MAPPA CEO says Chainsaw Man Season 1 was a financial success but implied not as successful as Jujutsu Kaisen

JayBlue said:
But still no season two announcement? The proof is in the pudding.

JayBlue said:
But still no season two announcement? The proof is in the pudding.

Jun_Rei said:

It hasn’t even been a year yet since Season 1💀💀💀💀💀

JayBlue said:
But still no season two announcement? The proof is in the pudding.

Jun_Rei said:

It hasn’t even been a year yet since Season 1💀💀💀💀💀

JayBlue said:
But still no season two announcement? The proof is in the pudding.

thunderkitten13 said:

Reincarnated as a Sword. Lycoris Recoil. Eminence in Shadows. My Dress up Darling. Plenty of other anime have had season two announcements by now. Reincarnated as a Sword was announced like a week after season one ended, and it has like 25% the following of CM, if not even less. When will CM fans stop coping, and demand more of Mappa?

thunderkitten13 said:
It’s almost as if the months and months of people coping, COPING, that “BD sales
don’t matter” or “streaming is where most of the profits are made” were nothing but the ramblings of fans that couldn’t believe that the series was not only mediocre but wasn’t even as profitable as they believed. JJK did not have anywhere near the amount of investment as CM but still garnered way more income. At this point, it’s safe to say CM most likely barely broke even and made enough to simmer down the tempers of investors. He literally says they missed the target audience through the adaption, something a lot of critics (such as myself) have been saying since episode one. The series takes itself WAY too seriously. I hope they adjust the tone because CM may end up costing Mappa a lot more than just their reputation. But more important than all of this, I hope CM can take away one thing from this interview: BD’s still matter!

thunderkitten13 said:
It’s almost as if the months and months of people coping, COPING, that “BD sales
don’t matter” or “streaming is where most of the profits are made” were nothing but the ramblings of fans that couldn’t believe that the series was not only mediocre but wasn’t even as profitable as they believed. JJK did not have anywhere near the amount of investment as CM but still garnered way more income. At this point, it’s safe to say CM most likely barely broke even and made enough to simmer down the tempers of investors. He literally says they missed the target audience through the adaption, something a lot of critics (such as myself) have been saying since episode one. The series takes itself WAY too seriously. I hope they adjust the tone because CM may end up costing Mappa a lot more than just their reputation. But more important than all of this, I hope CM can take away one thing from this interview: BD’s still matter!

thunderkitten13 said:

There’s no way they made enough to green light a season two. Mappa is probably putting CM back in the shelf and prioritizing OPM and JJK, which has the potential to be major money makers. In fact…I don’t doubt CM is most likely going to get rebooted.

BilboBaggins365 said:
I mean yeah lol. No one said it didn't underperform. There is a big difference to that and flop. It still was a huge series that MAPPA of course was going to profit from. Personally the idea though it would ever be as big shows like Spy x Family or DS like some people thought from the very get go was delusional even if every single person was happy with the adaption. 


Coping? It's just a dumb comment. Vinland Saga got a S2 after the anime saw barely any improvement in manga sales after the anime came out and hardly did anywhere near what CSM did on streaming and probably wasn't that much better on physical sales. Implying that CSM will not get a season 2 (only one of the biggest manga airing right now) is just either simple trolling or moronic.

AOT didn't get S2 until four years after S1 came out. Why some shows get announced sooner isn't just oh yeah it's the most popular series. I wouldn't be shocked if they announced it at their stage even in a few days.

thunderkitten13 said:

There’s no way they made enough to green light a season two. Mappa is probably putting CM back in the shelf and prioritizing OPM and JJK, which has the potential to be major money makers. In fact…I don’t doubt CM is most likely going to get rebooted.

thunderkitten13 said:
It’s almost as if the months and months of people coping, COPING, that “BD sales
don’t matter” or “streaming is where most of the profits are made” were nothing but the ramblings of fans that couldn’t believe that the series was not only mediocre but wasn’t even as profitable as they believed. JJK did not have anywhere near the amount of investment as CM but still garnered way more income. At this point, it’s safe to say CM most likely barely broke even and made enough to simmer down the tempers of investors. He literally says they missed the target audience through the adaption, something a lot of critics (such as myself) have been saying since episode one. The series takes itself WAY too seriously. I hope they adjust the tone because CM may end up costing Mappa a lot more than just their reputation. But more important than all of this, I hope CM can take away one thing from this interview: BD’s still matter!

Helenafin said:
I just find it funny how the fanbase kept saying that Blu-Rays don’t matter yet the CEO himself said he wanted to sell more. Not to mention how some were doing detective work on Mappa’s page traffic to prove that they sold 20k copies on their site 🤣
It was obviously not as impactful as JJK and the numbers speak for themselves whether you talk about manga sales, followers on their official pages like Instagram or Twitter or even on this site. You don’t need the financial records for that.

deg said:
from google translate



https://toyokeizai.net/articles/-/672004

so thoughts? he acknowledge the weak disc sales there too but as expected the streaming rights carry the profit

he also implied that its not as financially successful as Jujutsu Kaisen

DrkSeid69 said:
Just because he wanted to sell more doesn't that mean the BD's matter

Do i have to show you how low the BD contribution is on anime market last year?

JayBlue said:
But still no season two announcement? The proof is in the pudding.

thunderkitten13 said:
It’s almost as if the months and months of people coping, COPING, that “BD sales
don’t matter” or “streaming is where most of the profits are made” were nothing but the ramblings of fans that couldn’t believe that the series was not only mediocre but wasn’t even as profitable as they believed. JJK did not have anywhere near the amount of investment as CM but still garnered way more income. At this point, it’s safe to say CM most likely barely broke even and made enough to simmer down the tempers of investors. He literally says they missed the target audience through the adaption, something a lot of critics (such as myself) have been saying since episode one. The series takes itself WAY too seriously. I hope they adjust the tone because CM may end up costing Mappa a lot more than just their reputation. But more important than all of this, I hope CM can take away one thing from this interview: BD’s still matter!

thunderkitten13 said:
It’s almost as if the months and months of people coping, COPING, that “BD sales
don’t matter” or “streaming is where most of the profits are made” were nothing but the ramblings of fans that couldn’t believe that the series was not only mediocre but wasn’t even as profitable as they believed. JJK did not have anywhere near the amount of investment as CM but still garnered way more income. At this point, it’s safe to say CM most likely barely broke even and made enough to simmer down the tempers of investors. He literally says they missed the target audience through the adaption, something a lot of critics (such as myself) have been saying since episode one. The series takes itself WAY too seriously. I hope they adjust the tone because CM may end up costing Mappa a lot more than just their reputation. But more important than all of this, I hope CM can take away one thing from this interview: BD’s still matter!

Catalano said:
financial success means nothing when the adaptation is trash, can't wait to see another censored kiss and cgi bomb devil in s2, thank you crappa

seriouslyjokinn said:

do you even know a name of the single animator who worked on CSM before talking shit? Do you even know what is a good adaptation of a manga? Do you even know what good animation ( most probably to you good fights/composition=good animation, which is, spoiler, completely bs) is?Do you even know what good or bad CGI is? Do you know the reason why puke kiss was censored? Nice for you to trash talk here, leave internet and start faping.

JayBlue said:
But still no season two announcement? The proof is in the pudding.

BilboBaggins365 said:
I mean yeah lol. No one said it didn't underperform. There is a big difference to that and flop. It still was a huge series that MAPPA of course was going to profit from. Personally the idea though it would ever be as big shows like Spy x Family or DS like some people thought from the very get go was delusional even if every single person was happy with the adaption. 


Coping? It's just a dumb comment. Vinland Saga got a S2 after the anime saw barely any improvement in manga sales after the anime came out and hardly did anywhere near what CSM did on streaming and probably wasn't that much better on physical sales. Implying that CSM will not get a season 2 (only one of the biggest manga airing right now) is just either simple trolling or moronic.

AOT didn't get S2 until four years after S1 came out. Why some shows get announced sooner isn't just oh yeah it's the most popular series. I wouldn't be shocked if they announced it at their stage even in a few days.

Fa5P said:

dude he literally said that it was a financial success you are the one coping that it barely break even and that they were barely able to pay the investors and what not.. well flash news for you THERE WERE NO OTHER INVESTORS mappa was the sole investor and thats in what the problem lies for keyboard warriors because some people tried to make it seem like it was a complete failure with the BD sales which were frankly low and he even admitted that but all the money was made before the anime airing with distributing rights and all the merch that was sold through their website.

Elucid said:

This is a statement from the MAPPA CEO, you're acting like he's lying. He even said it wasn't as popular as JJK so it's even more credible.
You're just ranting dude.

Fa5P said:

omg you cant be this dumb of course its not shelved, of course its not getting rebooted it will simply take time because that team is now working on jjk s2. Opm doesnt have anything to do with this and there isnt even confirmation that is mappa doing it besides some leakers made people believe its not mappa so its all in the air right now.
Your all argument falls flat because you cant admit that season 1 was successfull to a point when the fucking CEO of the company said so and you keep going on and on about the BD's and how they where bad numbers like dude we get it and it seems Otsuka does to since he himself said the numbers were low but thats not gonna dictate the future of the series because guess what we woudnt have gotten any more seasons after season 2 of aot because the BD sales were shit and the same applies to vinland which had weak numbers of BD sales for season 1 but mappa still decided to take on the project and animate season 2 knowing that it will most likely not sell well again and they will likely continue for a season 3,4....

seriouslyjokinn said:

It's not official that Mappa is going to do OPM. To do OPM they need all these animators back like Yutapon, Arifumi Imai, Keiichiro Watanabe, Hironori Tanaka, Tatsuya Yoshihara, Kouki Fujimoto and many other 100 talented key animators to make it look as good as season 1, which Mappa could do that because this studio is full of talents. But if they do that, whole anime industry is going to come crashing down for a year or two, BEACUSE THERE WONT BE ANY OTHER VETERAN ANIMATORS TO DO OTHER SHOWS!! And looking at back at Bleach TYBW arc cour 1 when it was airing right besides the giants like CSM (which almost had as same staff as OPM Season 1) and Mob Psycho 100 Season 3, cour 1 of Bleach literally suffered from not having enough talent. Not only Bleach but many other animes suffered from this. And this is bad. Hells paradise is best example of this. It doesn't look that good because it's a less priority show in mappa and also it's airing along some giants like Oshi No Ko and Tengoku Daimakyo (which already have all the freelance animators for this season). Also, it would be stupid if they are not doing CSM season 2, because this where it starts to be peak. JJK season 2 is already in worse schedule but thanks to Shouta "goat" Gozzoshono, everything is stable. So, no. Only one who is coping is you..

DrkSeid69 said:
What kind of copium did you use? You were the one who was on copium this whole time, the CEO of the studio behind CSM anime literally said that it was a financially success even tho the revenue isn't as good as JJK and he was disappointed about the numbers of BD sales


if BD's still carry the industry, explain to me:

• Why there're more ONA than OVA now?
  
• Why BD's contribution for anime market nowadays is so low to the point that it almost do nothing for the market?
  
  

It literally takes 2 CEO to say the BD didn't really matter. stop clowning yourself, karen!

Rimusimp said:

They said it was a success what are you on about. It’s getting a season 2 cope harder