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Why didn't Jigokuraku blow up in popularity like JJK and Chainsaw Man?

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Jun 8, 2023 7:51 AM
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Despite being from the same studio and part of the "Dark Shounen Trio" the hype about it is nowhere near CSM and JJK, what did go wrong?
Jun 8, 2023 7:57 AM
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Because the anime is pretty meh....
Jun 8, 2023 8:09 AM
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I guess it just didn't get much exposure compared to the other two.



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Jun 8, 2023 8:22 AM
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AdamTheDarkness said:
part of the "Dark Shounen Trio"
I'm thinking this doesn't really exist since I've never heard of it before.
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Jun 8, 2023 8:26 AM
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look at the animation quality of this one compared to those 2 popular shows

if you just want to know the story then i recommend reading the manga
Jun 8, 2023 8:35 AM
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AdamTheDarkness said:
 what did go wrong?
A true conundrum, isn't it? Quite inexplicable.
Seriously, though, it's not like a studio can 100% guarantee the quality of the production. I, for one, dropped it because I simply couldn't bring myself to care about anything going on, so there's that too.
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I'm thinking this doesn't really exist since I've never heard of it before.
Had the exact same thought.
Jun 8, 2023 8:39 AM
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i still think the current score is too high for it. it is just normal shounen, nothing new or unique, predictable even, typical overpowered mc stuff. nothing major happened in the first 6 or so episodes, i just found the latest episode interesting.

jigokuraku's the true overrated anime airing this season.

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Jun 8, 2023 8:40 AM
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Even though I had high expectations for it, Jigokuraku doesn't really deserve that same kind of recognition and popularity. It's pretty bland. 
Take for example the latest episode (9). It was a relatively important fight but you wouldn't be able to tell with how bad the animation was. 
Jun 8, 2023 8:43 AM
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1) worst production value out of the three
2) storywise, it isn't generic enough to appeal to the average battle shounen fan, but not great enough to appeal to the connoiseurs either

I personally like it a little bit because I usually like edgy stuff, but I expected more.
Jun 8, 2023 8:44 AM

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Because it's a lukewarm anime, almost nothing has happened so far except for the death of some NPCs that no one knows.
I have the impression that this anime will get better in the next episode, but when that episode arrives, nothing new happens.
The fight between Gabiru and that immortal hottie was quite boring and forgettable. I thought it would be the moment when we would discover something about their weakness, so that other characters could have the opportunity to kill them using their intelligence, but...
If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time.

Watch more movies, please.

Perhaps, this is hell.
Jun 8, 2023 8:55 AM
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I'm watching it. I feel the first half was  slow, but the second half is much better. 
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Jun 8, 2023 9:32 AM

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I think it's due these reasons
- Worse animation than them
- lack of any cool characters besides Gabimaru (if you even consider him cool)
- No one you'd really want to root for. Cardboard charecters with a sad backstory stuck to them didn't help it either. Only the female mc caught my interest.
- Also fights are kinda lacklustre. Chainsawman fights were also underwhelming but I don't think most people were invested in csm for that reason.
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Jun 8, 2023 9:46 AM

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it's not super bad, but it's just not as flashy and interesting as jjk or csm
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Jun 8, 2023 9:52 AM

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Because it censored the nipples, seriously, it had a chance to distinguish itself as truly edgy if they had been willing to show the actual nudity instead of just taking the safe route and showing us bare nippless boobs, which is the greatest offence any anime can take. Either show the nipple or keep that lump of fat covered with something, nothing more offensive to look at then nippless boobs.
Jun 8, 2023 11:45 AM

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Because it got shadowed by oshi no ko
Jun 8, 2023 12:00 PM
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Because the anime kinda of is ass ngl, it isn't all that interesting or fun to watch, it's just eh 
Jun 8, 2023 12:47 PM

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I'm not the most well-versed in what's going on with this "dark trio" label, but I always assumed it was more of a thing on the international anime fan internet side than something official, so I never gave it much regard. Also, "Hell's Paradise" didn't blow after the anime like JJK or blow up before the anime like CSM.

Personally, I did not find "Hell's Paradise" that engaging so reading the manga was enough for me. I'm not going to bother watching the anime (the visuals for the opening is very good though).
Jun 8, 2023 1:07 PM

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I've only read the manga but I'd say that it's the worst of the three anime mentioned.

AdamTheDarkness said:
Dark Shounen Trio

Why did this become a thing and how do we stop it?
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Despite being from the same studio

Spider-Verse and the Emoji movie were also made by the same studio around the same time but the difference in quality is massive.
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Jun 8, 2023 2:45 PM
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It's slow paced and running about in the jungle.. Almost 10 episodes and we still know nothing more than we knew in episode 2
 

Jun 8, 2023 3:26 PM

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BigMac7 said:
I think it's due these reasons
- Worse animation than them
- lack of any cool characters besides Gabimaru (if you even consider him cool)
- No one you'd really want to root for. Cardboard charecters with a sad backstory stuck to them didn't help it either. Only the female mc caught my interest.
- Also fights are kinda lacklustre. Chainsawman fights were also underwhelming but I don't think most people were invested in csm for that reason.


There was not a single underwhelming thing about Chainsaw Man's fights. It was never the single main draw of the manga, but pretty much all of it's action was done as well.
Jun 8, 2023 3:39 PM

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Probably a few different factors. The animation isn't as consistently good as Chainsaw Man and JJK, the anime didn't get as much promotion prior to its release, and the manga doesn't seem to be as popular as Chainsaw Man already was prior to its anime (idk about JJK though). There could be other factors as well, contributing to Jigokuraku's reception and popularity not blowing up the same way that Chainsaw Man and JJK did, but these are the ones that I can think of off the top of my head.
Jun 8, 2023 3:44 PM

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Wanted to like it but my review kind of says what i feel about it.
Jun 8, 2023 3:48 PM

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Even though I had high expectations for it, Jigokuraku doesn't really deserve that same kind of recognition and popularity. It's pretty bland. 
Take for example the latest episode (9). It was a relatively important fight but you wouldn't be able to tell with how bad the animation was. 

JJK is bland too. I think CSM is overrated but does propose more than those two in term of originality.
The difference is elsewhere imo. They are just more general public-friendly. Typical shonens like JJK became easily pretty popular even when they are bad like Black Clover. JJK isn't "bad" so it's even easier.
Jun 8, 2023 3:54 PM

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Because it's trash, it is actually the worst of 3, I just don't give it a lower score than Chainsaw Man because the Chainsaw Man anime was absolutely atrocious. A better question would be how Jujutsu Kaisen and Chainsaw Man got so popular.
Jun 8, 2023 4:15 PM
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I've fallen asleep through 7 out of 9 episodes and I still understand most of it.
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Jun 8, 2023 4:16 PM
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Cuz Hell's Paradise is both boring as hell and absolut garbage and clearly the worst of 3, overhyped for nothing (and now nobody talks about it).
"Great cast of characters" bla bla bla  -> No charismatic character such as Gojo or popular character such as Makima or Power = No one will create a link with the manga, no one will make degenerate tiktok about Gojo's walkin animation -> less popularity 

In other words, there's nothing mainstream about the manga, and the story isn't complex or sophisticated enough, nor is the worldbuilding for people to create a niche around it.

At least with Jujutsu you know what you gettin, a Naruto rip off with Gojo carriying the whole serie in his back and that's fair.
Chainsaw Man, at least the manga is somewhat good and a bit different, I get the vision.

+ I swear that "dark trio" is a made up thing, never heard that before and it's a huge statement when Hell's Paradise is nowhere near Jujutsu and Chainsaw Man which are nowhere near the real trio (One Piece, Bleach and Naruto). 
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"Why didn't Jigokuraku blow up in popularity like JJK and Chainsaw Man?"

Because it's actually fun, not your stagnated shounen melodrama. It presents the emotions of the MCs a bit differently and definitely doesn't takes itself seriously. Also it's a bit episodic and the modern audience is indoctrinated to take this as a bad thing.

In short - it's different. It doesn't fit the golden battle shouen formula...which makes it way watchable for me than JJK and CSM.
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didn't have the hype machine behind it to the degree of chainsaw man and isn't as well produced, executed and in my opinion as enjoyable as jjk.

it's not awful and there are things to like about it, but frankly it's surprising that it's as popular and highly rated as it currently is.
Jun 9, 2023 3:47 AM

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because it's mediocre at literally every front, nothing stands out about it

story - nothing happened
action - nothing special, the animations dont stand out either
power system - idk, not that interesting
music - not even noticable
dialogue - either infodumps or tiring statements ("SAGIRI WOMAN" "I MUST RETURN TO MY WIFE")
characters - pretty bland, gabi and sagiri got their whole ch development in like 2 episodes
villains - no villain stands out
deaths - new characters die for shock value then get sad flashback






Jun 9, 2023 4:24 AM

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Sorry to break it any of its fans.

Aside from the brutality, its pretty much "mehhhhh"

Jun 9, 2023 10:48 AM

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alshu said:
"Why didn't Jigokuraku blow up in popularity like JJK and Chainsaw Man?"

Because it's actually fun, not your stagnated shounen melodrama. It presents the emotions of the MCs a bit differently and definitely doesn't takes itself seriously. Also it's a bit episodic and the modern audience is indoctrinated to take this as a bad thing.

In short - it's different. It doesn't fit the golden battle shouen formula...which makes it way watchable for me than JJK and CSM.
I won't disparage the opinion but I will say I'm not sure I see how you came to these opinions.  I have 0 problem with episodic shows and to me its exactly your basic shounen everything minus some of the things that can actually elevate some of those shows.  Somehow Nezuko making uwu noises manages to be a better character addition than the flashbacks of his wife. That said at least the Sheena Ringo and Uru are bangers.
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It’s better than jjk, but Csm gets much better in later parts which have not been animated yet

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Jun 9, 2023 2:02 PM

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Syrian187 said:
[I'm not sure I see how you came to these opinions.

I should earn the right to have opinions before you? Naaah.

Syrian187 said:
I have 0 problem with episodic shows

Oh, I was talking personally to you? This is new to me.

Syrian187 said:
to me its exactly your basic shounen everything

I said "a bit differently", not "radically different".

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minus some of the things that can actually elevate some of those shows

Imagine the thing you respect in battle shounen being totally annoying to me...
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alshu said:
Syrian187 said:
[I'm not sure I see how you came to these opinions.

I should earn the right to have opinions before you? Naaah.

Syrian187 said:
I have 0 problem with episodic shows

Oh, I was talking personally to you? This is new to me.

Syrian187 said:
to me its exactly your basic shounen everything

I said "a bit differently", not "radically different".

Syrian187 said:
minus some of the things that can actually elevate some of those shows

Imagine the thing you respect in battle shounen being totally annoying to me...
I wont entertain the opinion part because thats not how I meant it on either front so not worth going through since it seems to have made you defensive.

But I'm not sure what you are referring to in the last part since I didn't mention anything specifically that you could be alluding to that you find annoying but since i assume you are being tongue in cheek I was referring to animation/fight scenes for shonen specifically that can elevate an otherwise generic show its nothing that deep.
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I love it way more than CSM (my opinion)
Jun 9, 2023 4:19 PM

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Syrian187 said:
since it seems to have made you defensive.

What one should do when being attracted? Surrender automatically?
Why standing out to your opinion is perceived as weakness?
I never understood that.

Syrian187 said:
But I'm not sure what you are referring to in the last part since I didn't mention anything specifically

"Minus some of the things that can actually elevate some of those shows" literately means "it doesn't have many positive qualities".
Like one man's trash is another man's treasure - what you see as a negative may be something I like.

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I was referring to animation/fight scenes for shonen specifically that can elevate an otherwise generic show its nothing that deep.

Wait, the show is devoid of those?
Jun 9, 2023 4:41 PM

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Because with how much they spent on this anime, even if they make a loss, it wouldn't matter much to the studio at all.
Jun 9, 2023 4:44 PM

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Jigokuraku's anime has a weak story.

Having that said, JJK is overrated.

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