Faxtual_Ghoul said: Violet Evergarden never really interested me. I looked up age gap and yikes. Now I DON'T want to watch it. KyoAni will rise again if they produce a facsimile of Violet Evergarden except they should remove the age gap romance and focus on character development more Or even better just adapt Vagabond, Punpun, Houseki no Kuni sequel, Kasane, The Climber, re-adaptation of Blue Period |
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| Their CGI's are still ugly and soulless. |
| The only anime I watched from KyoAni is Koe no Katachi, and I haven't watched any MAPPA anime, so idk. |
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UberBat said: Faxtual_Ghoul said: Violet Evergarden never really interested me. I looked up age gap and yikes. Now I DON'T want to watch it. KyoAni will rise again if they produce a facsimile of Violet Evergarden except they should remove the age gap romance and focus on character development more Or even better just adapt Vagabond, Punpun, Houseki no Kuni sequel, Kasane, The Climber, re-adaptation of Blue Period Uhh and they're literally both adults, I swear some of you people just look for shit to get upset about |
Risa92 said: billybub said: Spoken like a true 12 year old Ah yes that awful story about bullying and redemption, as opposed to the Shakespearian rival known as Chainsaw Man ZXEAN is right tho and let me correct myself: KyoAni girls are very milquetoast and often just otaku pandering. A Silent Voice is no exception for that. She was just an instrument for his personal development, she neither got development for her own, nor much personality at all. The boys in shows like Free and Tsurune are pandering in the opposite direction. Lol so KyoAnis art stile is now "otaku pandering" beginning to think you dont know what pandering even means. And of course Shouko is just an instrument for Shouya's development, the story is about HIM |
| MAPPA is more favorited than KyoAni? As it should be. Quality, variety, innovatice animation techniques intertwining the older ones, grand franchises receiving their anime adaptations. |
Risa92 said: billybub said: Lol so KyoAnis art stile is now "otaku pandering" beginning to think you dont know what pandering even means. And of course Shouko is just an instrument for Shouya's development, the story is about HIM I didn't talk about the art style, but about the characterization of these very docile and waifu-y girls. She still should have been treated more as the second protagonist and not as a means for his redemption arc. You don't need to be so defensive about it either, I didn't say I hate them or anything... Ok 1) If anything characters like Power, Kugisaki, hell the entire cast of Kakegururi would be a better definition of "Otaku Pandering" than any character in a KyoAni work. 2) Koe no Katatchi is about Shouya. Having Shouko be a second protagonist would defeat the whole point of the movie |
| Well, that figures, mappa makes more shows that appeal to the general public, not just anime fans but to what some would call "normies" as well. Also 1 digit difference doesn't really mean much, it can change in an hour and KyoAni will be #1 again |
| Cool? Im grateful for more studios that dont flashbang your screen and have people call that good animation... |
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| My thoughts are "why won't people stop obsessing over MAPPA?" Between this, FMA:B's perpetual #1 spot, and claiming every season is the worst/best ever before it's even started, I'm not sure which is more dumb. MAPPA isn't going anywhere any time soon. Deal with it. |
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| That's awful, truly a tragedy and only shows why the anime industry is only getting worse, people can't recognize talent anymore. |
Lucifrost said: Kyline said: They made Yuri On Ice and Rage of Bahamut: Genesis, both which are original stories. Kyoto Animation adapts stories but doesn't create any of its own.I couldn't think of any other anime Mappa has produced that is actual good. Kyoto Animation has produced original stuff like Tamako Market. |
| Well there's this event but hey... KyoAni is still number 1 in favorites on Anilist. I guess it makes official that Anilist is the better website of the two ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
  MAL is the perfect place to shit talk about people's opinions. |
| Well KyoAni hasn't done much stuff these years and MAPPA anime are being treated like the second arrival of jesus for some weird reason. |
 MOKUSHI KUSHIMO SHIMOKU KUMOSHI MOSHIKU SHIKUMO. |
iloathesasuke said: i mean Madhouse is better than both of them combined anyway.The race continues neck and neck. Very exciting. Although if you look at number of favorites per anime count, it is obvious who is the winner among top 3. |
| I really couldn't care less about the whole popularity thing, even more when it's on a non Japanese platform. Short answer is I like Kyoani better. Long answer: The last anime adaptation from MAPPA I watched was Chainsaw Man and boy did that show look soulless. I thought the fight scenes were supposed to be fast paced, high octane, pedal to the metal moments but in the anime they are just... fighting. The animation is way smoother compared to the average anime, yes, but it lacks punch, and not in a literal sense. Of course fight scenes are not the only criterium to judge the animation of an anime, what about the animation when the characters are not fighting? It's smooth but jarring to see, which is ironic because jarring is the word I usually use to describe a show with powerpoint animation but Chainsaw Man has managed to look junky for having too many frames in a lot of scenes. Kyoani on the other hand, they produce slice of life anime most of the time, yes, but you can see from the characters' movements alone that they look alive; they feel alive. If you watch a few Kyoani anime you would notice there's just something different to it than the rest of anime studio. Not even the praised Ufotable has it. The fluidity and coloring, and the overall composition of a show. Take Hibike! Euphonium and Kobayashi's Maid Dragon. Two very different shows, worlds apart. But you can tell the same anime studio worked on it. Even a comedy such as Nichijou has that Kyoani feel to it. I am biased because I don't like shonen especially battle shonen shows except for a few and a lot of manga MAPPA adapts are exactly that. So the million dollar question is: what do I think about this whole thing? Nothing. I don't care. |
"Nobody could laugh at someone who's trying their hardest" -Machio- |
| For many anime fans who became fans post 2020 MAPPA is the only studio they actually know. |
| Even tho I've only watched 5 titles from them, I'm biased towards KyoAni. Compared to any studios KyoAni characters feels alive and real. They do not act like puppets being tempted by the plot. They made characters more natural and human like. And that's all I personally care about. |
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| Well, they produce more than 1 anime per year. |
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| Its those cases where quality is not equals to quantity. Kyoto animation and Ufotable have the best animation right now but MAPPA takes in multiple popular shonen anime right now so of course a lot more people would like to have them in their favorites. |
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| It's because MAPPA has been animating a lot of popular shows these days. Yup due to popularity. |
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| Not too surprising, KyoAni got pity votes due to the arson attack and Mappa are in the limelight the most frequently, at the moment, pumping out popular shows non stop. Mappa will continue to crawl ahead. |
| Don't really care tbh. I don't pay attention to studios |
| Probably because people who started watching anime recently don't really know abouyt KyoAni since after the arson incident some years ago they disappeared and made only niches anime. I think KyoAni is WAY bettdr than Mappa and the quality of their animes clearly shows it, but oh well, thing changes. |
| Location: Turin, Italy Hobby: Music, karate, manga Favourite food: Hey, why are still interested in my stuff? |
rohan121 said: Just asking, why do you thing A SIlent Voice has an awful story? To me it felt like a realistic story with realistic characters and a very nice message, different from the usual "Bullies bad, victims good", so I'm just curious about different opinions.To me it looks like Mappa makes better anime in general. Kyoto animation is good at animating, but their stories fall flatter than any loli tsundere. Guessing the main defense of kyoto is pretty colors makes up for the awful stories like A Silent Voice. |
| Location: Turin, Italy Hobby: Music, karate, manga Favourite food: Hey, why are still interested in my stuff? |
Anime_Skaddiel said: Inexplicable said: which part of Lazrus, Buchigiri, Alice and Illusion factory is catering to "normies" Sir? They don't want to bankrupt their stduio with casual and underrated shows all the time( MADHOUSE flashbacks). They need shows like Jujutsu Kaisen or Chainsawman to survive in the Industry. They have nearly 400 employees. Their pay is also next to KyoAni. When studios like Ufotable riding Demons Slayer train, Bones with MHA,A-1 with their SAO. Mappa needs mainstream popular shows to make money. They're one of very few shows. That do most of their work In-house( of they outsource tight schedule work) only few stduio do that (Ufotable, P.A Works, Kinema Citrus)Well, that figures, mappa makes more shows that appeal to the general public, not just anime fans but to what some would call "normies" as well. Also 1 digit difference doesn't really mean much, it can change in an hour and KyoAni will be #1 again How exactly do you expect me to comment on the shows that haven't been released yet? |
| MAPPA offers a much wider selection of hyped shows and is much more frequent. Especially in recent years, when KyoAni first limited themselves to a couple of cash cows, and then fell victim to the infamous arson that froze the studio for a long time. |
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| And what? How does it affect anything? I watch what I like and nothing more. |
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| I think it deserves it. Everyone can hate on MAPPA all they want but they can't keep denying how much of a good studio they are when their works are repeatedly the top anime out at any given time with phenomenal animation (when they actually try). Anyways, I prefer Sunrise. |
| MAPPA produced a lot of anime during these years. Furthermore, many of them are mainstream anime. when KyoAni only has niche anime nowadays. It's a simple decision for newcomers to add MAPPA to their favorite list. Why newcomers? If we can recognize it. Last year, MAL just separated favorite studios from favorite people. I think old users who had previously left MAL did not have a slot to add KyoAni to their favorites, as newcomers can |
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| Mappa is kinda carrying modern shounen in general & has been making hit after hit none stop since 2020. Not to mention most of their popular series were airing during the pandemic which lead to a major rise in anime consumption. they literally hit a jackpot and are now dominating the anime scene. So its no surprise that this would eventually happen. Kyoani used to be a mega hit back in the mid 2000s-mid 2010s, but at the moment aren't creating as much popular shows as they used to. |
DaaraD said: that's not what i meant. I'm talking about their works. Madhouse tops those two combined.TRC_Randy said: i mean Madhouse is better than both of them combined anyway. Since a lot of Madhouse employees moved to MAPPA that claim does not hold much water. MAPPA was founded by an old Madhouse veteran after all. |
| Doesn't seem unusual. KyoAni is a staple, but isn't as active as MAPPA has been, especially concerning major hits. I hardly ever see mentions of Madhouse these days, despite being #3. As MAL grows & member #'s increase for current popular anime, people are going to naturally gravitate to the studios that are making them. |
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| Cat poop beats out dog poop. When will people start talking about the impact of Mushi Production, Tatsunoko Productions, Eiken (the studio, not the series...) and Shin-Ei Animation? They actually are the ones who really pushed anime forward, to which both Kyoto Animation and MAPPA reap the rewards of. |
| Mappa well was a good studio in story not animation quality depends on the show such there there last one was somewhat mid. But kyo ani has been on a little hiatus until maybe next year with Hibike season. I only hope for the best for both. Despite me prefering Mappa over kyo, I'm starting to see both sides. Wish the best for both. |
| my thoughts? I'm appalled. Mappa has more favorites because swarm of new anime fans love their new work. Kyoto has created so many titles we older fans can recall as nostalgia and outright legendary. Kyoto is FAR batter. |
| As someone with Kyoto Ani in my favorites: I don't care what anyone says. I respect MAPPA. |
| In the end, all girls are like the rose bride |
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