| Well I see it as a running gag in the anime that loid sees yor as a normal citizen and doesn't get suspicious regardless of what highly trained move she does. |
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| Its not really a stretch. I doubt his organization even knows about her assassin group (yet) considering Yor's background check came out clean. The biggest stretch is Yor being oblivious to killing intent, guns, or grenades when they were being chased. But we do see more of that ditsy airheadedness in the future and its somewhat justified with her backstory they are going to cover. Its somewhat consistent. Somewhat. |
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| Fuck, you did done do it, huh? Get ready for "it's a comedy" "it's fiction" "why are you taking it seriously". I briefly mentioned this issue before, then got attacked by people who decided to give up understanding writing for mindlessly getting offended when their favorite show gets some minor criticism. |
| He should be, but ultimately I feel like he has to miss some things for the show to work as well as it does. It will make him finding out about Anya and Yor later even cooler/more meaningful. |
Potatoboy11 said: Fuck, you did done do it, huh? Get ready for "it's a comedy" "it's fiction" "why are you taking it seriously". I briefly mentioned this issue before, then got attacked by people who decided to give up understanding writing for mindlessly getting offended when their favorite show gets some minor criticism. then you didn't said your criticism or your points correctly cause in this thread here you can see most of the people expressing their opinions without attacking anyone. |
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| Yeah I guess soft spot for Anya made him really weak. Hopefully there aren't any enemies looking to get rid of Twilight around. |
TheFounder131 said: you can check the comment above you. Anyways, here if you want to check if it's valid criticism or not on your own: Potatoboy11 said: Fuck, you did done do it, huh? Get ready for "it's a comedy" "it's fiction" "why are you taking it seriously". I briefly mentioned this issue before, then got attacked by people who decided to give up understanding writing for mindlessly getting offended when their favorite show gets some minor criticism. then you didn't said your criticism or your points correctly cause in this thread here you can see most of the people expressing their opinions without attacking anyone. |
Potatoboy11 said: TheFounder131 said: you can check the comment above you. Anyways, here if you want to check if it's valid criticism or not on your own: then you didn't said your criticism or your points correctly cause in this thread here you can see most of the people expressing their opinions without attacking anyone. Dude... Your whole "criticism" was based on false perception of Loid being totally clueless that Anya could read his mind. You got proven wrong by the show. You just didn't pay enough attention. Anyways, I don't get why you're so upset about "attacks" occurring. More people need to google the definition of comedy these days. If you're going to "criticize" comedy for the lack of seriousness, it's only natural that some people will get tired of your shit and feel "offended" by such level of ignorance and maybe even stupidity. Take the last episode for instance. Loid starts a party with agents parachuted in another nation! I bet there will be people who'll criticize the absurdity of this event. And yes, it indeed is absurd, but the show is a COMEDY, and in order to enjoy COMEDY you need to give pass to unserious moments, otherwise you won't have FUN! Funny part is, these "critics" will later rate the show poorly, unaware to the fact that their sense of humor (its absence) is the cause of it all. |
Sigmar-Unberogen said: I must've already mentioned there that disregarding stuff with the excuses of "comedy" "not serious" "fiction"... is only proof to poor writing. And that is my problem, not with the show itself, but with its fandom.Potatoboy11 said: you can check the comment above you. Anyways, here if you want to check if it's valid criticism or not on your own: Dude... Your whole "criticism" was based on false perception of Loid being totally clueless that Anya could read his mind. You got proven wrong by the show. You just didn't pay enough attention. Anyways, I don't get why you're so upset about "attacks" occurring. More people need to google the definition of comedy these days. If you're going to "criticize" comedy for the lack of seriousness, it's only natural that some people will get tired of your shit and feel "offended" by such level of ignorance and maybe even stupidity. Take the last episode for instance. Loid starts a party with agents parachuted in another nation! I bet there will be people who'll criticize the absurdity of this event. And yes, it indeed is absurd, but the show is a COMEDY, and in order to enjoy COMEDY you need to give pass to unserious moments, otherwise you won't have FUN! Funny part is, these "critics" will later rate the show poorly, unaware to the fact that their sense of humor (its absence) is the cause of it all. You should probably know of Gintama, which is the highest rated comedy anime of all time; it is not serious, and it has no realistic aspects, since, of course, it's fiction. But none of the characters, story, or world lacked any details. Gintama is still one of the most well written stories I've ever seen, even tho it is mainly a comedy show. Now going back to our little argument; why do SxF fans disregard writing? Pretending that if a show is not serious, details that don't make sense shouldn't matter? Fiction is relied heavily on world building (but most people don't even know about it), so that story and characters do not feel out of place. But if the characters do not stick to that world, then what's the point of building it? |
n-a-nc-e-y said: personally I would never suspect that an airhead like Yor could possibly be one of the strongest assassins around, so it doesn't feel off to meAs a spy, shouldn't he be aware of the people around him? From the animes perspective, he doesn't seem to have taken a deeper look into the past of both yor's and anya's. Why doesn't he seem to question yor's abilities because it's way beyond an average clerk's. Shouldn't a spy naturally be suspicious of something like this? I mean, yor almost beat up loid in the last episode. How can a spy let that slide? It seems from the anime that all he knows is yor's public image as a simple clerk but it doesn't seem like he took a deeper look. Sure, it's just an anime but still... |
Mashuu1 said: Instead of adding absolutely nothing to the conversation, why don't you learn how to accept criticism? Anymore attention you're craving?Potatoboy11 said: I must've already mentioned there that disregarding stuff with the excuses of "comedy" "not serious" "fiction"... is only proof to poor writing. And that is my problem, not with the show itself, but with its fandom. You should probably know of Gintama, which is the highest rated comedy anime of all time; it is not serious, and it has no realistic aspects, since, of course, it's fiction. But none of the characters, story, or world lacked any details. Gintama is still one of the most well written stories I've ever seen, even tho it is mainly a comedy show. Now going back to our little argument; why do SxF fans disregard writing? Pretending that if a show is not serious, details that don't make sense shouldn't matter? Fiction is relied heavily on world building (but most people don't even know about it), so that story and characters do not feel out of place. But if the characters do not stick to that world, then what's the point of building it? instead of writing a book why not just stop watching the show? what are you trying to accomplish here? |
| @Potatoboy11 I must've already mentioned there that disregarding stuff with the excuses of "comedy" "not serious" "fiction"... is only proof to poor writing. And that is my problem, not with the show itself, but with its fandom. Depends on what you're criticizing!Take the topic of this thread for instance: he doesn't seem to have taken a deeper look into the past of both yor's and anya's. Why doesn't he seem to question yor's abilities because it's way beyond an average clerk's. Shouldn't a spy naturally be suspicious of something like this? Is this valid criticism in your opinion? 1)There is NOT much info available about Anya in general (since she's an experiment of a secret organization and shit). And again, there's NO NEED for Loid to dig deeper in Anya's past. Loid thinks Anya is "temporary". Loid also thinks Anya's just a normal kid "who's very curious and sometimes makes him uncomfortable by leaving an impression she can see through him". It makes no sense for Loid to suspect that Espers are real. 2)The show made it clear that Loid has "sufficient" intel about Yor and there's nothing suspicious there. This means, there's nothing else to "dig" unless he wishes to COMMIT himself into spying on Yor specifically, which doesn't make sense given the circumstances. The fact that Yor does shocking stuff such as jumping down the slope or disabling a bull is shocking but doesn't give away Yor's identity of an assassin. Her shocking actions are meant to be unrealistic and FUNNY. Hopefully we won't be arguing how ridiculous it is to disable a bull with fingers and still be considered a human in real word. Loid would be suspecting that Yor is some kind of a superhuman, rather than an assassin. For now, Loid is content knowing Yor is a "weird woman" who happens to be an expert in self defense. Just like with Anya, Loid can be suspicious that Yor is not who she seems. And again, in real life Loid and any sane human would've suspected that Yor is too strong and agile for a normal human, but this is a FICTION AND A COMEDY and characters seem to consider such over-the-top actions as realistic, albeit shocking. In other words, Loid is shocked by Yor's actions, but what seems like "unrealistic" to some viewers, Loid sees as realistic but shocking, thus it makes sense why he isn't getting rid of Yor as any realistic "best" spy would, or why he doesn't spend more time and resources on finding out whether she's truly dangerous or is simply a "weird strong woman". If you consider this to be "poor/lazy writing" than this show is clearly not for you; plain and simple. Now going back to our little argument; why do SxF fans disregard writing? Pretending that if a show is not serious, details that don't make sense shouldn't matter? |
Sigmar-UnberogenMay 8, 2022 3:51 AM
Potatoboy11 said: you said that it annoyed you when loid didn't got suspicious of anya that she may have psychic powers, WHAT? This thing annoys you? Seriously? And then people will play victim and say "I got attacked even though I only stated my opinion" and this is their opinion lol. Also no one attacked you, they were all stating counter argument to your point in a peaceful manner. And their points actually makes sense against yours.TheFounder131 said: you can check the comment above you. Anyways, here if you want to check if it's valid criticism or not on your own: then you didn't said your criticism or your points correctly cause in this thread here you can see most of the people expressing their opinions without attacking anyone. |
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| @SH_HEL This is some lame writting in my opinion like the writer told us that he is the best spy & thinks about everything very carefully then when he is with family he is like a normal mc who has some great physical strength but 0 IQ Surely you can elaborate more on "0 IQ" and "lame writing". I'd want to hear what manner of mind-numbingly stupid things Loid did to deserve that. |
| @SH_HEL to simply put how can the best spy of a country doesn't realize the oddness around himself like how he doesn't even think about how she is so strong or how can a normal person know's such martial arts even if she told him that she know's self defence Why do you say "he doesn't even think about it"? He surely noticed that Yor "is not a normal person". So, what should he do? All the info Loid has access to depicts Yor and his brother as unsuspicious public servants. If Loid wants to "dig deep" into Yor's past, he will have to spy on her; which will be hard since she plays the role of a mother and doesn't go on assassination trips often. Now the question is "why should he???" Yor is not normal yes, but she's playing the role of a wife/mother and that's all Loid wants her to do at the moment. She's tough and fast so she has to be dangerous? There's no evidence to suggest Yor is an assassin or poses threat to Loid. She's odd, tough and fast, but Loid is accepting her because she isn't "unrealistic".At the moment Loid has no reason to investigate Yor. Realistically speaking, Loid or any sane person would wonder how Yor disabled a freaking bull using only fingers, but realistically speaking NO HUMAN is capable of doing what she did so obviously Yor has crossed the realm of reality and crossed into realm of fiction. Is this bad writing though??? This is a fiction-world where superhuman people like Yor can exist, hence we shouldn't judge the obviously unserious (for us) event - seriously, otherwise all of it becomes bullshit, and it WOULD have been bullshit if not for the "comedy" tag on the show. As is normal for COMEDY shows, realism is often sacrificed for "funny/badass/wholesome" moments, and since Loid isn't freaking out about "how can a human being do what she did?!!" we can safely assume that it's perfectly possible that humans like Yor exist in this fictitious world. In other words, you can disable a bull in 3 seconds and still be considered a human in this world - even though you will likely get shocked glances at you. In real world, Yor would be considered a monster or a superhuman and people would question if she's some mutant from X-men, rather than whether she's an assassin or not. The realistic best spy would question Yor, but as we established here, Yor is already a part of unrealistic world, so the viewer has to redefine what to expect from the "best spy" in this fictitious world. this is what a poor writting is atleast in my dictionary & this also specify that how a loid who is supposed to be very intelligent acts like a dumb person like most main stream anime mc does. I would agree on poor writing if the show took itself seriously, but it doesn't. It does unreal and goofy stuff for the sake of comedy. And, it does this without becoming over-the-top stupid. It's EXPECTED from a comedy show to be stupid and unrealistic to some degree, otherwise it won't be a comedy and it will turn into whatever this is:the dark politics, cold war types of themes of its story - In other words, a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SHOW!Also: acts like a dumb person like most main stream anime mc does When did that happen again? |
SH_HEL said: @Sigmar-Unberogen as i would have expected a die hard fan who doesn't understand a thing has came to defend something that he actually not good, the paragraph that you wrote no one's gonna read that shit only a person who is a blind fan will write something that long, i agree it is a goofy anime but at the same time it isn't a normal goffy anime won't include such heavy topics so your point in invalid and my point still stands Pfft... Well congratulations on proving you're nothing but a sad clown then. Feel sad about my wasted time... Immature people like you still have the audacity to say crap like this: lol this fandom is going to become the same as every other main stream anime fandom You clearly haven't matured to have a proper conversation. Before accusing someone of not knowing what they're talking about I would suggest you to sharpen the basic ability to read first. |
SH_HEL said: I like how you have no counterargument so you just default to discrediting the other guy without anything to back it up because you can't handle being wrong, very mature of you.@Sigmar-Unberogen as i would have expected a die hard fan who doesn't understand a thing has came to defend something that he actually not good, the paragraph that you wrote no one's gonna read that shit only a person who is a blind fan will write something that long, i agree it is a goofy anime but at the same time it isn't a normal goffy anime won't include such heavy topics so your point in invalid and my point still stands |
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Potatoboy11 said: I mean they are just defending it especially if it's their favorite show, it's completely normal. Why you acting like a victim😭Fuck, you did done do it, huh? Get ready for "it's a comedy" "it's fiction" "why are you taking it seriously". I briefly mentioned this issue before, then got attacked by people who decided to give up understanding writing for mindlessly getting offended when their favorite show gets some minor criticism. |
SH_HEL said: Ericonator said: i literally wrote ny argument earlier I don't have anything other that that to say so should i write that again in everytime, looks like my prediction is becoming reality and the dumb fans who can't even take criticism are already hearI like how you have no counterargument so you just default to discrediting the other guy without anything to back it up because you can't handle being wrong, very mature of you. How predictable. Blame fandom! -You say the story has poor writing. -I give my arguments explaining why I don't think the story has poor writing. -You, instead of continuing a rational discussion with valid points, discard my opinion entirely. Say you couldn't bother reading my arguments because your brain apparently can't handle more than 5-sentence-long text; accuse me of being a die-hard fan thus giving yourself yet another excuse to render my arguments invalid. And, after this you still expect to be taken seriously??? You need to grow up. You're embarrassing yourself. |
SH_HEL said: @Sigmar-Unberogen as i would have expected a die hard fan who doesn't understand a thing has came to defend something that he actually not good, the paragraph that you wrote no one's gonna read that shit only a person who is a blind fan will write something that long, i agree it is a goofy anime but at the same time it isn't a normal goffy anime won't include such heavy topics so your point in invalid and my point still stands I know, right? How dare he provide detailed counter-arguments? Truly a retarded fanbase. |
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