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Aug 25, 2022 1:31 PM
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What are some examples of this? What series have absolutely ass animation but are carried by fantastic storytelling? What was it about the Animation that made it so bad and the story that made it so good? How much did it actually affect your engagement with that story?

The most recent thing I can think of is Way of the House Husband. It was short, fun and didn't take things too seriously, so I really didn't mind that it was basically a dubbed Manga. I tend to not watch series that offend me visually so I don’t really have any other examples beyond that.

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Aug 25, 2022 8:56 PM
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Kingdom, in particular for its first two seasons. If you just look at screenshots or clips from the first season in particular, the CGI is abysmal (and almost an insult when you look at how fantastic the manga art is in comparison, especially in battles) and the visuals can look inconsistent too down the line. There are cases where you'll find a character talking animated in bad looking 2D style in one frame and then it just switches to another in CG. The adaptation of the source material isn't perfect but the storytelling and characters are still mostly fantastic in the anime, but it's spoiled by its super cheap and terrible looking visuals and epic battles feel a lot less intense and engaging as a result too. Doesn't help that those ugly battles lack enough blood too for what is supposed to be gruesome overall. The poor animation is generally why there's barely any attention towards this anime on this site despite how critically acclaimed the manga is. I still thought the first season was decent for me because of how amazing the content/writing is, but I did feel so disappointed and sometimes sick of just looking at it.

It's improved generally though in a lot of ways in the 3rd and 4th season, but it still doesn't hit the high peaks that the manga's art has. At least it's palatable now and even the CG doesn't look bad when it's used solely in shots where thousands of soldiers are involved. Just a shame that there's 70+ episodes of a visual barrier for the average anime watcher to consider when jumping into this series to get to those later seasons.
Aug 25, 2022 9:07 PM
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Currently airing Biscuit Hammer..
Aug 26, 2022 2:19 AM
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91 Days I guess?

I mean its not bad animation persay, but its not that well animated. However it is competently directed with a lot of emphasis on "show, don't tell" and characters that you end up rooting for in the end.

Vinland Saga's animation also wasn't that good, especially compared to WIT's other anime.
Aug 26, 2022 2:42 AM
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Kumo desu ga, nani ka. Heard the studio got bankrupt in the middle of animating it. The latter half is mostly CGI. What an amazing anime it would have been otherwise....
Aug 26, 2022 2:47 AM
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Great Teacher Onizuka definitely.
Aug 26, 2022 2:56 AM
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I don't remember how was the animation itself, but at least the visual style of Alderamin on the Sky was dog water.

What light novel had:


What we got in anime:


If anybody knows why this happened, I would gladly hear about.
Aug 26, 2022 2:58 AM
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I would definitely go with Berserk

Excellent story, good character but none of the studios have adapted it properly except the 90's version which is pretty good compared to the modern cgi shit
Aug 26, 2022 3:14 AM
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Kingdom Season 1

Look at this incredible piece of animation

Aug 26, 2022 3:22 AM

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Lots of people don't like Yuasa's animation
If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time.

Watch more movies, please.

Perhaps, this is hell.
Aug 26, 2022 3:24 AM

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Katou81 said:
Kingdom Season 1

Look at this incredible piece of animation


Man... wish real life could look this good

Aug 26, 2022 3:34 AM

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I immediately thought of 'Miss Kuroitsu from the monster development department', aired this winter.
I won't say the story is great, but it's really solid, the characters are well established, and though it's a comedy, it's enjoyable even if you don't find it funny.
It has horrible animation though, especially later on in the show. Not 'Seven deadly sins season 3' bad, but for something that looked decent, it's really dissapointing.
Aug 26, 2022 3:34 AM
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Berserk, kingdom, Inuyashiki, 7 Seeds, Ajin, Dorohedoro, BLAME!, King of Thorn, Gokushufudou, One Piece.. ( Most of them are cgi) great stories & ironically the manga's art is so good
Aug 26, 2022 3:37 AM

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https://myanimelist.net/anime/36873/Back_Street_Girls__Gokudolls
https://myanimelist.net/anime/43692/Gokushufudou
https://myanimelist.net/anime/37979/Mahou_Shoujo_Tokushusen_Asuka

Especially salty about the last one, because the first two are just comedies, and the garbage animation makes it funnier...
The anime actually makes the anime paced better, but oh boi, does it look bad,
Aug 26, 2022 3:39 AM

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I guess Kotaro Lives Alone does not really have bad animation but strange character design.
Aug 26, 2022 3:39 AM

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Katou81 said:
Kingdom Season 1

Look at this incredible piece of animation


Honestly, this isn't even bad compared to some of the other scenes--I dropped Kingdom because there were scenes that made my eyes hurt trying to watch them.

Poyo.
Aug 26, 2022 3:46 AM

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Bidoof_PMD-EOS said:
I immediately thought of 'Miss Kuroitsu from the monster development department', aired this winter.
I won't say the story is great, but it's really solid, the characters are well established, and though it's a comedy, it's enjoyable even if you don't find it funny.
It has horrible animation though, especially later on in the show. Not 'Seven deadly sins season 3' bad, but for something that looked decent, it's really dissapointing.

I didn't expect anyone else to have watched it, but animation being a critique of all things?
It's not Violet Evergarden, but it's a solid above average...
Aug 26, 2022 3:49 AM

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Phosphophyllita said:
Lots of people don't like Yuasa's animation

Oh god, that...
Devilman Crybaby actually looked good though. Half the time.
Aug 26, 2022 4:05 AM

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JaniSIr said:
Bidoof_PMD-EOS said:
I immediately thought of 'Miss Kuroitsu from the monster development department', aired this winter.
I won't say the story is great, but it's really solid, the characters are well established, and though it's a comedy, it's enjoyable even if you don't find it funny.
It has horrible animation though, especially later on in the show. Not 'Seven deadly sins season 3' bad, but for something that looked decent, it's really dissapointing.

I didn't expect anyone else to have watched it, but animation being a critique of all things?
It's not Violet Evergarden, but it's a solid above average...

The part I remember the most for this is the ending of episode 10, with the idol performance. In any other show with a performance I recall watching, there's a lot more 'motion', but more importantly, more than 2 diffenrent dance moves. The art looks good, but the animation is 'lazy'.
Edit: Cut the double quotation.
Aug 26, 2022 4:20 AM

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JaniSIr said:
https://myanimelist.net/anime/36873/Back_Street_Girls__Gokudolls
https://myanimelist.net/anime/43692/Gokushufudou
https://myanimelist.net/anime/37979/Mahou_Shoujo_Tokushusen_Asuka

Especially salty about the last one, because the first two are just comedies, and the garbage animation makes it funnier...
The anime actually makes the anime paced better, but oh boi, does it look bad,


Ah yes, the karambit waifu show. Asuka is definetely a top tier waifu material.
Aug 26, 2022 4:40 AM

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Bidoof_PMD-EOS said:
JaniSIr said:

I didn't expect anyone else to have watched it, but animation being a critique of all things?
It's not Violet Evergarden, but it's a solid above average...

The part I remember the most for this is the ending of episode 10, with the idol performance. In any other show with a performance I recall watching, there's a lot more 'motion', but more importantly, more than 2 diffenrent dance moves. The art looks good, but the animation is 'lazy'.
Edit: Cut the double quotation.

Most idol shows switch to Bad CG to do the dancing performance.
This is better than those.
Aug 26, 2022 4:55 AM

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LainToast said:
Berserk, kingdom, Inuyashiki, 7 Seeds, Ajin, Dorohedoro, BLAME!, King of Thorn, Gokushufudou, One Piece.. ( Most of them are cgi) great stories & ironically the manga's art is so good


So by your logic cgi=bad animation?
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Aug 26, 2022 5:18 AM
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Scavendgarr said:
LainToast said:
Berserk, kingdom, Inuyashiki, 7 Seeds, Ajin, Dorohedoro, BLAME!, King of Thorn, Gokushufudou, One Piece.. ( Most of them are cgi) great stories & ironically the manga's art is so good


So by your logic cgi=bad animation?


No, the post asked the reason why the animation was bad, that's why i said most of them are cgi referring to bad cgi of course like berserk and King of Thorn, there are many good anime with cgi like houseki no Kuni and beastars but it's quite rare. And i obviously inserted titles with bad cgi only.
Aug 26, 2022 7:00 AM

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SkyfallStar said:
JaniSIr said:
https://myanimelist.net/anime/36873/Back_Street_Girls__Gokudolls
https://myanimelist.net/anime/43692/Gokushufudou
https://myanimelist.net/anime/37979/Mahou_Shoujo_Tokushusen_Asuka

Especially salty about the last one, because the first two are just comedies, and the garbage animation makes it funnier...
The anime actually makes the anime paced better, but oh boi, does it look bad,


Ah yes, the karambit waifu show. Asuka is definetely a top tier waifu material.

I prefer to call it the PTSD waifu show, but yes.
Aug 26, 2022 8:16 AM
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I would say the polar opposite of this question is Makoto Shinkai.

Serious: probably Touch, even though that didn't diminish its enjoyment at all.
Aug 26, 2022 12:38 PM

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MrSpenfo said:
Katou81 said:
Kingdom Season 1

Look at this incredible piece of animation


Honestly, this isn't even bad compared to some of the other scenes--I dropped Kingdom because there were scenes that made my eyes hurt trying to watch them.



Dropping Kingdom is the biggest mistake of your life my dude
Aug 26, 2022 12:42 PM

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kingdom for sure. reminds me of ajin in a way in how its unsettling to first watch. xD
Aug 26, 2022 12:47 PM

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probably aku no hana. the animation is fucking atrocious but the story is good
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Katou81 said:
MrSpenfo said:

Honestly, this isn't even bad compared to some of the other scenes--I dropped Kingdom because there were scenes that made my eyes hurt trying to watch them.



Dropping Kingdom is the biggest mistake of your life my dude

Nah, I was at risk of going blind from that garbage. Blame the trash-ass adaptation, not the consumer who isn't willing to put up with it.
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Aug 26, 2022 2:53 PM

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Piromysl said:
Currently airing Biscuit Hammer..


Read the manga, its great. The art good too.
Aug 26, 2022 3:01 PM
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Ginga Nagareboshi Gin is the first thing that came to my mind.
Aug 26, 2022 4:29 PM

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Aku no Hana: Great story, lousy animation.
Aug 26, 2022 4:59 PM

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I'm watching gilgamesh now, and it's one of the ugliest thing I've laid my eyes on. At least it's better than Kemonozume, especially when it comes to story.
Aug 26, 2022 5:24 PM

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World Trigger S1 comes to mind. Toei is lucky that the fights are good because of the strategy and not because of the flashiness, so it’s still a decent adaptation.




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Aug 26, 2022 5:33 PM
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Initial D First stage and pretty much the rest but they aren't as good as stage one
Aug 26, 2022 5:38 PM

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I think Angel Beats could have benefitted from more dynamic fight scenes

I know they weren't the main focus of the story, but they got into a battle almost every episode and it felt repetitive when every fight was handled with handguns and grenades
We had characters like Noda and Shiina with more traditional weapons, but we barely got to see them in action
Aug 26, 2022 6:37 PM

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Some people would probably say ping pong the animation.

I find its rough artstyle and animation charming though, which fits in neatly with the theme of the show.

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LainToast said:
Scavendgarr said:


So by your logic cgi=bad animation?


No, the post asked the reason why the animation was bad, that's why i said most of them are cgi referring to bad cgi of course like berserk and King of Thorn, there are many good anime with cgi like houseki no Kuni and beastars but it's quite rare. And i obviously inserted titles with bad cgi only.

How do you consider Dorohedoro to be bad though? It should be grouped with the good cgi.
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Dorohedoro's problem isn't really the cgi but compared to the manga the animation is terrible, i feel like the animators didn't understand the world of dorohedoro, if you watch the anime & then switch to the manga the atmosphere will completely shift while maintaining the same comedic tone.
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Dorohedoro's problem isn't really the cgi but compared to the manga the animation is terrible, i feel like the animators didn't understand the world of dorohedoro, if you watch the anime & then switch to the manga the atmosphere will completely shift while maintaining the same comedic tone.

I read the manga and I didn't notice any problems. Also, can you please elaborate on what you mean by "compared to the manga the animation is terrible"?
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EndlessMaria said:
LainToast said:
@EndlessMaria

Dorohedoro's problem isn't really the cgi but compared to the manga the animation is terrible, i feel like the animators didn't understand the world of dorohedoro, if you watch the anime & then switch to the manga the atmosphere will completely shift while maintaining the same comedic tone.

I read the manga and I didn't notice any problems. Also, can you please elaborate on what you mean by "compared to the manga the animation is terrible"?


The manga has great art & paneling and the overall aesthetic is its main appeal. The artistic direction of Q Hayashida affects the overall narrative . The structure of the story depends on visual narration and presents its world & characters through the author's aesthetic & visuals. The paneling is also important for understanding how the story moves itself, the shots & angles align the pieces of the story and how it should be experienced . The color palette is a mix of bright & darkish tones to balance the humorous & violent nature of dorohedoro. The atmosphere is mainly dark humour with mystery elements and horror. The Anime butchered all of that and used bad artistic direction & visual tools. The cgi is decent but it simply doesn't fit. Just compare the first panel ( kaiman biting on matsumura's head) to the Anime version. It says a lot. These elements are quite significant for every story and they change a lot. Although the casual reader / watcher won't usually pay attention to these details, it is still an important & valuable factor for setting the fundamental layout of the story & impacting the audience’s experience.

The Anime did a great job on the backgrounds, voice acting and sounds, but it failed to create a visual theme and changed the chaotic beauty of Dorohedoro. I truly like to pay attention to the artistic direction of authors i read and it personally impacts my experience, and i find it disappointing how the story is handled because it could have been much better, especially if you are an anime watcher only. I hope I have explained it clearly & I apologize for the length.
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I'm currently watching GTO and imo it fits the bill

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