Attack on Titan
| I didn’t like how we go through 3 seasons of seeing our characters struggle against this nazi country that keep their people down, for them to just flip the script and try to turn the other cheek. I get it they didn’t want innocent people to die but cmon man we didn’t watch this anime because of how wholesome it was |
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| 2 popular reasons i see from haters are they call the alliance as cringed marvel avengers they want eren to do 100% genocide of all humanity outside of paradis because they believe that will prevent the future war and destruction of paradis that happened in the ending scene but its clear in the ending scene of the anime that future war takes place many centuries afterward so its more likely a different conflict than the hate for eldians, and 100% killing of enemies is true to erens belief of if we kill all our enemies then we will be free and i keep moving forward until i destroy all my enemies |
| Before anyone comes here and starts making baseless assumptions about ending haters, here's what's hated. Massive alliance plot armor, Hundreds of titans + titan shifters did nothing to the Alliance, Marvel-type fight with no stakes unlike early seasons fights, sudden shift against the island, Eren motivation retcons, Eren character assassination, crying about mikasa while murdering billions, Eren being made into a tragic hero, Eren not knowing why he killed 80% of the world, Mikasa suddenly being the key character for the plot (Ymir bullshit), Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by Armin a few seconds later, Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by the fandom a few seconds later, Eren apparently lying in his previous monologues, Eren let them win, Worm being the big baddie and just disappearing cuz why not, Jean and Connie die only to get instantly revived, Zeke dying = Rumbling stops for some reason, Kruger fighting against Eren, Colossal Eren, overdone symbolism, Falco conveniently being able to fly and being an expert at it (when Eren and other shifters had entire arcs dedicated to learning titan stuff), Reiner sniffing letter, Annie not getting any consequences at all, Annie and Pieck crying for Eren, Armin being the Messiah, the rest of the world not killing Armin and his friends, Armin convincing Zeke to kill himself after he showed him Leaf, Mikasa carrying Eren's rotting head and using Moses powers to cross the ocean, Mikasa decapitating Eren then kissing the head, Ymir loved Fritz, Only Ymir Knows being the explanation for any question, climax battle with nobody except Eren dying, Paradis Island letting Avengers go back to the island, Mikasa thinking about Eren even after getting married, having children and grandchildren (poor husband), awful romance, 9/11 reference, Paradis gets bombed => Floch was right, sending the message that if you are gonna start a genocide, make sure you complete it fully (no half measures), "cycle of hatred" message that is overdone in media, Titans arent eradicated And I feel like there's more. |
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| gabi survived was a grave mistake kek |
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| I have to thanks those silly haters I read the finale was bad i was kinda prepared for a bland end of the story..... what i got was an epic masterpiece. It could have only ended like this 10/10 |
Reply to Odabrani
Before anyone comes here and starts making baseless assumptions about ending haters, here's what's hated.
Massive alliance plot armor, Hundreds of titans + titan shifters did nothing to the Alliance, Marvel-type fight with no stakes unlike early seasons fights, sudden shift against the island, Eren motivation retcons, Eren character assassination, crying about mikasa while murdering billions, Eren being made into a tragic hero, Eren not knowing why he killed 80% of the world, Mikasa suddenly being the key character for the plot (Ymir bullshit), Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by Armin a few seconds later, Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by the fandom a few seconds later, Eren apparently lying in his previous monologues, Eren let them win, Worm being the big baddie and just disappearing cuz why not, Jean and Connie die only to get instantly revived, Zeke dying = Rumbling stops for some reason, Kruger fighting against Eren, Colossal Eren, overdone symbolism, Falco conveniently being able to fly and being an expert at it (when Eren and other shifters had entire arcs dedicated to learning titan stuff), Reiner sniffing letter, Annie not getting any consequences at all, Annie and Pieck crying for Eren, Armin being the Messiah, the rest of the world not killing Armin and his friends, Armin convincing Zeke to kill himself after he showed him Leaf, Mikasa carrying Eren's rotting head and using Moses powers to cross the ocean, Mikasa decapitating Eren then kissing the head, Ymir loved Fritz, Only Ymir Knows being the explanation for any question, climax battle with nobody except Eren dying, Paradis Island letting Avengers go back to the island, Mikasa thinking about Eren even after getting married, having children and grandchildren (poor husband), awful romance, 9/11 reference, Paradis gets bombed => Floch was right, sending the message that if you are gonna start a genocide, make sure you complete it fully (no half measures), "cycle of hatred" message that is overdone in media, Titans arent eradicated
And I feel like there's more.
Massive alliance plot armor, Hundreds of titans + titan shifters did nothing to the Alliance, Marvel-type fight with no stakes unlike early seasons fights, sudden shift against the island, Eren motivation retcons, Eren character assassination, crying about mikasa while murdering billions, Eren being made into a tragic hero, Eren not knowing why he killed 80% of the world, Mikasa suddenly being the key character for the plot (Ymir bullshit), Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by Armin a few seconds later, Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by the fandom a few seconds later, Eren apparently lying in his previous monologues, Eren let them win, Worm being the big baddie and just disappearing cuz why not, Jean and Connie die only to get instantly revived, Zeke dying = Rumbling stops for some reason, Kruger fighting against Eren, Colossal Eren, overdone symbolism, Falco conveniently being able to fly and being an expert at it (when Eren and other shifters had entire arcs dedicated to learning titan stuff), Reiner sniffing letter, Annie not getting any consequences at all, Annie and Pieck crying for Eren, Armin being the Messiah, the rest of the world not killing Armin and his friends, Armin convincing Zeke to kill himself after he showed him Leaf, Mikasa carrying Eren's rotting head and using Moses powers to cross the ocean, Mikasa decapitating Eren then kissing the head, Ymir loved Fritz, Only Ymir Knows being the explanation for any question, climax battle with nobody except Eren dying, Paradis Island letting Avengers go back to the island, Mikasa thinking about Eren even after getting married, having children and grandchildren (poor husband), awful romance, 9/11 reference, Paradis gets bombed => Floch was right, sending the message that if you are gonna start a genocide, make sure you complete it fully (no half measures), "cycle of hatred" message that is overdone in media, Titans arent eradicated
And I feel like there's more.
| @MugiwaraJopa. I want everyone to read this! |
Reply to XxAtaraxiaxX
MugiwaraJopa said:
Before anyone comes here and starts making baseless assumptions about ending haters, here's what's hated.
Massive alliance plot armor, Hundreds of titans + titan shifters did nothing to the Alliance, Marvel-type fight with no stakes unlike early seasons fights, sudden shift against the island, Eren motivation retcons, Eren character assassination, crying about mikasa while murdering billions, Eren being made into a tragic hero, Eren not knowing why he killed 80% of the world, Mikasa suddenly being the key character for the plot (Ymir bullshit), Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by Armin a few seconds later, Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by the fandom a few seconds later, Eren apparently lying in his previous monologues, Eren let them win, Worm being the big baddie and just disappearing cuz why not, Jean and Connie die only to get instantly revived, Zeke dying = Rumbling stops for some reason, Kruger fighting against Eren, Colossal Eren, overdone symbolism, Falco conveniently being able to fly and being an expert at it (when Eren and other shifters had entire arcs dedicated to learning titan stuff), Reiner sniffing letter, Annie not getting any consequences at all, Annie and Pieck crying for Eren, Armin being the Messiah, the rest of the world not killing Armin and his friends, Armin convincing Zeke to kill himself after he showed him Leaf, Mikasa carrying Eren's rotting head and using Moses powers to cross the ocean, Mikasa decapitating Eren then kissing the head, Ymir loved Fritz, Only Ymir Knows being the explanation for any question, climax battle with nobody except Eren dying, Paradis Island letting Avengers go back to the island, Mikasa thinking about Eren even after getting married, having children and grandchildren (poor husband), awful romance, 9/11 reference, Paradis gets bombed => Floch was right, sending the message that if you are gonna start a genocide, make sure you complete it fully (no half measures), "cycle of hatred" message that is overdone in media, Titans arent eradicated
And I feel like there's more.
Before anyone comes here and starts making baseless assumptions about ending haters, here's what's hated.
Massive alliance plot armor, Hundreds of titans + titan shifters did nothing to the Alliance, Marvel-type fight with no stakes unlike early seasons fights, sudden shift against the island, Eren motivation retcons, Eren character assassination, crying about mikasa while murdering billions, Eren being made into a tragic hero, Eren not knowing why he killed 80% of the world, Mikasa suddenly being the key character for the plot (Ymir bullshit), Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by Armin a few seconds later, Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by the fandom a few seconds later, Eren apparently lying in his previous monologues, Eren let them win, Worm being the big baddie and just disappearing cuz why not, Jean and Connie die only to get instantly revived, Zeke dying = Rumbling stops for some reason, Kruger fighting against Eren, Colossal Eren, overdone symbolism, Falco conveniently being able to fly and being an expert at it (when Eren and other shifters had entire arcs dedicated to learning titan stuff), Reiner sniffing letter, Annie not getting any consequences at all, Annie and Pieck crying for Eren, Armin being the Messiah, the rest of the world not killing Armin and his friends, Armin convincing Zeke to kill himself after he showed him Leaf, Mikasa carrying Eren's rotting head and using Moses powers to cross the ocean, Mikasa decapitating Eren then kissing the head, Ymir loved Fritz, Only Ymir Knows being the explanation for any question, climax battle with nobody except Eren dying, Paradis Island letting Avengers go back to the island, Mikasa thinking about Eren even after getting married, having children and grandchildren (poor husband), awful romance, 9/11 reference, Paradis gets bombed => Floch was right, sending the message that if you are gonna start a genocide, make sure you complete it fully (no half measures), "cycle of hatred" message that is overdone in media, Titans arent eradicated
And I feel like there's more.
This guy nailed it^^ also the historia child buildup being shafted and Mikasa’s heritage meant nothing in the long run
| @XxAtaraxiaxX, thank god there are people in this fandom who have the brains and just don't fall for all the shit fanservice. |
Reply to Odabrani
Before anyone comes here and starts making baseless assumptions about ending haters, here's what's hated.
Massive alliance plot armor, Hundreds of titans + titan shifters did nothing to the Alliance, Marvel-type fight with no stakes unlike early seasons fights, sudden shift against the island, Eren motivation retcons, Eren character assassination, crying about mikasa while murdering billions, Eren being made into a tragic hero, Eren not knowing why he killed 80% of the world, Mikasa suddenly being the key character for the plot (Ymir bullshit), Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by Armin a few seconds later, Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by the fandom a few seconds later, Eren apparently lying in his previous monologues, Eren let them win, Worm being the big baddie and just disappearing cuz why not, Jean and Connie die only to get instantly revived, Zeke dying = Rumbling stops for some reason, Kruger fighting against Eren, Colossal Eren, overdone symbolism, Falco conveniently being able to fly and being an expert at it (when Eren and other shifters had entire arcs dedicated to learning titan stuff), Reiner sniffing letter, Annie not getting any consequences at all, Annie and Pieck crying for Eren, Armin being the Messiah, the rest of the world not killing Armin and his friends, Armin convincing Zeke to kill himself after he showed him Leaf, Mikasa carrying Eren's rotting head and using Moses powers to cross the ocean, Mikasa decapitating Eren then kissing the head, Ymir loved Fritz, Only Ymir Knows being the explanation for any question, climax battle with nobody except Eren dying, Paradis Island letting Avengers go back to the island, Mikasa thinking about Eren even after getting married, having children and grandchildren (poor husband), awful romance, 9/11 reference, Paradis gets bombed => Floch was right, sending the message that if you are gonna start a genocide, make sure you complete it fully (no half measures), "cycle of hatred" message that is overdone in media, Titans arent eradicated
And I feel like there's more.
Massive alliance plot armor, Hundreds of titans + titan shifters did nothing to the Alliance, Marvel-type fight with no stakes unlike early seasons fights, sudden shift against the island, Eren motivation retcons, Eren character assassination, crying about mikasa while murdering billions, Eren being made into a tragic hero, Eren not knowing why he killed 80% of the world, Mikasa suddenly being the key character for the plot (Ymir bullshit), Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by Armin a few seconds later, Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by the fandom a few seconds later, Eren apparently lying in his previous monologues, Eren let them win, Worm being the big baddie and just disappearing cuz why not, Jean and Connie die only to get instantly revived, Zeke dying = Rumbling stops for some reason, Kruger fighting against Eren, Colossal Eren, overdone symbolism, Falco conveniently being able to fly and being an expert at it (when Eren and other shifters had entire arcs dedicated to learning titan stuff), Reiner sniffing letter, Annie not getting any consequences at all, Annie and Pieck crying for Eren, Armin being the Messiah, the rest of the world not killing Armin and his friends, Armin convincing Zeke to kill himself after he showed him Leaf, Mikasa carrying Eren's rotting head and using Moses powers to cross the ocean, Mikasa decapitating Eren then kissing the head, Ymir loved Fritz, Only Ymir Knows being the explanation for any question, climax battle with nobody except Eren dying, Paradis Island letting Avengers go back to the island, Mikasa thinking about Eren even after getting married, having children and grandchildren (poor husband), awful romance, 9/11 reference, Paradis gets bombed => Floch was right, sending the message that if you are gonna start a genocide, make sure you complete it fully (no half measures), "cycle of hatred" message that is overdone in media, Titans arent eradicated
And I feel like there's more.
| @MugiwaraJopa Falco sinking the ship was also quite stupid. Could of taken 2 minutes to transform from a life boat. They even knew the risk and warned beforehand |
DegenerateRed said: There was a vocal group of edgy elitistic shippers who were mad after seeing that EreHisu (Eren x Historia ship) wouldn't become reality.So now that the anime has ended, what did people hate about the manga when that ended? There were also people mad about their headcanon not becoming real, lol. Manga ending wasn't perfect and its first version (the one from the magazine, not the extended version from Vol. 34) was really underwhelming, but come on. Some people reacted in such a childish way that it was even more pathetic than that one infamous scene with Eren by the sea. But from complaints coming from people who weren't toxic back then and actually wanted to talk in a civil way, I remember that most of folks criticized the writing and/or ridiculously done final battle, with over the top epicness. As for me, the first version of the manga ending felt underwhelming, even if thematically it was good. It didn't feel like an epilogue to me. On top of that it had several technical cracks, like starting new plot points instead of focusing on wrapping everything up. I guess Isayama-sensei wanted to try to go with the traditional jo-ha-kyuu ending mixed with the tropes popular in the West. If yes, then it'd be something definitely bold and difficult. Many experienced writers would've failed to harmonize those two modulation techniques, and AoT manga was the very first big manga project created by Isayama. Not to justify the technical cons, but it shouldn't be surprising that the ending felt lackluster in this aspect. Well, it apparently was surprising for many edgy manga elitists from back then, huh. |
| Seems like people unironically wanted Eren go become a cartoonish and shallow villain, that will destroy absolutely everything just because his mommy dies and win in the end. |
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| As someone that overall liked the ending, I do respect some points people bring up to not like the ending and I agree with very few of them. But yeah, a lot of them are bullshit. The huge wall of text the Mugi dude posted had some repeated points just to make his post "scarier" and some objectively dumb points ("Floch was right" is a big yikes). But ultimately I think it's all boosted by pretentious ppl like this Sozin guy. Nothing makes me instantly lose my respect than using the "I have bigger brain" argument. Just kinda shows how a shitty person you are. Now that most anime watcher loved the ending, there's already great arguments out there to counter balance the free hate. Well, not that it matter cause this will become a TLOU2 scenario where fanbase will fight through eternity. |
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Reply to Odabrani
Before anyone comes here and starts making baseless assumptions about ending haters, here's what's hated.
Massive alliance plot armor, Hundreds of titans + titan shifters did nothing to the Alliance, Marvel-type fight with no stakes unlike early seasons fights, sudden shift against the island, Eren motivation retcons, Eren character assassination, crying about mikasa while murdering billions, Eren being made into a tragic hero, Eren not knowing why he killed 80% of the world, Mikasa suddenly being the key character for the plot (Ymir bullshit), Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by Armin a few seconds later, Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by the fandom a few seconds later, Eren apparently lying in his previous monologues, Eren let them win, Worm being the big baddie and just disappearing cuz why not, Jean and Connie die only to get instantly revived, Zeke dying = Rumbling stops for some reason, Kruger fighting against Eren, Colossal Eren, overdone symbolism, Falco conveniently being able to fly and being an expert at it (when Eren and other shifters had entire arcs dedicated to learning titan stuff), Reiner sniffing letter, Annie not getting any consequences at all, Annie and Pieck crying for Eren, Armin being the Messiah, the rest of the world not killing Armin and his friends, Armin convincing Zeke to kill himself after he showed him Leaf, Mikasa carrying Eren's rotting head and using Moses powers to cross the ocean, Mikasa decapitating Eren then kissing the head, Ymir loved Fritz, Only Ymir Knows being the explanation for any question, climax battle with nobody except Eren dying, Paradis Island letting Avengers go back to the island, Mikasa thinking about Eren even after getting married, having children and grandchildren (poor husband), awful romance, 9/11 reference, Paradis gets bombed => Floch was right, sending the message that if you are gonna start a genocide, make sure you complete it fully (no half measures), "cycle of hatred" message that is overdone in media, Titans arent eradicated
And I feel like there's more.
Massive alliance plot armor, Hundreds of titans + titan shifters did nothing to the Alliance, Marvel-type fight with no stakes unlike early seasons fights, sudden shift against the island, Eren motivation retcons, Eren character assassination, crying about mikasa while murdering billions, Eren being made into a tragic hero, Eren not knowing why he killed 80% of the world, Mikasa suddenly being the key character for the plot (Ymir bullshit), Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by Armin a few seconds later, Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by the fandom a few seconds later, Eren apparently lying in his previous monologues, Eren let them win, Worm being the big baddie and just disappearing cuz why not, Jean and Connie die only to get instantly revived, Zeke dying = Rumbling stops for some reason, Kruger fighting against Eren, Colossal Eren, overdone symbolism, Falco conveniently being able to fly and being an expert at it (when Eren and other shifters had entire arcs dedicated to learning titan stuff), Reiner sniffing letter, Annie not getting any consequences at all, Annie and Pieck crying for Eren, Armin being the Messiah, the rest of the world not killing Armin and his friends, Armin convincing Zeke to kill himself after he showed him Leaf, Mikasa carrying Eren's rotting head and using Moses powers to cross the ocean, Mikasa decapitating Eren then kissing the head, Ymir loved Fritz, Only Ymir Knows being the explanation for any question, climax battle with nobody except Eren dying, Paradis Island letting Avengers go back to the island, Mikasa thinking about Eren even after getting married, having children and grandchildren (poor husband), awful romance, 9/11 reference, Paradis gets bombed => Floch was right, sending the message that if you are gonna start a genocide, make sure you complete it fully (no half measures), "cycle of hatred" message that is overdone in media, Titans arent eradicated
And I feel like there's more.
| @MugiwaraJopa solid list Eren has the most consistent personality and character growth right up until the final part of the story for no discernible reason. He has no reason to annihilate every living being on the planet - nevermind the ecological devastation ensuring a global extinction event - and his desire for freedom is handily fulfilled by simply taking out major military and political centers. Considering he managed to sneak into the largest empire's capital undetected and just wasted months of his life living there he would more than easily perform adequately in this regard. The hatred for Eldians was mostly propaganda and military strongarming as displayed by the Eldian crew (Eren included) happily spending time in gypsy and arab villages or discussing diplomacy with factions other than Marley. And it all boils down to "I'm stupid", "if i kill everyone there do i win?" not to mention the idiotic Mikasa angle which again baffles the mind considering the entire show up until this point. To portray him as a cuck out of the blue is like watching a toy bird have a screw loose and screaming emo rock instead of peaceful chirping. Schizoid writing right at the end when it mattered the most. |
Falcon07 said: Piromysl said: Seems like people unironically wanted Eren go become a cartoonish and shallow villain, that will destroy absolutely everything just because his mommy dies and win in the end. "We will use power of the friendship" Power of friendship was a major theme throughout entire series. Complaining about it just now is kinda too late. |
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Reply to Odabrani
Before anyone comes here and starts making baseless assumptions about ending haters, here's what's hated.
Massive alliance plot armor, Hundreds of titans + titan shifters did nothing to the Alliance, Marvel-type fight with no stakes unlike early seasons fights, sudden shift against the island, Eren motivation retcons, Eren character assassination, crying about mikasa while murdering billions, Eren being made into a tragic hero, Eren not knowing why he killed 80% of the world, Mikasa suddenly being the key character for the plot (Ymir bullshit), Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by Armin a few seconds later, Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by the fandom a few seconds later, Eren apparently lying in his previous monologues, Eren let them win, Worm being the big baddie and just disappearing cuz why not, Jean and Connie die only to get instantly revived, Zeke dying = Rumbling stops for some reason, Kruger fighting against Eren, Colossal Eren, overdone symbolism, Falco conveniently being able to fly and being an expert at it (when Eren and other shifters had entire arcs dedicated to learning titan stuff), Reiner sniffing letter, Annie not getting any consequences at all, Annie and Pieck crying for Eren, Armin being the Messiah, the rest of the world not killing Armin and his friends, Armin convincing Zeke to kill himself after he showed him Leaf, Mikasa carrying Eren's rotting head and using Moses powers to cross the ocean, Mikasa decapitating Eren then kissing the head, Ymir loved Fritz, Only Ymir Knows being the explanation for any question, climax battle with nobody except Eren dying, Paradis Island letting Avengers go back to the island, Mikasa thinking about Eren even after getting married, having children and grandchildren (poor husband), awful romance, 9/11 reference, Paradis gets bombed => Floch was right, sending the message that if you are gonna start a genocide, make sure you complete it fully (no half measures), "cycle of hatred" message that is overdone in media, Titans arent eradicated
And I feel like there's more.
Massive alliance plot armor, Hundreds of titans + titan shifters did nothing to the Alliance, Marvel-type fight with no stakes unlike early seasons fights, sudden shift against the island, Eren motivation retcons, Eren character assassination, crying about mikasa while murdering billions, Eren being made into a tragic hero, Eren not knowing why he killed 80% of the world, Mikasa suddenly being the key character for the plot (Ymir bullshit), Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by Armin a few seconds later, Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by the fandom a few seconds later, Eren apparently lying in his previous monologues, Eren let them win, Worm being the big baddie and just disappearing cuz why not, Jean and Connie die only to get instantly revived, Zeke dying = Rumbling stops for some reason, Kruger fighting against Eren, Colossal Eren, overdone symbolism, Falco conveniently being able to fly and being an expert at it (when Eren and other shifters had entire arcs dedicated to learning titan stuff), Reiner sniffing letter, Annie not getting any consequences at all, Annie and Pieck crying for Eren, Armin being the Messiah, the rest of the world not killing Armin and his friends, Armin convincing Zeke to kill himself after he showed him Leaf, Mikasa carrying Eren's rotting head and using Moses powers to cross the ocean, Mikasa decapitating Eren then kissing the head, Ymir loved Fritz, Only Ymir Knows being the explanation for any question, climax battle with nobody except Eren dying, Paradis Island letting Avengers go back to the island, Mikasa thinking about Eren even after getting married, having children and grandchildren (poor husband), awful romance, 9/11 reference, Paradis gets bombed => Floch was right, sending the message that if you are gonna start a genocide, make sure you complete it fully (no half measures), "cycle of hatred" message that is overdone in media, Titans arent eradicated
And I feel like there's more.
| I will also quote this post because it has many of the points that really irritated me with the ending, and still do. The plot ignores many plotlines and just disregards previously mentioned info. Literally anything with Historia after the time skip was pointless. They showed her many times, especially in the manga, interacting with eren and dripfeeding us little tidbits as though her pregnancy was important, and for some reason she asked Eren how he would feel if she were to have a child. Which is a very strange question to ask out of a guy who has literally NOTHING to do with the pregnancy and has no bearing on anything that happens afterwards. Lets say that conversation happened between them, okay, why show us the readers that they talked about this if it had absolutely nothing to do with the plot? I mean just read Mugi's post, he covers everything very well. Plenty of shit to hate in the ending. The writing goes schizophrenic. |
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Reply to Odabrani
Before anyone comes here and starts making baseless assumptions about ending haters, here's what's hated.
Massive alliance plot armor, Hundreds of titans + titan shifters did nothing to the Alliance, Marvel-type fight with no stakes unlike early seasons fights, sudden shift against the island, Eren motivation retcons, Eren character assassination, crying about mikasa while murdering billions, Eren being made into a tragic hero, Eren not knowing why he killed 80% of the world, Mikasa suddenly being the key character for the plot (Ymir bullshit), Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by Armin a few seconds later, Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by the fandom a few seconds later, Eren apparently lying in his previous monologues, Eren let them win, Worm being the big baddie and just disappearing cuz why not, Jean and Connie die only to get instantly revived, Zeke dying = Rumbling stops for some reason, Kruger fighting against Eren, Colossal Eren, overdone symbolism, Falco conveniently being able to fly and being an expert at it (when Eren and other shifters had entire arcs dedicated to learning titan stuff), Reiner sniffing letter, Annie not getting any consequences at all, Annie and Pieck crying for Eren, Armin being the Messiah, the rest of the world not killing Armin and his friends, Armin convincing Zeke to kill himself after he showed him Leaf, Mikasa carrying Eren's rotting head and using Moses powers to cross the ocean, Mikasa decapitating Eren then kissing the head, Ymir loved Fritz, Only Ymir Knows being the explanation for any question, climax battle with nobody except Eren dying, Paradis Island letting Avengers go back to the island, Mikasa thinking about Eren even after getting married, having children and grandchildren (poor husband), awful romance, 9/11 reference, Paradis gets bombed => Floch was right, sending the message that if you are gonna start a genocide, make sure you complete it fully (no half measures), "cycle of hatred" message that is overdone in media, Titans arent eradicated
And I feel like there's more.
Massive alliance plot armor, Hundreds of titans + titan shifters did nothing to the Alliance, Marvel-type fight with no stakes unlike early seasons fights, sudden shift against the island, Eren motivation retcons, Eren character assassination, crying about mikasa while murdering billions, Eren being made into a tragic hero, Eren not knowing why he killed 80% of the world, Mikasa suddenly being the key character for the plot (Ymir bullshit), Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by Armin a few seconds later, Eren killing his own mother being brushed away by the fandom a few seconds later, Eren apparently lying in his previous monologues, Eren let them win, Worm being the big baddie and just disappearing cuz why not, Jean and Connie die only to get instantly revived, Zeke dying = Rumbling stops for some reason, Kruger fighting against Eren, Colossal Eren, overdone symbolism, Falco conveniently being able to fly and being an expert at it (when Eren and other shifters had entire arcs dedicated to learning titan stuff), Reiner sniffing letter, Annie not getting any consequences at all, Annie and Pieck crying for Eren, Armin being the Messiah, the rest of the world not killing Armin and his friends, Armin convincing Zeke to kill himself after he showed him Leaf, Mikasa carrying Eren's rotting head and using Moses powers to cross the ocean, Mikasa decapitating Eren then kissing the head, Ymir loved Fritz, Only Ymir Knows being the explanation for any question, climax battle with nobody except Eren dying, Paradis Island letting Avengers go back to the island, Mikasa thinking about Eren even after getting married, having children and grandchildren (poor husband), awful romance, 9/11 reference, Paradis gets bombed => Floch was right, sending the message that if you are gonna start a genocide, make sure you complete it fully (no half measures), "cycle of hatred" message that is overdone in media, Titans arent eradicated
And I feel like there's more.
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Falcon07 said:
"We will use power of the friendship"
Piromysl said:
Seems like people unironically wanted Eren go become a cartoonish and shallow villain, that will destroy absolutely everything just because his mommy dies and win in the end.
Seems like people unironically wanted Eren go become a cartoonish and shallow villain, that will destroy absolutely everything just because his mommy dies and win in the end.
"We will use power of the friendship"
Power of friendship was a major theme throughout entire series. Complaining about it just now is kinda too late.
| @Piromysl The power of friendship didn't work for Marco or the original Levi Squad. The moral of season 1 is that believing in your nakama only gets them killed. |
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@Uiai Agree with that Gabi and Falco survive is the worst thing in this anime no doubt.
| @Inlighted0Varsh What is with this fixation on some kids to die? Ik the plot isn't the strongest in the end, but ig you missed the entire point of reason during Gabi and Braun family arc. Gabi is supposed to be a mirror image of Eren, her fixation with a political/military victory and an event where her friends get ground solidifying her hate. The redemption of Gabi is one of the most bittersweet element in Season 4. Really, I am done with this fandom, filled with edgelords and soulless idiots. Good thing this is the last one, I am out of this fandom. |
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| Everything is so black and white this days. MAL is no exception, people now either give things they like a 10 or what they hate a 2 with little in between. You have to differentiate between legitimate criticism and "hate". People pointing out flaws in the plot/story or being argumentative about certain characters isn't hating. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
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