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Jun 10, 2022 11:46 AM
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And... yup, here it is. We got a backstory on Miyako and Luou's relationship and how they were as kids. Luou's grandmother was seriously very scary making a little kid do something that doesn't even love. But, this love triangle was a mess, to begin with. Luou needing that support from none other than Miyako was acceptable because she was with him all this time.

But, at the same time, it feels kinda odd and I don't wanna question Miyako's decision but for her, Luou needed that support more. Felt like a gut punch being there in Junpei's position. That performance tho was really beautiful. Just one more episode left in this show and I think it'll be a perfect place to end the first season.

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Jun 10, 2022 12:09 PM
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Luou's sudden silent runaway stunt to go back to his grandmother's place, Miyako knew that it would be trouble.

Luou's complicated history in full detail: the child of scandal-ridden Aunt Mazuru, and their estranged grandmother whom is an esteemed ballerina, but couldn't perform in Russia, much less an Asian performing in an European country. Young Miyako certainly was ingrained from young on her ballet dreams, and the shut-in beautiful kid that is Luou, she provided him a great deal of depth for his freedom of expression of dancing.

But their grandmother instilled a sense of mental trauma to reflect her failures on Luou, and Miyako essentially was the one whom kept him sane all this time while being tortured to do ballet, not seeing Luou but Mazuru. So that's why Chizuru felt distant from her, and opened up her own dance studio to reflect fun instead of cultivating professional talents.

The chemistry between Luou and Miyako is not one of love, but of utmost support and the former's fear of reprisal against their grandmother for she'll torture him more if he doesn't listen to her: a thorny path of flowers for that sole light. And Junpei and Miyako's relationship ultimately severed Luou's only hope to be guided to the light, even if it's all for love. And now, they have to find Luou back , who's dancing Odile on the beach to appease his dementia-suffered grandmother.

Luou needs an entirely different approval: one by his very own dance, and Miyako signed her fate away to be Luou's support from day one, she was never made for Junpei. And thus, the 3-way love triangle ballet beckons...
Jun 10, 2022 12:44 PM
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This episode was just scary, if you look at everyone mind state, no one is barely well in this episode.

The grandma sat at the little door, if had the Jojo sound effects, would be perfect.

Miyako blank expression was marvelous.
Jun 10, 2022 2:26 PM
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Liked finally seeing the entire backstory of Luou and Miyako's life that had Luou so traumatized and Miyako so attached to Luou. The earlier flashes of Luou's past weren't enough, so now this complete history is more satisfying and makes more sense as to Luou's condition.

Luou's grandmother never saw Luou as Luou. She only saw his mother who seemed to be her prized possession. Hope the next season explains why Mazuru left and if she was ever intending to return for Luou.

Ha! Funny how Jumpei used Luou as an excuse to break up with Miyako, while knowing that his heart was suddenly taken by another. And poor Miyako is stuck, STUCK, with Luou despite having feelings for Jumpei; though based on that flashback, she basically promised her life away to Luou, anyway. And Luou cannot survive without Miyako's support.

This whole episode was just dramatic. Good, but a bit slow. More excited for the next one.

P.S. The whole cousin-couple thing in Japan is one that I've come to recognize after YEARS of watching anime, but I don't think I'll ever get used to it lol
Jun 10, 2022 3:46 PM
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Fuck.This.Shit

So Luou was abused for his whole childhood.
And now he's emotionally abusing Miyako, gult-tripping her into staying with him.

I swear, if Junpei and Miyako truly break up, I'm gonna break something. :/

Luou belongs in a mental institution to receive proper help.
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Jun 10, 2022 4:23 PM
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kind of cool to see luou and miyako as kids also didn't junpei and miyako only date for a few days or something? Lol
Near the end of the episode the animation quality seemed like it got so much better

when I saw this scene all I could think was EREN
Jun 10, 2022 4:38 PM
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Ignoring the whole "I'm in love with my cousin" thing which is weird in itself, the whole "Miyako needs to stay by Luou's side" thing makes me feel really bad for her. Poor Luou was physically, and verbally abused by his grandmother and abandoned by his mother with no proper way to heal. He unhealthily attached himself to Miyako because she was all he had. I still don't believe that means Miyako has to give herself away to Luou because she was a decent person who cared for a family member. Her face at the end when she told Jumpei she'll find the song was sad, too. It looked like her soul was crushed/she gave up hope. He needs extensive therapy, not her, lmao
Jun 10, 2022 4:50 PM
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This is some really fucked up shit. Luou got abused by his grandma who only ever saw Mazuru in him and thus attached himself to Miyako. And now that she loves Junpei, he made her feel guilty in order to make her stay. What an unstable person.

Seeing as the writer does acknowledge this, I think Miyako will eventually end up with Junpei.




Jun 10, 2022 4:59 PM
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God damn, this episode was really good, we seen more about the past of Ruo, oh and the last words miyako said to Junpei... Mappa is also doing good.
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Jun 10, 2022 6:29 PM
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Beautiful episode; so sad but beautifully presented. 10/10
Jun 10, 2022 8:13 PM
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Our boi has to sacrifice his relationship with Miyaka to save Luou
Jun 10, 2022 9:17 PM

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I'm not sure if it was the pacing or the writing quality, but I really did not like this episode

Super let down because I was looking forward to this
Jun 10, 2022 10:55 PM
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Isnt't Luou supposed to be Miyako's cousin? Did they really need to add the incest element here
Jun 10, 2022 10:58 PM

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That was a rough episode but quite beautifully executed. My heart goes out to Luou but especially Miyako. She honestly shouldn’t be forced to be a persons anchor when she is still just a child herself. I’m upset about it but these are children (Junpei and Miyako) who can’t truly understand the right way to go about this. It’s heartbreaking.
Jun 10, 2022 11:18 PM

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I hope they break up for real. For tsundere elementary girl and for Luou.
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Jun 10, 2022 11:25 PM

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Getintherobot234 said:
Isnt't Luou supposed to be Miyako's cousin? Did they really need to add the incest element here

It isn't illegal in Japan yet.
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Jun 10, 2022 11:31 PM
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IxiaoI said:
Getintherobot234 said:
Isnt't Luou supposed to be Miyako's cousin? Did they really need to add the incest element here

It isn't illegal in Japan yet.


Doesn't make it any less weird. They are first cousins after all
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Getintherobot234 said:
IxiaoI said:

It isn't illegal in Japan yet.


Doesn't make it any less weird. They are first cousins after all


Bro the freaking PRIME MINISTER of Japan, Naoto Kan, is married to his first cousin.

And this wasn't a long time ago either, he was PM from 2009-2012. Only a decade ago and the country's head of state is in this kind of relationship lol.
Jun 11, 2022 12:26 AM
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this is sad for Miyako and Luou because she feels she has to give up what makes her happy or do this or that to take care of a pathetic person that can't survive or live without her taking care of him.

Miyakos eyes after she said Junpei was right and tricked Luou into manning up by pretending to kiss Junpei..... sad turn for both those characters imo and Junpei while he's technically being a good friend to Luou by giving her up it's sad because it technically shouldn't be his responsibility although you could argue because he knows that she should be with him would he really be happy in a relationship with her having that tearing away at the back of his mind....

remember when Junpei saw Miyakos pantu and that's all we had to worry about good times...

good episode weird feels....
Jun 11, 2022 2:04 AM
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Banshee-IV said:
Getintherobot234 said:


Doesn't make it any less weird. They are first cousins after all


Bro the freaking PRIME MINISTER of Japan, Naoto Kan, is married to his first cousin.

And this wasn't a long time ago either, he was PM from 2009-2012. Only a decade ago and the country's head of state is in this kind of relationship lol.


And imo that is weird as well even if not illegal. Its also worse than step bro step sis incest imo
Jun 11, 2022 2:47 AM

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so.. the reason their grandma was a shit granny was bc she got her dreams crushed by a stupid factor she couldn't even control. look im not saying thats not a big thing, it definitely is. it must've been devastating but to abuse your grandchild because of it??? to the point where he didn't think twice to commit sulcide at such a younge age?????

always thought the "im in love with my cousin" thingy was weird, still is, but damn he had no one else. literally. emotionally and physically abused all his life, and the only person who was his small bright light was miyako. chizuru eventually stepped in and became his guardian but his attachment towards miyako would not budge. it was too deep to expand or to pluck. its seriously so sad but i rly hope he can heal

last scene kinda pissed me off tho not bc of the love triangle thing but bc of this god fucking grandma I KNOWW she can literally die if i hit her once but omfg😭 my hatred towards her wont give a shit abt that
Jun 11, 2022 3:36 AM

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Both Miyako and Ruou are scarred and need therapy, if she wasn't, the idea of "saving" someone wouldn't have even crossed her mind ever and there would have been no guilt felt. You get in these types of relationships because you feel not good enough so you try to compensate by "saving" and "fixing". Sounds harsh but it'd be better for Junpei to be with someone healthier, and of course Miyako can change, but for now it's good they broke up.
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Jun 11, 2022 3:50 AM

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Getintherobot234 said:
IxiaoI said:

It isn't illegal in Japan yet.


Doesn't make it any less weird. They are first cousins after all

Other country butcher large amount of rattlesnakes for contest, allow same sex marriage, allow abortion, etc. for various reasons. There is nothing to do other than accept or complain about their cultural "subjectivity" but it wouldn't do any change. If it ruins your enjoyment then drop the show.
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Jun 11, 2022 4:15 AM

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Truth be told, looking at everything that has happened, Ruo could never know true happiness until Miyako came into his life and just as he sought to boost her, she should have done the same, with Junpei coming in, she was taking that away from him, now he must let her go for her sake already, if she wishes for him to be able to stand up for himself.
Jun 11, 2022 5:54 AM

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Again and again, this show really knows how to evoke emotions, Jesus Christ. That was hard to watch, in a good way of course.

The parallels with Swan Lake though, their performance has now translated into real life. Massive respect to Junpei for giving up Miyako to Luou, even though their relationship is uhh, yeah, unhealthy. Luou needs therapy. Worry not Junpei, there are plenty of other fish in the sea... Like Natsuki.

Well overall, there's really just some bad parenting and relationships all around in this show lmao, which I would say is, more or less realistic. Sad that there's only 1 episode left, do your thing MAPPA, make a second season, there's like 200+ chapters out there from what I know and the anime is probably only 1/4 of that.
Jun 11, 2022 7:33 AM
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of course this would happen .. after giving us one of the best confessions in recent seasons that was all a setup to make a sudden break-up hurt even more.
for those saying that it makes no sense or Miyako is being manipulated into leaving junpei: do remember that in a couple of episodes it was established that she supposedly does have romantic feelings for Luou but thinks its one sided.
(leaving the incest subject aside).
Jun 11, 2022 8:48 AM
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Ignoring the whole "I'm in love with my cousin" thing which is weird in itself, the whole "Miyako needs to stay by Luou's side" thing makes me feel really bad for her. Poor Luou was physically, and verbally abused by his grandmother and abandoned by his mother with no proper way to heal. He unhealthily attached himself to Miyako because she was all he had. I still don't believe that means Miyako has to give herself away to Luou because she was a decent person who cared for a family member. Her face at the end when she told Jumpei she'll find the song was sad, too. It looked like her soul was crushed/she gave up hope. He needs extensive therapy, not her, lmao

It's not weird in japan and also a lot of other regions like middle east and africa so the first one is a cultural problem mostly. About the second problem, the whole situation is so out of hand that I even don't know who to side with but all I know is that junpei and myiako really want to help luou, and any decision made here looks wrong, one way or the other
Jun 11, 2022 8:49 AM
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of course this would happen .. after giving us one of the best confessions in recent seasons that was all a setup to make a sudden break-up hurt even more.
for those saying that it makes no sense or Miyako is being manipulated into leaving junpei: do remember that in a couple of episodes it was established that she supposedly does have romantic feelings for Luou but thinks its one sided.
(leaving the incest subject aside).

It's her cousin tho. As far as I know it's completely normal in Japan
Jun 11, 2022 9:49 AM

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YoseiEgg said:
Poor Luou was physically, and verbally abused by his grandmother and abandoned by his mother with no proper way to heal. He unhealthily attached himself to Miyako because she was all he had. I still don't believe that means Miyako has to give herself away to Luou because she was a decent person who cared for a family member. Her face at the end when she told Jumpei she'll find the song was sad, too. It looked like her soul was crushed/she gave up hope. He needs extensive therapy, not her, lmao

Definitely agree it's messed up to suggest that Miyako needs to give herself away for Luou's health, but on the other hand the fact that Junpei would suggest this shows he's not a good match either. Does he not see Miyako as a person who has her own needs? He can't just hand her over.
Jun 11, 2022 12:06 PM

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If the grandmother has dementia and is wheelchair-bound, why was she still at her home unattended before Luou returned?
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the fuck why this anime so good !!!
Jun 11, 2022 2:10 PM
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Wow, terrible episode mental-wise. Instead of putting the kid under therapy or something to actually face his issues, the tweens are the ones deciding where the girl goes like she has no opinion. The 13yo has to be the mental crutch for another 13yo, because THAT's normal. Very happy to see that Junpei thought so much of her... Excessive drama for things that adults should have been responsible.

The series was already getting disappointed with cliche "training" arcs and "amazingly talented" protagonists, but this sealed the deal for me.
Jun 11, 2022 4:52 PM
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Not going to lie, it seems like no one is chasing what they love (except for arguably Junpei), and hence in some way they're all tied down to their own chains. Even Junpei's classmates who want to do ballet--while they have ambitions their love is all complicated.
Jun 11, 2022 7:01 PM

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EnVaH said:
YoseiEgg said:
Ignoring the whole "I'm in love with my cousin" thing which is weird in itself, the whole "Miyako needs to stay by Luou's side" thing makes me feel really bad for her. Poor Luou was physically, and verbally abused by his grandmother and abandoned by his mother with no proper way to heal. He unhealthily attached himself to Miyako because she was all he had. I still don't believe that means Miyako has to give herself away to Luou because she was a decent person who cared for a family member. Her face at the end when she told Jumpei she'll find the song was sad, too. It looked like her soul was crushed/she gave up hope. He needs extensive therapy, not her, lmao

It's not weird in japan and also a lot of other regions like middle east and africa so the first one is a cultural problem mostly. About the second problem, the whole situation is so out of hand that I even don't know who to side with but all I know is that junpei and myiako really want to help luou, and any decision made here looks wrong, one way or the other


The Internet constantly jokes about "Sweet Home Alabama" to crap on the South, but if they actually did their research, it would be "Sweet Home Arabia" for the sheer amount of incestuous marriages out there, holy crap.
Jun 11, 2022 8:01 PM

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I don't know why Lou bothers with the granny, it's obvious she doesn't acknowledge his existence. Too bad he'll try to prove to her.
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Jun 11, 2022 9:43 PM

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Junpei actually realized the bad timing of his relationship with Miyako by himself. Good on him. Indeed, there's something that needs to get done before that can happen.
Doesn't really make up for the poor writing of their relationship, but it's at least something.

Just one more episode left and then I'll finally be free. I can do this.
Jun 11, 2022 10:26 PM

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My whole opinion about the anime will be decided by the ending, if it actually sells the abusive relationship in a positive light that would be a straight downgrade. The episode captured somehow decently the stockholm syndrome, but sadly the shortcomings in terms of expresiveness derived into a less hard hitting experience



Jun 12, 2022 3:25 AM

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Wow what an incredible episode! Seeing the trio act within the context of Swan Lake again gave me chills as their characters take on a different meaning this time around. They were really well cast for their roles.

The backstory was much needed as we got a better look at Luou's past, and also more importantly it fleshed out Miyako's character more. She was in dire need of more depth to her personality, and I sympathize with her feelings of not feeling worthy/talented enough to go pro. But damn, Junpei deciding for Miyako by prematurely ending their relationship was not cool: he didn't consider Miyako's feelings at all! He was too quick to end it; but the writing was already on the wall, I think Junpei had shown throughout the season that he's a tad immature when it comes to relationships.
Jun 12, 2022 4:47 AM

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this episode was deeply impressively heavy!
Jumpei felt like he stole Miyako from Luou after hearing the past story from Luou and his harsh grandma (now with dementia)
This definitely MUST have a 2nd Season sine 11 episode is just doesn't do justice with this kind of story.
5/5.


Jun 12, 2022 6:30 AM

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Beautiful, absolutely beautiful. I am so glad I didn't sleep on this one. Getting Luou's backstory and watching the dynamics change between the characters is so fulfilling. The use of thorns and the overall darker tone that's used to illustrate the darkness and sadness that filled Luou's childhood conveys so much.

This better not be the end. While I'm enjoying this arc where we get to see the kind of trauma Luou had to deal with and how that shaped him into the person that he is now, is very enjoyable, I hope it doesn't steal the light spot from Jumpei. I really want him to go somewhere and especially not miss out on the SS class opportunity. I would be really disappointed if this doesn't get a second season. MAPPA please give us more.
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My whole opinion about the anime will be decided by the ending, if it actually sells the abusive relationship in a positive light that would be a straight downgrade. The episode captured somehow decently the stockholm syndrome, but sadly the shortcomings in terms of expresiveness derived into a less hard hitting experience

I honestly don't see how they're trying to paint trauma positively?! I think the whole point here is to say that Luou seeks some kind of validation from the person who abused him. But being challenged by Jumpei and feeling like his rival is taking things away from him makes him rebel and fight back.
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My whole opinion about the anime will be decided by the ending, if it actually sells the abusive relationship in a positive light that would be a straight downgrade. The episode captured somehow decently the stockholm syndrome, but sadly the shortcomings in terms of expresiveness derived into a less hard hitting experience

I honestly don't see how they're trying to paint trauma positively?! I think the whole point here is to say that Luou seeks some kind of validation from the person who abused him. But being challenged by Jumpei and feeling like his rival is taking things away from him makes him rebel and fight back.

??? When did I say that it paints the trauma positively?? I even explicitly comment about the stockholm syndrome, did you even read my comment? I said that the release of the conflict could be problematic, so it depends on how it sells it



Jun 12, 2022 12:22 PM

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Poor Luou
His grandmother never accepted him for who he was, and he was subjected to torturous dance lessons as a child.
Jun 12, 2022 1:12 PM

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Fuck.This.Shit

So Luou was abused for his whole childhood.
And now he's emotionally abusing Miyako, gult-tripping her into staying with him.

I swear, if Junpei and Miyako truly break up, I'm gonna break something. :/

Luou belongs in a mental institution to receive proper help.

I mean that's life. Fucked up.
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Isnt't Luou supposed to be Miyako's cousin? Did they really need to add the incest element here

It isn't illegal in Japan yet.


"Yet", implying that it should be legal, lol. You damn prude. Fucking your cousin is legal in most civilized countries of this world and there's nothing wrong with it as long as you can bear the weird stares your family members are going to give you forever.
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No Natsuki = shit episode

Jokes aside, what even is going on anymore lol. I don’t understand some decisions made by the characters
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Another hard episode to watch, the abuse was very horrible, Luou almost don't know how to be happy

Luou and Miyako really suffers emotionally and mentality, what a difficult situation there

Also we can see how much Jumpei care abt Luou, is really good to see this friendship growing

I'm very excited to the last episode, and hope we get a season 2, this anime is really a hidden gem
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Ugh..trash episode...characters acting like its some drama skit..Grossed me out thouroughly...Ruined the anime for me..the way characters behave is just bllllarrrhhhhhggghhh... Now to see if anything can be salvaged next episode..not expecting much
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Ugh..trash episode...characters acting like its some drama skit..Grossed me out thouroughly...Ruined the anime for me..the way characters behave is just bllllarrrhhhhhggghhh... Now to see if anything can be salvaged next episode..not expecting much


I think you put into words one of my problems with this epi epi

Most of the actions and dialogue here weren't as natural as we've been seeing and instead seemed like they were made for a drama in a theater, being condensed and simplified like that

Maybe that was the intended effect? Either way, I didn't like it either
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Great portrayal of both Luou's trauma and Miyako's distress of being just an "average" dancer. Luou was cursed by his abusive grandmother and as result, he ended up cursing Miyako by making her his only reason for emotional stability. So yeah, even though I don't really care about these two as characters, I gotta admit I really like how beautifully messed up this whole situation is.

Now this said, these two really need some therapy. Especially since I have no idea how a Swan Lake improvisation is gonna fix Luou's issues but we will see.

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Poor Luou was physically, and verbally abused by his grandmother and abandoned by his mother with no proper way to heal. He unhealthily attached himself to Miyako because she was all he had. I still don't believe that means Miyako has to give herself away to Luou because she was a decent person who cared for a family member. Her face at the end when she told Jumpei she'll find the song was sad, too. It looked like her soul was crushed/she gave up hope. He needs extensive therapy, not her, lmao

Definitely agree it's messed up to suggest that Miyako needs to give herself away for Luou's health, but on the other hand the fact that Junpei would suggest this shows he's not a good match either. Does he not see Miyako as a person who has her own needs? He can't just hand her over.

Bro, it's Junpei. 13yo dumb and impulsive Junpei. He's just suggesting what he thinks should be the "right thing" and also, let's not forget he fell for Miyako mostly because of her looks and the pantsu scene in Ep.1.
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