| How far can you go in holding your position if you think it's the right one? Are you willing to cross the line of outright harassment or abuse if you believe things don't work the way you think is right? Over the years, this question interests me more and more, as I meet more and more people who, it seems sincerely, believe that faith in one's own rightness justifies everything. Even to the point where they begin to engage in cyberbullying and are indistinguishable from ordinary bullies. |
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| Wow bob vs deg. Don't mind me I'm just enjoying the show. |
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deg said: yeah i have a few debates against him in the past, that's why I'm just gonna sit this one out lmao.Scavendgarr said: Wow bob vs deg. Don't mind me I'm just enjoying the show. more like its him vs all of MAL look at his forum activity its constant arguing with other people here and accusing others of hating on him |
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| This feels like a cry for help. Possibly fake, though. I am to lazy to go through your post history. But people who cry about cyberbullying often tend to be the worst bullies themselves. Or so I've heard. Wonder if that's true, heh. |
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princessoftrash said: Please show me where in this post I even mention myself or the actions of people in my address, lol.This feels like a cry for help. Possibly fake, though. I am to lazy to go through your post history. But people who cry about cyberbullying often tend to be the worst bullies themselves. Or so I've heard. Wonder if that's true, heh. |
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Scavendgarr said: Do I have to talk about the irony that this thread is not even about me, but deg literally starts to attack me and provoke a conflict here, while sincerely seeing the situation as some kind of provocation on my part? He wants to get a fight with me so badly that he doesn't even try to read the topic carefully, just instantly using it as an excuse.deg said: yeah i have a few debates against him in the past, that's why I'm just gonna sit this one out lmao.more like its him vs all of MAL look at his forum activity its constant arguing with other people here and accusing others of hating on him |
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RobertBobert said: no, stop. I'm supposed to eat my popcorn from the distance. You guys go fight i watch smh.Scavendgarr said: Do I have to talk about the irony that this thread is not even about me, but deg literally starts to attack me and provoke a conflict here, while sincerely seeing the situation as some kind of provocation on my part? He wants to get a fight with me so badly that he doesn't even try to read the topic carefully, just instantly using it as an excuse.yeah i have a few debates against him in the past, that's why I'm just gonna sit this one out lmao. |
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RobertBobert said: princessoftrash said: Please show me where in this post I even mention myself or the actions of people in my address, lol.This feels like a cry for help. Possibly fake, though. I am to lazy to go through your post history. But people who cry about cyberbullying often tend to be the worst bullies themselves. Or so I've heard. Wonder if that's true, heh. Ah I see, you are just a neutral observer, a seeker of knowledge. How trury admirable and inspiring. You are making my heart go all dokidoki <3 |
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Scavendgarr said: I'm tired of it myself. The dude literally follows my tracks and uses literally every opportunity to provoke a conflict with me, and as soon as I answer, he starts complaining that I'm playing the victim. It's either the most sophisticated troll I've ever seen, or the dude should just visit a psychiatrist and get some pills.RobertBobert said: no, stop. I'm supposed to eat my popcorn from the distance. You guys go fight i watch smh.Do I have to talk about the irony that this thread is not even about me, but deg literally starts to attack me and provoke a conflict here, while sincerely seeing the situation as some kind of provocation on my part? He wants to get a fight with me so badly that he doesn't even try to read the topic carefully, just instantly using it as an excuse. |
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princessoftrash said: I wouldn't call myself neutral, but that has nothing to do with me. I'm just interested in the "end justifies the means" mentality, when people consider themselves free in any means if they consider themselves right. But as you can see, this thread is a prime example of how easy it is for people to even start persecuting someone, thinking they are doing justice.RobertBobert said: Please show me where in this post I even mention myself or the actions of people in my address, lol. Ah I see, you are just a neutral observer, a seeker of knowledge. How trury admirable and inspiring. You are making my heart go all dokidoki <3 |
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| If you literally do not realize that with all your comments in this thread you literally confirm my words for me, then it seems that the second is still true (only a sick person can sincerely believe that systematic insults and harassment can prove that his opponent is only playing the victim and he does not touch anyone). Sorry for thinking you were a sophisticated troll and not a sickly stalker. I'm afraid that in this case any of my comments are really useless, you are so full of hatred that you will attack me even when all that is required of you is silence. |
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| lmao calm down go outside y'all like go watch some anime |
Mao said: If you have to shit, shit! If you have to fart, fart! |
vasipi4946 said: Which is what I'm doing, watching one show from the winter season right now. But some people are too obsessed with me that they don't see the irony of trying to provoke an argument with me to complain about me arguing with people.lmao calm down go outside y'all like go watch some anime |
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| Didn't we already have this thread like 3 times? |
ateks said: This one is not. But I created a thread about what people think about "the end justifies the means" last year.Didn't we already have this thread like 3 times? |
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deg said: i observe you all the time constantly arguing with other people and accusing them of personal attacks against you, its different than you thinking its yet another personal attack against you Now I don't know Robert since I don't hang around here a lot, but since you're accusing him, could you show us certain examples of Robert (from his post history) arguing with other people & these personal attack things? As of now he has a post count of 15,642 so we'll know if he deleted something or not. RobertBobert said: I'm willing to go as far as not bothering if it's just a senseless argument just to make oneself feel good about being right. Better do things that actually matter like doing your hobbies/interests.Are you willing to cross the line of outright harassment or abuse if you believe things don't work the way you think is right? But when it comes to moral things that I think is right then I'd be pretty stubborn about it. |
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-Shinzo said: Just ignore him. In his understanding, every time you argue with someone or point out their wrongful arguments, you attack people and play the victim. Even if before that you were trolled or even directly insulted (e.g. in at least two of his examples I reply to users who are directly attacking me, and in another I say that trying to be sarcastic is immature, but he just doesn't care). And of course, he will use it as an example every time I discuss Internet communication, even if I don't associate them with any disputes or people. Not to mention that the comment above directly refutes his claim that he is not stalking me.deg said: i observe you all the time constantly arguing with other people and accusing them of personal attacks against you, its different than you thinking its yet another personal attack against you Now I don't know Robert since I don't hang around here a lot, but since you're accusing him, could you show us certain examples of Robert (from his post history) arguing with other people & these personal attack things? As of now he has a post count of 15,642 so we'll know if he deleted something or not. RobertBobert said: I'm willing to go as far as not bothering if it's just a senseless argument just to make oneself feel good about being right. Better do things that actually matter like doing your hobbies/interests.Are you willing to cross the line of outright harassment or abuse if you believe things don't work the way you think is right? But when it comes to moral things that I think is right then I'd be pretty stubborn about it. There is nothing in being stubborn, I think. But when a person literally descends to cyberbullying, bullying, harassment and insults, believing that all this is justified if he considers himself right, then this is just an open rationalization of toxic behavior. |
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Dawizz said: It doesn't work when the more you ignore them, the more their fragile egos crack (e.g. in the past, one guy literally went crazy because I ignored his comments, that he literally started to openly insult me in a desperate attempt to get a response from me again). As you can see, as soon as his comments began to go unanswered, he began to write new ones even without my help. Only to once again attract my attention, and of course, once again accuse me of the victim syndrome if I answer. I don't know, maybe he's just secretly in love with me and therefore sublimates it into an obsession with my arguments?LOL anyone that is a "victim" of Cyberbullying is because deep down they like it, they like being a victim, they like the attention. They want it/go look for it. Plain and simple. But how so Dawizz? Why do you say such things Dawizz? Simple. Escaping & preventing cyberbullying is so plain and simple that even a 10 y/o can do it. Just log off/ban that person & institution/stop caring & reading the stuff that "makes you feel bad" or, or hear me out on this one. Grow a pair and learn to move on. That will be 200€ for my service, thank you very much. Cash only, I don't do PayPal or CBDC's/grypto. |
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| we talking like internet forums and social media right? eh just one or two responses and i make them as triggering as possible for the other person, it gets boring soon after like arguing about veganism is the perfect example he he but anything more than a little bit of teasing is just fucking insane, i just cant imagine bullying and harrasing people over anything, and if its something thats actually bad id rather not engage and just report it, and i am well aware that there are entire communities dedicated to harrassing people, not even for their worldviews, but just mere existance, im very sensitive to this kind of thing |
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elgatosaika said: Well, half a year ago, a well-known twitter blogger decided to start a thread about why death threats are bad and a significant part of the answers were in the style of "but if they really deserve it ?!". I haven't done any polls and don't want to get percentages out of my head, but a certain subset of people on the internet really think that if people are bad, or if they declare them to be bad, that it justifies any action on their part.we talking like internet forums and social media right? eh just one or two responses and i make them as triggering as possible for the other person, it gets boring soon after like arguing about veganism is the perfect example he he but anything more than a little bit of teasing is just fucking insane, i just cant imagine bullying and harrasing people over anything, and if its something thats actually bad id rather not engage and just report it, and i am well aware that there are entire communities dedicated to harrassing people, not even for their worldviews, but just mere existance, im very sensitive to this kind of thing |
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Scavendgarr said: RobertBobert said: no, stop. I'm supposed to eat my popcorn from the distance. You guys go fight i watch smh.Do I have to talk about the irony that this thread is not even about me, but deg literally starts to attack me and provoke a conflict here, while sincerely seeing the situation as some kind of provocation on my part? He wants to get a fight with me so badly that he doesn't even try to read the topic carefully, just instantly using it as an excuse. (https://youtu.be/UAeqVGP-GPM) |
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deg said: RobertBobert said: How far can you go in holding your position if you think it's the right one? Are you willing to cross the line of outright harassment or abuse if you believe things don't work the way you think is right? Over the years, this question interests me more and more, as I meet more and more people who, it seems sincerely, believe that faith in one's own rightness justifies everything. Even to the point where they begin to engage in cyberbullying and are indistinguishable from ordinary bullies. youre just playing victim again youre a professional victim just blacklist of all MAL already and be done with it everytime someone argues with you you claim to be a victim of hate and you do passive aggressive reactions Yeah, because you're one to talk. All you ever do is spout nonsense and then call everyone who disagrees with you, or gives you legitimate criticisms, toxic. Just your behavior in this thread alone is more toxic than anything I've seen Bob do. OT: If I fully believe I am right, then I will defend my position. I don't feel the need to assert it in every situation, since it's not that serious most of the time, but if I see something that I can add, and I feel like speaking up then I will. |
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deg said: StarfireDragon said: Yeah, because you're one to talk. All you ever do is spout nonsense and then call everyone who disagrees with you, or gives you legitimate criticisms, toxic. Just your behavior in this thread alone is more toxic than anything I've seen Bob do. OT: If I fully believe I am right, then I will defend my position. I don't feel the need to assert it in every situation, since it's not that serious most of the time, but if I see something that I can add, and I feel like speaking up then I will. youre anti poor and pro rich a social darwinist that believes profit over people so your opinions do not matter Thank you for proving my point. Now, if you want to denounce crybullying, you shouldn't resort to that yourself. Plain and simple. If you want to play the victim, that's your business. But don't denounce others for doing the exact same thing that you do. |
This ground is soiled by those before me and their lies. I dare not look up for on me I feel their eyes |
deg said: I've had several interactions with Bob here, and while there's been some disagreements, I've never gotten the sense of any ill will. To the best of my recollection at least. Granted I could be overlooking things as I'm one to do dispite the somewhat frequent use of undertones and/or sarcasm from myself. Scavendgarr said: Wow bob vs deg. Don't mind me I'm just enjoying the show. more like its him vs all of MAL look at his forum activity its constant arguing with other people here and accusing others of hating on him |
| How this is a post of hate against Bob? Actually I dont know him so I'm neutral |
deg said: FanofAction said: I've had several interactions with Bob here, and while there's been some disagreements, I've never gotten the sense of any ill will. To the best of my recollection at least. Granted I could be overlooking things as I'm one to do dispite the somewhat frequent use of undertones and/or sarcasm from myself. im active on recent post section so not just anime discussion section and i see him arguing and accusing people of personal attacks against him most of the time Calm bro, its not worth it (this character limit will kill me someday ngl) |
deg said: i am calm i just got plenty of time and want to expose his toxic ways at least on this thread that he accuse people (implied) of doing cyberbullying against him I see... so go ahead. I'm no one to say no. |
deg said: Fair. I'm willing to admit I don't pay much attention to anything outside of anime dicussion and occationally casual discussion. So I have no real way to dispute this. FanofAction said: I've had several interactions with Bob here, and while there's been some disagreements, I've never gotten the sense of any ill will. To the best of my recollection at least. Granted I could be overlooking things as I'm one to do dispite the somewhat frequent use of undertones and/or sarcasm from myself. im active on recent post section so not just anime discussion section and i see him arguing and accusing people of personal attacks against him most of the time |
deg said: Ok, I see the part you're mentioning. I'll say this; whether or not people are gearing personal insults towards someone, it's easy to assume it is happening if things are worded a certain way. FanofAction said: Fair. I'm willing to admit I don't pay much attention to anything outside of anime dicussion and occationally casual discussion. So I have no real way to dispute this. well just look at this own thread of his and this other one https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2105564 its implying he is a victim of constant hate again |
inim said: thanks for the clip. Made my day. Character limitScavendgarr said: no, stop. I'm supposed to eat my popcorn from the distance. You guys go fight i watch smh. (https://youtu.be/UAeqVGP-GPM) |
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| this one time a person in front of a shopping center didnt return their cart to the cart returns and it hit my car and scratched it and left a pretty deep indentation while i was away. this was a revelation to me: the moral/personal obligation of cart returning will be shared to the great parking lots of america. now keep in mind: the stores sometimes have personnel kid collecting them, but its a nice and polite thing to do (returning the cart). also sometimes the store has signs that say the store isnt responsible for damages done through this way, but not all and they shouldnt be. so what i do is go around parking lots of america and point out to lazybones all over the error of their ways trying to very politely and reasonably entice them to be better persons (people). i even have magnets for cars for a gentle reprimand for persistent lazybones. cart narcs for life |
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