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Image for comparison so we know what we are are talking about, not all people in the image are ''natural'' and steroid free but all their body types ad proportions are realistically achievable without any external aid.

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Bodybuilder: everything equal and symmetrical (your vote)
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Femboy: everything smooth and slim with fem proportions (your vote)
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Leiman_Sonozaki said:
Femboy: everything smooth and slim with fem proportions (your vote)


@atlos @kuroava should I add the ''femboy'' bodytype? Do you find heterosexual men with a feminine body to be a major turn on for you? And is such a thing even possible without drugs and hormonal therapy in ADULT men or can there only be underage ''natural'' femboys?

if the femboy body type requires drug aid I'm not gonna add it as an option.
Aug 12, 2022 9:51 AM
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Velsria said:
not all people in the image[b]s[/i] are ''natural'' and steroid free but all their body types ad proportions are realistically achievable without any external aid.

Stop dreaming, all these guys used steroids, and for your average person, achieving such physiques naturally is nigh-on impossible.

They all look ugly by the way, and people like Bruce Lee or Mohammad Ali are much closer to the ideal weight (depending on their height). Nothing more ridiculous than an awkward short (say about 170cm) guy weighting over 100kg.

Edit: add the "athletic physique" option.
Aug 12, 2022 9:52 AM
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@Velsria, well alright.
I guess it may require some shit for some people.
But I have seen to the contrary natural ones.
Aug 12, 2022 9:54 AM
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Velsria said:
Leiman_Sonozaki said:
Femboy: everything smooth and slim with fem proportions (your vote)


@atlos @kuroava should I add the ''femboy'' bodytype? Do you find heterosexual men with a feminine body to be a major turn on for you? And is such a thing even possible without drugs and hormonal therapy in ADULT men or can there only be underage ''natural'' femboys?

if the femboy body type requires drug aid I'm not gonna add it as an option.
Not really sure why you are @ me specifically but whatever, sure and it if you want, it can be possible for someone to look like femboy without drugs

and sure I find femboy's attractive but I'm not straight
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Meusnier said:
Velsria said:
not all people in the image[b]s[/i] are ''natural'' and steroid free but all their body types ad proportions are realistically achievable without any external aid.

Stop dreaming, all these guys used steroids, and for your average person, achieving such physiques naturally is nigh-on impossible.

They all look ugly by the way, and people like Bruce Lee or Mohammad Ali are much closer to the ideal (depending on their height). Nothing more ridiculous than an awkward short (say about 170cm) guy weighting over 100kg.


1) No one in the image is 100kg, they are all at best 15kg above their height= weight or HP +15 which means that a 170cm guy would be 85kg (except bearmode but he's fat)
2) Before the invention of steroids, even before the invention of military steroids people had similar physiques
3) In the picture I have posted only Bearmode and Manta ray are on steroids, Superman is suspicious but the others are confirmed naturals
4) Mohamad ali was bigger than a few guys in the my image
Aug 12, 2022 9:58 AM
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Women love tall men with cute faces without much fat like most k-pop idols. Muscle is not needed much outside a six pack.(look at most shoujo guys)
Aug 12, 2022 9:58 AM

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@meusnier, Also you know what's more ridiculous than a short and stocky guy?

A short and weak guy.

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Women love tall men with cute faces without much fat like most k-pop idols. Muscle is not needed much outside a six pack.


This may be true for underage women, all female sexual fantasy books are based around ridiculously muscular and dominant hairy men.
Try reading some of those books, they make bodybuilders envy.

Also male strippers centered around female clients are roided up beasts with ridiculous ammounts of muscles
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Leiman_Sonozaki said:
Femboy: everything smooth and slim with fem proportions (your vote)


Thats me, my photo is in my MAL blog
I'm happy with my body too
Never like gym lad type of body


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Velsria said:
Meusnier said:

Stop dreaming, all these guys used steroids, and for your average person, achieving such physiques naturally is nigh-on impossible.

They all look ugly by the way, and people like Bruce Lee or Mohammad Ali are much closer to the ideal (depending on their height). Nothing more ridiculous than an awkward short (say about 170cm) guy weighting over 100kg.


1) No one in the image is 100kg, they are all at best 15kg above their height= weight or HP +15 which means that a 170cm guy would be 85kg
2) Before the invention of steroids, even before the invention of military steroids people had similar physiques
3) In the picture I have posted only Bearmode and Manta ray are on steroids, Superman is suspicious but the others are confirmed naturals
4) Mohamad ali was bigger than a few guys in the my image

You are either naïve or ignorant. Muhammad Ali was nowhere as ripped as most of these guys. He was 107kg for 191cm. A 170cm guy weighting 85kg with 8% bodyfat is a Mewtwo...

Even Tobey McGuire who had a very mediocre result in Spider-Man (2002) used those drugs... So you can be sure that the Man of Steel is rather the Man or Steelloids...

What? This Zodd guy definitely used something, be it HGH or God knows what... "Confirmed natural": there is no such thing.

Last, but not least, the physique of people like Eugen Sandow had absolutely nothing to do with those mutants.
Aug 12, 2022 10:08 AM

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@meusnier

This is rougly 30 years before the invetion of steroids, the only things available at the time where methamphetamine and other ''stimulants'' like cocaine, nothing like modern steroids

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Out of those women would prefer the bodybuilder type most of the time but can go for superman too.
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Meusnier said:
Velsria said:


1) No one in the image is 100kg, they are all at best 15kg above their height= weight or HP +15 which means that a 170cm guy would be 85kg
2) Before the invention of steroids, even before the invention of military steroids people had similar physiques
3) In the picture I have posted only Bearmode and Manta ray are on steroids, Superman is suspicious but the others are confirmed naturals
4) Mohamad ali was bigger than a few guys in the my image

You are either naïve or ignorant. Muhammad Ali was nowhere as ripped as most of these guys. He was 107kg for 191cm. A 170cm guy weighting 85kg with 8% bodyfat is a Mewtwo...

Even Tobey McGuire who had a very mediocre result in Spider-Man (2002) used those drugs... So you can be sure that the Man of Steel is rather the Man or Steelloids...

What? This Zodd guy definitely used something, be it HGH or God knows what... "Confirmed natural": there is no such thing.

Last, but not least, the physique of people like Eugen Sandow had absolutely nothing to do with those mutants.


8% ? The only guy below 12% is manta ray and I said he used drugs, Zoddmode is very lightweight and short, he looks tiny with a shirt off and he competes in drug tested events.


The only big guy is Bearmode and even he is lighter than Ali and also fatter than Ali (103kg 21% bodyfat)

philtecturophy said:
Leiman_Sonozaki said:
Femboy: everything smooth and slim with fem proportions (your vote)


Thats me, my photo is in my MAL blog
I'm happy with my body too
Never like gym lad type of body


I remember you being chubby and looking like a potato
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The best bodytype is Anatoly Pisarenko.

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@meusnier

This is rougly 30 years before the invetion of steroids, the only things available at the time where methamphetamine and other ''stimulants'' like cocaine, nothing like modern steroids


His back is not of the size of a hippopotamus, he barely has any pectoral muscles, his arms are well-proportioned (much smaller than Zodd at rest!), nothing to do with your Zodd guy who looks like a Jojo character. I see a human being and a crab, and you tell me that the crab is just like the man. There is so much hypocrisy in bodybuilding, but one needs to sell useless supplements to t*** hard and eat c***...

Next thing will be to tell me about the famous scientific advances on dieting and training. I just call it chemistry.
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I like bears. Add bushy facial hair and that's top tier to me.
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Meusnier said:

His back is not of the size of a hippopotamus, he barely has any pectoral muscles, his arms are well-proportioned (much smaller than Zodd at rest!), nothing to do with your Zodd guy who looks like a Jojo character. There is so much hypocrisy in bodybuilding, but one needs to sell supplements to t*** hard and eat c***...


ok so your idea is that such size is possible but not the proportions? why not? Zoddmode is a non-professional armwrestler, he weights very little and also barely trains the rest of his body.
If he was to have his muscle spread evenly across the rest of his body he'd probably look like he doesn't even train.

Same thing with me, I'm 11kg above my ''healthy weight'' 170cm x 81kg but I look like I barely lift until you see my back and butt, because I bias those areas yet my arms are average and legs too, barely any chest.
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kuroava said:
Velsria said:


@atlos @kuroava should I add the ''femboy'' bodytype? Do you find heterosexual men with a feminine body to be a major turn on for you? And is such a thing even possible without drugs and hormonal therapy in ADULT men or can there only be underage ''natural'' femboys?

if the femboy body type requires drug aid I'm not gonna add it as an option.


Henry Cavill is pretty much my number one crush so... what else would i vote? :p

it is possible but more of an oddity, i never met anyone like me in person but there is pictures of people like me online, natural male with a more of a female bone proportions body


k gonna add those, even if myself I doubt their existance outside of very filtered images
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Velsria said:
Meusnier said:

You are either naïve or ignorant. Muhammad Ali was nowhere as ripped as most of these guys. He was 107kg for 191cm. A 170cm guy weighting 85kg with 8% bodyfat is a Mewtwo...

Even Tobey McGuire who had a very mediocre result in Spider-Man (2002) used those drugs... So you can be sure that the Man of Steel is rather the Man or Steelloids...

What? This Zodd guy definitely used something, be it HGH or God knows what... "Confirmed natural": there is no such thing.

Last, but not least, the physique of people like Eugen Sandow had absolutely nothing to do with those mutants.


8% ? The only guy below 12% is manta ray and I said he used drugs, Zoddmode is very lightweight and short, he looks tiny with a shirt off and he competes in drug tested events.


The only big guy is Bearmode and even he is lighter than Ali and also fatter than Ali (103kg 21% bodyfat)

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Thats me, my photo is in my MAL blog
I'm happy with my body too
Never like gym lad type of body


I remember you being chubby and looking like a potato


No, you mistaken me for someone else, I don't looked like potato. I like to eat potato though


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philtecturophy said:

No, you mistaken me for someone else, I don't looked like potato. I like to eat potato though


Aren't you the guy who made a thread after sending a random dick pic to his girlfriend?
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philtecturophy said:

No, you mistaken me for someone else, I don't looked like potato. I like to eat potato though


Aren't you the guy who made a thread after sending a random dick pic to his girlfriend?


Which one? Is it wrong to send dick pic to gf?


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Honestly none of these. I've never liked overly muscular guys. Just average is my type.
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philtecturophy said:


Which one? Is it wrong to send dick pic to gf?


Very shallow

1) She may think that you see her as a slut
2) She didn't ask for it and wasn't expecting a dick pick
3) She may think that you are a wanker, less online action and fuck her more offline

spaceslut said:
Honestly none of these. I've never liked overly muscular guys. Just average is my type.


What do you mean by average? in 4/5 of the planet average means weak and fat.

Do you have a fetish for beer bellies and hairy guys that smell? cause that's the average...
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Velsria said:


Which one? Is it wrong to send dick pic to gf?


Very shallow

1) She may think that you see her as a slut
2) She didn't ask for it and wasn't expecting a dick pick
3) She may think that you are a wanker, less online action and fuck her more offline

spaceslut said:
Honestly none of these. I've never liked overly muscular guys. Just average is my type.


What do you mean by average? in 4/5 of the planet average means weak and fat.

Do you have a fetish for beer bellies and hairy guys that smell? cause that's the average...
You probably havent seen sheklon, railey2 or cneq but that body type is the sexiest. Unfortunately i'm not among them i'm too skinny :(
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昔からない噂流され
どでもいいこと斬る刃で
今更なんか用? お前誰?
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Do you have a fetish for beer bellies and hairy guys that smell? cause that's the average...
You probably havent seen sheklon, railey2 or cneq but that body type is the sexiest. Unfortunately i'm not among them i'm too skinny :( [/quote]

Six months eating just a little bit more and you'll have a decent body.

@philtecturophy you should probably exercise more
Aug 12, 2022 12:27 PM
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Whichever category Guts fall into…
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Meusnier said:
Velsria said:
not all people in the image[b]s[/i] are ''natural'' and steroid free but all their body types ad proportions are realistically achievable without any external aid.

Stop dreaming, all these guys used steroids, and for your average person, achieving such physiques naturally is nigh-on impossible.

They all look ugly by the way, and people like Bruce Lee or Mohammad Ali are much closer to the ideal weight (depending on their height). Nothing more ridiculous than an awkward short (say about 170cm) guy weighting over 100kg.


"They all look ugly, by the way. 'Tis a pity that while I was studying the blade, they decided to waste so much of their finite worldly time on carnal pursuits such as lifting weights."
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo6qzBxVoAES90f?format=jpg&name=medium
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Depends which one has the biggest dick.
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YAHOOGAYCHATROOM said:
Meusnier said:

Stop dreaming, all these guys used steroids, and for your average person, achieving such physiques naturally is nigh-on impossible.

They all look ugly by the way, and people like Bruce Lee or Mohammad Ali are much closer to the ideal weight (depending on their height). Nothing more ridiculous than an awkward short (say about 170cm) guy weighting over 100kg.


"They all look ugly, by the way. 'Tis a pity that while I was studying the blade, they decided to waste so much of their finite worldly time on carnal pursuits such as lifting weights."
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo6qzBxVoAES90f?format=jpg&name=medium


Made me laugh loud like a psycho because it's not a joke, meusnier is a total weeb nerd who does swordplay and other dorky stuff hahahahahaha!
He's a literal living clichè!

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Whichever category Guts fall into…


He's build like a manta ray but less exagerated

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Depends which one has the biggest dick.


I have.
Aug 12, 2022 1:08 PM
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none of them this looks really unattractive to me... too many muscles and with weird proportions
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Velsria said:


spaceslut said:
Honestly none of these. I've never liked overly muscular guys. Just average is my type.


What do you mean by average? in 4/5 of the planet average means weak and fat.

Do you have a fetish for beer bellies and hairy guys that smell? cause that's the average...

Where are you getting your statistics from? That's not the average. The average is 5'9 and 190lbs. My fiance is 5'8 and 170. Not overly muscular but also not heavy set.
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spaceslut said:

Where are you getting your statistics from? That's not the average. The average is 5'9 and 190lbs. My fiance is 5'8 and 170. Not overly muscular but also not heavy set.


depends, if he has some muscularity and also some fat that's normal weight, but if all his weight comes from the beer belly, well that's withing the fat average.

Keep in mind that your guy is above average, the average guy has either no muscle and is skinny or no muscle and fat.
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YAHOOGAYCHATROOM said:
Meusnier said:

Stop dreaming, all these guys used steroids, and for your average person, achieving such physiques naturally is nigh-on impossible.

They all look ugly by the way, and people like Bruce Lee or Mohammad Ali are much closer to the ideal weight (depending on their height). Nothing more ridiculous than an awkward short (say about 170cm) guy weighting over 100kg.


"They all look ugly, by the way. 'Tis a pity that while I was studying the blade, they decided to waste so much of their finite worldly time on carnal pursuits such as lifting weights."
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo6qzBxVoAES90f?format=jpg&name=medium

Oh, looks like the intellectual toddler got offended, and decided to craft some pitiful ad hominem from his cave. Stay at your place, Cneq#2, and learn how to argue.
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Meusnier said:
YAHOOGAYCHATROOM said:


"They all look ugly, by the way. 'Tis a pity that while I was studying the blade, they decided to waste so much of their finite worldly time on carnal pursuits such as lifting weights."
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo6qzBxVoAES90f?format=jpg&name=medium

Oh, looks like the intellectual toddler got offended, and decided to craft some pitiful ad hominem from his cave. Stay at your place, Cneq#2, and learn how to argue.


Oh com on! it wasn't even an insult... you really are like that, you are all about downplaying muscular guys with your athleticism and sword stuff.
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Meusnier said:

Oh, looks like the intellectual toddler got offended, and decided to craft some pitiful ad hominem from his cave. Stay at your place, Cneq#2, and learn how to argue.


Oh com on! it wasn't even an insult... you really are like that, you are all about downplaying muscular guys with your athleticism and sword stuff.

Think before speaking, and check the gore thread. I have not even talked about swords here... A bunch of drug addicts who pose themselves as "natural athletes" to sell overpriced vitamins should definitely be ridiculed.
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Meusnier said:
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Oh com on! it wasn't even an insult... you really are like that, you are all about downplaying muscular guys with your athleticism and sword stuff.

Think before speaking, and check the gore thread. I have not even talked about swords here... A bunch of drug addicts who pose themselves as "natural athletes" to sell overpriced vitamins should definitely be ridiculed.


That's your problem, you just assume everyone who's bigger than you is an influencer and scammer thus a drug addict.
My guy, big and heavy people existed before social medias :)

You know what the say? The ones to critique are always weaker .....
I don't know what happened in the gore thread, I think you mean the one in CD, haven't touched it cause I get grossed out easily and not gonna touch it.
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Velsria said:
Meusnier said:

Think before speaking, and check the gore thread. I have not even talked about swords here... A bunch of drug addicts who pose themselves as "natural athletes" to sell overpriced vitamins should definitely be ridiculed.


That's your problem, you just assume everyone who's bigger than you is an influencer and scammer thus a drug addict.
My guy, big and heavy people existed before social medias :)

You know what the say? The ones to critique are always weaker .....
I don't know what happened in the gore thread, I think you mean the one in CD, haven't touched it cause I get grossed out easily and not gonna touch it.

Yeah, Arnold existed before social media. What is your point? And it's not "bigger than me," it's "bigger than all pre-1940 athletes."

POW: 99% of pro-bodybuilders and all "CrossFit" athletes are on drugs.
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Meusnier said:

POW: 99% of pro-bodybuilders and all "CrossFit" athletes are on drugs.


Yeah sure we can agree on that, but it doesn't mean their appearance per se can't be obtained without drugs.

There was a study saying that naturally it is possible to achieve a maximum of 0.7kg of muscle mass per every 1cm of height at elite levels but half of that is still very realistic as most sumo wrestlers have and had similar amounts of muscle muscle.

so a guy like me 170cm could easily hold on his body a minimum 61kg of pure muscle alone.. including the weight of bones, skin, organs and other stuff that'd put me easily at a not too lean not too fat 95-100kg natty, with 20kg of pure fat and the rest in other lean-non-muscle mass.

This assuming my genetics are average, they could be elite and top notch, who knows? Let's also not forget that bone mass gets heavier ass well through training and diet. so my max natty weight could be even higher.

Roided guys just have the muscles of a sumo player without the extra fat. Realistic? Certainly not... but who cares, if it is possible with drugs it's possible without.
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Velsria said:
Meusnier said:

POW: 99% of pro-bodybuilders and all "CrossFit" athletes are on drugs.


Yeah sure we can agree on that, but it doesn't mean their appearance per se can't be obtained without drugs.

There was a study saying that naturally it is possible to achieve a maximum of 0.7kg of muscle mass per every 1cm of height at elite levels but half of that is still very realistic as most sumo wrestlers have and had similar amounts of muscle muscle.

so a guy like me 170cm could easily hold on his body a minimum 61kg of pure muscle alone.. including the weight of bones, skin, organs and other stuff that'd put me easily at a not too lean not too fat 95-100kg natty, with 20kg of pure fat and the rest in other lean-non-muscle mass.

This assuming my genetics are average, they could be elite and top notch, who knows? Let's also not forget that bone mass gets heavier ass well through training and diet. so my max natty weight could be even higher.

Roided guys just have the muscles of a sumo player without the extra fat. Realistic? Certainly not... but who cares, if it is possible with drugs it's possible without.

"Yeah sure we can agree on that, but it doesn't mean their appearance per se can't be obtained without drugs."

This is exactly what it means.

"if it is possible with drugs it's possible without."

No. Influencers only propagate such myths to flatter their audience.

You said it yourself, you might get to 90kg with 20% of bodyfat, but certainly not 10% or lower...
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Meusnier said:

You said it yourself, you might get to 90kg with 20% of bodyfat, but certainly not 10% or lower...



Yeah sure, then we've come to an agreement.
I'm just saying that over the course of 30-40 years of training on could get down to that level for a while before they die of old age.

But everyone can get big, strong, heavy and puffy.

take away 4% of fat and you have 86kg with 16% bodyfat, that means you still have visible abdominals and maybe even some bicep veins.
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*Enters the thread in a fur coat and biker shorts at 5'5 and 1246 pounds


I'm on that blackhole density diet motherfuckers. It's new, you wouldn't understand Zoomer.
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well im six years and half on estrogens, im pumped, im fully jacked up, im on the juice yo :p


Yeah I bet you go around selling bodybuilding supplements you sick fuck!

Do you have any for free? We are friends, right?
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Femboy is the sexiest in my honest opinion.
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Velsria said:
cousin_vergil said:

Do you have a fetish for beer bellies and hairy guys that smell? cause that's the average...
You probably havent seen sheklon, railey2 or cneq but that body type is the sexiest. Unfortunately i'm not among them i'm too skinny :(


Six months eating just a little bit more and you'll have a decent body.

@philtecturophy you should probably exercise more [/quote][/quote]

I need a diet, don't need gym. I need to be skinnier. I like to be skinny. I like femboy looks, like Ren Kouha.
Just need swim and water theraphy for my coccydynia


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... normal? Like average weight, maybe some muscles but nothing too much.
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In general when it comes to guys I like them average. I dont like extremes in that regard.



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