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| Rishie's former boss and mentor huh? This guy seemed way too relaxed but no doubt has a reputation and is intelligent given what he's accomplished for his Aria Company. He also seems somewhat arrogant during negotation. Episode also detailed more of Rishie's past, a recurring trend at this point. Anyways, I do hope he gets a more recurring role in the show, as like he knows ways around the merchanting business. |
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| Ugh, this Kaine guy is really getting on my nerves. Just do your thing and get Rishe the wedding stuff. Kaine Tully, representing the Aria Trading Company, arrived for a scheduled business meeting with Rishe, her mentor in the intricate world of commerce. Rishe had entrusted him with the task of organizing goods for an upcoming marriage ceremony. However, to her dismay, he conveyed, "There is not a single thing I can sell you," leading to the abrupt cancellation of the meeting. Throughout history, the Company's sales channels had proven to be a potent instrument in preventing conflicts. Determined to reignite the business discussion, Rishe resolved to craft a strategic plan. Honestly, if I had someone like Kaine planning my wedding, I'd probably find someone else. They're likely getting paid a good amount for this gig, and they're not even doing the job properly. It's kinda cool to see how much Rishe and Arnold have grown together. Arnold's not just turning into a husband-to-be; he's becoming a more rounded person. I'm really curious about what Theodore has in mind to pull on Rishe. |
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| Good episode.The business negotiations are tough and Rishe is working hard to get it done successfully. Arnold's brother is mysterious character.What plans he has is interesting to speculate. Also Arnold seems to be getting more diplomatic due to Rishe's influence.Seems like both people can help each other. |
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| Another episode that shows that Arnold really cares about his people, make you wonder more how it went so bad in the previous lives. The letter being from Theodore was obvious, wonder what he's planning because he seems fishy. |
| So I'm guessing that was the younger brother under the balcony last episode. And this immideately made me think that maybe they look identical and the one that instigated the war was actually the younger brother. ...but then he showed up right after, and yeah, that wasn't him lol (judging by the looks). The person at 15:46 was under the balcony probably. What was she trying to convey with the fist lol? Aahhh I love it when last scenes in the episode transition to the ED in anime. Looking forward to the next one. Btw both in the OP and ED there is imagery of Rishe disappearing and turning into flower petals in Arnold's hand. I wonder what that means... |
EmbientJan 28, 2024 7:52 AM
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| Quite the high stakes meeting to start with. Rishe's self sufficient nature is what makes her stand out from the other nobles. That and her ability to think outside of the box as well by drawing upon her lifetimes. Gardening, research and the wedding man Rishe sure has tons on her plate. The younger bro was a bit different to how i imagined him to be. But what was even more surprising was the prince's rotation of the military to a defensive posture. Overall a curious ep that while featuring a pair of excellent character intros for this line also served well to show once more how different Arnold is here. Curious whether Theodore is hiding his true self and what really is behind that smile of his. |
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So I'm guessing that was the younger brother under the balcony last episode. And this immideately made me think that maybe they look identical and the one that instigated the war was actually the younger brother.
...but then he showed up right after, and yeah, that wasn't him lol (judging by the looks). The person at 15:46 was under the balcony probably.
What was she trying to convey with the fist lol?
Aahhh I love it when last scenes in the episode transition to the ED in anime. Looking forward to the next one.
Btw both in the OP and ED there is imagery of Rishe disappearing and turning into flower petals in Arnold's hand. I wonder what that means...
...but then he showed up right after, and yeah, that wasn't him lol (judging by the looks). The person at 15:46 was under the balcony probably.
What was she trying to convey with the fist lol?
Aahhh I love it when last scenes in the episode transition to the ED in anime. Looking forward to the next one.
Btw both in the OP and ED there is imagery of Rishe disappearing and turning into flower petals in Arnold's hand. I wonder what that means...
Embient said: What was she trying to convey with the fist lol? Oh god, they completely messed up with adapting that scene lmao! So Rishe found herself accidently coming across Arnold and Earl Marshall talking. She doesn't hear the whole thing but from the tone she can tell it's an argument and decides to show Arnold her support when he looked her way. Edit:  Link to the picture from the manga if it's not working in the post. |
Shimai_niJan 28, 2024 8:47 AM
| Noir… It is the name of an ancient fate. Two sisters who watch anime. The peace of the newly born, their black hands protect. |
| I am very worried that this show will gift the younger brother with disproportionate abilities to fuck everything up just so there will be tension. This is my least favourite type of antagonist, seemingly always in the right place to to do the most damage with the least amount of effort and yet never fully distrusted. I hope the show doesn't go that route, but Rishe just complying with the letter despite being told not to entertain him is a troubling start. |
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| Oh boy, with this pace we can expect the whole volume 1 of the novel adapted in 2, max 3 episodes. Not sure if it's a good thing or not but volume 2 certainly is more dynamic so it might interest people for the manga and the novel more. I am glad they focused properly on the scene with Tully but to say that the conversation with Theodore was cut short would be an understatement lol. Still, they will do plenty of talking in the next episode and I really hope they adapt the whole dialog in the chapel scene because it's REALLY important for the rest of the story. The scenery was absolutely beautiful. The villa, the stairs, the library, the slums, the tavern. All scenes were very detailed to the point I was impressed because I certainly didn't expect it. They absolutely messed up the scene where she is showing her fist though lol. If anyone is interested the explanation is here. Novel and manga readers, are you excited for the next episode?? We finally get to hear the famous quote! |
| Noir… It is the name of an ancient fate. Two sisters who watch anime. The peace of the newly born, their black hands protect. |
| i keed enjoying it it's getting more and more interesting... |
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| Kaine ended up being a tougher nut to crack than Rishe thought, this made things more interesting tho which I liked, it was also funny how it took Rishe a bit to realize she was being invited by Kaine after the initial negotiations fell through, I thought it was kinda obvious but at least she figured it out eventually lol. And despite the first failed attempt Rishe did end up settling things with Kaine, and it seemed like all was good until Arnold caught her coming back after she snuck out. He got her all up against the wall but ended up just messing with her, that scene could have gotten spicy but it was still a great scene. And in the 2nd half we got introduced to Arnold’s younger brother Theodore, and after being told to not give him the time of day of course Rishe went and did it anyway lol, and it’s clear already that he’s a devious lad, I’m not sure what it is he’s up to exactly but I feel like it can’t be good, I do like the addition of his character tho. And at the end we see Rishe going to meet Theodore, I’m interested in seeing how this interaction goes down. |
| Some little parts have been omitted, like the part where a maid helped Rise dying her hair, I thought they would include that part since . And here's Theodore, Arnold's little brother and second prince, yeah more family drama incoming. |
| No tomo malas decisiones, solo me gusta apoyar causas perdidas. Disfruté Mayoiga, Ou-sama Game, Evil or Live, Mirai Nikki, Big Order, Arifureta, Ex-Arm, Tesla Note, Shuumatsu no Harem y Platinum End nope les falle con esa, lo siento pero todos tenemos nuestros límites. Así de jodido es mi gusto en anime, ¡Y estoy pinche orgulloso de ello!  |
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Embient said:
What was she trying to convey with the fist lol?
What was she trying to convey with the fist lol?
Oh god, they completely messed up with adapting that scene lmao!
So Rishe found herself accidently coming across Arnold and Earl Marshall talking. She doesn't hear the whole thing but from the tone she can tell it's an argument and decides to show Arnold her support when he looked her way.
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Link to the picture from the manga if it's not working in the post.
| @Shimai_ni Oh, thanks! |
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| I'm fond of that "girl who isn't good at cooking + guy who just eats whatever yet likes her food" type of couple. |
| Weekly dose of my independent queen Rishe 🙏🏾 Finally time for her to meet her old friend Kaine for the first time in this life. Gotta feel weird to see someone you were so close with before using all this formal language and standing on ceremony. That first round of negotiations was never going to go anywhere. Rishe sneaking out and meeting Kaine at a more appropriate venue, a bar, was a good idea to show her willingness to get a deal done. Kaine is a very results oriented guy and won’t commit to something unless it benefits him. I like it. Rishe’s business acumen was on full display in this episode. Being able to read Kaine like a book because of how close they were also helps. Not to mention giving him medicine for the hangovers people will have after they wake up.. well played Rishe. The one thing she hadn’t considered was Arnold waiting in her room for her return lol. What I love about that scene in addition to the immense sexual tension, is that Arnold reaffirms his commitment to support Rishe in her endeavours. He doesn’t even try to pry in her business or limit her movements. He just wants her to be safe when doing so considering her position both as future Queen and his fiancé. Understandable. “ I said you’re free to do as you like, not put yourself in danger” cute 😩 The best way to a man’s heart is through his stomach. No better way to diffuse the situation than by offering to cook Arnold some food. Despite her humility, Rishe’s soup was more than enough to satisfy Arnold. Guess when you like someone anything they cook tastes good lol. The added medicinal herbs didn’t bother Arnold at all. Ah yes, Prince Theodore is here. I can already tell he’s a very interesting character. His introduction scene showcases his ability to go between the innocent persona and the more devilish and conniving one. He says he wants to save Rishe, but how does he know Rishe doesn’t want to be there lol!? I’m very much looking forward to that secret he has to tell her next episode. Arnold arguing with his military advisor about sending the military to help the nobles was a great scene. It seems from everything we’ve seen so far, that Arnold is a very considerate person and loves both his people and close servants. Prioritising the commoners safety over that of nobles who already have private armies isn’t the usual mark of a tyrant. I wonder what makes him go down that dark path in every previous loop. Really seems like Rishe and Arnold meeting is the big X factor! They’ve both always gone through life alone in these previous loops. The scene of Rishe giving Arnold a fist bump and telling him to do his best was so cute. When you got someone that sweet supporting you, how can you fail! Great ep |
Marinate1016Jan 28, 2024 10:59 AM
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| The story is psychologically interesting so far. So many brain games that are encountered. |
acidbart said: In my option (for what little that’s worth lol) this show has a LOT of potential. I haven’t read the manga so I’ve been completely blind to what’s coming. That said my fingers are crossed that the writer keeps this momentum going and doesn’t have anything ridiculous happen. I would like to see their love affair go up a couple notches though.. in so many of this type we won’t get anyc for romance until the last 2 episodes so hopefully this won’t be that way. The dialogue and the anime is some of the best of the season. I really love all of the political intrigue. All this said, I have really high hopes for an epic love story set at the feet of looming war. 🤞🏼 It’s based on a Light novel like not villainess stories btw. But yep, has goat potential. |
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| Those with cute faces usually have something to hide. I wonder how Rishe will deal with him. From the way Arnold treats Rishe, interacts with her, and every time he says that he lets Rishe do anything in her life... somehow I always feel like they've known each other for a long time and/or Arnold knows that the one in front of him now is Rishe who is now finally his. Especially when Rishe said that Arnold is different from the person she met in her previous life. But in the first episode, Arnold seemed shocked when he met Rishe and saw her jumping from the balcony lol and that's why he wanted to marry her right? So I'm not sure either. Compared to Theodore who immediately showed his ugly side, Arnold is still not too predictable. It seems that Rishe's intention to relax and "do nothing" in her seventh life will not go smoothly.... there are always things she has to do and finish lol. Well, although most of it is her own will anyway~ |
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acidbart said: In my option (for what little that’s worth lol) this show has a LOT of potential. I haven’t read the manga so I’ve been completely blind to what’s coming. That said my fingers are crossed that the writer keeps this momentum going and doesn’t have anything ridiculous happen. I would like to see their love affair go up a couple notches though.. in so many of this type we won’t get anyc for romance until the last 2 episodes so hopefully this won’t be that way. The dialogue and the anime is some of the best of the season. I really love all of the political intrigue. All this said, I have really high hopes for an epic love story set at the feet of looming war. 🤞🏼 I am so glad the anime gave you that impression. I am a big fan of the novel and I was worried anime fans won't get the feeling just how elaborate this story is and how even a seemingly unimportant dialog ends up being crucial later, because there is so much omitted content that some later conclusions will probably seem a little asspulled from Rishe's side. The story is slow and needs time to get to the point where it wants to be and that transition is much more natural in the novel for me, but anime still does a good job in covering major events. Unfortunately, unless we get more seasons, anime won't even scratch the surface of the story but I still hope everyone enjoys it because it's exactly how you described it! All I am gonna say is that you should definitely look forward to the next episode. It should leave a big impression on everyone. |
| Noir… It is the name of an ancient fate. Two sisters who watch anime. The peace of the newly born, their black hands protect. |
| yeah good as always. Cliffhanger is rude haha. Next week will be good :) |
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| So Rishe needs to make a business and have it succeed so that Tully will accept her partnership. Man, he's not playing around is he? Theodore looks rather interesting but also suspicious. He wants to save Rishe but she doesn't want to be saved but now the both of them are alone at the Chapel so who knows what will happen next week. I'm also gonna throw it out there and say that Theodore probably started the war by killing the Emperor and somehow Arnold was blamed for it, but we'll see, this is just what I'm thinking so far. |
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| Interesting episode, it's fun to watch her trying to use her past knowledge to get an advantage without it being obvious to others. I wonder what happened that made this seemingly perfect prince, who is shown caring for the people in this episode, wage a full on world war. Little brother is very sus, probably plays a role in all of this. |
| I really feel like they cut some bits of the story in this episode (especially with Tully). It might would have benefited the audience to hear some of Rishe's thoughts on this but maybe this will follow later and I don't think for now it affects the story. Regardless of this... I loved this episode. Especially the scene when Rishe was cooking for Arnold <3. And while Rishe seems to be an OP main character I love how she is not because she isn't superior in every aspect and she always has to think of new ways to make her plans work if things turn out differently from what she expected. That's a well-written strong female character. Also by showing us what she does and how instead of just constantly praising her. Which in the LN sometimes felt pushed forward but the anime doesn't and that's why I already love the adaptation because it captures the essense of the characters perfectly. Same with Arnold being a mystery and Rishe wondering about how his actions don't match what she knew from her other lives. There is, however, something I wish they would have done differently and I'm sorry tto say this... but Theodore's voice was not what I expected it to be. It doesn't fit his character at all which is suuch a shame because it ruins the flow of the story a little? But this is just a small issue and I guess I'll have to live with it... The build-up for this last scene when they meet in the chapel was great but it also felt a little cut short so I really, really hope they won't rush through what's coming next. But I'm definitely looking forward to more (my favorite anime of this season ♥). By the way... Rishe is so beautiful with brown hair <3 |
You're the light shining over The black and gloomy nights So long I've been waiting To run into your arms Oh, my only one desire You're the one I need Through the thousand years ~ Evermore "Midnight Sun" by AleXa |
| ngl i was getting bored before hein showed up. his younger brother seems like he's also out to ruin this. the fist thing with rishe was weird but weirdly cute lol. |
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| The episode is cool, this brother of his seems to be more of a bad person than the prince himself, was that one of the causes of the war? |
| hello, just a brazilian boy who likes anime |
| This is getting epic. 🥰 |
| It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
| Rishe meeting Kaine Tully of the Aria Trading Company to prepare for her wedding, but he doesn't give her the leeway of her offer, given that their standards don't quite measure up to her resolve. This is one of the lessons learnt from her past lives, yet she wasn't able to sway him, she's definitely missing something. And a drinking duel between Kaine's men, this pushes him to concede and start negotiations to get her plan working rightaway. Yet, Arnold was waiting for her late in the night as Rishe made her way back to the palace from sneaking out secretly, and he's only worried about her safety amidst letting her be free, only not for reckless stuff like this. Despite that, Rishe is a second-rated cook who prioritizes everything before her own meals, and Arnold's OK with whatever she made out of that soup. And just as she had kept the secret of her own plan, he too wants Rishe to avoid his older brother at all costs, without question. But lo and behold, Theodore found her awaiting at her gardening plot sleeping as a bed, though he understood her position as a slave to save her, as Rishe puts it. That enquires Rishe to ask her retainers about the relationship between both brothers, which appears to be fragmented. Aside, having overheard Arnold and his policy-inducing benefits to the people, Rishe understands that all the more, and with that letter from Theodore, understands that there's more to the mystery. What is going on between Arnold and Theodore? |
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| i really loved this show !!! rishe is so precious and pretty !! |
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@Shimai_ni yeah I’m definitely loving it. I’ll never make it to another season before I read it lol. I have two other books I’m into right now. The first is a series called “Aether’s Revival” I’m just starting book 6 and honestly I can’t put it down. Best way to describe it quickly would be imagine Harry Potter except from a samurai perspective with an epic love story in the background coupled with tons of blood and epic fighting.. best series I’ve read in a good bit. I’ve been working from home now for the past 8 years and while I’m sitting in front of those 3 screens all day I’m reading or listening to audiobooks. Any of you looking for something new check that one out. Its one of the few I’ve read where each book is actually as good or better than the one before it. Wish you all the best 😊
| @acidbart Thank you for the recommendation, I will put it on my plan to read list! |
| Noir… It is the name of an ancient fate. Two sisters who watch anime. The peace of the newly born, their black hands protect. |
| And there it is.. the Window-Slam (wall-slam) LOL... Please no bulli Riche >_< . LOL "I'm a terrible cook" LOL (but apparently the evil Prince's taste buds... either he's blinded by his attraction to Riche, or Riche is actually good at cooking) . Riche is so cute... I want to gobble her up, evil Prince has godly resistance to not try and touch her or even petting her head... . |
| Nothing Written Here But Us Anime Bunnies *boing boing boing* |
| I'm not going to lie, this was the first episode I didn't particularly enjoy. |
 why am i plagued with furry jokes everywhere I go |
| Great episode, enjoyable. Arnold looks like a pipsqueak. |
| "All things, be they divine or mortal, find their ultimate end. It is not a harsh punishment, but a merciful pardon."  |
| Arnold being so handsome and cool as ever, and Rishe being the awesome woman she is. But my, Arnold's younger brother is voiced by the same VA of Killua Zoldyck and sounds really goddamn sexy.. |
| What is Rishe planning by teaming up with Aria Trading Company? Why does she want that connection so much? What products does she intend to sell? Possibly medicinal herbs since that's what she gave Kaine. How the heck did she already make a soup with medicinal herbs if nothing was growing in her garden? I'm so confused. I'm curious why Arnold doesn't want Rishe to get friendly with Theodore and what's going on between them. For some reason, I'm not getting super bad villain vibes from Theodore tbh, he seems a bit girly. I don't understand why Rishe went to the chapel when I'm sure she knew Theodore summoned her. |
As a wise man once said, "No one hates anime more than anime fans"  |
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