| People definitely inflate average scores, maybe to err on the generous side so not to be judged for not liking something? So maybe people might be projecting that on your scores for whatever reason...But at the same time, 7/10 is like 3.5 stars and I would feel kinda insulted if a movie box cover advertised its value with only 3.5 stars lmao |
| Because people genuinely feel bad for giving anime appropriate ratings. It's rather sad. People have the incorrect view that 7 is a low number because in the aggregate of scores it's relatively low, which are supposed to be based on individual scores, but that's been messed up since so many people incorrectly give scores in-line with or based on the aggregate score instead of their own individual rating. It also causes a rating inflation when 7, strictly meant to represent good, becomes the benchmark for bad. The benchmark for bad, because of this, has only been increasing and will continue to so long as people do this. People opt for their own scoring system while ignoring the one MAL has because most people, i assume, awkwardly feel bad for scoring anime appropriately, and refuse to use the absolute system which already exists. |
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| 7 still good, 5-6 average. if i assume 7 score like seasonal anime without sequel with generic setting meanwhile 8+ seasonal sequel that has unusual interesting concept in it |
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| It's just different grading systems. A lot of people think 7 is "average," similar to a 70 (or C) in a school setting. Average is not necessarily bad, but it implies you're better off looking for a higher rated show. The weird thing imo is how people in MAL treat "7 is average" as the default even though the site literally has its own label for 7. |
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| I'm guessing it's because basically every other rating/grading system for non-anime media uses a 5 or 10 scale that very commonly has worse media below a 7/10 or 3.5/5. Imo school hammered this into people's heads because 70% is considered average and anything below is bad. But I do see your point that it makes other ratings basically meaningless. I personally rate anything that was semi-decent a 5 or 6 with stuff I really enjoyed being a 7 or above. But ultimately everyone has their own preference for how to rate things. Some people give out 10s to anything they enjoyed while others give an ok anime a 4. |
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| Yeah I’d say 7 is good or at least average no matter how you consider each number I mean it’s only 3 numbers away from 10 |
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PhantasistaG said: This would make sense if stories only had correct or incorrect answers. But they don't. If storytelling was like a test with only correct and incorrect answers, you'd be seeing quite a lot of 10s. You actually do see this in people who, with their own personal test for anime, are easy to check off the correct answers for them to give 10s, or other higher ratings because of their lower benchmark. There's nothing wrong with either of these.Sometimes users never give a 10, like "I am reserving a grade". Talk about being too harsh of a critic. Imagine if teachers saw someone answering all the questions in a test right, but because you didn't put extra unexpected work you don't get high grades, that is the feeling when seeing many people giving 7's. |
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| Seriously. I don't view 7 as low or harsh at all, hell i think it's pretty good. For me, it's that "Pretty Good, had no serious flaws but didn't stand out enough" category. |
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| Wait, people say 7 is bad? TheBlockernator said: Thats what it means to me as well. The "it's good, but missing one thing for me to call it truly special" category Seriously. I don't view 7 as low or harsh at all, hell i think it's pretty good. For me, it's that "Pretty Good, had no serious flaws but didn't stand out enough" category. |
| IDK, but for me, if I give a 7 it means it is a "Good, not great, just good enough" work, |
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| I give 7s to stuff I find pretty impressive and enjoyable overall. 8, 9 and 10 are reserved for things I have a special connection to and which have had a more lasting impact. |
| For me 7 is definitely a bad score. I rate things higher than they should because I'm too lazy to categorize things further than enjoyed it, loved it, and impactfully amazing. It's either I enjoyed something and gave it an 8 or I dropped it before even reaching 3 episodes. By that standard if something gets a 7 from me it definitely did something wrong or its just bad. |
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| For some reason MAL scores have become 5-6 is really bad, 6-7 is bad, 7-7.5 is ok, 7.5-8 is good, 8-8.5 is really good, and anything above that is about top 100. I don't rate anime like that nor do I think that's how they should be rated, but that's how you should read the overall MAL scores. |
| I consider 7 to be a very positive score. According to MAL's rating system, a 7 is considered "good," so that's exactly how I use it. If I rated something a 7, I liked it and considered it to be worth my time. A solid anime that I enjoyed watching overall, even if it wasn't anything special. I even liked the majority of my 6s for the most part (6 = "fine"). I don't consider that a bad score, either. |
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| I don't understand them either, to be honest. I'm thinking a lot of those people are anime newbies or people who don't have much experience with entertainment or normies who follow hype trains. Many are brain dead consumers who look at any product and think it's a masterpiece. One other reason I can think for this is the increasing amount of positivity over the years and how we've begun to celebrate and praise mediocrity a lot more as well, leading to people's standards to be lowered significantly and seeing mediocre works as these outstanding diamonds. I've seen more and more people doing this all over the internet. Calling anything they see "absolute masterpieces", "hidden gems", "underrated gems" etc. and these terms have only been seeing more and more usage in recent times. Also controversial take (XD): Hence why Demon Slayer and other slightly average works have seen so much success. Demon Slayer managed to hit the mainstream audience. Who is the mainstream audience consisted of? Normies with hardly any experience with anime or entertainment as a whole. So they are easily impressed; because when you know nothing about something, it generally looks more impressive to you. Like how Nanachi's I played osu!mania for a school talent show video hit the mainstream audience and they thought it was the most impressive shit ever. Don't get me wrong, he's an amazing player (Top 50 in Global Rankings) and the play is impressive, but then you take into consideration that Galaxy Collapse (the map) is a farm map with an over-inflated difficulty rating. Also, people who actually play osu!mania (like me) know that the score isn't anything really mind-blowing (but again, it is impressive) like the audience thinks it is. Same with Jhlee0133's A Fool Moon Night video. It looks insane to a normie but those who actually play the game know it's just vibro patterns that you can easily cheese. But back to Demon Slayer. The normies usually only care about the animation quality and OST (the technical aspects, aka the good part about the show) and pay no mind to the quality of its story, writing or characters. Because of this, they end up thinking that it's the greatest piece of fiction in existence and that anyone who doesn't rate it a 10 is "being too harsh on it", and since Demon Slayer left such a good impression on them, they start to see anime in a very positive light and give high ratings to everything because they don't really have a sense of quality and don't like to think about what makes something genuinely good. |
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| Because those people are fanboys (or fangirls). In the past I've even seen people seriously reporting new users for rating something out of Top 50 as 7. Hurr durr, anybody who rate muh mastapiece below 8 is a troll!!!!111oneone |
There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value. Oil and nuclear are civilisation saviours. Deal with it. |
| 7 by MAL grading system literally means 'good'. 5 is 'average'. MAL scores are super inflated and I've seen people talk about it a ton, where series universally considered bad will only have a score in the low 7s or high 6s, making it 'good' by the site's standards. I've seen some people say that score inflation is possibly because of how the majority of users on MAL are teens and so they score like how schools grade assignments because schools in general look at anything under 70% as not good, but although I can see the reasoning behind it and do think it's a possibility I don't think it's the only reason. I think people are just generally trying to be generous with scores and don't want to outright say an anime they think is bad is bad out of fear of upsetting people who like that anime. I personally use the MAL scoring system like it was intended to. Average for me is a 5/10. 4 is a below average show that has a few redeeming qualities mostly overshadowed by bad ones, and 6 is an above average show that is too flawed for me to call it good. At the end of the day, most people just rate stuff however they want to rate stuff. There's nothing really that others can do about it. If someone thinks series X is a 10/10 show because it mildly entertained them for 12 episodes there's nothing people can do to change that opinion. |
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| I call the ones I rated 7 all genuinely good shows, not great, but definitely worth checking out. Maybe some people get rubbed the wrong way because they love the series and think a 7 is too low despite being a good score? |
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| I cant say I have ever understood this either, if I give a show a 7, that means I enjoyed it a good bit. However I almost never hand out 10s. People do tend to inflate scores and give everything a 9 or 10 if they liked it. This kills any sense of scale though for how much someone did or did not like something. It makes their list look kinda flat for lack of a better term. (Sorry spelling is probably bad somewhere) |
TheAngryNerd said: Sadly, many elitists are just as close-minded and zealous as newbies, and always assume that someone who gave their preciousss 7 or below is nothing but a troll or a blind hater. That include some reviewers.I'm thinking a lot of those people are anime newbies or people who don't have much experience with entertainment or normies who follow hype trains. Many are brain dead consumers who look at any product and think it's a masterpiece. Calling anything they see "absolute masterpieces", "hidden gems", "underrated gems" etc. and these terms have only been seeing more and more usage in recent times. Looks like you haven't read that Featured Articles (lol, like we have ordinary articles) section. Some reviewers boast quite a number of titles under their belt - yet you just can't but be amazed at what sort of utterly mediocre shit they call hidden gems or underrated gems. And that leads us to a logical conclusion: not everyone who seen a lot of anime have a refined taste (that obviously include yours truly). Captain Obvious out. |
| There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value. Oil and nuclear are civilisation saviours. Deal with it. |
| They probably are spicy about u giving lower score to their favorite anime compared to others. And u probably inturn are making the topic more spicy by wording fanboyism topic into nonusage of lower half score dispute topic |
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| 7/10 is definitely not a bad score, for me it means that i can rewatch it once and still like it. some of the ones i give a 6/10 are exceptions to rewatchability value too, since they're okay to entertain me but not THAT good |
| Because some people rate like they're grading a test (no judgement, when I first got into anime I did that too). I actually had to private my list for about a year because I got sick of being harassed about my scores (I rate lower than most, I guess, but personally, I don't think I do). It's stupid how people think it's okay to harass people about THEIR scores. It's called MYanimelist not YOURanimelist so people need to mind their own scores and not stress about other people's. Not everyone is going to feel the exact same as you and your favorite anime is bound to be hated by someone else, just as the anime that YOU hate the most will be loved by someone else. My rating system is simple: 1-3= Absolute garbage and no re-watch value at all 4= lower than average, likely won't re-watch 5= average, maybe slightly forgettable, but if I still enjoyed it then I may re-watch 6= decent. above average. has some re-watch value and I likely enjoyed it despite noticeable flaws 7= good. I liked this one and will undoubtedly re-watch 8= very good. probably a series that I really loved, but had some flaws that kept me from marking it higher. High re-watch value 9= damn near perfect and something I really, really loved. Will definitely re-watch. Likely multiple times 10= as close to perfection as I've found. Seriously high re-watch value (only have 5 with this rating) |
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| i think the fundamental contraction is that people dont experience like fucking calculators, we dont experience things on a numerical scale. if you want me to call something BAD, ill just think, "well its not like its worthless theres something of value in it, theres real spirit lurking there". or ill drop it. and i included all my dropped after 1 ep shows and i STILL have almsot a 6 ;_______________________; and some of the dropped shows i cant in good heart give it a 1 because its actually good, sometimes excellent, in a way im not feeling like watching at whatever time. maybe i will go through my list and REJECT this sort of "rate 1 to 10" logic and use something that makes sense RossoYorozuya said: good post actually the best in thread It's just different grading systems. A lot of people think 7 is "average," similar to a 70 (or C) in a school setting. Average is not necessarily bad, but it implies you're better off looking for a higher rated show. The weird thing imo is how people in MAL treat "7 is average" as the default even though the site literally has its own label for 7. except id say the reason people in MAL treat 7 is average is because, people already have a preconceived notion of numerical scores from reading reviews and such, a label on the dropdown would never change that |
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duchessliz87 said: Wow, that's some crazy stupid shit. Out of curiosity, if you don't mind: what are the shows you get the flack for not rating it as high as humanly possible? Because right now I don't see anything THAT divisive. If it's something you rather not remember - sorry for bothering you. I mostly use MAL just for listing, so I'm not that knowledgeable about recent local trends (I'm on forums now only because it's my vacation and I have some free time).I actually had to private my list for about a year because I got sick of being harassed about my scores (I rate lower than most, I guess, but personally, I don't think I do). |
| There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value. Oil and nuclear are civilisation saviours. Deal with it. |
| In my book 7 is a pretty average score...... |
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| It's because people can't stop thinking in extremes these days. Something is either a masterpiece or it's trash, there is nothing in between. So most peoples logic is 1-7 = trash and 8-10 = masterpiece. This is what happens when you only put like buttons everywhere instead of actual ratings just like MAL did with the new review system recently. |
| In my book a 7 is good, so everything I rated 7 or higher is something I'd recommend. |
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kitsune0 said: duchessliz87 said: Wow, that's some crazy stupid shit. Out of curiosity, if you don't mind: what are the shows you get the flack for not rating it as high as humanly possible? Because right now I don't see anything THAT divisive. If it's something you rather not remember - sorry for bothering you. I mostly use MAL just for listing, so I'm not that knowledgeable about recent local trends (I'm on forums now only because it's my vacation and I have some free time).I actually had to private my list for about a year because I got sick of being harassed about my scores (I rate lower than most, I guess, but personally, I don't think I do). I got harassed for my ratings on AnoHana, Tatami Galaxy, Black Lagoon, Code Geass, Daily Lives of High School Boys, AOT (the reason I refuse to watch beyond the second season. I HATE the fandom soooo much!), etc. I got fed up after an argument with one particular AOT fan who called my taste sh!t because I gave AOT a 6 for the two seasons I watched (like, that's not even a bad rating. IDK WTF is with people like that). So yeah. Those are just the one's that I remember. |
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Nice1baby said: ateks said: What MAL is doing right now with the review system is actually good since its Helping the scores like 7 be considered as "Good" since its actually Part of "Recommended".It's because people can't stop thinking in extremes these days. Something is either a masterpiece or it's trash, there is nothing in between. So most peoples logic is 1-7 = trash and 8-10 = masterpiece. This is what happens when you only put like buttons everywhere instead of actual ratings just like MAL did with the new review system recently. Now if you're just making fun of the like Button then i have no issue. No it's not because now you can only rate things either good or bad instead of 1-10 which is exactly the point I'm talking about. People get dumbed down to only think in extremes instead of grades. |
Kasutoro-Kun said: There's been times where people looked at my list and got mad I gave certain things a seven. But a seven literally means it's good lmao like that's not a bad score whatsoever. But for some reason people think that means it's average for whatever reason. Like if a seven is average to you tf is a 6 5 and 4 and all the ones beneath that? So to you a seven is average and a six is what bad then a five is very bad then a four is very very bad and so on? Lol like it makes no sense to me why people see that number and think it's bad when it's good. People have this strange thing with ratings on here that if it's not an 8 or above then it's a low score. 10 - Masterpiece 9 - Great 8 - Very Good 7 - GOOD 6 - Fine 5 - Average 4 - Bad 3 - Very Bad 2 - Horrible 1 - Appalling There. It is the default scoring system in MAL. If anyone got mad with 7 (which is GOOD) it means they don't follow the MAL rules. Just ignore them. Since this is MAL forum, they are already wrong from the get-go. |
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