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May 7, 2022 2:25 PM
#51
troilus_05s said: deg said: troilus_05s said: deg said: that is such an old fashion way of thinking that anime and manga is for japanese audience only when international profit makes up a significant portion of the total profit of anime and manga now a days It is what the truth is. Manga is geared towards the Japanese audience. That's why it has Japanese references too that the international audience regularly miss. Takaba's jokes are also Japanese puns. JJK uses a lot of references from Japanese history. Also, you don't even need to know all the rules of Pachinko. It isn't even difficult to understand. deg said: plus obvious things like a chair should not be explained obviously lol And for the Japanese audience, explaining something as obvious as 'what Pachinko is' is futile. They already know it. its for the japanese audience first then more reason for me to not high up the score of this and im fine with just seeing the rule of cool of Sukuna and Todo for example in other words you hardcore fans cannot expect someone like me to fully appreciate this manga I never said you need to praise it. If you don't like something, you don't like it. But you can't call it bad writing because it is you who is reading something that isn't geared towards you. So you need to make an effort to understand the references, etc if you want to enjoy it. If you don't want to, then fine. But as I mentioned before, it isn't bad writing. i called it bad writing in general because a lot of people in this thread like me fail to fully understand nor even grasp the basics to understand this chapter and this is not the first time too with this manga, like i said at least with how boring Hunter x Hunter is with its too much text to read it at least tries so hard to make things like it ideas and concepts as standalone as a story or rules your argument is like with those paid critics are saying "its 2deep4u so you did not appreciate it" |
May 7, 2022 2:34 PM
#52
| @troilus_05s also do you consider this Hard Fantasy like Hunter X Hunter is? so obviously it needs to present its world rules more clearer right? |
May 7, 2022 7:07 PM
#53
deg said: false, most Japanese readers (which is the main audience for most mangaka) will know Pachinko rules, not to mention the fact that Pachinko is played around the world and not just in Japan, altough the name might differnakkki said: Imagine not loving Gege and his unconventionality in his power system that forces you to really research or think.. Couldn't be me if your story requires your readers to do research or have PHD degrees then lol you fail as an entertainer or your story is not meant for mainstream entertainment |
May 7, 2022 7:13 PM
#54
deg said: nobody is giving that argumenttroilus_05s said: deg said: troilus_05s said: deg said: that is such an old fashion way of thinking that anime and manga is for japanese audience only when international profit makes up a significant portion of the total profit of anime and manga now a days It is what the truth is. Manga is geared towards the Japanese audience. That's why it has Japanese references too that the international audience regularly miss. Takaba's jokes are also Japanese puns. JJK uses a lot of references from Japanese history. Also, you don't even need to know all the rules of Pachinko. It isn't even difficult to understand. deg said: plus obvious things like a chair should not be explained obviously lol And for the Japanese audience, explaining something as obvious as 'what Pachinko is' is futile. They already know it. its for the japanese audience first then more reason for me to not high up the score of this and im fine with just seeing the rule of cool of Sukuna and Todo for example in other words you hardcore fans cannot expect someone like me to fully appreciate this manga I never said you need to praise it. If you don't like something, you don't like it. But you can't call it bad writing because it is you who is reading something that isn't geared towards you. So you need to make an effort to understand the references, etc if you want to enjoy it. If you don't want to, then fine. But as I mentioned before, it isn't bad writing. i called it bad writing in general because a lot of people in this thread like me fail to fully understand nor even grasp the basics to understand this chapter and this is not the first time too with this manga, like i said at least with how boring Hunter x Hunter is with its too much text to read it at least tries so hard to make things like it ideas and concepts as standalone as a story or rules your argument is like with those paid critics are saying "its 2deep4u so you did not appreciate it" You are in delusion You gave the argument "Because it's 2deep4me it's bad writting" In this thread nobody cares wether you praise it or not. But you can't call this bad writting just because you can't understand something. Hard fantasy?? Pachinko is not rule of its world lmao Pachinko is just a game It's like Mario Why any hard fantasy will explain it and if it doesn't explain it , this doesn't mean it's not hard fantasy. |
May 7, 2022 8:41 PM
#55
| @Skypiean @Sanjii_1234 only gamblers knows this and young people know gambling like this already? do explain the rules of Pachinko then better than this manga did and how it makes this story more good power and magic system is part of the world rules so yes since they introduce his power is related to Pachinko then its part of the world rules if the author fails to explain things good to a large audience then i consider it not mainstream and im sure a lot will do too no wonder mainstream anime hits are not 2deep4u like this most of the time |
May 7, 2022 9:22 PM
#56
deg said: bro that's just pathetic@Skypiean @Sanjii_1234 only gamblers knows this and young people know gambling like this already? do explain the rules of Pachinko then better than this manga did and how it makes this story more good power and magic system is part of the world rules so yes since they introduce his power is related to Pachinko then its part of the world rules if the author fails to explain things good to a large audience then i consider it not mainstream and im sure a lot will do too no wonder mainstream anime hits are not 2deep4u like this most of the time Firstly stop the "explain shit". If you don't have guts to talk point to point then don't talk on platforms because all you do is to change the topic. Never said pachinko makes story good The technique does so. Pachinko is very famous in Japan, most of the japanese know the rules already. Many card games are prohibited but kids know. It's not the game which itself is confusing, the problem arise because we are not familiar with the terms used in such type of games. He didn't fail. There is no need to explain the obvious. How pachinko is World's rule??? Are you that dumb??? It's part of the technique?? Pachinko is already established game,it's not greed island or heavens arena type tournament game which is needed to be explained. Like togashi didn't explain shogi that's why you can't understand the certain scenes and message of chinmera ant arc. But the main audience understood. Search and understand. Death note?? Stein's gate??? Psycho pass??? Also jjk ain't mainstream??? Please take a look at the sales. Shinchan and doreamon are even more popular. So just watch them if you are so obsessed with mainstream things. Nobody gives a f about whether something is mainstream or not. Also popularity doesn't determine quality especially we got to see "this" in the recent years. |
May 7, 2022 9:37 PM
#57
Sanjii_1234 said: deg said: bro that's just pathetic@Skypiean @Sanjii_1234 only gamblers knows this and young people know gambling like this already? do explain the rules of Pachinko then better than this manga did and how it makes this story more good power and magic system is part of the world rules so yes since they introduce his power is related to Pachinko then its part of the world rules if the author fails to explain things good to a large audience then i consider it not mainstream and im sure a lot will do too no wonder mainstream anime hits are not 2deep4u like this most of the time Firstly stop the "explain shit". If you don't have guts to talk point to point then don't talk on platforms because all you do is to change the topic. Never said pachinko makes story good The technique does so. Pachinko is very famous in Japan, most of the japanese know the rules already. Many card games are prohibited but kids know. It's not the game which itself is confusing, the problem arise because we are not familiar with the terms used in such type of games. He didn't fail. There is no need to explain the obvious. How pachinko is World's rule??? Are you that dumb??? It's part of the technique?? Pachinko is already established game,it's not greed island or heavens arena type tournament game which is needed to be explained. Like togashi didn't explain shogi that's why you can't understand the certain scenes and message of chinmera ant arc. But the main audience understood. Search and understand. Death note?? Stein's gate??? Psycho pass??? Also jjk ain't mainstream??? Please take a look at the sales. Shinchan and doreamon are even more popular. So just watch them if you are so obsessed with mainstream things. Nobody gives a f about whether something is mainstream or not. Also popularity doesn't determine quality especially we got to see "this" in the recent years. again there are international audience too not just japan now start explaining things to people in this thread already to defend this shit chapter again im still reading and enjoying this manga because of the rule of cool like Sukuna and Todo being badass yes Jujutsu Kaisen is mainstream but did this chapter or other big brain chapters already got an anime adaptation? and whats the reaction? you people keep focusing on my words "bad writing" its funny you cannot accept that this Pachinko curse technique is badly explained to the greater audience if you do not have anything new to add then stop quoting me already or start explaining why you think this is good written cursed technique |
May 8, 2022 3:21 AM
#59
deg said: again international audience can easily understand this if they just put some extra effort.Sanjii_1234 said: deg said: @Skypiean @Sanjii_1234 only gamblers knows this and young people know gambling like this already? do explain the rules of Pachinko then better than this manga did and how it makes this story more good power and magic system is part of the world rules so yes since they introduce his power is related to Pachinko then its part of the world rules if the author fails to explain things good to a large audience then i consider it not mainstream and im sure a lot will do too no wonder mainstream anime hits are not 2deep4u like this most of the time Firstly stop the "explain shit". If you don't have guts to talk point to point then don't talk on platforms because all you do is to change the topic. Never said pachinko makes story good The technique does so. Pachinko is very famous in Japan, most of the japanese know the rules already. Many card games are prohibited but kids know. It's not the game which itself is confusing, the problem arise because we are not familiar with the terms used in such type of games. He didn't fail. There is no need to explain the obvious. How pachinko is World's rule??? Are you that dumb??? It's part of the technique?? Pachinko is already established game,it's not greed island or heavens arena type tournament game which is needed to be explained. Like togashi didn't explain shogi that's why you can't understand the certain scenes and message of chinmera ant arc. But the main audience understood. Search and understand. Death note?? Stein's gate??? Psycho pass??? Also jjk ain't mainstream??? Please take a look at the sales. Shinchan and doreamon are even more popular. So just watch them if you are so obsessed with mainstream things. Nobody gives a f about whether something is mainstream or not. Also popularity doesn't determine quality especially we got to see "this" in the recent years. again there are international audience too not just japan now start explaining things to people in this thread already to defend this shit chapter again im still reading and enjoying this manga because of the rule of cool like Sukuna and Todo being badass yes Jujutsu Kaisen is mainstream but did this chapter or other big brain chapters already got an anime adaptation? and whats the reaction? you people keep focusing on my words "bad writing" its funny you cannot accept that this Pachinko curse technique is badly explained to the greater audience if you do not have anything new to add then stop quoting me already or start explaining why you think this is good written cursed technique Nobody gives a f wether you read it or not. Big brain people consider simple Animes shit. And dumbasses like you consider big brain Animes as shit I can't find difference between both of this shitty breeds Yet you don't like etlist. Irony at its finest!! Ok btw this was the comment which helped me understand everything very easily And it took less time than even typing on mal lol(big brain, imo you are having a dumb rather than mine being big) "This ability is hard to understand because Pachinko is not as big outside of Japan. Pachinko machines usually have screens that play a video/scene as you play and serve as the “minigame” of the pachinko. The goal of these screen pachinko is to “match 3” by having your balls land in the perfect area 3 times in a row. These areas are usually denoted by the characters from the source material on the screen along with a number. For example a dbz pachinko machine might have Goku as 1, Vegeta as 2, Piccolo as 3, etc similar to how Hakari’s domain has the characters of the love manga be numbers. The scene with all the characters in the railway love manga is simply the screen on the Pachinko machine, it really doesn’t do anything other than show a player’s progress. As you get 2 matches from your pachinko balls landing the scene progresses and if you jackpot it shows the main character of the manga catching the train. If you don’t get a match you go back to the previous scene and have to start matching again. If you match 3 on the final scene you jackpot it shows the main character managing to get to the train on time and Hakari gets a random buff. Where things get interesting is that if the main heroine appears on the screen in the last scene you automatically jackpot regardless of where your ball lands. Think of this as a random crit mechanic that has like a 1/100,000 chance of happening while you’re playing. This is why Charles is begging for that lady to not show up because Hakari had failed to match 3 and his only shot of jackpotting was the divine luck of her appearing. Tldr: Hakari’s domain is he literally plays Pachinko and the love manga scene is just the screen minigame modern pachinko machines have." "No problem, what makes it harder to understand is that Gege throws around terms like "reach" mode and expects the viewer to understand. This is just a Pachinko term that happens when you match 2 and a scene on the screen plays out. This is where Pachinko gets really addicting because in "reach" mode you aren't sure if you got the jackpot match or not so you just have to watch the scene on the screen play out and see if you got it. Usually you didn't and so it just goes back to the previous scene but in certain instances the scene plays out differently and your despair at losing turns into excitement that you might win and then turns into euphoria that you got jackpotted. Hakari's battle with Charles is really focused on "drawing" Charles into the gambling fever of the Reach mode of a Pachinko machine. Charles is drawn into the result of the scene in "reach mode" as if he were a player and experiences the highs and lows of a gambler as it plays out like he won but then has a turnabout and he loses." Now if you have even common sense You can see this is really a cool technique and well written than whole of "some recent popular mainstream Mangas" |
May 8, 2022 4:10 AM
#60
Sanjii_1234 said: deg said: again international audience can easily understand this if they just put some extra effort.Sanjii_1234 said: deg said: bro that's just pathetic@Skypiean @Sanjii_1234 only gamblers knows this and young people know gambling like this already? do explain the rules of Pachinko then better than this manga did and how it makes this story more good power and magic system is part of the world rules so yes since they introduce his power is related to Pachinko then its part of the world rules if the author fails to explain things good to a large audience then i consider it not mainstream and im sure a lot will do too no wonder mainstream anime hits are not 2deep4u like this most of the time Firstly stop the "explain shit". If you don't have guts to talk point to point then don't talk on platforms because all you do is to change the topic. Never said pachinko makes story good The technique does so. Pachinko is very famous in Japan, most of the japanese know the rules already. Many card games are prohibited but kids know. It's not the game which itself is confusing, the problem arise because we are not familiar with the terms used in such type of games. He didn't fail. There is no need to explain the obvious. How pachinko is World's rule??? Are you that dumb??? It's part of the technique?? Pachinko is already established game,it's not greed island or heavens arena type tournament game which is needed to be explained. Like togashi didn't explain shogi that's why you can't understand the certain scenes and message of chinmera ant arc. But the main audience understood. Search and understand. Death note?? Stein's gate??? Psycho pass??? Also jjk ain't mainstream??? Please take a look at the sales. Shinchan and doreamon are even more popular. So just watch them if you are so obsessed with mainstream things. Nobody gives a f about whether something is mainstream or not. Also popularity doesn't determine quality especially we got to see "this" in the recent years. again there are international audience too not just japan now start explaining things to people in this thread already to defend this shit chapter again im still reading and enjoying this manga because of the rule of cool like Sukuna and Todo being badass yes Jujutsu Kaisen is mainstream but did this chapter or other big brain chapters already got an anime adaptation? and whats the reaction? you people keep focusing on my words "bad writing" its funny you cannot accept that this Pachinko curse technique is badly explained to the greater audience if you do not have anything new to add then stop quoting me already or start explaining why you think this is good written cursed technique Nobody gives a f wether you read it or not. Big brain people consider simple Animes shit. And dumbasses like you consider big brain Animes as shit I can't find difference between both of this shitty breeds Yet you don't like etlist. Irony at its finest!! Ok btw this was the comment which helped me understand everything very easily And it took less time than even typing on mal lol(big brain, imo you are having a dumb rather than mine being big) "This ability is hard to understand because Pachinko is not as big outside of Japan. Pachinko machines usually have screens that play a video/scene as you play and serve as the “minigame” of the pachinko. The goal of these screen pachinko is to “match 3” by having your balls land in the perfect area 3 times in a row. These areas are usually denoted by the characters from the source material on the screen along with a number. For example a dbz pachinko machine might have Goku as 1, Vegeta as 2, Piccolo as 3, etc similar to how Hakari’s domain has the characters of the love manga be numbers. The scene with all the characters in the railway love manga is simply the screen on the Pachinko machine, it really doesn’t do anything other than show a player’s progress. As you get 2 matches from your pachinko balls landing the scene progresses and if you jackpot it shows the main character of the manga catching the train. If you don’t get a match you go back to the previous scene and have to start matching again. If you match 3 on the final scene you jackpot it shows the main character managing to get to the train on time and Hakari gets a random buff. Where things get interesting is that if the main heroine appears on the screen in the last scene you automatically jackpot regardless of where your ball lands. Think of this as a random crit mechanic that has like a 1/100,000 chance of happening while you’re playing. This is why Charles is begging for that lady to not show up because Hakari had failed to match 3 and his only shot of jackpotting was the divine luck of her appearing. Tldr: Hakari’s domain is he literally plays Pachinko and the love manga scene is just the screen minigame modern pachinko machines have." "No problem, what makes it harder to understand is that Gege throws around terms like "reach" mode and expects the viewer to understand. This is just a Pachinko term that happens when you match 2 and a scene on the screen plays out. This is where Pachinko gets really addicting because in "reach" mode you aren't sure if you got the jackpot match or not so you just have to watch the scene on the screen play out and see if you got it. Usually you didn't and so it just goes back to the previous scene but in certain instances the scene plays out differently and your despair at losing turns into excitement that you might win and then turns into euphoria that you got jackpotted. Hakari's battle with Charles is really focused on "drawing" Charles into the gambling fever of the Reach mode of a Pachinko machine. Charles is drawn into the result of the scene in "reach mode" as if he were a player and experiences the highs and lows of a gambler as it plays out like he won but then has a turnabout and he loses." Now if you have even common sense You can see this is really a cool technique and well written than whole of "some recent popular mainstream Mangas" ye i did not understand it too and he said it "This ability is hard to understand because Pachinko is not as big outside of Japan." lets see if the anime adaptation can do better explain it in animation form call me dumb whatever you want im looking for ELI5 of this plus you insulting me does not help me motivate to understand it further or read it repeatedly |
May 8, 2022 4:34 AM
#61
deg said: I am not insulting youSanjii_1234 said: deg said: Sanjii_1234 said: deg said: bro that's just pathetic@Skypiean @Sanjii_1234 only gamblers knows this and young people know gambling like this already? do explain the rules of Pachinko then better than this manga did and how it makes this story more good power and magic system is part of the world rules so yes since they introduce his power is related to Pachinko then its part of the world rules if the author fails to explain things good to a large audience then i consider it not mainstream and im sure a lot will do too no wonder mainstream anime hits are not 2deep4u like this most of the time Firstly stop the "explain shit". If you don't have guts to talk point to point then don't talk on platforms because all you do is to change the topic. Never said pachinko makes story good The technique does so. Pachinko is very famous in Japan, most of the japanese know the rules already. Many card games are prohibited but kids know. It's not the game which itself is confusing, the problem arise because we are not familiar with the terms used in such type of games. He didn't fail. There is no need to explain the obvious. How pachinko is World's rule??? Are you that dumb??? It's part of the technique?? Pachinko is already established game,it's not greed island or heavens arena type tournament game which is needed to be explained. Like togashi didn't explain shogi that's why you can't understand the certain scenes and message of chinmera ant arc. But the main audience understood. Search and understand. Death note?? Stein's gate??? Psycho pass??? Also jjk ain't mainstream??? Please take a look at the sales. Shinchan and doreamon are even more popular. So just watch them if you are so obsessed with mainstream things. Nobody gives a f about whether something is mainstream or not. Also popularity doesn't determine quality especially we got to see "this" in the recent years. again there are international audience too not just japan now start explaining things to people in this thread already to defend this shit chapter again im still reading and enjoying this manga because of the rule of cool like Sukuna and Todo being badass yes Jujutsu Kaisen is mainstream but did this chapter or other big brain chapters already got an anime adaptation? and whats the reaction? you people keep focusing on my words "bad writing" its funny you cannot accept that this Pachinko curse technique is badly explained to the greater audience if you do not have anything new to add then stop quoting me already or start explaining why you think this is good written cursed technique Nobody gives a f wether you read it or not. Big brain people consider simple Animes shit. And dumbasses like you consider big brain Animes as shit I can't find difference between both of this shitty breeds Yet you don't like etlist. Irony at its finest!! Ok btw this was the comment which helped me understand everything very easily And it took less time than even typing on mal lol(big brain, imo you are having a dumb rather than mine being big) "This ability is hard to understand because Pachinko is not as big outside of Japan. Pachinko machines usually have screens that play a video/scene as you play and serve as the “minigame” of the pachinko. The goal of these screen pachinko is to “match 3” by having your balls land in the perfect area 3 times in a row. These areas are usually denoted by the characters from the source material on the screen along with a number. For example a dbz pachinko machine might have Goku as 1, Vegeta as 2, Piccolo as 3, etc similar to how Hakari’s domain has the characters of the love manga be numbers. The scene with all the characters in the railway love manga is simply the screen on the Pachinko machine, it really doesn’t do anything other than show a player’s progress. As you get 2 matches from your pachinko balls landing the scene progresses and if you jackpot it shows the main character of the manga catching the train. If you don’t get a match you go back to the previous scene and have to start matching again. If you match 3 on the final scene you jackpot it shows the main character managing to get to the train on time and Hakari gets a random buff. Where things get interesting is that if the main heroine appears on the screen in the last scene you automatically jackpot regardless of where your ball lands. Think of this as a random crit mechanic that has like a 1/100,000 chance of happening while you’re playing. This is why Charles is begging for that lady to not show up because Hakari had failed to match 3 and his only shot of jackpotting was the divine luck of her appearing. Tldr: Hakari’s domain is he literally plays Pachinko and the love manga scene is just the screen minigame modern pachinko machines have." "No problem, what makes it harder to understand is that Gege throws around terms like "reach" mode and expects the viewer to understand. This is just a Pachinko term that happens when you match 2 and a scene on the screen plays out. This is where Pachinko gets really addicting because in "reach" mode you aren't sure if you got the jackpot match or not so you just have to watch the scene on the screen play out and see if you got it. Usually you didn't and so it just goes back to the previous scene but in certain instances the scene plays out differently and your despair at losing turns into excitement that you might win and then turns into euphoria that you got jackpotted. Hakari's battle with Charles is really focused on "drawing" Charles into the gambling fever of the Reach mode of a Pachinko machine. Charles is drawn into the result of the scene in "reach mode" as if he were a player and experiences the highs and lows of a gambler as it plays out like he won but then has a turnabout and he loses." Now if you have even common sense You can see this is really a cool technique and well written than whole of "some recent popular mainstream Mangas" ye i did not understand it too and he said it "This ability is hard to understand because Pachinko is not as big outside of Japan." lets see if the anime adaptation can do better explain it in animation form call me dumb whatever you want im looking for ELI5 of this plus you insulting me does not help me motivate to understand it further or read it repeatedly Sorry if I was harsh but that's not what I intend to do Pachinko contributes 4% to the GDP of Japan It's Hella popular We all know that animangas are directed towards Japanese people So there might be some things which we are not familiar with. If we really want to enjoy then we can search a bit and Mangaka not explaining such things ain't bad writting. It's not like he doesn't explained how this technique works , or how rules work. Rest is up to you. Others including me also found it hard to understand it first but nobody called Mangaka or manga "bad". That's the whole argument here. |
May 8, 2022 4:48 AM
#62
Sanjii_1234 said: deg said: I am not insulting youSanjii_1234 said: deg said: again international audience can easily understand this if they just put some extra effort.Sanjii_1234 said: deg said: bro that's just pathetic@Skypiean @Sanjii_1234 only gamblers knows this and young people know gambling like this already? do explain the rules of Pachinko then better than this manga did and how it makes this story more good power and magic system is part of the world rules so yes since they introduce his power is related to Pachinko then its part of the world rules if the author fails to explain things good to a large audience then i consider it not mainstream and im sure a lot will do too no wonder mainstream anime hits are not 2deep4u like this most of the time Firstly stop the "explain shit". If you don't have guts to talk point to point then don't talk on platforms because all you do is to change the topic. Never said pachinko makes story good The technique does so. Pachinko is very famous in Japan, most of the japanese know the rules already. Many card games are prohibited but kids know. It's not the game which itself is confusing, the problem arise because we are not familiar with the terms used in such type of games. He didn't fail. There is no need to explain the obvious. How pachinko is World's rule??? Are you that dumb??? It's part of the technique?? Pachinko is already established game,it's not greed island or heavens arena type tournament game which is needed to be explained. Like togashi didn't explain shogi that's why you can't understand the certain scenes and message of chinmera ant arc. But the main audience understood. Search and understand. Death note?? Stein's gate??? Psycho pass??? Also jjk ain't mainstream??? Please take a look at the sales. Shinchan and doreamon are even more popular. So just watch them if you are so obsessed with mainstream things. Nobody gives a f about whether something is mainstream or not. Also popularity doesn't determine quality especially we got to see "this" in the recent years. again there are international audience too not just japan now start explaining things to people in this thread already to defend this shit chapter again im still reading and enjoying this manga because of the rule of cool like Sukuna and Todo being badass yes Jujutsu Kaisen is mainstream but did this chapter or other big brain chapters already got an anime adaptation? and whats the reaction? you people keep focusing on my words "bad writing" its funny you cannot accept that this Pachinko curse technique is badly explained to the greater audience if you do not have anything new to add then stop quoting me already or start explaining why you think this is good written cursed technique Nobody gives a f wether you read it or not. Big brain people consider simple Animes shit. And dumbasses like you consider big brain Animes as shit I can't find difference between both of this shitty breeds Yet you don't like etlist. Irony at its finest!! Ok btw this was the comment which helped me understand everything very easily And it took less time than even typing on mal lol(big brain, imo you are having a dumb rather than mine being big) "This ability is hard to understand because Pachinko is not as big outside of Japan. Pachinko machines usually have screens that play a video/scene as you play and serve as the “minigame” of the pachinko. The goal of these screen pachinko is to “match 3” by having your balls land in the perfect area 3 times in a row. These areas are usually denoted by the characters from the source material on the screen along with a number. For example a dbz pachinko machine might have Goku as 1, Vegeta as 2, Piccolo as 3, etc similar to how Hakari’s domain has the characters of the love manga be numbers. The scene with all the characters in the railway love manga is simply the screen on the Pachinko machine, it really doesn’t do anything other than show a player’s progress. As you get 2 matches from your pachinko balls landing the scene progresses and if you jackpot it shows the main character of the manga catching the train. If you don’t get a match you go back to the previous scene and have to start matching again. If you match 3 on the final scene you jackpot it shows the main character managing to get to the train on time and Hakari gets a random buff. Where things get interesting is that if the main heroine appears on the screen in the last scene you automatically jackpot regardless of where your ball lands. Think of this as a random crit mechanic that has like a 1/100,000 chance of happening while you’re playing. This is why Charles is begging for that lady to not show up because Hakari had failed to match 3 and his only shot of jackpotting was the divine luck of her appearing. Tldr: Hakari’s domain is he literally plays Pachinko and the love manga scene is just the screen minigame modern pachinko machines have." "No problem, what makes it harder to understand is that Gege throws around terms like "reach" mode and expects the viewer to understand. This is just a Pachinko term that happens when you match 2 and a scene on the screen plays out. This is where Pachinko gets really addicting because in "reach" mode you aren't sure if you got the jackpot match or not so you just have to watch the scene on the screen play out and see if you got it. Usually you didn't and so it just goes back to the previous scene but in certain instances the scene plays out differently and your despair at losing turns into excitement that you might win and then turns into euphoria that you got jackpotted. Hakari's battle with Charles is really focused on "drawing" Charles into the gambling fever of the Reach mode of a Pachinko machine. Charles is drawn into the result of the scene in "reach mode" as if he were a player and experiences the highs and lows of a gambler as it plays out like he won but then has a turnabout and he loses." Now if you have even common sense You can see this is really a cool technique and well written than whole of "some recent popular mainstream Mangas" ye i did not understand it too and he said it "This ability is hard to understand because Pachinko is not as big outside of Japan." lets see if the anime adaptation can do better explain it in animation form call me dumb whatever you want im looking for ELI5 of this plus you insulting me does not help me motivate to understand it further or read it repeatedly Sorry if I was harsh but that's not what I intend to do Pachinko contributes 4% to the GDP of Japan It's Hella popular We all know that animangas are directed towards Japanese people So there might be some things which we are not familiar with. If we really want to enjoy then we can search a bit and Mangaka not explaining such things ain't bad writting. It's not like he doesn't explained how this technique works , or how rules work. Rest is up to you. Others including me also found it hard to understand it first but nobody called Mangaka or manga "bad". That's the whole argument here. a jackpot will give the user random power up Reach = 2 icons match and waiting for the 3rd icon if it matches too to get the jackpot now what is Hype Level and Preview? plus is this part of Reach concept if not then what is it in terms of Pachinko mechanic? -> Where things get interesting is that if the main heroine appears on the screen in the last scene you automatically jackpot regardless of where your ball lands. Think of this as a random crit mechanic that has like a 1/100,000 chance of happening while you’re playing. |
May 8, 2022 5:05 AM
#63
deg said: Sanjii_1234 said: deg said: Sanjii_1234 said: deg said: again international audience can easily understand this if they just put some extra effort.Sanjii_1234 said: deg said: bro that's just pathetic@Skypiean @Sanjii_1234 only gamblers knows this and young people know gambling like this already? do explain the rules of Pachinko then better than this manga did and how it makes this story more good power and magic system is part of the world rules so yes since they introduce his power is related to Pachinko then its part of the world rules if the author fails to explain things good to a large audience then i consider it not mainstream and im sure a lot will do too no wonder mainstream anime hits are not 2deep4u like this most of the time Firstly stop the "explain shit". If you don't have guts to talk point to point then don't talk on platforms because all you do is to change the topic. Never said pachinko makes story good The technique does so. Pachinko is very famous in Japan, most of the japanese know the rules already. Many card games are prohibited but kids know. It's not the game which itself is confusing, the problem arise because we are not familiar with the terms used in such type of games. He didn't fail. There is no need to explain the obvious. How pachinko is World's rule??? Are you that dumb??? It's part of the technique?? Pachinko is already established game,it's not greed island or heavens arena type tournament game which is needed to be explained. Like togashi didn't explain shogi that's why you can't understand the certain scenes and message of chinmera ant arc. But the main audience understood. Search and understand. Death note?? Stein's gate??? Psycho pass??? Also jjk ain't mainstream??? Please take a look at the sales. Shinchan and doreamon are even more popular. So just watch them if you are so obsessed with mainstream things. Nobody gives a f about whether something is mainstream or not. Also popularity doesn't determine quality especially we got to see "this" in the recent years. again there are international audience too not just japan now start explaining things to people in this thread already to defend this shit chapter again im still reading and enjoying this manga because of the rule of cool like Sukuna and Todo being badass yes Jujutsu Kaisen is mainstream but did this chapter or other big brain chapters already got an anime adaptation? and whats the reaction? you people keep focusing on my words "bad writing" its funny you cannot accept that this Pachinko curse technique is badly explained to the greater audience if you do not have anything new to add then stop quoting me already or start explaining why you think this is good written cursed technique Nobody gives a f wether you read it or not. Big brain people consider simple Animes shit. And dumbasses like you consider big brain Animes as shit I can't find difference between both of this shitty breeds Yet you don't like etlist. Irony at its finest!! Ok btw this was the comment which helped me understand everything very easily And it took less time than even typing on mal lol(big brain, imo you are having a dumb rather than mine being big) "This ability is hard to understand because Pachinko is not as big outside of Japan. Pachinko machines usually have screens that play a video/scene as you play and serve as the “minigame” of the pachinko. The goal of these screen pachinko is to “match 3” by having your balls land in the perfect area 3 times in a row. These areas are usually denoted by the characters from the source material on the screen along with a number. For example a dbz pachinko machine might have Goku as 1, Vegeta as 2, Piccolo as 3, etc similar to how Hakari’s domain has the characters of the love manga be numbers. The scene with all the characters in the railway love manga is simply the screen on the Pachinko machine, it really doesn’t do anything other than show a player’s progress. As you get 2 matches from your pachinko balls landing the scene progresses and if you jackpot it shows the main character of the manga catching the train. If you don’t get a match you go back to the previous scene and have to start matching again. If you match 3 on the final scene you jackpot it shows the main character managing to get to the train on time and Hakari gets a random buff. Where things get interesting is that if the main heroine appears on the screen in the last scene you automatically jackpot regardless of where your ball lands. Think of this as a random crit mechanic that has like a 1/100,000 chance of happening while you’re playing. This is why Charles is begging for that lady to not show up because Hakari had failed to match 3 and his only shot of jackpotting was the divine luck of her appearing. Tldr: Hakari’s domain is he literally plays Pachinko and the love manga scene is just the screen minigame modern pachinko machines have." "No problem, what makes it harder to understand is that Gege throws around terms like "reach" mode and expects the viewer to understand. This is just a Pachinko term that happens when you match 2 and a scene on the screen plays out. This is where Pachinko gets really addicting because in "reach" mode you aren't sure if you got the jackpot match or not so you just have to watch the scene on the screen play out and see if you got it. Usually you didn't and so it just goes back to the previous scene but in certain instances the scene plays out differently and your despair at losing turns into excitement that you might win and then turns into euphoria that you got jackpotted. Hakari's battle with Charles is really focused on "drawing" Charles into the gambling fever of the Reach mode of a Pachinko machine. Charles is drawn into the result of the scene in "reach mode" as if he were a player and experiences the highs and lows of a gambler as it plays out like he won but then has a turnabout and he loses." Now if you have even common sense You can see this is really a cool technique and well written than whole of "some recent popular mainstream Mangas" ye i did not understand it too and he said it "This ability is hard to understand because Pachinko is not as big outside of Japan." lets see if the anime adaptation can do better explain it in animation form call me dumb whatever you want im looking for ELI5 of this plus you insulting me does not help me motivate to understand it further or read it repeatedly Sorry if I was harsh but that's not what I intend to do Pachinko contributes 4% to the GDP of Japan It's Hella popular We all know that animangas are directed towards Japanese people So there might be some things which we are not familiar with. If we really want to enjoy then we can search a bit and Mangaka not explaining such things ain't bad writting. It's not like he doesn't explained how this technique works , or how rules work. Rest is up to you. Others including me also found it hard to understand it first but nobody called Mangaka or manga "bad". That's the whole argument here. a jackpot will give the user random power up Reach = 2 icons match and waiting for the 3rd icon if it matches too to get the jackpot now what is Hype Level and Preview? plus is this part of Reach concept if not then what is it in terms of Pachinko mechanic? -> Where things get interesting is that if the main heroine appears on the screen in the last scene you automatically jackpot regardless of where your ball lands. Think of this as a random crit mechanic that has like a 1/100,000 chance of happening while you’re playing. consider the preview performance as a way to build up audience excitement for a jackpot (they are also hikari's attacks in this case). Power up is imo associated with the vow system of jjk Yes it's part of reach where basically we need to wait for the conclusion on pachinko screen (here in this case the love manga seen) |
May 8, 2022 5:07 AM
#64
Sanjii_1234 said: deg said: Sanjii_1234 said: deg said: I am not insulting youSanjii_1234 said: deg said: again international audience can easily understand this if they just put some extra effort.Sanjii_1234 said: deg said: bro that's just pathetic@Skypiean @Sanjii_1234 only gamblers knows this and young people know gambling like this already? do explain the rules of Pachinko then better than this manga did and how it makes this story more good power and magic system is part of the world rules so yes since they introduce his power is related to Pachinko then its part of the world rules if the author fails to explain things good to a large audience then i consider it not mainstream and im sure a lot will do too no wonder mainstream anime hits are not 2deep4u like this most of the time Firstly stop the "explain shit". If you don't have guts to talk point to point then don't talk on platforms because all you do is to change the topic. Never said pachinko makes story good The technique does so. Pachinko is very famous in Japan, most of the japanese know the rules already. Many card games are prohibited but kids know. It's not the game which itself is confusing, the problem arise because we are not familiar with the terms used in such type of games. He didn't fail. There is no need to explain the obvious. How pachinko is World's rule??? Are you that dumb??? It's part of the technique?? Pachinko is already established game,it's not greed island or heavens arena type tournament game which is needed to be explained. Like togashi didn't explain shogi that's why you can't understand the certain scenes and message of chinmera ant arc. But the main audience understood. Search and understand. Death note?? Stein's gate??? Psycho pass??? Also jjk ain't mainstream??? Please take a look at the sales. Shinchan and doreamon are even more popular. So just watch them if you are so obsessed with mainstream things. Nobody gives a f about whether something is mainstream or not. Also popularity doesn't determine quality especially we got to see "this" in the recent years. again there are international audience too not just japan now start explaining things to people in this thread already to defend this shit chapter again im still reading and enjoying this manga because of the rule of cool like Sukuna and Todo being badass yes Jujutsu Kaisen is mainstream but did this chapter or other big brain chapters already got an anime adaptation? and whats the reaction? you people keep focusing on my words "bad writing" its funny you cannot accept that this Pachinko curse technique is badly explained to the greater audience if you do not have anything new to add then stop quoting me already or start explaining why you think this is good written cursed technique Nobody gives a f wether you read it or not. Big brain people consider simple Animes shit. And dumbasses like you consider big brain Animes as shit I can't find difference between both of this shitty breeds Yet you don't like etlist. Irony at its finest!! Ok btw this was the comment which helped me understand everything very easily And it took less time than even typing on mal lol(big brain, imo you are having a dumb rather than mine being big) "This ability is hard to understand because Pachinko is not as big outside of Japan. Pachinko machines usually have screens that play a video/scene as you play and serve as the “minigame” of the pachinko. The goal of these screen pachinko is to “match 3” by having your balls land in the perfect area 3 times in a row. These areas are usually denoted by the characters from the source material on the screen along with a number. For example a dbz pachinko machine might have Goku as 1, Vegeta as 2, Piccolo as 3, etc similar to how Hakari’s domain has the characters of the love manga be numbers. The scene with all the characters in the railway love manga is simply the screen on the Pachinko machine, it really doesn’t do anything other than show a player’s progress. As you get 2 matches from your pachinko balls landing the scene progresses and if you jackpot it shows the main character of the manga catching the train. If you don’t get a match you go back to the previous scene and have to start matching again. If you match 3 on the final scene you jackpot it shows the main character managing to get to the train on time and Hakari gets a random buff. Where things get interesting is that if the main heroine appears on the screen in the last scene you automatically jackpot regardless of where your ball lands. Think of this as a random crit mechanic that has like a 1/100,000 chance of happening while you’re playing. This is why Charles is begging for that lady to not show up because Hakari had failed to match 3 and his only shot of jackpotting was the divine luck of her appearing. Tldr: Hakari’s domain is he literally plays Pachinko and the love manga scene is just the screen minigame modern pachinko machines have." "No problem, what makes it harder to understand is that Gege throws around terms like "reach" mode and expects the viewer to understand. This is just a Pachinko term that happens when you match 2 and a scene on the screen plays out. This is where Pachinko gets really addicting because in "reach" mode you aren't sure if you got the jackpot match or not so you just have to watch the scene on the screen play out and see if you got it. Usually you didn't and so it just goes back to the previous scene but in certain instances the scene plays out differently and your despair at losing turns into excitement that you might win and then turns into euphoria that you got jackpotted. Hakari's battle with Charles is really focused on "drawing" Charles into the gambling fever of the Reach mode of a Pachinko machine. Charles is drawn into the result of the scene in "reach mode" as if he were a player and experiences the highs and lows of a gambler as it plays out like he won but then has a turnabout and he loses." Now if you have even common sense You can see this is really a cool technique and well written than whole of "some recent popular mainstream Mangas" ye i did not understand it too and he said it "This ability is hard to understand because Pachinko is not as big outside of Japan." lets see if the anime adaptation can do better explain it in animation form call me dumb whatever you want im looking for ELI5 of this plus you insulting me does not help me motivate to understand it further or read it repeatedly Sorry if I was harsh but that's not what I intend to do Pachinko contributes 4% to the GDP of Japan It's Hella popular We all know that animangas are directed towards Japanese people So there might be some things which we are not familiar with. If we really want to enjoy then we can search a bit and Mangaka not explaining such things ain't bad writting. It's not like he doesn't explained how this technique works , or how rules work. Rest is up to you. Others including me also found it hard to understand it first but nobody called Mangaka or manga "bad". That's the whole argument here. a jackpot will give the user random power up Reach = 2 icons match and waiting for the 3rd icon if it matches too to get the jackpot now what is Hype Level and Preview? plus is this part of Reach concept if not then what is it in terms of Pachinko mechanic? -> Where things get interesting is that if the main heroine appears on the screen in the last scene you automatically jackpot regardless of where your ball lands. Think of this as a random crit mechanic that has like a 1/100,000 chance of happening while you’re playing. consider the preview performance as a way to build up audience excitement for a jackpot (they are also hikari's attacks in this case). Power up is imo associated with the vow system of jjk Yes it's part of reach where basically we need to wait for the conclusion on pachinko screen (here in this case the love manga seen) but i thought Reach mechanic is about 2 matching icons then waiting for the 3rd icon to match too to get the jackpot so there is an alternative to or another definition of Reach huh |
May 8, 2022 5:11 AM
#65
deg said: naah you are rightSanjii_1234 said: deg said: Sanjii_1234 said: deg said: I am not insulting youSanjii_1234 said: deg said: again international audience can easily understand this if they just put some extra effort.Sanjii_1234 said: deg said: bro that's just pathetic@Skypiean @Sanjii_1234 only gamblers knows this and young people know gambling like this already? do explain the rules of Pachinko then better than this manga did and how it makes this story more good power and magic system is part of the world rules so yes since they introduce his power is related to Pachinko then its part of the world rules if the author fails to explain things good to a large audience then i consider it not mainstream and im sure a lot will do too no wonder mainstream anime hits are not 2deep4u like this most of the time Firstly stop the "explain shit". If you don't have guts to talk point to point then don't talk on platforms because all you do is to change the topic. Never said pachinko makes story good The technique does so. Pachinko is very famous in Japan, most of the japanese know the rules already. Many card games are prohibited but kids know. It's not the game which itself is confusing, the problem arise because we are not familiar with the terms used in such type of games. He didn't fail. There is no need to explain the obvious. How pachinko is World's rule??? Are you that dumb??? It's part of the technique?? Pachinko is already established game,it's not greed island or heavens arena type tournament game which is needed to be explained. Like togashi didn't explain shogi that's why you can't understand the certain scenes and message of chinmera ant arc. But the main audience understood. Search and understand. Death note?? Stein's gate??? Psycho pass??? Also jjk ain't mainstream??? Please take a look at the sales. Shinchan and doreamon are even more popular. So just watch them if you are so obsessed with mainstream things. Nobody gives a f about whether something is mainstream or not. Also popularity doesn't determine quality especially we got to see "this" in the recent years. again there are international audience too not just japan now start explaining things to people in this thread already to defend this shit chapter again im still reading and enjoying this manga because of the rule of cool like Sukuna and Todo being badass yes Jujutsu Kaisen is mainstream but did this chapter or other big brain chapters already got an anime adaptation? and whats the reaction? you people keep focusing on my words "bad writing" its funny you cannot accept that this Pachinko curse technique is badly explained to the greater audience if you do not have anything new to add then stop quoting me already or start explaining why you think this is good written cursed technique Nobody gives a f wether you read it or not. Big brain people consider simple Animes shit. And dumbasses like you consider big brain Animes as shit I can't find difference between both of this shitty breeds Yet you don't like etlist. Irony at its finest!! Ok btw this was the comment which helped me understand everything very easily And it took less time than even typing on mal lol(big brain, imo you are having a dumb rather than mine being big) "This ability is hard to understand because Pachinko is not as big outside of Japan. Pachinko machines usually have screens that play a video/scene as you play and serve as the “minigame” of the pachinko. The goal of these screen pachinko is to “match 3” by having your balls land in the perfect area 3 times in a row. These areas are usually denoted by the characters from the source material on the screen along with a number. For example a dbz pachinko machine might have Goku as 1, Vegeta as 2, Piccolo as 3, etc similar to how Hakari’s domain has the characters of the love manga be numbers. The scene with all the characters in the railway love manga is simply the screen on the Pachinko machine, it really doesn’t do anything other than show a player’s progress. As you get 2 matches from your pachinko balls landing the scene progresses and if you jackpot it shows the main character of the manga catching the train. If you don’t get a match you go back to the previous scene and have to start matching again. If you match 3 on the final scene you jackpot it shows the main character managing to get to the train on time and Hakari gets a random buff. Where things get interesting is that if the main heroine appears on the screen in the last scene you automatically jackpot regardless of where your ball lands. Think of this as a random crit mechanic that has like a 1/100,000 chance of happening while you’re playing. This is why Charles is begging for that lady to not show up because Hakari had failed to match 3 and his only shot of jackpotting was the divine luck of her appearing. Tldr: Hakari’s domain is he literally plays Pachinko and the love manga scene is just the screen minigame modern pachinko machines have." "No problem, what makes it harder to understand is that Gege throws around terms like "reach" mode and expects the viewer to understand. This is just a Pachinko term that happens when you match 2 and a scene on the screen plays out. This is where Pachinko gets really addicting because in "reach" mode you aren't sure if you got the jackpot match or not so you just have to watch the scene on the screen play out and see if you got it. Usually you didn't and so it just goes back to the previous scene but in certain instances the scene plays out differently and your despair at losing turns into excitement that you might win and then turns into euphoria that you got jackpotted. Hakari's battle with Charles is really focused on "drawing" Charles into the gambling fever of the Reach mode of a Pachinko machine. Charles is drawn into the result of the scene in "reach mode" as if he were a player and experiences the highs and lows of a gambler as it plays out like he won but then has a turnabout and he loses." Now if you have even common sense You can see this is really a cool technique and well written than whole of "some recent popular mainstream Mangas" ye i did not understand it too and he said it "This ability is hard to understand because Pachinko is not as big outside of Japan." lets see if the anime adaptation can do better explain it in animation form call me dumb whatever you want im looking for ELI5 of this plus you insulting me does not help me motivate to understand it further or read it repeatedly Sorry if I was harsh but that's not what I intend to do Pachinko contributes 4% to the GDP of Japan It's Hella popular We all know that animangas are directed towards Japanese people So there might be some things which we are not familiar with. If we really want to enjoy then we can search a bit and Mangaka not explaining such things ain't bad writting. It's not like he doesn't explained how this technique works , or how rules work. Rest is up to you. Others including me also found it hard to understand it first but nobody called Mangaka or manga "bad". That's the whole argument here. a jackpot will give the user random power up Reach = 2 icons match and waiting for the 3rd icon if it matches too to get the jackpot now what is Hype Level and Preview? plus is this part of Reach concept if not then what is it in terms of Pachinko mechanic? -> Where things get interesting is that if the main heroine appears on the screen in the last scene you automatically jackpot regardless of where your ball lands. Think of this as a random crit mechanic that has like a 1/100,000 chance of happening while you’re playing. consider the preview performance as a way to build up audience excitement for a jackpot (they are also hikari's attacks in this case). Power up is imo associated with the vow system of jjk Yes it's part of reach where basically we need to wait for the conclusion on pachinko screen (here in this case the love manga seen) but i thought Reach mechanic is about 2 matching icons then waiting for the 3rd icon to match too to get the jackpot so there is an alternative to or another definition of Reach huh Actually you can consider this as some kind of seperate mechanism or even luck or error In which you lost the third roll but still heroine appeared on the screen then it's a jackpot |
May 8, 2022 5:16 AM
#66
Sanjii_1234 said: deg said: naah you are rightSanjii_1234 said: deg said: Sanjii_1234 said: deg said: I am not insulting youSanjii_1234 said: deg said: again international audience can easily understand this if they just put some extra effort.Sanjii_1234 said: deg said: bro that's just pathetic@Skypiean @Sanjii_1234 only gamblers knows this and young people know gambling like this already? do explain the rules of Pachinko then better than this manga did and how it makes this story more good power and magic system is part of the world rules so yes since they introduce his power is related to Pachinko then its part of the world rules if the author fails to explain things good to a large audience then i consider it not mainstream and im sure a lot will do too no wonder mainstream anime hits are not 2deep4u like this most of the time Firstly stop the "explain shit". If you don't have guts to talk point to point then don't talk on platforms because all you do is to change the topic. Never said pachinko makes story good The technique does so. Pachinko is very famous in Japan, most of the japanese know the rules already. Many card games are prohibited but kids know. It's not the game which itself is confusing, the problem arise because we are not familiar with the terms used in such type of games. He didn't fail. There is no need to explain the obvious. How pachinko is World's rule??? Are you that dumb??? It's part of the technique?? Pachinko is already established game,it's not greed island or heavens arena type tournament game which is needed to be explained. Like togashi didn't explain shogi that's why you can't understand the certain scenes and message of chinmera ant arc. But the main audience understood. Search and understand. Death note?? Stein's gate??? Psycho pass??? Also jjk ain't mainstream??? Please take a look at the sales. Shinchan and doreamon are even more popular. So just watch them if you are so obsessed with mainstream things. Nobody gives a f about whether something is mainstream or not. Also popularity doesn't determine quality especially we got to see "this" in the recent years. again there are international audience too not just japan now start explaining things to people in this thread already to defend this shit chapter again im still reading and enjoying this manga because of the rule of cool like Sukuna and Todo being badass yes Jujutsu Kaisen is mainstream but did this chapter or other big brain chapters already got an anime adaptation? and whats the reaction? you people keep focusing on my words "bad writing" its funny you cannot accept that this Pachinko curse technique is badly explained to the greater audience if you do not have anything new to add then stop quoting me already or start explaining why you think this is good written cursed technique Nobody gives a f wether you read it or not. Big brain people consider simple Animes shit. And dumbasses like you consider big brain Animes as shit I can't find difference between both of this shitty breeds Yet you don't like etlist. Irony at its finest!! Ok btw this was the comment which helped me understand everything very easily And it took less time than even typing on mal lol(big brain, imo you are having a dumb rather than mine being big) "This ability is hard to understand because Pachinko is not as big outside of Japan. Pachinko machines usually have screens that play a video/scene as you play and serve as the “minigame” of the pachinko. The goal of these screen pachinko is to “match 3” by having your balls land in the perfect area 3 times in a row. These areas are usually denoted by the characters from the source material on the screen along with a number. For example a dbz pachinko machine might have Goku as 1, Vegeta as 2, Piccolo as 3, etc similar to how Hakari’s domain has the characters of the love manga be numbers. The scene with all the characters in the railway love manga is simply the screen on the Pachinko machine, it really doesn’t do anything other than show a player’s progress. As you get 2 matches from your pachinko balls landing the scene progresses and if you jackpot it shows the main character of the manga catching the train. If you don’t get a match you go back to the previous scene and have to start matching again. If you match 3 on the final scene you jackpot it shows the main character managing to get to the train on time and Hakari gets a random buff. Where things get interesting is that if the main heroine appears on the screen in the last scene you automatically jackpot regardless of where your ball lands. Think of this as a random crit mechanic that has like a 1/100,000 chance of happening while you’re playing. This is why Charles is begging for that lady to not show up because Hakari had failed to match 3 and his only shot of jackpotting was the divine luck of her appearing. Tldr: Hakari’s domain is he literally plays Pachinko and the love manga scene is just the screen minigame modern pachinko machines have." "No problem, what makes it harder to understand is that Gege throws around terms like "reach" mode and expects the viewer to understand. This is just a Pachinko term that happens when you match 2 and a scene on the screen plays out. This is where Pachinko gets really addicting because in "reach" mode you aren't sure if you got the jackpot match or not so you just have to watch the scene on the screen play out and see if you got it. Usually you didn't and so it just goes back to the previous scene but in certain instances the scene plays out differently and your despair at losing turns into excitement that you might win and then turns into euphoria that you got jackpotted. Hakari's battle with Charles is really focused on "drawing" Charles into the gambling fever of the Reach mode of a Pachinko machine. Charles is drawn into the result of the scene in "reach mode" as if he were a player and experiences the highs and lows of a gambler as it plays out like he won but then has a turnabout and he loses." Now if you have even common sense You can see this is really a cool technique and well written than whole of "some recent popular mainstream Mangas" ye i did not understand it too and he said it "This ability is hard to understand because Pachinko is not as big outside of Japan." lets see if the anime adaptation can do better explain it in animation form call me dumb whatever you want im looking for ELI5 of this plus you insulting me does not help me motivate to understand it further or read it repeatedly Sorry if I was harsh but that's not what I intend to do Pachinko contributes 4% to the GDP of Japan It's Hella popular We all know that animangas are directed towards Japanese people So there might be some things which we are not familiar with. If we really want to enjoy then we can search a bit and Mangaka not explaining such things ain't bad writting. It's not like he doesn't explained how this technique works , or how rules work. Rest is up to you. Others including me also found it hard to understand it first but nobody called Mangaka or manga "bad". That's the whole argument here. a jackpot will give the user random power up Reach = 2 icons match and waiting for the 3rd icon if it matches too to get the jackpot now what is Hype Level and Preview? plus is this part of Reach concept if not then what is it in terms of Pachinko mechanic? -> Where things get interesting is that if the main heroine appears on the screen in the last scene you automatically jackpot regardless of where your ball lands. Think of this as a random crit mechanic that has like a 1/100,000 chance of happening while you’re playing. consider the preview performance as a way to build up audience excitement for a jackpot (they are also hikari's attacks in this case). Power up is imo associated with the vow system of jjk Yes it's part of reach where basically we need to wait for the conclusion on pachinko screen (here in this case the love manga seen) but i thought Reach mechanic is about 2 matching icons then waiting for the 3rd icon to match too to get the jackpot so there is an alternative to or another definition of Reach huh Actually you can consider this as some kind of seperate mechanism or even luck or error In which you lost the third roll but still heroine appeared on the screen then it's a jackpot im less confuse now but really if you just explained this in the first few post then this argument will not reach 2 pages lol anyway better late than never still im not gonna back down on calling this bad writing for making it overcomplicated as it is or the english translation made it overcomplicated |
May 8, 2022 5:18 AM
#67
deg said: you got a point here.Sanjii_1234 said: deg said: Sanjii_1234 said: deg said: Sanjii_1234 said: deg said: I am not insulting youSanjii_1234 said: deg said: again international audience can easily understand this if they just put some extra effort.Sanjii_1234 said: deg said: bro that's just pathetic@Skypiean @Sanjii_1234 only gamblers knows this and young people know gambling like this already? do explain the rules of Pachinko then better than this manga did and how it makes this story more good power and magic system is part of the world rules so yes since they introduce his power is related to Pachinko then its part of the world rules if the author fails to explain things good to a large audience then i consider it not mainstream and im sure a lot will do too no wonder mainstream anime hits are not 2deep4u like this most of the time Firstly stop the "explain shit". If you don't have guts to talk point to point then don't talk on platforms because all you do is to change the topic. Never said pachinko makes story good The technique does so. Pachinko is very famous in Japan, most of the japanese know the rules already. Many card games are prohibited but kids know. It's not the game which itself is confusing, the problem arise because we are not familiar with the terms used in such type of games. He didn't fail. There is no need to explain the obvious. How pachinko is World's rule??? Are you that dumb??? It's part of the technique?? Pachinko is already established game,it's not greed island or heavens arena type tournament game which is needed to be explained. Like togashi didn't explain shogi that's why you can't understand the certain scenes and message of chinmera ant arc. But the main audience understood. Search and understand. Death note?? Stein's gate??? Psycho pass??? Also jjk ain't mainstream??? Please take a look at the sales. Shinchan and doreamon are even more popular. So just watch them if you are so obsessed with mainstream things. Nobody gives a f about whether something is mainstream or not. Also popularity doesn't determine quality especially we got to see "this" in the recent years. again there are international audience too not just japan now start explaining things to people in this thread already to defend this shit chapter again im still reading and enjoying this manga because of the rule of cool like Sukuna and Todo being badass yes Jujutsu Kaisen is mainstream but did this chapter or other big brain chapters already got an anime adaptation? and whats the reaction? you people keep focusing on my words "bad writing" its funny you cannot accept that this Pachinko curse technique is badly explained to the greater audience if you do not have anything new to add then stop quoting me already or start explaining why you think this is good written cursed technique Nobody gives a f wether you read it or not. Big brain people consider simple Animes shit. And dumbasses like you consider big brain Animes as shit I can't find difference between both of this shitty breeds Yet you don't like etlist. Irony at its finest!! Ok btw this was the comment which helped me understand everything very easily And it took less time than even typing on mal lol(big brain, imo you are having a dumb rather than mine being big) "This ability is hard to understand because Pachinko is not as big outside of Japan. Pachinko machines usually have screens that play a video/scene as you play and serve as the “minigame” of the pachinko. The goal of these screen pachinko is to “match 3” by having your balls land in the perfect area 3 times in a row. These areas are usually denoted by the characters from the source material on the screen along with a number. For example a dbz pachinko machine might have Goku as 1, Vegeta as 2, Piccolo as 3, etc similar to how Hakari’s domain has the characters of the love manga be numbers. The scene with all the characters in the railway love manga is simply the screen on the Pachinko machine, it really doesn’t do anything other than show a player’s progress. As you get 2 matches from your pachinko balls landing the scene progresses and if you jackpot it shows the main character of the manga catching the train. If you don’t get a match you go back to the previous scene and have to start matching again. If you match 3 on the final scene you jackpot it shows the main character managing to get to the train on time and Hakari gets a random buff. Where things get interesting is that if the main heroine appears on the screen in the last scene you automatically jackpot regardless of where your ball lands. Think of this as a random crit mechanic that has like a 1/100,000 chance of happening while you’re playing. This is why Charles is begging for that lady to not show up because Hakari had failed to match 3 and his only shot of jackpotting was the divine luck of her appearing. Tldr: Hakari’s domain is he literally plays Pachinko and the love manga scene is just the screen minigame modern pachinko machines have." "No problem, what makes it harder to understand is that Gege throws around terms like "reach" mode and expects the viewer to understand. This is just a Pachinko term that happens when you match 2 and a scene on the screen plays out. This is where Pachinko gets really addicting because in "reach" mode you aren't sure if you got the jackpot match or not so you just have to watch the scene on the screen play out and see if you got it. Usually you didn't and so it just goes back to the previous scene but in certain instances the scene plays out differently and your despair at losing turns into excitement that you might win and then turns into euphoria that you got jackpotted. Hakari's battle with Charles is really focused on "drawing" Charles into the gambling fever of the Reach mode of a Pachinko machine. Charles is drawn into the result of the scene in "reach mode" as if he were a player and experiences the highs and lows of a gambler as it plays out like he won but then has a turnabout and he loses." Now if you have even common sense You can see this is really a cool technique and well written than whole of "some recent popular mainstream Mangas" ye i did not understand it too and he said it "This ability is hard to understand because Pachinko is not as big outside of Japan." lets see if the anime adaptation can do better explain it in animation form call me dumb whatever you want im looking for ELI5 of this plus you insulting me does not help me motivate to understand it further or read it repeatedly Sorry if I was harsh but that's not what I intend to do Pachinko contributes 4% to the GDP of Japan It's Hella popular We all know that animangas are directed towards Japanese people So there might be some things which we are not familiar with. If we really want to enjoy then we can search a bit and Mangaka not explaining such things ain't bad writting. It's not like he doesn't explained how this technique works , or how rules work. Rest is up to you. Others including me also found it hard to understand it first but nobody called Mangaka or manga "bad". That's the whole argument here. a jackpot will give the user random power up Reach = 2 icons match and waiting for the 3rd icon if it matches too to get the jackpot now what is Hype Level and Preview? plus is this part of Reach concept if not then what is it in terms of Pachinko mechanic? -> Where things get interesting is that if the main heroine appears on the screen in the last scene you automatically jackpot regardless of where your ball lands. Think of this as a random crit mechanic that has like a 1/100,000 chance of happening while you’re playing. consider the preview performance as a way to build up audience excitement for a jackpot (they are also hikari's attacks in this case). Power up is imo associated with the vow system of jjk Yes it's part of reach where basically we need to wait for the conclusion on pachinko screen (here in this case the love manga seen) but i thought Reach mechanic is about 2 matching icons then waiting for the 3rd icon to match too to get the jackpot so there is an alternative to or another definition of Reach huh Actually you can consider this as some kind of seperate mechanism or even luck or error In which you lost the third roll but still heroine appeared on the screen then it's a jackpot im less confuse now but really if you just explained this in the first few post then argument will not reach 2 pages lol anyway better late than never That's surely mistake from my side and sorry for that. sorry if I was harsh and thanks for the discussion. Have a great day. |
May 8, 2022 8:21 AM
#69
deg said: i called it bad writing in general because a lot of people in this thread like me fail to fully understand nor even grasp the basics to understand this chapter and this is not the first time too with this manga, like i said at least with how boring Hunter x Hunter is with its too much text to read it at least tries so hard to make things like it ideas and concepts as standalone as a story or rules your argument is like with those paid critics are saying "its 2deep4u so you did not appreciate it" The people in this thread =/= the entire fandom. A lot of people I know did some basic research and were able to mostly understand the Domain in less than 5 to 10 minutes. It isn't that difficult especially because it is us reading something that isn't written for us. So we need to put it some effort to understand it. Nobody made the too deep for you argument. IDK what you are on about. |
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May 8, 2022 8:33 AM
#70
| Just read the official translation and it is much easier to understand. |
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May 8, 2022 10:42 AM
#71
| Basically, pachinko is a game where they dress up gambling with pretty colors and animations to distract you from the fact that you're losing all your money. Hakari's domain is a domain that's dressed up with pachinko references to distract you from the fact that he's just stalling for a jackpot and about to punch you in the face! |
May 8, 2022 10:53 AM
#72
troilus_05s said: deg said: i called it bad writing in general because a lot of people in this thread like me fail to fully understand nor even grasp the basics to understand this chapter and this is not the first time too with this manga, like i said at least with how boring Hunter x Hunter is with its too much text to read it at least tries so hard to make things like it ideas and concepts as standalone as a story or rules your argument is like with those paid critics are saying "its 2deep4u so you did not appreciate it" The people in this thread =/= the entire fandom. A lot of people I know did some basic research and were able to mostly understand the Domain in less than 5 to 10 minutes. It isn't that difficult especially because it is us reading something that isn't written for us. So we need to put it some effort to understand it. Nobody made the too deep for you argument. IDK what you are on about. and the people you know is not also the entire fandom, we have the same small sample size so lets leave it at that 2deep4u here just means being big brain like doing research and understanding it and yes the official scanlation is indeed more easier to understand |
May 8, 2022 11:11 AM
#73
| Holy sheet the amount of post here LMAO troilus_05s said: deg said: i called it bad writing in general because a lot of people in this thread like me fail to fully understand nor even grasp the basics to understand this chapter and this is not the first time too with this manga, like i said at least with how boring Hunter x Hunter is with its too much text to read it at least tries so hard to make things like it ideas and concepts as standalone as a story or rules your argument is like with those paid critics are saying "its 2deep4u so you did not appreciate it" The people in this thread =/= the entire fandom. A lot of people I know did some basic research and were able to mostly understand the Domain in less than 5 to 10 minutes. It isn't that difficult especially because it is us reading something that isn't written for us. So we need to put it some effort to understand it. Nobody made the too deep for you argument. IDK what you are on about. Oh boy A LOT OF people on Twitter are in confusion with Hakari's technique too so it's not surprising to where everyone is complaining about the complexity in this chapter lmao but honestly I would be one of those who would do take some effort for a lil bit of research to understand some terms here and there, however, there are some who doesn't just because they don't want to waste their time for something that may or may not contribute as the story progresses lol + there are already many posts explaining Hakari's Domain here that was pretty helpful because they involve some color on it for easier visualization lol, this is one of them: https://twitter.com/bootleghakari/status/1523317957534916609 |
May 8, 2022 11:34 AM
#74
| Hakari is basically living inside one of those anime/manga based pachinko machines where scenes play out and the story doesn't go off rails as long as your game isn't going badly. It's actually pretty hilarious but I can see it being confusing to anybody who hasn't seen crazy ass Japanese pachinko machines. |
May 8, 2022 12:01 PM
#75
nakkki said: Togashi wrote this chapter, can't convince me otherwise Yes, strong HxH exam / YYH's Sensui's arc vibes here. |
May 8, 2022 12:21 PM
#76
CQLLIST said: Holy sheet the amount of post here LMAO troilus_05s said: deg said: i called it bad writing in general because a lot of people in this thread like me fail to fully understand nor even grasp the basics to understand this chapter and this is not the first time too with this manga, like i said at least with how boring Hunter x Hunter is with its too much text to read it at least tries so hard to make things like it ideas and concepts as standalone as a story or rules your argument is like with those paid critics are saying "its 2deep4u so you did not appreciate it" The people in this thread =/= the entire fandom. A lot of people I know did some basic research and were able to mostly understand the Domain in less than 5 to 10 minutes. It isn't that difficult especially because it is us reading something that isn't written for us. So we need to put it some effort to understand it. Nobody made the too deep for you argument. IDK what you are on about. Oh boy A LOT OF people on Twitter are in confusion with Hakari's technique too so it's not surprising to where everyone is complaining about the complexity in this chapter lmao but honestly I would be one of those who would do take some effort for a lil bit of research to understand some terms here and there, however, there are some who doesn't just because they don't want to waste their time for something that may or may not contribute as the story progresses lol + there are already many posts explaining Hakari's Domain here that was pretty helpful because they involve some color on it for easier visualization lol, this is one of them: https://twitter.com/bootleghakari/status/1523317957534916609 just checked out reddit and ye a lot are confuse with this chapter too https://www.reddit.com/r/JuJutsuKaisen/comments/ul3ky9/jujutsu_kaisen_chapter_183_links_discussion/ |
May 8, 2022 1:22 PM
#78
| ye even twitter has a lot of confuse fans about this chapter https://twitter.com/search?q=%23JujutsuKaisen183 |
May 8, 2022 1:31 PM
#79
| Damn People really just stay confused like a dumbass It's pretty funny to see that these people like to be confused and criticise the Manga while the one that really wanna enjoy do some effort after being confused and really enjoy this Also the argument that technique of one of the strongest character is unnecessary to understand is dumb Then these will be the first to say "see asspull, see plot convenience" *Sigh* It's still Hard to find good criticism on mal if found its labelled as either haters stuff or etlist stuff. |
May 8, 2022 1:33 PM
#80
| Gege you creative bastard!! Hakari’s DE is crazy fun lmao |
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May 8, 2022 1:40 PM
#81
| at least the author is self aware https://twitter.com/king_jin_woo/status/1523322786889932802 |
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May 8, 2022 2:53 PM
#82
deg said: i don't get how you can read manga often and not understand that the next chapter will probably explain more about his DE. A lot of chapters in a lot of manga don't make sense stand alone. Keep in mind that this manga is ongoing. And the fight doesn't seem over, at least to me. Just wait on the future chapters if you're still confused. The manga was understandable for the most part if you just take the time to understand it@Skypiean @Sanjii_1234 only gamblers knows this and young people know gambling like this already? do explain the rules of Pachinko then better than this manga did and how it makes this story more good power and magic system is part of the world rules so yes since they introduce his power is related to Pachinko then its part of the world rules if the author fails to explain things good to a large audience then i consider it not mainstream and im sure a lot will do too no wonder mainstream anime hits are not 2deep4u like this most of the time |
May 8, 2022 3:36 PM
#83
| So I think the way this works is that 1. Hakari has to hit Charles with a visual effect 2. He is one away from winning the jackpot (Riichi) 3. A Riichi scenario plays and if Hakari is lucky he hits the Jackpot. |
May 8, 2022 4:48 PM
#84
| Welp, at least Gege didnt blue balls us again. Pachinko domain kinda silly, but it makes sense its gamble related considering how Hakari is. His domain seems flawed since he can be killed before hitting Jackpot, so it seems like it will only work against someone weaker than him, but then what would be the point? Sure he'll get boosted hitting jackpots against a stronger enemy and eventually be able to overpower it, but if he was fighting someone a lot stronger than him, lets say Gojo level, he would be killed inside his domain before being able to boost himself to counter. Overall seems like a weak domain, a lot of characters would defeat Hakari I believe. |
May 8, 2022 9:29 PM
#85
| "Don't info dump me with all that garbage" LMAO. Jesus Christ Gege, what goes through that mind of yours. Hakari out here with his pachinko ass domain while a romcom is playing in the background, absolutely fucking based. |
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May 8, 2022 10:45 PM
#86
CQLLIST said: Holy sheet the amount of post here LMAO troilus_05s said: deg said: i called it bad writing in general because a lot of people in this thread like me fail to fully understand nor even grasp the basics to understand this chapter and this is not the first time too with this manga, like i said at least with how boring Hunter x Hunter is with its too much text to read it at least tries so hard to make things like it ideas and concepts as standalone as a story or rules your argument is like with those paid critics are saying "its 2deep4u so you did not appreciate it" The people in this thread =/= the entire fandom. A lot of people I know did some basic research and were able to mostly understand the Domain in less than 5 to 10 minutes. It isn't that difficult especially because it is us reading something that isn't written for us. So we need to put it some effort to understand it. Nobody made the too deep for you argument. IDK what you are on about. Oh boy A LOT OF people on Twitter are in confusion with Hakari's technique too so it's not surprising to where everyone is complaining about the complexity in this chapter lmao but honestly I would be one of those who would do take some effort for a lil bit of research to understand some terms here and there, however, there are some who doesn't just because they don't want to waste their time for something that may or may not contribute as the story progresses lol + there are already many posts explaining Hakari's Domain here that was pretty helpful because they involve some color on it for easier visualization lol, this is one of them: https://twitter.com/bootleghakari/status/1523317957534916609 Oh yeah just saw that twitter thread posted on reddit. Thanks for it though. That's a good explanation. |
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May 9, 2022 3:56 AM
#87
| Of all possible attacks I wasn't expecting anime cutscene pachinko. |
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May 15, 2022 1:32 PM
#89
| lol at the info dump comment. I'll admit when I saw all the info dump, I was pretty confused to how this was going to work but reading the ensuing chapter, I found it very easy to follow. Like we see them play out with Charles narrating to help clarify the stakes and relevant mechanics. I'm a bit surprised to see so much widespread confusion over this, I don't think you need to know Pachinko to understand how this ability works. Like it'll help, and it'll give the ability more flavour, but I think that's largely all it is. The dramatics of the ability being Hakari's success derives on the visual scenario playing out in his favour, is really all this chapter requires you to know. Knowing every intricate detail is just a bonus, the base mechanics of the ability, activate scenario, scenario either jackpots or doesn't, jackpot gives big buff, is plainly laid out in this chapter. |
May 15, 2022 1:42 PM
#90
Terrestrious said: lol at the info dump comment. I'll admit when I saw all the info dump, I was pretty confused to how this was going to work but reading the ensuing chapter, I found it very easy to follow. Like we see them play out with Charles narrating to help clarify the stakes and relevant mechanics. True. Even Charles says that the detailed rules are garbage. You just need to know the basic rules to understand it. |
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May 24, 2022 5:42 AM
#91
| The chapters are getting pretty complicated but still it's both interesting and fun to read em!!! |
Oct 11, 2022 5:02 AM
#92
| Here we go again with those weird power systems, lol I understand it little bit but not completely! |
Oct 25, 2023 10:52 PM
#95
| Gege must be enjoying toying with our brains. First Naobito's cursed technique and now this domain. The cursed technique's and domains just keep getting more and more complicated. |
Jan 9, 2024 2:31 PM
#96
| Uhh yeah i don’t really care for this ability or fight.. I definitely take Yuta over Hakari 😅 haha |
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Jan 25, 2024 9:19 AM
#97
| amazing domain!!! Data game??! kekeke |
Feb 1, 2024 8:25 AM
#98
| Just WTF was that. |
| "When they're alive, you can enjoy watching them struggle. When they're dead, you can enjoy tearing out their guts. Tales are things you get to enjoy twice." |
Feb 1, 2024 11:46 PM
#99
| i think i would've been less confused had i skipped the original explanation. with all the different variables and percentages (some of which weren't even fucking explained), it made it a lot more difficult to parse lmao |
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