| because a Japanese Vinnie "The Fish" Montoya isn't even half as Endearing and/or Titillating as even a plain-jane, garden-variety Rei Ayanami archetype. Well, at least not to most folks out there, anyway... |
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| That's what I've been wondering as well. I guess other countries just have more interesting criminal underworlds to draw stories from. EDIT: Although there are a lot of good japanese live action films so that theory goes out of the window. Maybe it's because violence just works better in live action. |
Theo1899Nov 13, 2022 8:06 AM
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| Maybe they just dont find it to be profitable idk. I find it really sad because crime dramas are really fun and having more of those in anime would be good. |
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| JoJo Part 5 is a an amazing Italian mafia story. |
| I wouldn't even call Jormungand a mafia series. They're arms dealers. Yes, one of Koko's crew is an ex-driver for, presumably, Italian mafiosos, and there are one or more episodes which feature some mafia outfit as prospective buyers and side characters, but it isn't really the focus. Technically you could say it's an organized crime-centric series since they're undoubtedly running afoul of some national and international laws and statutes and involved in shady black market dealings bridging the gap between various state actors and the private sector, but it's really more military than mafia series (in contrast to Black Lagoon) and they're like a rogue section of the military industrial complex. Most of her crew are also military veterans. |
Howdym8 said: The first thing in everyone's mind is going to be just Black Lagoon which shows you that there is a serious lack of mafia anime. I wanted to find more of them but there really isn't. It's just very few, Phantom Requiem and Jormungand, that's it. On the other hand, there are endless of same ecchi fantasy if you're hoping to find one the same as the show you enjoyed. Why? Agreed, and rarely from japanese mafia. You also forgot Baccano!, which tells stories of italian-american groups. |
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| The organized crime theme tag has 64 entries, although most of the anime entries about yakuza are mainly comedy anime, because those have wider appeal. Series like Gokudolls and Hinamatsuri are quite funny though. I guess there are some serious stories about mafia though, like 91 Days, Akagi also has Yakuza in it but, is mainly about illegal Mahjong games. The most serious depiction of Japanese yakuza is the Saezuru Tori wa Habatakanai: The Clouds Gather boys love movie, I don't think this series is in your ballpark though. I guess Akiba Meido Sensou airing this season is also a pretty serious yakuza story, but just with maids instead of yakuza, with the story basically just being Yakuza 1 the video game. Edit: Also Baccano as the above user mentioned. Forgot to mention Gangsta. |
KumiveneellaNov 13, 2022 9:28 AM
| ig it depends on what is deemed tasteful for japanese viewers and i dont think one of the friendliest countries in the world wants to be reminded of having one of the most dangerous gangs in the world x3 |
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| This is straight from Wikipedia, second paragraph in the introduction: "At their height, the yakuza maintained a large presence in the Japanese media and operated internationally. At their peak in the early 1960s, police estimated that the yakuza had a membership of more than 200,000.[6] However, this number has drastically dropped, a decline attributed to changing market opportunities and several legal and social developments in Japan which discourage the growth of yakuza membership.[7] The yakuza still regularly engage in an array of criminal activities and many Japanese citizens still remain fearful of the threat these individuals pose to their safety.[8] There remains no strict prohibition on yakuza membership in Japan today, although much legislation has been passed by the Japanese government aimed at impeding revenue and increasing liability for criminal activities.[8]" If people are fearful of them still, then it would be in poor taste or unprofitable to make such an anime depending on how you portray them. In addition, these studious likely don't want to be recognized as the studio that introduced one of the shames of Japan to the wider world, nor be the yakuza's advertisement. This is all speculation on my part reading the paragraph quoted here. I suspect a small part of the reason why "The House Husband" was picked up was because Netflix don't have such qualms but this might be really wrong. |
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| They're trying to cut down on crimes, don't want kids growing up causing trouble trying to be yakuza. Yakuza these days are much less violent and rather pull con jobs like ore Ore phone scams, marriage fraud etc.. Hong Kong, Chinese and Thailand mafias and Indian and Burmese gangs are much more violent and vicious than the yakuza these days.. So black lagoon was set up in a location near Thailand |
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| Simply because making live-action films is more popular than making animated films. |
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| I think yakuza are somewhat common in anime, at least in the ones I watch, but they are often side characters rather than the focus on the story. |
| Nah, my first thought are the Yakuza games which does an amazing job of telling a Yakuza story. So play them? But perhaps anime can be adapted from these, yet they probably won't be as good. So either watch the story cutscenes on YouTube or play the games. |
| Just play the Yakuza games cuz the Yakuza games are mafia. |
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Howdym8 said: Why is there a serious lack of mafia genres given Japan's history with the Yakuza? Howdym8 said: The first thing in everyone's mind is going to be just Black Lagoon which shows you that there is a serious lack of mafia anime. I wanted to find more of them but there really isn't. It's just very few, Phantom Requiem and Jormungand, that's it. On the other hand, there are endless of same ecchi fantasy if you're hoping to find one the same as the show you enjoyed. Why? This is just my personal opinion and theory about this but the modern Yakuza has changed over time as explained by another user in an earlier post. It's basic policy of the yakuza to involves themselves where there is profit to be made, whether it be legal or not. It's been known for quite a while that the pachinko industry has been largely linked to the Anime industry. Since Pachinko basically falls under gambling it's easy to come to the conclusion that it's quite possible that there is some ties between the anime industry and Yakuza organizations. With this said It would be easy to see why there isn't much Anime being produced that would specifically make the Yakuza look bad. All you have to do is look towards contemporary Anime and you will noticed most anime that specifically focuses on the Yakuza pretty much rarely display them in any extremely negative way if at all. As an example you can see "The Yakuza's Guide to Babysitting" only goes as far as to not completely glorify the lifestyle. In fact I don't think I have ever seen any Anime recently that specifically focuses on the Yakuza and targets it as some evil organization nor completely glorifying it's lifestyle. It would be like if suddenly a majority of Chinese Donghua garbage being released each season started glorifying the Triad. Which would never happen. |
ColourWheelNov 15, 2022 5:27 AM
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| Isn't Yakuza featured pretty often in anime? Not as a main focus and mostly for giggles tho. |
ateks said: Isn't Yakuza featured pretty often in anime? Not as a main focus and mostly for giggles tho. Given the fact the OP mentions the example of "Phantom Requiem" and "Jormungand", I think their main focus was on the "Organized Crime" bit especially when dealing with realistic settings. Both examples lay out some pretty serious themes while not strictly focusing on just the Yakuza. Broadly crime in general is looked down upon in Japan and rarely glorified. If my theory is correct about the ties between the Yakuza and the Anime industry, it would make sense there wouldn't be much Anime produced today that strictly focuses on the Yakuza. Especially any that would throw much negative light on any Yakuza organization. So if the industry does inject the Yakuza as a predominant theme in An Anime, they will likely walk a thin line between not making it out as a completely evil organization nor try to glorify it's lifestyle. It's likely the industry would just avoid adopting any light novels or manga that might upset any Yakuza organization. |
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| With a few (short lived) exceptions, all anime production companies are owned and/or controlled by yakuza syndicates: Kadokawa, for example, is the property of the Yamaguchi-gumi family, whereas Sumiyoshi-kai are the major shareholders of Bandai and Genco. The Inagawa-kai family has members in key positions at Nihon Ad. And so on. The companies serve both as money laundering venues and as façades, and secondarily provide ideal punishment grounds for undesired individuals in each organization, who are are forced to work as in between animators. In that context, it is understandable that they do not wish to draw attention to the connection between anime and criminal organizations. You still get the occasional slip, e.g. Hinamatsuri which was in reality an attempt to disrupt the status quo; but that was soon remedied and the culprits summarily dealt with. Source: my vivid imagination.  |
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| Currently airing Akiba Maid War is quite literally a parody of Yakuza. |
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