| In a recent interview, J.K. Rowling admitted that her sales are only growing after the recent media scandals about her work or views. According to her, she also became disillusioned with modern politics and culture, stating that she expected that "her daughters would live in a perfect world for women when she reached the age of her mother, but in the end the attitude towards women only got worse." She also indirectly denied the accusation that she was TERF, in fact hinting that she considers radical feminism as harmful as any radical ideologies in general. Do you believe in Rowling's words and what do you think of her current take on all the pop culture controversy surrounding her? How do you feel about her work and has your attitude towards it changed after all these events? https://suzannemoore.substack.com/p/an-exclusive-interview-with-jk-rowling |
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| mainly the terminally online get regularly riled up by JK rowling, and even then they can't do shit because she's one of the most unstoppable social media supervillains and her haters absolutely thirst after her replies and can't wait to see what her next take is, they don't even want to see her disappear or want to change her views anymore. they just use her as an online lightning rod for their hatred and she tanks it pretty well. but in any case harry potter won't stop selling because in the real world not many people care enough to even know or follow any controversy surrounding JK rowling and just see harry potter as a great series of books for their kids to read. it's deeply rooted in pop culture now and those who are learning english as a second language read harry potter alongside materials and lessons because her writing is accessible. also during the onset and progression of the pandemic - sales for harry potter went up because everyone was reading a lot more due to being stuck inside lol do you think anyone will care to think about GRRM when he finishes a song of ice and fire? that's how the average citizen thinks, they'll consume the product until completion and then move onto the next product. they're not going to eternally follow the life of JK because they don't have a stake in it anymore. that's also partly why she's unstoppable, she's set out and finished her book series already, most people have moved on and only know her for harry potter which they'll be happy to raise their kids on if they enjoyed it |
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| Rowling is an example of why cancel culture is mostly petty bullshit, and she's one of the few that has gotten richer from it, similar to Chappelle. |
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| I guess it turns out that a minority of perennially angry internet loons don't actually have much impact on anything. |
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| Do I believe she's making more money than ever? Sure. Do I believe her sayings she's not a TERF... well I mean her words and actions over the last several years mean more than her claiming she's not. I still like Harry Potter, the books and movies were something I looked forward to as a kid, I wouldn't buy her products now though. I'm the type of person who puts my money where my mouth is. I haven't supported Pokemon despite loving the games and all because I didn't agree with how they treated the games since the start of the Switch era. Even if it doesn't matter because the games sell better every time a new one comes out, it would be hypocritical for me to consume them while arguing how badly they need to improve. |
| I always found it funny that people call her a TERF. My experiences with TERF have been them trying to get the men in their lives to murder me and threaten to castrate me and all that. I think the "Trans exclusionary RADICAL feminists" are different. Rowling is more a TEF lol. |
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| Monetize your haters, as the saying goes. I don't really care for her, honestly. Not because she made Dumbledore gay or whatever. It's just that I haven't given a shit about Harry Potter since the fourth movie, and to me, that's the only real value she has provided, outside of just being someone on the internet who occasionally gets into controversy. |
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RobertBobert said: In a recent interview, J.K. Rowling admitted that her sales are only growing after the recent media scandals about her work or views. According to her, she also became disillusioned with modern politics and culture, stating that she expected that "her daughters would live in a perfect world for women when she reached the age of her mother, but in the end the attitude towards women only got worse." She also indirectly denied the accusation that she was TERF, in fact hinting that she considers radical feminism as harmful as any radical ideologies in general. Do you believe in Rowling's words and what do you think of her current take on all the pop culture controversy surrounding her? How do you feel about her work and has your attitude towards it changed after all these events? https://suzannemoore.substack.com/p/an-exclusive-interview-with-jk-rowling She spoke the truth and supported people who said men can not change into women and a minority of people hated her for it. I am glad the attempt to cancel her has failed. |
_Nette_ said: I always found it funny that people call her a TERF. My experiences with TERF have been them trying to get the men in their lives to murder me and threaten to castrate me and all that. I think the "Trans exclusionary RADICAL feminists" are different. Rowling is more a TEF lol. Well, one of her scandals was that the femminist store she advertised, which was owned by one of her friends, was selling TERF merch. |
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| It's cuz the people that grew up with Harry Potter are now buying the books and movies for their own kids. Of course these people are different from the ones cancelling her on Twitter, considering Twitter users will never find anyone to breed with. |
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| I don’t really get why she keeps getting spotlight. _Nette_ said: I always found it funny that people call her a TERF. My experiences with TERF have been them trying to get the men in their lives to murder me and threaten to castrate me and all that. I think the "Trans exclusionary RADICAL feminists" are different. Rowling is more a TEF lol. You sure? Because They from what ive seen of people like that online they almost always have no men in their lives at least not a boyfriend anyway. The radical part references radical changes to society primarily in relation to gender roles not “radical” as a synonym for extremist. I’ve also found many who act the way you describe aren’t even ”radical” feminists by that correct meaning because they support strict notions of gender norms around how a woman should look because if they don’t look girly enough they will accuse them of being a tranny even though they are a cis female. |
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traed said: I don’t really get why she keeps getting spotlight. _Nette_ said: I always found it funny that people call her a TERF. My experiences with TERF have been them trying to get the men in their lives to murder me and threaten to castrate me and all that. I think the "Trans exclusionary RADICAL feminists" are different. Rowling is more a TEF lol. You sure? Because They from what ive seen of people like that online they almost always have no men in their lives at least not a boyfriend anyway. The radical part references radical changes to society primarily in relation to gender roles not “radical” as a synonym for extremist. I’ve also found many who act the way you describe aren’t even ”radical” feminists by that correct meaning because they support strict notions of gender norms around how a woman should look because if they don’t look girly enough they will accuse them of being a tranny even though they are a cis female. You reminded me of the joke that gay shippers are sometimes even more picky about human sexuality than straw homophobes. In fact, you will be surprised how much offensive and filled with prejudice those who formally have to fight them. Suffice it to recall the "anti-racists" who make scandals due to the fact that the actress is "not black enough" for the role. |
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vdh said: That's not really that surprising. Some people label lesbians who don't want to suck "girl"dick as TERFs. I was called transphobic when I said that two biological girls' relationships are technically lesbian even if one of them identifies as a guy. |
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Felori said: Ah look how great, bashing on people, who just seek medical treatment and safety in society, gives her even more fame. This treatment and safety must necessarily include the refusal to use the word "woman"? |
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Felori said: RobertBobert said: This treatment and safety must necessarily include the refusal to use the word "woman"? Nobody ever did that, she made that up to gain sympathy from radical feminists. When people talk about "assigned female at birth" they (including me) mean people who are most likely genetically female and have an uterus, but are non-binary or trans men. I'm not female, but you know, I've been perceived as gemale and my uterus won't sisappear either (unfortunately). I don't believe you're unaware that the entire controversy started with her mocking the attempt to refer to women as "menstruating people" out of fear that an indirect reminder of a man's lack of periods might upset trans people. |
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| I was never a fan of her, way before her twitter shenanigans. But neither do I believe she's some cartoony evil person twitter users make her be. My only take on JKR is that she doesn't know when to stop and is pretty talented in fucking up the fictional world she created. And sucks as a script writer. Gotta feed the fans and get that money I guess. Sort of amusing. I will never forget the great idea of students shitting their robes in hallways before muggle born students brought toilets to hogwarts. |
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| I only know her as the author of Harry Potter series, which I enjoyed. It's perfectly fine if she has her own political leanings, we all do to some degree. Maybe most of the outrage comes from western twitter users, people who have nothing to do but being outraged at anything and everything. |
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konkelo said: I will never forget the great idea of students shitting their robes in hallways before muggle born students brought toilets to hogwarts. I think about that tweet a lot. That and the time she retroactively made Dumbledore gay to seem inclusive. She got clowned on way more for her adding pointless lore to a finished story than her views. |
| I think she's a great author and that's what I care mostly about honestly... Like her new detective story which I plan to read this christmas. Controversies are everywhere, but I don't care about such things since they come and go. |
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Felori said: RobertBobert said: I don't believe you're unaware that the entire controversy started with her mocking the attempt to refer to women as "menstruating people" out of fear that an indirect reminder of a man's lack of periods might upset trans people. Yes and that was stupid. She's master in portraying herself as a victim for her own dumb actions. That was an article about hygiene products for periods and since then she and her radical feminists went hysterical about it and pretend like it's now forbidden to say women. They are also not only have paranoia towards trans women and hatred for trans men as "traitors", they are also the worst misandrist, who pretend that every man on earth is aggressive and wants to rape them. I got some hate messages from terfs on Twitter without ever interacting with them before because I have they-pronouns on my profile. I mean what else should I do than just blocking them, but they are just a bunch of spiteful individuals. If at some point we stopped talking about Rowling and started talking about radical feminists, then you should know that I despise radical feminists just as I despise any radical fans of any ideology. And it also doesn't change the fact that dropping gender terminology just because the trans community feels salty about it is one of the most bullshit things I've ever heard. I respect the right of people to identify with another gender, as well as to change gender. This is none of my business. But everything has its limits, especially when it starts to harm other protected communities. I, too, was attacked by various "progressive" activists. According to your logic, this should make all my accusations and complaints against them legitimate? |
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Verthandi11 said: Felori said: forgive if this is offensive but do terfs harass non-binary ppl too, not just trans ppl?Yes and that was stupid. She's master in portraying herself as a victim for her own dumb actions. That was an article about hygiene products for periods and since then she and her radical feminists went hysterical about it and pretend like it's now forbidden to say women. They are also not only have paranoia towards trans women and hatred for trans men as "traitors", they are also the worst misandrist, who pretend that every man on earth is aggressive and wants to rape them. I got some hate messages from terfs on Twitter without ever interacting with them before because I have they-pronouns on my profile. I mean what else should I do than just blocking them, but they are just a bunch of spiteful individuals. TERF feuds primarily with trans women because they see them as "fake women" and covert predators and trans men because they often perceive them as lesbians or weak women who have abandoned femininity due to societal pressures. I don't know about non-binary people. |
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Verthandi11 said: RobertBobert said: as far as i know, maneki is non-binary not trans hence my question. but what do i know abt labels anyway, who caresTERF feuds primarily with trans women because they see them as "fake women" and covert predators and trans men because they often perceive them as lesbians or weak women who have abandoned femininity due to societal pressures. I don't know about non-binary people. As far as I know, non-binary people are also considered trans if you use the word in a broad sense. |
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T3NLTD said: Also black Hermione. My issue isn't if some reader imagines Hermione as black, nor the fact they hired black actresses to play her in Cursed child stage plays. My issue is JKR again doing her bs when we all know Hermione is her self-insert character, and when it comes to other characters she doesn't hold back telling how she imagines them to look. Plus one random side character Jewish when asked about it, and that's his "role". Because he has like only one line in whole book series.konkelo said: I will never forget the great idea of students shitting their robes in hallways before muggle born students brought toilets to hogwarts. I think about that tweet a lot. That and the time she retroactively made Dumbledore gay to seem inclusive. She got clowned on way more for her adding pointless lore to a finished story than her views. |
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konkelo said: T3NLTD said: Also black Hermione. My issue isn't if some reader imagines Hermione as black, nor the fact they hired black actresses to play her in Cursed child stage plays. My issue is JKR again doing her bs when we all know Hermione is her self-insert character, and when it comes to other characters she doesn't hold back telling how she imagines them to look. Plus one random side character Jewish when asked about it, and that's his "role". Because he has like only one line in whole book series.I think about that tweet a lot. That and the time she retroactively made Dumbledore gay to seem inclusive. She got clowned on way more for her adding pointless lore to a finished story than her views. Oh man, Rowling has never been a saint. It is especially ironic to see her fan base in Russia, a country that she sincerely hates and whose defeat in various competitions she openly rejoices. But in this case, I am guided by the thesis "Plato is my friend, but the truth is dearer." |
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| At this point I think her legacy's gonna be similar to HP Lovecraft's. Everyone will still remember her work fondly and acknowledge it as being seminal but people will likely have trouble reconciling that with her bigotry. Same thing with Orson Scott Card. |
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RobertBobert said: I'm not sure is there any group she at one point wouldn't have angered or at least sounded so out of touch from reality. I remember she angered her own fans whose favorite character is Malfoy, because she said it's unhealthy to like him or whatever at some interview because he's a bully and has no redeemable qualities expect in the Cursed child he has changed, pick your mind already creator. Granted what I know she is good guy to get along and isn't disrespectful in your face. Maybe she just likes her own voice too much.konkelo said: Also black Hermione. My issue isn't if some reader imagines Hermione as black, nor the fact they hired black actresses to play her in Cursed child stage plays. My issue is JKR again doing her bs when we all know Hermione is her self-insert character, and when it comes to other characters she doesn't hold back telling how she imagines them to look. Plus one random side character Jewish when asked about it, and that's his "role". Because he has like only one line in whole book series. Oh man, Rowling has never been a saint. It is especially ironic to see her fan base in Russia, a country that she sincerely hates and whose defeat in various competitions she openly rejoices. But in this case, I am guided by the thesis "Plato is my friend, but the truth is dearer." Damn I have such a love-hate relationship with HP franchise lmao. I could rant for an hour especially about the newer lore and how awful it is. Ah well at least I get to see this trainwreck. |
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