Crunchyroll Version is Censored

Roseslash said:


Can you please just be a corporate shill and censorship apologist more openly.

MadanielFL said:
How is it destroying the anime industry? 

Last time I checked, Crunchyroll literally helps produce anime. 

And if they are pressuring Japanese creators to stop making content that woke people don't like, then it really makes me wonder why Crunchyroll co-produced Shield Hero and Harem in the Labyrinth...

Jokuc said:
The two are not mutually exclusive. Just because CR helps making anime and do good things to advance the industry doesn't mean they also can't enforce stupid western ideals into the productions they are part of. As productions have different staff and different management structures with CR having a varying amount of influence (sometimes none, sometimes a lot), said ideals will not necessarily be as prevalent in every production. One must be on copium to believe that Crunchyroll does not in any way influence the way production or presentation of anime they produce or acquire. Once we agree on that fact, whether or not they are "destroying the industry" is purely a subjective matter.

As for this specific case, do I believe that CR were the ones who censored the anime? Not directly, no. The anime was most likely censored by the animation studio by request of the producers because they are aware of western market ideals and the CR board among others probably have been in contact with them providing them this "guidance" or probably even "request".

SSTHZero said:
Crunchy is "censoring" the subs too. Because you know... you can't have a girl being different from a boy. Crunchy vs correct subs:

Jokuc said:

this is a big yikes, I'd be fucking furious about shit like this if I was a crunchyroll customer

traed said:


The second one is actually closer to what was actually said while first is adding in what is implied. Second is actually basically same as what is in the uncensored version. The first one is from the Japanese censored version. A lot of people here still havent figured out there is three versions of the show not two.

traed said:
 I just am not sure where the different subs are coming from.

traed said:
@SSTHZero
I mean there is different ways to translate and both of the examples used i had seen outside of Crunchyroll version. My bandwidth is over limit currently so I dont feel like going through the episode a third time to check which sub was used by Crunchyroll but regardless uncensored one I saw used more non gender specific language in the subtitles where you have to take into context what is said. There is a censored version that's censored different from Crunchyroll at least when it came to the first episode. I just am not sure where the different subs are coming from.

Romangelo said:
People who pay for these American localizers aren't really supporting the anime creators. In fact, you guys help destroying the anime industry.
These American localizers keep gaining more money and thus more power. Now they even have enough power to pressure the Japanese creators to stop making content in a way that the woke people don't like.

amlg said:
LOL

Just started watching this anime and noticed there was a uncensored version on the site I watch anime on.

came here to check what's the difference, apparently it's some fog and some cut scenes?

And somehow... the subs are sorta different as the uncen sub are sourced from China instead of Japan?... huh...

It's fine I guess, since I can understand some Japanese audio even without looking at the sub directly.

But yea, from the above example, it feels like the uncen subs are sorta censored by way of the current trend of "gender identity" where ppls wants to be identified as something they're not born with and gets angry if they were called upon by their birth. (which is funny, cause "real life" Gay/ Trans/ genderbend is banned in China, where the uncen versions is obtained from, so they probably wanted to avoid calling a person of male origin a "girl" in the chinese subs)

CR apparently doesn't care and just goes with the real translates.

Too bad no one's going to rip and swap the subs from CR into the Uncen version, LOL.

amlg said:
LOL

Just started watching this anime and noticed there was a uncensored version on the site I watch anime on.

came here to check what's the difference, apparently it's some fog and some cut scenes?

And somehow... the subs are sorta different as the uncen sub are sourced from China instead of Japan?... huh...

It's fine I guess, since I can understand some Japanese audio even without looking at the sub directly.

But yea, from the above example, it feels like the uncen subs are sorta censored by way of the current trend of "gender identity" where ppls wants to be identified as something they're not born with and gets angry if they were called upon by their birth. (which is funny, cause "real life" Gay/ Trans/ genderbend is banned in China, where the uncen versions is obtained from, so they probably wanted to avoid calling a person of male origin a "girl" in the chinese subs)

CR apparently doesn't care and just goes with the real translates.

Too bad no one's going to rip and swap the subs from CR into the Uncen version, LOL.

BetaMaleUltra said:
Yeah just realized that today... I decided to get crunchyroll again for awhile because most of this season's anime are on there- besides of course a handful which are on hidive, which in that case I head to my favourite free anime streaming site. And there I decided to watch Onimai there as well instead of crunchyroll today because why the heck not. And lo and behold, "censored" and "uncensored". Dammit. Did I just watch 5 episodes of the censored version? The thing is, it already seemed pretty uncensored to me... unless it involves the removal of entire shots.

However if it is indeed pretty much the same, then I guess it doesn't matter. I'll watch episode 6 as the "uncensored" version today, and see if it feels more, extreme.

edit: ok so apart from a bit more steam in the shower, pretty much the same. HOWEVER, a very important shot involving Miyo can not be found crunchyroll's version. 

MadanielFL said:
It's funny how all the same people who were attacking and harrassing the translator a couple of weeks ago, are now praising the SAME translator for including "cute and funny" in the subs

Ah anime fans, never change

Rachiba said:
Although the uncensored one has almost the same dialogue on that scene (at least on 9anime.to)

ExtendedRenegade said:
Because this is the only topic that discusses the censorship involved in this show, and because the facts of the situation are scattered all over the place in these three pages, here's what the deal is with this show and its censorship for those who are trying to get info.

Yes, the version Crunchyroll streams is censored. Similar to what happened with Mushoku Tensei S2 E0, these changes were made by the studio themselves. All versions of the show, regardless of region and/or platform, have these alterations as it is the only version they licensed out overseas. Only the Japanese releases do not have the alterations.

This censored version is not a Japanese public broadcast version. AFAIK, there was no "less censored" version made in Japan; all versions in Japan are the same, public, AT-X, blu ray, whatever, it's all the same version. The version they're licensing out overseas is a more censored version of that release.

I'm no fan of Crunchyroll, especially not now considering they're a Sony company. But this doesn't seem to be on them, not when every other unrelated platform in the world outside of Japan is getting the same censored version. Bind seems to have a pattern with this kind of thing; they started with (I think) one episode from Mushoku Tensei S1 being censored outside of Japan, then this show, now Mushoku Tensei S2 E0.

Yuri_Niji said:
I’m hoping we do get the uncensored version. There is literally nothing to censor in the first place

Jaywatts03 said:
as far as I know. I’m not sure about eromanga sensei but shinmai gets away with it easily due to art style. On paper fictional character ages don’t matter unless the character is a loli or shota character. If they look old then they don’t have legal issues