.
| Elitism exist everywhere and in any fandom @ForgotEyeWasHere. I mean I encountered elitism in K-pop fandom, and I've seen elitism in Star Trek fandom. Hell, I'm a science nerd/junkie and academia (including science) has a lot of elitism too, it can evolve into racism and also being bigoted toward a person's race, or religion or even attacking the person's family. Yeah, it can get really really nasty in the world of academia. I mean, no matter what fandom (or even academia) you're in, there's going to be elitists/elitism in there. It comes with the territory of being part of the fandom. So yes, there are fan tourism in almost every fandom, that is to be expected and that does come with the territory of being a fan after all. So my word, when you're in a fandom, expect elitists and tourists in there. CC:@DreamWindow |
| Elitism is prolly the stupidest thing ever when it comes to anime. On god nobody cares how u view what other people like. If u care so much then somethings wrong with u it's like people can't like what they like without a bum telling u your taste is trash. Like bro we aint watching u we watch it for our own enjoyment. Criticizing someone else's differing opinion on a show is wild and corny to me go find something productive to do. |
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| i think its great, keeps things from getting stale and watered down like most post-modern bs...and gate-keeping...gate keeping is also important, i think the only ones who get offended by elitists are those leftie gen-z beta-male types who have cringe all over their profile & people who are cluless to the fact they watch trash and others have standards & experience. BANG!!! checkmate. |
| I am with mdo7 on this one; in every kind of hobby you part take in there will be some "elitists" in the community. Now the thing with these elitists is they will never openly present themselves as such. What they will do is gate-keep in some sort of fashion.This usually presents itself by saying only true (insert hobby) would do this. In anime what I often saw was people saying such things as: "only true anime fans would watch anime in subs or even raw. The casuals will only watch dub etc." One of my other hobbies is running and in the running community it is often looked down on to run on a treadmill so in this instance the saying would be: "only real runners run outside and the casuals run 20 minutes on the treadmill etc etc. It is the same elitist behaviour but taken somewhere else. So the question becomes why do people do it? I personally think it is done because some people have ego's that are so fragile that to feel better they need to put people down so as to seem better than others. It is a way of trying to gain value and respect from the community (at the expense of others). It is human nature, at least for some and is a pattern you will see in all walks of life from anime and God forbid, the workplace and school. The hallmarks though is someone in a community trying to cultivate the "them and us" mentality and to do this qualifiers are added to be in the "in group". If you see anyone engaging in that kind of behaviour they are behaving like an elitist and should be seen as such. Quite often though it goes unnoticed and people may even join in as they want to look cool so people look the other way or even join in as they don't want to be seen as being part of the "out group". |
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@Zamus_Edits Ok then. Weird take for someone who started One Piece, a series known for females with huge chests. Guess that's fine though, since it's not labeled an "ecchi". I suppose that was very "triggered" of me to bring that up....
| @FanofAction The reason why it isn't labeled ecchi cause every episode doesn't have fanservice, every episode of most ecchi do have big tiddies slapping againt the camera ultra max upd physics on boob jiggle, or if its not women with big chest, then its little girls that look like they are 10 who slip and fall into banana yogurt that makes it look like they have sperm all over their face, this isn't comparable. "a series known for females with huge chest" That is not what one piece is known lmfao, most idiotic statement made in 2024, be more specific and say "it has elements in the show that consist of women with big chest" which is true, but one piece always had insane body proportions, also funny thing is, the most simped on characters in one piece that are women are the least sexual the show, which in your favorite ecchi shes prob portrayed as a whore and acts like one. also according to your logic berserk is a series known for rape. |
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Reply to Zamus_Edits
@FanofAction The reason why it isn't labeled ecchi cause every episode doesn't have fanservice, every episode of most ecchi do have big tiddies slapping againt the camera ultra max upd physics on boob jiggle, or if its not women with big chest, then its little girls that look like they are 10 who slip and fall into banana yogurt that makes it look like they have sperm all over their face, this isn't comparable.
"a series known for females with huge chest"
That is not what one piece is known lmfao, most idiotic statement made in 2024, be more specific and say "it has elements in the show that consist of women with big chest" which is true, but one piece always had insane body proportions, also funny thing is, the most simped on characters in one piece that are women are the least sexual the show, which in your favorite ecchi shes prob portrayed as a whore and acts like one.
also according to your logic
berserk is a series known for rape.
"a series known for females with huge chest"
That is not what one piece is known lmfao, most idiotic statement made in 2024, be more specific and say "it has elements in the show that consist of women with big chest" which is true, but one piece always had insane body proportions, also funny thing is, the most simped on characters in one piece that are women are the least sexual the show, which in your favorite ecchi shes prob portrayed as a whore and acts like one.
also according to your logic
berserk is a series known for rape.
| @Zamus_Edits My "most idiotic statement of 2024" got you to respond though, so I gotta wonder who really comes out looking like an idiot here... |
Reply to FanofAction
@Zamus_Edits My "most idiotic statement of 2024" got you to respond though, so I gotta wonder who really comes out looking like an idiot here...
| @FanofAction no deflects, no counter, check my mirrors not a jacker in sight. |
Reply to Zamus_Edits
@FanofAction no deflects, no counter, check my mirrors not a jacker in sight.
| @Zamus_Edits Cool. I'm gunna leave you to continue your selective hatred of anime tiddies and the weird amount of energy you seem to put into disliking ecchi fans now. |
Reply to ForgotEyeWasHere
@DreamWindow Many elitists are tourists too, and many of them are the kinds that want anime to change to suit their standard. For example, many elitists love 90s anime, and want anime to go back to the 90s, because they claim it has no fanservice, despite having a lot of it. Highbrow elitists despise anything fun, and want to make everybody as miserable as they are, so they of course want to ban sex and porn.
This is not related to anime, but elitist gamers are also annoying. They only care about "story" and "graphics", and don't care about a video game's actual gameplay. Elitists will bash Mario for repeating its story, and praise every boring turn-based RPG like crazy, no matter how terrible the gameplay is, or if the story is that of a below average battle shonen (which RPG stories often are).
There are many kinds of tourists. Everybody should remember that.
And to answer OP's question, I think elitism is terrible, and can't stand their boring highbrow garbage.
This is not related to anime, but elitist gamers are also annoying. They only care about "story" and "graphics", and don't care about a video game's actual gameplay. Elitists will bash Mario for repeating its story, and praise every boring turn-based RPG like crazy, no matter how terrible the gameplay is, or if the story is that of a below average battle shonen (which RPG stories often are).
There are many kinds of tourists. Everybody should remember that.
And to answer OP's question, I think elitism is terrible, and can't stand their boring highbrow garbage.
| @ForgotEyeWasHere A lot of this is super specific, and not entirely accurate... I've never seen an elitist want to ban pron. There is also nothing wrong with preferring the look of older anime. That doesn't make them a tourist, especially if they've been around since the 90s, they probably have more skin in the game than most people. pretty much what @mdo7 said, there will always be elitists. But I'd rather that than posers and tourists. In which case I was specifically pointing to newer people who latch onto the fanbase because it's trendy, and expect it to appeal to their sensibilities, rather than accepting the cultural difference. |
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| I don't care about these anime "elitist". I don't know why people want to become "elitist" in one medium of telling stories. |
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DreamWindow said: pretty much what @mdo7 said, there will always be elitists. But I'd rather that than posers and tourists. In which case I was specifically pointing to newer people who latch onto the fanbase because it's trendy, and expect it to appeal to their sensibilities, rather than accepting the cultural difference. Beside elitists, you mentioned posers and tourists, I also want to point out to recent newbies in the fandom that are often ignorant and too brand new to the fandom with not enough knowledge nor respect to the culture. I mean I've seen this in K-pop fandom a lot (reminder: beside being in the anime/manga fandom for 17 years, I was in the K-pop/hallyu fandom for 10 years), I mean when BTS and Blackpink became the mainstream household name in the US, we got a lot of newbie K-pop fans just showing off ignorance and no respect to the fandom, nor showing any respect to the previous gen idol group (ie: Girls Generation/SNSD, Super Junior, SHINee, EXO, etc...), I've seen the same thing in anime/manga fandom where newbie fans just downright attack an anime like an elitists would. You know what also annoy me as a retro anime and retro-gamer fan? lack of respect for retro/old-school stuff in the fandom. I've seen this a lot in anime/manga fandom, and also in K-pop fandom too. So yes, this is the territory of being in a fandom whether it's K-pop or anime/manga. |
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DreamWindow said:
pretty much what @mdo7 said, there will always be elitists. But I'd rather that than posers and tourists. In which case I was specifically pointing to newer people who latch onto the fanbase because it's trendy, and expect it to appeal to their sensibilities, rather than accepting the cultural difference.
pretty much what @mdo7 said, there will always be elitists. But I'd rather that than posers and tourists. In which case I was specifically pointing to newer people who latch onto the fanbase because it's trendy, and expect it to appeal to their sensibilities, rather than accepting the cultural difference.
Beside elitists, you mentioned posers and tourists, I also want to point out to recent newbies in the fandom that are often ignorant and too brand new to the fandom with not enough knowledge nor respect to the culture. I mean I've seen this in K-pop fandom a lot (reminder: beside being in the anime/manga fandom for 17 years, I was in the K-pop/hallyu fandom for 10 years), I mean when BTS and Blackpink became the mainstream household name in the US, we got a lot of newbie K-pop fans just showing off ignorance and no respect to the fandom, nor showing any respect to the previous gen idol group (ie: Girls Generation/SNSD, Super Junior, SHINee, EXO, etc...), I've seen the same thing in anime/manga fandom where newbie fans just downright attack an anime like an elitists would.
You know what also annoy me as a retro anime and retro-gamer fan? lack of respect for retro/old-school stuff in the fandom. I've seen this a lot in anime/manga fandom, and also in K-pop fandom too. So yes, this is the territory of being in a fandom whether it's K-pop or anime/manga.
| @mdo7 I have observed from a distance, and that breed of K-pop fan scares the hell out of me. I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole lol. Good to know even old guard K-pop fans dislike them. But yeah you're definitely right. It seems to happen whenever something gets popular, sadly. |
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@mdo7
I have observed from a distance, and that breed of K-pop fan scares the hell out of me. I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole lol. Good to know even old guard K-pop fans dislike them.
But yeah you're definitely right. It seems to happen whenever something gets popular, sadly.
I have observed from a distance, and that breed of K-pop fan scares the hell out of me. I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole lol. Good to know even old guard K-pop fans dislike them.
But yeah you're definitely right. It seems to happen whenever something gets popular, sadly.
DreamWindow said: But yeah you're definitely right. It seems to happen whenever something gets popular, sadly. True, but even before it became popular and mainstream, there were plenty of jerk/douchebag fans & I know this because of my experience being in the K-pop fandom. Even before K-pop fandom became expanded, the J-pop elitists fandom back in 2009/2010 didn't take too lightly of K-pop being able to win many people heart because well in the elitist demographic of J-pop, they think Japanese idols are superior to Koreans (which we now know today is not true given 3 former AKB48 have crossover to K-pop) DreamWindow said: Good to know even old guard K-pop fans dislike them. Well, there's more of us then them. But it's hard to say given the internet and I can't give an accurate data. |
Reply to Zamus_Edits
@FanofAction no deflects, no counter, check my mirrors not a jacker in sight.
| @Zamus_Edits Bold claim to bring up ecchi and assume you've avoided the attention of jacking experts |
Reply to Kenzolo-folk
Anime elitism is dumb, imagine having superiority over something as degenerate as anime 😭
| @Kenzolo-folk See, but part of the fun is competing with other anime fans to see who is the most degenerate |
| Why would anyone even wanna be an anime elitist to begin with? I don't think anyone wants to be such an elitist ;p...I like causally watching it. I don't take anime too seriously. I enjoy watching anime. But I don't take it extremely seriously. |
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Honestly, does it actually matter?
We're all in the same boat of being watchers of anime, so its not like they really have much to be proud of.
Like, if you pride yourself on the fact that you spend more time sitting on your ass than you do actually having a life, you probably need to see a therapist.
We're all in the same boat of being watchers of anime, so its not like they really have much to be proud of.
Like, if you pride yourself on the fact that you spend more time sitting on your ass than you do actually having a life, you probably need to see a therapist.
| @JaaShooUhh coming from a 30+ year old man who has no game no life in his favs...i think its u who needs to see a therapist i mean come on man thats really bottom of the barrel. |
| I don't think elitism is a problem at all. People taking deep offense to an online discussion or otherwise feeling put off from art because of another's intense feelings toward it is the core issue. You're playing a social game at that point; the semantics of how or why something ought to be enjoyed is a lot less important than you just appreciating the thing itself. This is also why gatekeeping is very natural. Niche interests are, in fact, niche! It should not be at all surprising that a particular aesthetic, character, franchise, etc. cultivates a very passionate audience. Anyone who thinks they're doing anything worthwhile or believe themselves to be a positive influence by combatting these things are silly. Just as you are entitled to your dismissal and lack of appreciation for a certain something, I'm equally allowed my own opinions on the opposite end of things. People holding their beliefs close to the chest in this way, I believe, is also great for general discussion about these sort of things. |
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@JaaShooUhh coming from a 30+ year old man who has no game no life in his favs...i think its u who needs to see a therapist
i mean come on man thats really bottom of the barrel.
i mean come on man thats really bottom of the barrel.
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Reply to PlasticForever
I don't think elitism is a problem at all.
People taking deep offense to an online discussion or otherwise feeling put off from art because of another's intense feelings toward it is the core issue. You're playing a social game at that point; the semantics of how or why something ought to be enjoyed is a lot less important than you just appreciating the thing itself. This is also why gatekeeping is very natural. Niche interests are, in fact, niche! It should not be at all surprising that a particular aesthetic, character, franchise, etc. cultivates a very passionate audience.
Anyone who thinks they're doing anything worthwhile or believe themselves to be a positive influence by combatting these things are silly. Just as you are entitled to your dismissal and lack of appreciation for a certain something, I'm equally allowed my own opinions on the opposite end of things. People holding their beliefs close to the chest in this way, I believe, is also great for general discussion about these sort of things.
People taking deep offense to an online discussion or otherwise feeling put off from art because of another's intense feelings toward it is the core issue. You're playing a social game at that point; the semantics of how or why something ought to be enjoyed is a lot less important than you just appreciating the thing itself. This is also why gatekeeping is very natural. Niche interests are, in fact, niche! It should not be at all surprising that a particular aesthetic, character, franchise, etc. cultivates a very passionate audience.
Anyone who thinks they're doing anything worthwhile or believe themselves to be a positive influence by combatting these things are silly. Just as you are entitled to your dismissal and lack of appreciation for a certain something, I'm equally allowed my own opinions on the opposite end of things. People holding their beliefs close to the chest in this way, I believe, is also great for general discussion about these sort of things.
PlasticRobot said: There's like one MAL regular that seems to want everyone to think that 80s mecha anime are the best, but most of these deeply insecure "elitists" that I've seen are people who attach their personal identity to a work, and therefore feel offended whenever someone else comes in with different perspective. They'd say something like "Re:Zero/Jujutsu Kaisen/One Piece saved my life, you just don't get it!"People taking deep offense to an online discussion or otherwise feeling put off from art because of another's intense feelings toward it is the core issue. A lot of people on this thread talk about Serial Experiments Lain, and it's probably true that a lot of people don't get that show because it's slow and deliberately confusing, but when's the last time you've ever seen anyone talk about that 20+ year old show? It's just a cliche at this point. People who complain about SEL elitists are probably the same people who complain about trans athletes because it's a meme, even though they've never met one in their lives. |
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| I just think elitists are a very silly bunch, and should best be ignored. Imagine caring that much about how other people choose to engage with entertainment media, as if that personally affects your life in any capacity. And these goofballs delude themselves into believing that their "gatekeeping" is actually doing something. Y'all really think "tourists" and "normies" are gonna stop watching or being fans of a show just because you wrote mean things to them in a comment section? Lmao, go outside. |
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