| I remember reading some review (didn't finish it) some time ago and one of the things that got this user disappointed in the anime was annoying characters. Thought to myself in this large medium with actual annoying characters, as in characters portrayed as being people you'd want to die the moment they try some "funny" shit, is it actually a bad thing for there to be annoying characters? The same applies to dumb characters. I don't find anything inherently wrong with it. It ruins the enjoyment, but that is not true for everyone. What are your thoughts? Maybe I am missing something. |
| I don't think I find any characters annoying enough to ruin a show on their own. Even the worst main characters need to be in a show where I already find nothing else of value for me to consider it bad. |
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| It depends. Yui from K-On and Fuko from Clannad are both dumb and annoying. Sometimes, at least. I like them in spite of it because they're also funny, cute and charming. Fuko so easily falls for all of Tomoya's pranks and it's funny when she tries to act like she's the smartest person in the room. Yui acts like a giant spoiled baby sometimes and without constant pressure would fail all of her school work but it's so easy to understand why her sister and friends coddle her behavior. On the other hand we have guys like Ginrou from Dr. Stone:  Just look at him. He's always like this. I hate him. I hate him so much. Now, you might be saying: "I see how it is. Only annoying girl characters get a pass. You MISOGYNIST!" But lets not forget: the most annoying, stupid, boring anime character ever to exist...fucking Mimori. She's useless to story, doesn't help advance it in any meaningful way. Her motivations for being there are dumb. Her voice is irritating and she just robs valuable screen-time from other, better characters. She almost ruined the show. It'd be an easy 10/10 for me without her in it. |
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| Think Subaru from Re;zero fits the description quite well. I still can't find a good reason why he even is in that show since he basically does nothing except crying, whining or dying. |
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| Yes, characters like that can ruin shows on their own. Hoping that the protagonist gets School days'd is not good, when the author actually intended them as a likeable. |
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| The "dumb/annoying" character as defined and described by you I have no problem with inherently. In fact, if done right, they can be quite entertaining especially for comedic relief. Alternatively, when I think of "dumb/annoying" characters, my first thought are those characters who are behaving quite seriously but as if they had a functional lobotomy and none of their actions, motives, or behaviors make rational sense or are especially grating. Those are the kinds of characters that get me to lower my score of an anime by several points if the issue is pervasive. |
Azuchi said: Think Subaru from Re;zero fits the description quite well. I still can't find a good reason why he even is in that show since he basically does nothing except crying, whining or dying. Well, Re:Zero is full of characters who don't do anything. Almost nobody has any idea what's going on... Only Echidna was the only likeable character. And another very popular show where the characters are totally useless: Made in Abyss. The protagonists ruin the show on their own already, but the supporting cast of characters only had 1 rational thought in the entire first season too... |
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| if they back up with proper explanation and reasoning, then why not? Else, just stop reading that shit. |
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| Yes, dumb/annoying/whiny characters can ruin a show especially if they are a vital part of it. NGE characters fit these roles |
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| No. Ex: Mako, Yui, Atsuko, Antony Silva, Mari or Minori, they aren´t bad... wait, Antony Silva was really bad, but not the rest |
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| If they decrease my enjoyment on a show then yes. |
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| It is fine if a character is irritating to other characters because that can be fun and helps to break tension and add humor. But the moment they start irritating the audience it’s gone too far. Good writing knows how to toe this line. |
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| Dumb characters =/= bad character but an annoying character can be bad. |
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| good character = dumb/annoying character I like bad character = dumb/annoying character I dislike |
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| Yes absolutely 100%. I dropped demon slayer because of that blonde fucker. Done it before as well. |
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| No. Intelligence is overrated anyway. Go Knuckleheads. |
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| The universal answer fits here It depends on how dumb or annoying they are and how those characters are used in the story. |
| If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time. Watch more movies, please. Kafka, Fu Xuan, Jingliu, Topaz and Huohuo. |
| Not necessarily...Luffy and Usopp are examples of a dumb and an annoying characters but both are good at their roles . Characters like Zenitsu are very annoying and dumb to me, but I can't call it a bad character since there's no much info about him(I only watch the anime) and he does a good job supporting the MC Being annoying/dumb doesn't make a character bad, doing a bad job at the role they have in the story does...this is why Sakura sucks even after she became strong(Sasori arc) |
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| Toshino Kyouko/Yui Hirasawa. They are my favorite dumb/annoying characters of all time. |
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| I feel like there's a distinction between A) 'dumb/annoying because it contradicts/interferes with story/overall tone/plot progression (or because it ignores previously established story foundations/build-up),' and B) 'dumb/annoying because the viewer cannot handle a certain type of character being used in a certain way, irrespective of their overall contribution to the story.' Obviously there's some overlap in these two very arbitrary categories that I just set up. To further divide the latter distinction: 1) a character that (supposedly) uses cheap tricks and laughs as attempted comedy, 2) a character that overuses cheap tropes and clichés that the viewer is already aware of, and thus lacks in originality and/or storytelling tact (which may or may not be for comedy), and 3) a character archetype/several personality traits that the viewer simply cannot stand (the most susceptible to variances in taste). NextUniverse said: is it actually a bad thing for there to be annoying characters? This heavily depends on the tone of the show in question, and exactly what 'annoying' means. - What I find personally annoying specifically in comedy shows, is that some characters exist mainly for the purpose of creating new problems that the other characters must resolve, and said resolution is both the plot point of the show (or just limited to some episodes) and where the comedy comes from. Some of the characters in this category have been incredibly annoying to me, but at the same time without their mishaps the entire show risks becoming monotonous and uneventful: I've decided to just accept this as a necessary evil. Of course I'd prefer that I wouldn't have to deal with this necessary evil at all, and have the characters having a role to fulfill other than to be the troll that causes havoc, but not every show can satisfy this condition, and I'm not sure that I'd want every show to be this way. - In predominantly non-comedic shows where characters are 'annoying' to provide some levity to the show, a lot depends on when, how & how long the joke is delivered, and whether the show can seamlessly transition from said comedic scene to a 'serious' scene. This is pretty damn subjective, so I won't elaborate further. For most non-comedic cases, though, I think most characters can be justified as a portrayal of fictional characters being subjected to unrealistic cases, as long as they're supported by good writing. Man, writing this wall of text made me realize why people might not like some of my favorite anime. Thanks OP, I guess? TL;DR, characters are dumb/annoying when the writing/comedic delivery is poor. |
BurningCarnationMay 12, 2022 2:18 PM
| I think that if a character is annoying or dumb but for a reason or if they are of any importance (play a role in the story, plot, or progression and development of another character or world etc.) then it's fine. So basically, if they provide anything of value or influence the show in any meaningful way, they have more depth to them then just having annoying/dumb traits, and are written decently. |
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| Hmm, I would say not always. Some characters are purposely written to be dumb/annoying for the sake of the story, or for the sake of having other characters progress or develop. Many viewers might detest these dumb/annoying characters, but they still played their roles in the stories quite successfully. Some characters are also dumb/annoying in like a “younger sibling/cousin” kind of way. |
| If I find them annoying I don't care if they're "objectively" well written or not. It affects my enjoyment |
| unless you're trying to do a character analysis on them, then sure a character you found dumb/annoying can be considered a bad character on a personal level i found everyone in nichijou and asobi asobase to be annoying in a bad way, so i personally found them to be bad characters. That doesn't mean I think everyone should hate them or smth |
 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
| not necessarily, idm dumb/annoying characters unless they have a purpose as to why they act this way. otherwise, if it was someone like zenitsu then i'd think they are horribly written |
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| you know how bitter flavor is the usual for medicine that cures, I guess a sprinkle of annoyance is acceptable in anime depending on how author handles it. people often mention zenitsu which I find to be not annoying at all unless if I wear earphones I guess. |
| Not exactly, but they are not a pleasure to see on screen. |
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