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May 8, 2023 5:35 PM

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"Chainsaw Man" did the pervy stuff better.
May 8, 2023 8:12 PM
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hahahaha wtf i just watched, this anime is so... i dunno how describe it, but i'd say it's interesting...
May 8, 2023 8:38 PM

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Interesting episode, I think Kiruko and Maru might have something more than just friendship and duty going on... That whole thing with the Asura' ''ghost'' or whatever that was was terrifying, I hope we can see a lot of the mysteries being cleared up by the end of this season, and hopefully we get another season of this. It's also interesting that they show us how curious and sexual the kids are.


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May 8, 2023 11:51 PM

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Queenhater_69 said:
I’m very surprised by how sexual this show is but I feel like there’s a deeper meaning to the horny shit going on in the facility.

I'm starting to believe the facility is "heaven," and the kids are used for breeding. So their children are used to mingle with the man eaters. But, it also seems as if the robot in charge is playing a double agent by covering for the kids while they go to "heaven" at night. While also keeping the adults around to keep it functional. Weirdly enough, I wonder if those kids are all two minded idv. like the female/male lead. Regardless, the sexaul nature of the show is increasing. Hopefully, the build-up amounts to something good .
May 9, 2023 12:09 AM
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Wonderful and marvelous story and quality all elements is in balance
May 9, 2023 3:40 AM
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WHAT people didn't know Tokio was a girl, why, because she has short hair? JAJJSJSJ I knew the first time they showed her, her face and her voice delated her JAJAJAJ
May 9, 2023 4:55 AM

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If I were to sum up this whole episode in one sentence, I would go with:

"It's a Trap!"

Anyway, this ep was quite good, and I wonder when will Maru realize what it means when he can enter some other person.
May 9, 2023 8:13 AM
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This episode made me feel uneasy... Totori is a 13 years old kid who is basically a prostitute and that's portrayed as comedy and fanservice. Also, Kiruko using her deceased sister's body to blackmail... and the way Maru "forced" her when she backed down on her proposal... made me feel very uncomfortable. My mind was thinking all the time: this is so wrong.

To the people who say it's normal for teenager characters to experience their sexuality... yes, that's true, but what makes me feel a bit uncomfortable is how they are drawing those characters in suggestive poses, exhibiting most of their body, etc... it's questionable at least.

Other than that, I must admit that I'm not a big fan of the comedy in this series and I felt that the characters were sometimes drawn with less detail than in previous episodes. For my tastes, this has been the weakest episode to date. But I'm still waiting for the next episode with enthusiasm.
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May 9, 2023 8:57 AM

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TallsFalls said:
This episode made me feel uneasy... Totori is a 13 years old kid who is basically a prostitute and that's portrayed as comedy and fanservice. Also, Kiruko using her deceased sister's body to blackmail... and the way Maru "forced" her when she backed down on her proposal... made me feel very uncomfortable. My mind was thinking all the time: this is so wrong.

To the people who say it's normal for teenager characters to experience their sexuality... yes, that's true, but what makes me feel a bit uncomfortable is how they are drawing those characters in suggestive poses, exhibiting most of their body, etc... it's questionable at least.

Other than that, I must admit that I'm not a big fan of the comedy in this series and I felt that the characters were sometimes drawn with less detail than in previous episodes. For my tastes, this has been the weakest episode to date. But I'm still waiting for the next episode with enthusiasm.

Yeah Totori being that young is quite a shock... Did she say her age in the anime or did I just miss it? I only know her age from seeing the manga panel someone posted here
That ending scene was already kinda weird, it's one thing if she just goes for other teenagers, but the way she says she wants to be the "queen of holtels" makes me wonder otherwise...

As for Maru and Kiruko, I don't see a problem with that, Kiruko did promise Maru, and its not like he tried to r*pe her, he just wanted to grab the boob he was promised
May 9, 2023 8:59 AM

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k0rvus said:
xacerdete said:

No one ever said it was a girl. Just "someone."

The very beginning of the story goes out of its way to say that Maru just has a girly face, which is meant to make the audience think the same is probably true of Tokio. It definitely was something the author wanted to keep ambiguous until the reveal.
I still interpreted having a girly face as meaning that it's because he shares the face with this other girl. Her voice also sounds like a girl's. I don't understand how this was some kind of reveal lmfao


Subs in my language for Tokio were using male pronouns. :P
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May 9, 2023 9:46 AM
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horniness level was too high in this episode XD
May 9, 2023 10:24 AM

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These kids hella horny wtf
May 9, 2023 11:09 AM

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This is *so far* my favorite anime of the season, but I have to admit that the amount of sexual content, however censored and slight, feels pretty gross to watch as I am an adult and the characters are… barely teenagers. I have a feeling that some of it serves a purpose to the plot - tokio gets pregnant in a nursery where babies are manufactured? - but even so, I can’t say I love it.

Other than that I think Heavenly Delusion has originality, endearing characters, good pacing, etc. And I hope it continues on this path for the second half of its air time. 
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May 9, 2023 11:22 AM
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I haven't read the manga so I'm curious, is Haruki (Kiruko) gonna eventually accept the fact they're now a female and let Maru hit?
May 9, 2023 11:37 AM
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Ok, this episode was sh*t, and all the series is becoming worse than sh*t with being sexual thematically and stinky topics, its not even enjoyable anymore

There were light indications before which got worse and worse each episode, but this is it. Dropping this show now

I hate it when I like a show at the beginning and turns out like that, a big disappointment, it makes me so mad maaaan
May 9, 2023 12:11 PM
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Hasan_Lelouch said:
Ok, this episode was sh*t, and all the series is becoming worse than sh*t with being sexual thematically and stinky topics, its not even enjoyable anymore

There were light indications before which got worse and worse each episode, but this is it. Dropping this show now

I hate it when I like a show at the beginning and turns out like that, a big disappointment, it makes me so mad maaaan

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May 9, 2023 2:58 PM

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Noelle43 said:
I have to admit that the amount of sexual content, however censored and slight, feels pretty gross to watch as I am an adult and the characters are… barely teenagers.
I'm usually not find of sexual contents whether in anime, films or TV shows, but in that particular anime, I believe most of what is depicted has a meaning within the story, often understood long after the actual scene. They're not there just to please a certain male audience (i.e. they're not fan service).
Granted, the scene between Totori and Maru is not of the best taste, but it actually has a meaning (I'm a manga reader so I'm a bit ahead) and role in how Kiruko's perception of her relationship with Maru evolves.
May 9, 2023 3:01 PM

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I was expecting it to be some crazy monster in that underground bit, but it being a bear was probably a good thing in that sort of environment.
Maru really is that easy to motivate...
Kiruko also walking in at the wrong time wasn't great.
The dream Tokio had seems quite strange, but it looked like a premonition.
Wonder if next ep that doctor will confront her about the shoes, since it seems she isn't appearing on any of the cameras as well.
May 9, 2023 3:06 PM

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DigiCat said:
As for Maru and Kiruko, I don't see a problem with that, Kiruko did promise Maru, and its not like he tried to r*pe her, he just wanted to grab the boob he was promised
To be honest, as a general attitude, it's still problematic. If a girl makes such a promise but when the moment comes, retracts, you can be mad at her but you should not force her.
The thing is: this is a story in law-less world, what is considered proper behaviour is not exactly widespread. It does not mean that the author endorse this behaviour and in fact, it's not exactly shown in a very good light.
It also tells something else about Kiruko. She still has at this moment difficulties to accept her body as her's (I use "she" but could use "he" at his point), so she's kind of not yet protecting it as she should (I mean, probably not a single girl would have made such a promise).
May 9, 2023 6:18 PM
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episode went crazy frl
May 9, 2023 6:47 PM
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Most of the people put off by this episode's content (and maybe more, like the school plot, or Kiruko's backstory, etc) probably have rated Evangelion pretty highly despite those characters being 14 and involved with the same type of content mixing adult themes, sexuality, and comedy. A post-apocalyptic seinen involving a coming-of-age story of teenagers inspired by old fashioned sci-fi is just going to have this kind of stuff. It's not that people have to like it but I'm not sure why they're so surprised, it's nothing new for anime and comes with the territory. Maybe people got too fooled by false comparisons to other series early on due to the premise. 
May 12, 2023 10:29 PM
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Woah, that ep went by fast !

I mean, it kinda was a filler ep, but I still enjoyed it. Can't wait for the rest of their journey to continue now :)
May 13, 2023 1:55 AM

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This episode was horny as fuck and I loved it



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May 13, 2023 3:48 AM

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Hotori become slut in this alternate world
May 13, 2023 4:03 AM

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interesting episode to say the least
May 13, 2023 4:13 AM
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It's getting more confusing.
May 13, 2023 10:04 AM

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Can already tell Author-san was feeling extra horny while drawing these chapters: Maru risking his life for some tits, him going rapey mode on Kiruko, that 13yo offering herself to strangers, the whole "I'm in" joke, the confirmation of Tokio and Kona doing the nasty and her getting pregnant because of it, etc.

But well... still a somewhat interesting episode tho. Despite all the horniness, we still got some plot bits here and there such as Maru being able to use his power on some "humans" and that facility doctor finally targeting Tokio.

And by the way, big facepalm moment at those people who didn't realize Tokio was a girl till this episode.
May 14, 2023 3:24 AM
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its awesome bro after life
May 15, 2023 4:59 AM
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Loved everything, especially the oppai part-
May 16, 2023 7:35 AM

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Very weird episode, whenever a show overdoes the fan service like that it loses some value for sure. Shows about a 7 rn
What fanservice? I'm not really seeing any fanservice here. It's just part of the story.
May 16, 2023 11:04 AM

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Why am I kiruko and Maru is my boyfriend?
May 17, 2023 8:37 PM
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whaaaat tf is going on?

dude feels up some random chick and she's naked on his bed lol. his doppelganger at the research facility is actually a girl that's sleeping with a boy?

this is so bizarre. putting teenage sexuality/coming of age story with the background setting of some dystopian/sci fi kind of world

7.5/10, because it's genuinely interesting (dystopian sci fi) and somewhat weird (teenage coming of age) at the same time
May 18, 2023 8:36 AM
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I wonder if S1 will reach the point where we find out who Totori's parents are. 
May 20, 2023 1:12 PM
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i mean it the "reveal" wasnt really a reveal cuz if the doc can transport anybody to another body then he be imortal
May 20, 2023 4:43 PM

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Ah yes the biggest motivator of all - boobies T_T

Anyways wtf was the hotel girl thinking lol, never do that to your customers
May 20, 2023 7:37 PM

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That bear man-eater sure liked to have some fun. Kiruko was certainly quick on her feet to blow off the pillar to make it collapse.
This episode was super horny. Maru wanted to touch Kiruko's breast. The girl owner received the Maru touch.
That Maru touch gave us a peak of his powers. It kind of reminded me of Emiya Shirou's magic circuit but even more lethal. I have a feeling that Maru's touch can kill man-eaters.
And it looked like that girl owner has that red circle thingy inside her which made Maru let go of his hand. Then made her shriek. *Slowly proceeds to pin her down doggy style*

May 23, 2023 11:02 PM

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At least He can touch it with someone else body XD
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May 26, 2023 9:50 PM
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im feeling lonely
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its good real good
Jun 3, 2023 11:55 AM
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Enter? FOR The back? Hilarious!!! kekeke
Jun 3, 2023 11:55 AM
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Yes, enter in a new way!!! kekeke

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I think they aren´t humans!!! ;)


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Yes, it was a strange power!!!! kekeke

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Poor bear, I sad to see it just!!! kekeke

Jun 8, 2023 4:48 PM

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so manga readers ive got a question, will the author drop more scenes/situations in which he sexualise minors?

im not talking abt tokio and kona's scene no, im talking abt maru and that 13 years old girl's scene.
Jun 8, 2023 11:22 PM

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limitedsky said:
so manga readers ive got a question, will the author drop more scenes/situations in which he sexualise minors?

im not talking abt tokio and kona's scene no, im talking abt maru and that 13 years old girl's scene.

I'm going to repeat what I wrote in another thread:
The show is not "sexualizing" the characters. They are kids between 13 and 17 and of course you're interested in sex at this age. They are not shown in the nude or talking about sex to arouse the audience. This done every time to be meaningful. Damn, most people didn't even realize Tokyo was a girl before being shown naked.
Talking about sexual topics and sexualizing are completely two different things. And this show is about the former, not the later.
But to answer you, no.
Jun 9, 2023 2:26 AM

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rvdboom said:

I'm going to repeat what I wrote in another thread:
The show is not "sexualizing" the characters. They are kids between 13 and 17 and of course you're interested in sex at this age. They are not shown in the nude or talking about sex to arouse the audience. This done every time to be meaningful. Damn, most people didn't even realize Tokyo was a girl before being shown naked.
Talking about sexual topics and sexualizing are completely two different things. And this show is about the former, not the later.
But to answer you, no.


i hear you and yes i read the whole pages, and if you pay attention to my words i wrote i didn't mean tokio and kona scene, all what's happening in the facility is shown as you say, im not minding that.

I'm talking about the hotel girl, the 13 years girl and the whole scene with her poses and the inside jokes, etc. even some people here were disappointed that a certain panel wasn't shown in the anime.

that's what im asking about if anyone can understand me and my question and answer me id be grateful.
Jun 16, 2023 6:47 AM

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Pretty fuckin weird and uncomfortable episode. Ever since the genderbender stuff happened this show's decided to laser focus on the sexual desires of it's very underaged cast. It seems that's the direction the show's trying to head in, being an allegory for adolescence, though there are way more tactful and less fetishy ways of doing so than what's on display here.

In a twisted way, the shock factor of this episode was entertainment enough for me, though I'm beginning to question whether I wanna stick along for the ride. There's still some good stuff, though. Maru and Kiruko's relationship is very much the hook of the series for me, and the bear management arc of this episode was great.
Jun 16, 2023 7:14 AM

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rvdboom said:
limitedsky said:
so manga readers ive got a question, will the author drop more scenes/situations in which he sexualise minors?

im not talking abt tokio and kona's scene no, im talking abt maru and that 13 years old girl's scene.

I'm going to repeat what I wrote in another thread:
The show is not "sexualizing" the characters. They are kids between 13 and 17 and of course you're interested in sex at this age. They are not shown in the nude or talking about sex to arouse the audience. This done every time to be meaningful. Damn, most people didn't even realize Tokyo was a girl before being shown naked.
Talking about sexual topics and sexualizing are completely two different things. And this show is about the former, not the later.
But to answer you, no.

I agree with you conceptually, though the problem is that the show isn't saying anything with how it chooses to represent sexuality. What does the scene with Maru and Totori say about either of the two? It's completely isolated from the rest of the episode, is deliberately titillating with it's use of camera angles and is of zero consequence to the development of either characters. Virtually every scene in this show that's remotely sexual could be trimmed and you wouldn't be missing anything of value or even notice that something's missing. As for it not sexualising the characters. I dunno, man. This stuff's been getting progressively more gratuitous with each episode.
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XeroBeat said:
What does the scene with Maru and Totori say about either of the two? It's completely isolated from the rest of the episode, is deliberately titillating with it's use of camera angles and is of zero consequence to the development of either characters. Virtually every scene in this show that's remotely sexual could be trimmed and you wouldn't be missing anything of value or even notice that something's missing. As for it not sexualising the characters. I dunno, man. This stuff's been getting progressively more gratuitous with each episode.

It does show that Maru has some moral concern about the age of the girl while she doesn't give a dam. Which tells you that in these world where civilization has collapsed, moral is basically a personal thing and vary from one individual to the other. We don't see enough of Totori after this but this scene had an important consequence to Maru. He understands that the Hiruko he can detect can have a human form. And he can make the difference between a Hiruko in human form compared to a Hiruko in man-eater one.
It also shows that Hirukos are very drawn to sex, much more than other characters, and there's probably a reason for that which needs to be understood. I can't say more here without spoiling.
Apart for this scene, what do we have so far:
- A photograph of Mimihime taking a shower: it's used to show for once Shiro's strong emotional reaction toward her, while he's so stoic about the rest. It also shows that someone is manipulating the kids to develop sexuality (since we know they are not taught anything about that).
- An image of Tokio in the nude: obviously necessary for half the readers to understand she was a girl all along. Besides, there's obviously something afoot with the kids' gender in general.
- Two girls kissing : give me a break
- Juichi touching Kiruko's breasts: for me, it shows that Juichi's experience in the female community has removed any sexual desire for woman, to the point he doesn't even realize that what he does is overboard. This scene was overdone in the anime (I didn't like the work of this director).

That's basically it. We're talking about what, about 10s of animation, plus the Maru-Totori scene which lasts about 1mn over 11 episodes of 23 minutes. 1mn 10s out of 250mn. There's probably more sexual content in 60% of anime than in this.
Sorry but no. I refute that this show is sexualizing kids. None of these scenes have the purpose to arouse the audience, but to tell something.
And I disagree that they could be done differently. Change the way they're done and you don't express the same ideas and feeling anymore.
You consider that trimming the scenes would not remove anything of value but that's only true for you because you don't want a show like this to have sexuality as a theme.
Well it does and for good reasons.
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