86--EIGHTY-SIX (light novel)
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| I guess people that thinks that this season is boring because no Lena should stop watching the show. 86 is not only about a white haired waifu that has thic thighs. It's about war, loss, people overcoming and trying to seek a future within this war. Today's episode was fantastic. In my opinion, the best episode so far... finally we can see what Frederica went through and a bit of her backstory also we got to see more of Shin's brotherly chemistry with her. Loved their interactions. As well as finally see that Lena is still being remembered by him and how much he might be worried about her (even though he doesn't show it externally). That being said, I really love Lena as a character all her character development was so well done in season 1 that having glances of how she is doing is a bless. I strongly believe there will be more scenes with her, even if we've got few scenes, I'm ok with it, because this cour is mainly focused on Shin and the rest of the 86 gang + frederica + giade federation in general, which I think is a fresh air and give us another perspective and more introspection of the current state of the world and our main guys struggles and lifes. |
Xshake said: animejas said: Pretty uneventful and boring episode as a whole, but not a pointless one either. I think if I cared for Frederica's character a bit, her backstory with Kiriya in her conversation with Shin might have kept me more emotionally engaged but since I'm not really a fan of her nor do I care much about that whole ordeal there, I felt kind of sleepy through that conversation. I don't mind the concept of a slow paced episode to breathe between the action, and it works for this kind of story. But because I wasn't that engaged in the actual cast and content for this episode as much, it came across flat for me personally. There's some subtle world building which I liked and the way the episode was structured with the calm before the storm was a way to indicate that shit would kick off with the next episode. Even got a little mini-segment of Lena post-credits with the ED song continuing into that one and shit isn't looking that amazing on her end. Overall, this season continues to be a kind of lacking and boring season in terms of its content, but the anime studio continues to do a solid job when it comes to adapting the material. The uneventfulness of this episode was felt even more when I was reading the books and was even more boring there, but here it at least had some moments I did like in the anime. Hopefully the next episode picks up my interest a bit as it gets closer to volume 3 content. Why a paragraph instead of saying straight it’s boring. Dude actual shit is going to take place soon just relax and enjoy. Eh I wouldn’t bother with these. They read the source material and should obviously know what to expect, so the next episodes may not impress them either, anyways lol. Which sucks because I read the volume myself and I found the anime’s take a lot more interesting, on the other hand, especially with the visual motifs with the crow and the moth in the spiders web. |
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| The part where Shin actually yeeted Frederica towards Anju was pretty funny, in an episode that didn't have a whole lot going for it, other than quite some information, but also important information I feel. I do miss our Major, but that small glimpse of her at the end of the ED gives me hope that we'll see more of her next week. |
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| The loli queen even drinks coffee, but she still fell asleep right away. A dialogue heavy episode, but the directing was nice. It didn't feel boring to me. I've been enjoying the focus on the Shin/Spearheads in the Federacy, but guess we'll finally see Lena on the next episode. |
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| This cour has been absolutely solid so far. Imo it's more compelling than the first cour, in which I found myself getting bored and checking the time often. That's not the case here, I've become fully invested in this story. |
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| This show would be better if Frederica was just not in it at all. She adds basically nothing. I would like the art style to have a little more flair too since it feels too bland for how great everything else is. |
| This episodes gives me that feeling of a lull before a storm, next episode is gonna be full of shit |
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| Weakest episode so far in the entire series. I wasn't expecting a dull ep like this after such a solid start this season. Nothing significant happened. Considering the fantastic direction of the first cour, I'm surprised they just shoved in there such a long and confusing infodump with no visuals to help viewers process the events more easily. Also, no Lena again is pretty unsatisfying. |
tensai95 said: FlamepriesT said: Weakest episode so far in the entire series. I wasn't expecting a dull ep like this after such a solid start this season. Nothing significant happened. Considering the fantastic direction of the first cour, I'm surprised they just shoved in there such a long and confusing infodump with no visuals to help viewers process the events more easily. Also, no Lena again is pretty unsatisfying. No visual aids? I get that it's just a talking episode but the visuals were on par with a regular 86 episode. Not sure why you're confused. I never said the episode looked bad. I said that instead of a long ass infodump with Shin making coffee, they should have at least shown some of those events along with Frederica's narration. That would have made things a lot easier to visualize. Considering how much this show has implied with just visuals on multiple occasions, I find it surprising they included a grand total of 0 images to illustrate her story. |
| This show still doesn't do much for me, other than appreciating the animation and directing quality. Story wise, it's still slap bang average for me Federica continues to be one of the most ridiculous and out of place characters in the history of anime. |
| The 86ers here are holding a very important task, on this upcoming war. After all, Legions are made to fight humans, so it's Giad's task to know more about them and the juggernauts. Frederica's conversation with Shin about Eugene was insightful. After it, she slept in Shin's arms. A little sister xD I'm just waiting for Lena the Military Waifu to show up again. |
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| I have to agree with the users above on one thing, I still don't understand the role of Frederica in the story, what's the point of having her? That's one thing that's been bothering me. Her presence might not feel forced, but her appearance in the show and involvement are sudden, almost unnatural. Other than that, the story is getting more interesting. I highly doubt that Shinei is not thinking about the future. I wonder how big this war with the Legion will be and who they're going to send to the front lines, but I hope it won't just be the 86. I kind of feel they'll be fighting the Legion on the verge of losing, and the Republic will give them a hand. Direction and animation are, as always, impressive. |
| I sometimes forget to finish my sentences. |
| not the biggest fan of 86 but the 2nd cour has improved on a lot of my issues but dear lord i was not expecting Frederica it's easily been the worse part lol wouldn't have been bad if she was a one off character |
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| Not gonna lie, this was a really boring episode. Though I guess it has to do with how uneventful it was. As for its content, the part with Shinei and co. lowkey "shitting" on Grethe's efforts to provide them good vehicles wasn't fun at all and though Frederica's backstory was interesting to some extent, it keeps bothering me how jarring the change from bratty loli to mature ojou-sama is. |
| Another chapter that does not disappoint, I am surprised that the republic that is well equipped has many casualties, I am sure it is because the soldiers have not passed the standard procedures like the Eighty-Six, Federica's determination is well shown and it still seems to me missing part of the story of how the war started |
| Fantastic episode! It was more of a calm, build up and telling us all that we need to know kind of episode. I loved that presentation of the Reginleif- I mean Juggernauts (sorry Shin), those are specifications right from the LN. Shin senses the Legion coming and it's a whole lot of them. Can't really blame the Federacy for not believing him, they think he does not have any basis. But it would be dangerous for them, especially for Shin if they told him about his ability. They can't really fully trust them yet. On the far west of the Federacy is the Republic where Lena is, also deducing that a whole lot of Legion is coming based on that map of hers. Shit's gonna go down in the coming episodes. Can't' wait. Frederica got yeeted lmao. |
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| Well they're back together for a reunion at least and Frederica is still as light-headed as usual talk about a lady A lot of talking in this episode seems they're planning for a huge war in their hands, Glad they've focused on Frederica more to get at least an idea from her past Shin is looking out for her well good for him he doesn't bore himself out from reading books all the time, It might be for the best to hide Shin's powers, or if he wants to be experimented be my guest. |
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| A lot of conversations, so many details, we're on the cusp of something important... I am so looking forward to that... |
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| Federation logic: "I am against sending children to the front", unless it's 10 years old loli with teddy bear. Ok she not fight directly, but the base may also be attacked. And these human teddy bears for eighty six soldiers? Wtf? 86 are "poor disadvantaged children" After all, there are other young soldiers in the army like the eyeglass and probably hundreds of others - they don't understand that they are not children anymore or They don't feel sorry for their young soldiers? since the federation's military academy accepted young people like an eyeglass, etc now they should not complain that "children should not fight" - these "children" met the academy's requirements and have training how does sending "mascots" into the army fit with all this goodness and concern? Seriously, the series threw us "loli on the battlefield boost motivation!" This is so idiotic that it's ridiculous. The very role of Frederica in this series is a joke. They take care of her as if she were in kindergarten and then her character changes 180 degrees again. I really don't like the direction in which this series is going |
| oh my god who asked for a loli talking shit for 5 minutes that nobody cares about, could haave told the same story in 1 minute and i would have been happier knowing the context and not having to listen to that shit, honestly frederica is building up to be one of the most annoying character that i have seen, it feels so out of tone with the story anyways, the episode was zzz, bunch of nonsense world-building, reinforced the almost dead concept of "wat will shin do X.x". Setting for a new hitting event, probably involving the blonde girl and hopefully creating something interesting in the relationships of trust in the federacy, agitating everything a bit. If they don't I would be disappointed |
| This episode was a lot slower compared to previous episodes but, the slow pace allowed for a lot of information. Kiriya's segment was quite nice; his descent into madness was ominous. A nice buildup episode for what's next to come. |
JamalaNekaOct 24, 2021 9:12 AM
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| Frederica's voice is the only thing calming me down in this show now. After the last episode events everything seems to be haunting. |
When someone asks me why I like anime, I'd say Just Because. |
| I've got a feeling, a feeling I can't hide, oh yeah...oh yeah. There's gonna be a BIG BIG fight soon, and...down there at the end...please...don't make me think...that THAT will happen. A build up episode that's for sure, and it's mostly just calm with some infodumps and planning for that big fight. Seems that they still can't believe what Shin's estimates are saying, yes he know the Legion too well, and that's what sets off the military. Also Raiden reminding him about that future and those powers, what a nice talk between them two. And lastly...LENA HAS BEEN SEEN AGAIN, even if its only for a few seconds, I still appreciate it. Next episode should be...pretty mental. I hope someone don't die...please don't die whoever I'm thinking about right now. If you do, I'll be sad. |
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Jollyne7 said: Federation logic: "I am against sending children to the front", unless it's 10 years old loli with teddy bear. Ok she not fight directly, but the base may also be attacked. And these human teddy bears for eighty six soldiers? Wtf? 86 are "poor disadvantaged children" After all, there are other young soldiers in the army like the eyeglass and probably hundreds of others - they don't understand that they are not children anymore or They don't feel sorry for their young soldiers? since the federation's military academy accepted young people like an eyeglass, etc now they should not complain that "children should not fight" - these "children" met the academy's requirements and have training how does sending "mascots" into the army fit with all this goodness and concern? Seriously, the series threw us "loli on the battlefield boost motivation!" This is so idiotic that it's ridiculous. The very role of Frederica in this series is a joke. They take care of her as if she were in kindergarten and then her character changes 180 degrees again. I really don't like the direction in which this series is going Mascots are an actual thing even in our history, albeit children weren't used. The idea in 86 is that they're giving this as an option for those who were orphaned from the war, presumably suggesting the Federacy was previously severely lacking in resources to send them somewhere else like to a school, a boarding house. It benefits them when it's less people to take care of, while boosting the morale of their soldiers. It's ridiculous because it is. The story never portrays this as a good thing anyway. You're not supposed to like it because what comes out of war is ugly and despicable, and that's why 1) "mascots" are already a dying tradition in the Federacy and 2) as what Raiden mentioned, the Federacy aren't the saints they think they are. As to whether you have a good understanding of her character (not her "mascot" situation)... that's your problem to sort out. |
w3b0shiOct 24, 2021 3:05 PM
| Nope. |
Yuri_Cobaia said: Honestly now that i'm thinking about it, the whole ep felt like a filler, maybe that's why they put a amateur to direct it? I dont know, i just hope they get back on track because this is the worst episode from the two parts yet. I don't think you know what a "filler" episode is. |
| Nope. |
| Is it just me or did the art style change just a hair? Shinei looking extra... tasteful here. Also, feels like the VA has tried something different -- warmer?-- that I can't put my hand on. Looks like the end(...beginning?) is coming soon. Pacing is going well -- matching the pace of the novel, but my gods going to fight someone if I don't see this reunification soon. Seems like it'll be epic. 5/5 - although maybe it's my own anticipation that's clouding my judgement. P.S. Stupid question, but is it inferred that Shinei sees Fredrica like Lena? Naive, but worth protecting? ...I feel like that was the assumption, but truthfully thought if Fredrica reminds us of anyone then it's Teppy the cat. Thoughts? |
| what a boring episode...good thing i watched this when i'm not sleep deprived... 3/5. |
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| Just the first 4 episodes are so much better than the first season. I hope this trend continues and the anime doesn't fall short at the end again. |
Yuri_Cobaia said: Did they changed the director for this episode? The whole episode felt different from the other ones; lack of edition skills, the credits rolled up so abrupt lol forced humour scenes with that princess strange pacing Honestly now that i'm thinking about it, the whole ep felt like a filler, maybe that's why they put a amateur to direct it? I dont know, i just hope they get back on track because this is the worst episode from the two parts yet. What is the point of this post? Did it add anything, or was it just filler? |
| Quantum ille canis est in fenestra |
| Interesting to see how Shin and Frederica's backstories connect. |
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| Damn what a talkative episode but some good information that was going on. I really want to see Lena soon. |
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