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Jun 29, 2021 11:33 AM
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Note: This is not another thread where we talk about the ratings.

I know that some of the 1-star ratings are from people who don't like to see The final season on the top anime, but some of them must be genuine. As someone who thinks that this season is everything we deserved and more and a perfect ending to the anime, I can't help but wonder what made you hate the final season. I know Akito is a controversial topic and I think that is ok for everyone to decide to forgive her or not.


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Jun 29, 2021 11:47 AM
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I didn't give this a 1-star but I did hate the final season. A lot of it comes down to Akito not being held accountable or even bothering to apologize for her actions either. She hospitalized more than one member of the zodiac and caused severe mental trauma for the others over the years. The series just lets her skate by and have a happy ending she hasn't properly built up to and that she doesn't deserve. I also don't like that the mother character seemingly only existed to justify why Akito was so terrible to people.

I also find many of the ships to be underdeveloped so I wasn't able to enjoy most of them compared to rest of the fandom.
Jun 29, 2021 11:56 AM
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Rejuvenation said:
I didn't give this a 1-star but I did hate the final season. A lot of it comes down to Akito not being held accountable or even bothering to apologize for her actions either.


definitely makes sense. personally I felt she wasn't meant to be redeemed, and I think the part with Rin shows that not everyone has forgiven her, even if they can't really "defeat her" or something like you could in an action show
Jun 29, 2021 11:56 AM
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Rejuvenation said:
I didn't give this a 1-star but I did hate the final season. A lot of it comes down to Akito not being held accountable or even bothering to apologize for her actions either. She hospitalized more than one member of the zodiac and caused severe mental trauma for the others over the years. The series just lets her skate by and have a happy ending she hasn't properly built up to and that she doesn't deserve. I also don't like that the mother character seemingly only existed to justify why Akito was so terrible to people.

I also find many of the ships to be underdeveloped so I wasn't able to enjoy most of them compared to rest of the fandom.


I feel like if Akito had apologized it would have been cheap. Her journey towards redemption is going to last years and some, like Isuzu, will never forgive her.

As for the ships, I have to agree that some of them needed more screen time, but I have to disagree with some people who say that YukixMachi was underdeveloped. There were little things since season 2 that built up to them ending up together in season 3.

Thank you for the answer.
Jun 29, 2021 12:09 PM
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eli_shmeli said:
Rejuvenation said:
I didn't give this a 1-star but I did hate the final season. A lot of it comes down to Akito not being held accountable or even bothering to apologize for her actions either.


definitely makes sense. personally I felt she wasn't meant to be redeemed, and I think the part with Rin shows that not everyone has forgiven her, even if they can't really "defeat her" or something like you could in an action show


I didn't really need Akito to be defeated. I just didn't want her to be a total karma houdini and have absolutely no repercussions for everything she did. She threw Rin out of the 2nd or 3rd floor of a building, put Kisa in the ICU, slashed out one of Hattori's eyes, and confined both Rin and Yuki at different points causing them mental trauma, stabbed Kureno to the point he needs a cane to walk, and needlessly pitted Kyou against Yuki feeding a stupid feud that never needed to happen.

I can't just shrug that off when I take all of this into account and the series seemingly wanting me to forgive it just because she was an isolated girl who didn't know how to handle being "special".

avengingangel2 said:
Rejuvenation said:
I didn't give this a 1-star but I did hate the final season. A lot of it comes down to Akito not being held accountable or even bothering to apologize for her actions either. She hospitalized more than one member of the zodiac and caused severe mental trauma for the others over the years. The series just lets her skate by and have a happy ending she hasn't properly built up to and that she doesn't deserve. I also don't like that the mother character seemingly only existed to justify why Akito was so terrible to people.

I also find many of the ships to be underdeveloped so I wasn't able to enjoy most of them compared to rest of the fandom.


I feel like if Akito had apologized it would have been cheap. Her journey towards redemption is going to last years and some, like Isuzu, will never forgive her.

As for the ships, I have to agree that some of them needed more screen time, but I have to disagree with some people who say that YukixMachi was underdeveloped. There were little things since season 2 that built up to them ending up together in season 3.

Thank you for the answer.


I find it far worse and cheaper that she didn't acknowledge her reign of terror over these people via an apology. I agree her redemption is something that should take years and Isuzu is right to never forgive her.

I was primarily thinking of Uotani and Kureno as far as underdeveloped ships are concerned. As far as YukixMachi, my main gripe is that I wish that Machi had been there from the start rather than halfway through season 3.

No problem and I think the people mindlessly down rating the series without watching it are making themselves and their fandom look bad.
Jun 29, 2021 12:40 PM
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I'd like to know too. The comments about Akito and his mother are well taken (well, by me, anyways), and as much as I hated the characters (and wanted to reach into my screen and strangle some sense into the mother), it wasn't enough for me to dislike the series. I was too busy following Tohru×Kyo. Honestly, I would have probably also missed Yuki×Machi if I weren't already aware of it.

About the elephant in the room (yes ratings, sorry), I felt it deserved my 10. I find it difficult to rate a series a 10 (or even a 9) compared to movies, as there's a lot more content to potentially dislike in a series. I'd also like to know what else people didn't like about the series. I was surprised when FB knocked my favourite high scorer (H×H) out of the top 5 last week, I didn't think it was that popular. I haven't seen FMAB so can't comment.
Jun 29, 2021 12:46 PM
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I watched the whole show and gave the final season a 6. It’s the best season of the show, but the show is not my cup of tea. I don’t ask the people who gave it a 10 to justify their love for the show so I don’t expect to have to justify my score.

Please stop making threads Furuba’s score. I was quite indifferent to it but with all these threads I’m actually starting to hate it.
Jun 29, 2021 12:54 PM
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zepenedo said:
I watched the whole show and gave the final season a 6. It’s the best season of the show, but the show is not my cup of tea. I don’t ask the people who gave it a 10 to justify their love for the show so I don’t expect to have to justify my score.

Please stop making threads Furuba’s score. I was quite indifferent to it but with all these threads I’m actually starting to hate it.


Again, this is not a thread about the score.

I know why people love it. I have been reading the episode discussion threads every Monday night. I have also read other threads about what we love this season and even the one user made that contains all the info for the people attracted to the final season because of the rating.

I am mentioning the 1* because in my book that rating means hate. It's a rating I rarely give to an anime, series, movie, or book. According to my GR profile, I have given 132 1 star ratings out of my 4248. In the end, no one is forcing you to justify anything, I am genuinely curious.
Jun 29, 2021 2:14 PM
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i don’t think people are really complaining that it lost its number one spot like even though I rated it a 10/10 I did not think it was going to be number one. I think people are just annoyed at how petty the fma fans are as there were literally posts about how all the fma fans should rate it 1/10 just so it doesn’t overtake the show.

It just leaves a bad impression on both sides as for fruits basket realistically not many of the bot/troll 1/10 scores will actually be removed showing a disproportionate amount of people who “hated” the final season when many of them are just being petty. It is also bad for fma as it leaves a bad impression on a show that is truly great (I also gave it 10/10) due to the pettiness of the fans while lowering the score of the shows as it the fandoms get into downvoting wars for some ultimately arbitrary and meaningless ranking.
Show proof that they're FMA fans, or are we just deflecting it onto them by bullying the top spot? I don't think something as little as 1k 1 ratings is a FMA issue.
Also, each and every thread being made now are just either trolling or toxic. None are taking it seriously apart from, you guessed it, angry Furuba fans. FMA fans are so awfully quiet and when they speak it's pretty chill, it's like they're not the ones doing the downvoting.
"i don’t think people are really complaining that it lost its number one spot" tell that to most people who are blaming it on FMA, the number one spot.

Bot and troll votes do very much get removed, but it takes time, it's not automatic. Plus, only 40k votes have been made, so the average will change quite drastically. Barely anybody's vote bombing it, just that there are so little votes that the average can change with so little votes.
FMA:B's score without the bot system and weighting implemented is 9.06. And that's counting the millions of votes, so yeah, the bots are insane over there. FMA has been getting the same treatment since forever but nobody talks about it because it's in the top spot.

And if we're being realistic here, most are bot accounts, and by that, I mean that what 200 votes as a 1 could be, could just only be a singular person. There isn't 1k+ "mad FMA:B fans", as one they're probably not, and two, most people who make bot counts make a lot.
By no means am I saying that all the 1/10 scores are fma fans or that the fma fans are completely in the wrong. The furaba fans are probably just caught up in the hype and emotions from the series recently ending and on a high note and so they will be passionate (and maybe toxic) about the scores and the scores will be inflated. U are also right about how the little votes means that score can change drastically but from what I have seen, there is a high proportion of 1/10 scores in comparison to other low scores like 2 or 3/10. That may be a coincidence but from posts where people are encouraging vote bombing on the series it doesn’t so, so there are obviously a small group of people (not just fma fans) who are votebombing the series for whatever reason rather than for just not liking it (which is fine). Also I know that fmab has been subject to lots of votebombing from other series like aot and furaba etc. but the fact that it is still effectively the number one anime is a testament to how good the show is that even after votebombing so many people (including me) have rated it so highly and it establishes a high status. Therefor I just find it unnecessary for these small group of people to downvote these shows whose scores are obviously inflated by hype. I would prefer if there was no votebombing whatsoever but obviously that’s impossible as people will always be passionate about the series they like which is completely fine. Idk im just writing kind of on impulse cuz j was annoyed by a post in fma forum that they should votebomb furaba so im sorry if some of my facts were wrong I was just writing on what I have seen lol

also in regard to why people might have hated it, some of the plot lines were rushed like how we never really saw what happened to Momiji and if he got To be with his sister etc and Akitos story kind of ended abruptly without her properly apologizing or atoning. Those are all valid reasons to be unsatisfied with this season tho I just like how dramatic and emotional it was and tied up the most important aspects of the story. It would have been great if thy had more time to tie off loose ends but oh well still love the show

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Gave final season a instead of 10 like the rest because it was way too fast paced, I gave it high because it’s my favorite shoujo but it was really an 8 because of the end imo
Jun 29, 2021 3:58 PM
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To actually answer the questions and not talk about the rating, there is many things that made me put this season as the worst of the 3.

-as said previously, akito goes of free is absurd, i hated that.
-i hated tohru this season. She gets insulted, assaulted and more and she still mindlessly runs towards any person to give a hug. Yes i understand it's the character but can they make it a slightly bit realistic. Can she doubt for at least half a second before throwing herself to someone with a knife that just stabbed her?
- the drama this season is beyond ridiculous. Can someone explain what's the point of tohru magically falling of the cliff? The conversation with akito already ended what's the point? All of that so Kyo can kiss her while she's unconscious (hello creep alert). And Kyo that changes his mind every day.
-and the worst part, the story of the mother. I like a lot stories from the past that links characters, but only when they are well made. So Kyo is just standing there the day he escapes and ofc the mother of tohru appears. The mother is just an element to push the story of every other character in the most random way possible. It's so annoying. And her death is ridiculous, kyo had 1000 ways to save her but whatever.

Now all of this sounds terribly negative, but it was the point of the question. I'm disappointed in this season honestly, i really like the first two.
Jun 29, 2021 4:37 PM
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I didn't really hate the season, but I liked it FAR less than the first 2 seasons. I felt this season was really rushed when it came to developing the characters (something I felt the first two seasons did a spectacular job at) and explaining the bonds between the zodiac members breaking. Everything just kinda happened without much of an explanation, and I feel 13 episodes was no where near enough time to make a quality finale.
Jun 29, 2021 4:52 PM
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I have yet to watch the final episode, but i didn't like this season in particular. I enjoyed the second season a lot since that was the point where it started to diverge from the usual shoujo plotline that we saw in season 1. This season felt generic to me, although people tend to argue otherwise. The characters always spoke in a poetic manner all the time (I don't dislike this kinda direction at all, but imho it's far better when characters "think" such things, like in 3-gatsu no lion, since saying such thing out loud and expecting others to behave normally is well, kinda stupid).
Secondly, I was baffled at that scene where tohri fell from a cliff and was lying in a near dead state. Then kyou comes down and fucking kisses her. Like are you serious dude? There's a time and place for everything and you chose that moment for it. That particular scene ended all the seriousness for me, I was legit laughing when that happened, like I know it's a shoujo anime but really? And not to mention how comically evil the parents are portrayed in this season, as if they were written by a 9 year old. But all in all, I still enjoyed many aspects of it. The above mentioned stuff are my criticisms ig.
It's A solid 8/10 for me. Could have been a 9 or even a 10 if it wasn't for those odd moments.
Jun 29, 2021 5:59 PM
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Kyo and tohru took how many seasons to get together but Yuki and what’s her name again? Took an episode to kiss lmao
Jun 29, 2021 6:03 PM

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I don't hate the show but I hate that it is overrated. There are 2 biases at work here:

1 - Recency bias: Because this show is the latest trend, it will get more attention from beginner anime watchers and they will think it is the best thing they ever watched (guess why, because they did not watch too many things).

2 - Sampling bias: Multiple season shows are subject to this bias. People who don't like S1 will not watch S2 and S3. The probability that S2 and S3 will get lower scores will drop. That is why most anime at the top are sequels.


Also, personally I think the S2 was better (especially the second part). S3 was just a conclusion. Conclusions are almost never the best part of a story and this one is not an exception.
Jun 29, 2021 8:55 PM
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avengingangel2 said:
Note: This is not another thread where we talk about the ratings.

I know that some of the 1-star ratings are from people who don't like to see The final season on the top anime, but some of them must be genuine. As someone who thinks that this season is everything we deserved and more and a perfect ending to the anime, I can't help but wonder what made you hate the final season. I know Akito is a controversial topic and I think that is ok for everyone to decide to forgive her or not.


Because it as mediocre adaptation that butchered the source material. Fans were promised an accurate complete adaptation and this is not it. It cut entire story arcs, characters and whole chapters. It cut multiple chapters in half and shuffled them around, not even adapting all the halves. It cut crucial scenes and character moments from chapters. It butchered the main characters own backstory. The two episodes that adapted 4 chapters, of approximately 40 pages each into a single episode were crimes against the series.


The pacing wad botched. And what's more, if they adapted it at the rate they previously were it would have been at least 20 episodes. Considering sensei wanted to add some adititional things and several episodesin season 1 did that while adapting only one chapter it could of easily been in the normal episode range.

Hell if they adapted more in season 1 cause they wanted to stick to 63 episodes we would of been more ok as well.

Fans were betrayed by the studio. And then there's theres a series of toxic anime only fans who refuse to acknowledge the faults and shame anyone whose mad about the dishonesty.

I look forward to hearing Takaya Sensei's honest thoughts once her contracts gag order expires. Considering she how she defended the anime rights for so long before allowing another chance I'm sure she'll have some thoughts. Especially since the credits show her role was reduced each season and she didn't have as much control after season 1.


Anyway I've struggled with what I want to rate it. I gave it a 1 for awhile and then adjusted several times. I don't know what I'll rate long term, because even after the butchering of the story there was a handle full of perfect moments. I'm also curious if they'll continue to adapt what they skipped after the kyoko and Katsuya content. I'm hoping for a directors cut to restore the final season or at least more OVA's to adapt the entirely skipped chapters and arcs.
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avengingangel2 said:
Rejuvenation said:
I didn't give this a 1-star but I did hate the final season. A lot of it comes down to Akito not being held accountable or even bothering to apologize for her actions either. She hospitalized more than one member of the zodiac and caused severe mental trauma for the others over the years. The series just lets her skate by and have a happy ending she hasn't properly built up to and that she doesn't deserve. I also don't like that the mother character seemingly only existed to justify why Akito was so terrible to people.

I also find many of the ships to be underdeveloped so I wasn't able to enjoy most of them compared to rest of the fandom.


I feel like if Akito had apologized it would have been cheap. Her journey towards redemption is going to last years and some, like Isuzu, will never forgive her.

As for the ships, I have to agree that some of them needed more screen time, but I have to disagree with some people who say that YukixMachi was underdeveloped. There were little things since season 2 that built up to them ending up together in season 3.

Thank you for the answer.


There's also more content for them in the manga that wasn't adapted for some reason. Some Manga fans also use to complain about there not being enough content for them, so I can definitly see why anime only fans feel that way since there was even less here
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Jun 29, 2021 10:22 PM
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Way to much romantics in the last few episodes. I fellt like I was being waterboarded with lovey-dove when all most people cared about was Kyo and Tohru. Also Akito deserved some sort of divine punishment.
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I love the ending because it is still the same ending in the manga. The story was straightforward so I'm not complaining since it is an anime adaptation. Great to see that Katsuya and Kyoko's story is going to be animated. One of my favorite story arcs in the manga.



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Jun 29, 2021 11:12 PM
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As someone who literally gave the first season of Fruits Basket a 4, I can pretty much tell you here that FMA fans are likely playing a part in the 1 ratings. On mobile it lets you see specifically how much gave which star, and there are more 1 stars than there are 7s. Assuming that they thought this show was mid or decent, they'd give it a 7, because that's usually how scores play out. Now think about it rationally, sure people can dislike an anime, but are you really telling me that this many people are extremists on scores? MAL really needs to implement some system to prevent the fans of top anime from bombing a series with 1 stars.

For reference, there are 2,649 1 stars compared to the 2,535 7 stars.
Jun 29, 2021 11:13 PM
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The only thing that hates this anime is the FMAB fandom who doesn't accept that the anime is not in position one anymore. FMAB fandom is trash fandomdom
Jun 29, 2021 11:39 PM
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Yesterday thi is still 9.18 but how can in one day can down to 9.09 with 1000+ new vote 1 rate in this anime. I dont know how can?
Many people say thats because FMAB fandom but i think i cant agree with that after saw the Clarification of MalStaff on 6june ago about fake vote and the Anime FMAB is not at the list.

But how can this anime so good can down in one day only with 1000+ new 1vote rate?

Please tell me, why?
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No actually I quite like it if you can tell by my rating I actually hate the first and first half of second season , and I also hate the main character she gets no character development and she is just weird all time and I don't like the fact that kyo said that he couldn't save her mom but she still was like: k whatever , let's get married and how can someone survive from that fall like seriously..
There are better romance anime than this
And especially slice of life animes
The slice of life part of this anime is super boring...
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CurryJuice21 said:
Bunille said:
Show proof that they're FMA fans, or are we just deflecting it onto them by bullying the top spot? I don't think something as little as 1k 1 ratings is a FMA issue.
Also, each and every thread being made now are just either trolling or toxic. None are taking it seriously apart from, you guessed it, angry Furuba fans. FMA fans are so awfully quiet and when they speak it's pretty chill, it's like they're not the ones doing the downvoting.
"i don’t think people are really complaining that it lost its number one spot" tell that to most people who are blaming it on FMA, the number one spot.

Bot and troll votes do very much get removed, but it takes time, it's not automatic. Plus, only 40k votes have been made, so the average will change quite drastically. Barely anybody's vote bombing it, just that there are so little votes that the average can change with so little votes.
FMA:B's score without the bot system and weighting implemented is 9.06. And that's counting the millions of votes, so yeah, the bots are insane over there. FMA has been getting the same treatment since forever but nobody talks about it because it's in the top spot.

And if we're being realistic here, most are bot accounts, and by that, I mean that what 200 votes as a 1 could be, could just only be a singular person. There isn't 1k+ "mad FMA:B fans", as one they're probably not, and two, most people who make bot counts make a lot.
By no means am I saying that all the 1/10 scores are fma fans or that the fma fans are completely in the wrong. The furaba fans are probably just caught up in the hype and emotions from the series recently ending and on a high note and so they will be passionate (and maybe toxic) about the scores and the scores will be inflated. U are also right about how the little votes means that score can change drastically but from what I have seen, there is a high proportion of 1/10 scores in comparison to other low scores like 2 or 3/10. That may be a coincidence but from posts where people are encouraging vote bombing on the series it doesn’t so, so there are obviously a small group of people (not just fma fans) who are votebombing the series for whatever reason rather than for just not liking it (which is fine). Also I know that fmab has been subject to lots of votebombing from other series like aot and furaba etc. but the fact that it is still effectively the number one anime is a testament to how good the show is that even after votebombing so many people (including me) have rated it so highly and it establishes a high status. Therefor I just find it unnecessary for these small group of people to downvote these shows whose scores are obviously inflated by hype. I would prefer if there was no votebombing whatsoever but obviously that’s impossible as people will always be passionate about the series they like which is completely fine. Idk im just writing kind of on impulse cuz j was annoyed by a post in fma forum that they should votebomb furaba so im sorry if some of my facts were wrong I was just writing on what I have seen lol

also in regard to why people might have hated it, some of the plot lines were rushed like how we never really saw what happened to Momiji and if he got To be with his sister etc and Akitos story kind of ended abruptly without her properly apologizing or atoning. Those are all valid reasons to be unsatisfied with this season tho I just like how dramatic and emotional it was and tied up the most important aspects of the story. It would have been great if thy had more time to tie off loose ends but oh well still love the show

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umm did you really said hype ia why frubu is at this rating i mean seriously
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I personally loved this season.

However I can see why many hated it, namely Akito and her lack of accountability.

While I do entirely agree her getting off scott free is very grating, I feel the other characters reactions are reasonable.

I don't believe any of the characters have truly forgiven her entirely, but this entire show was about moving forward. They all wanted to shake their bonds and part of that was not letting their resentment shackle them. They have agreed to move on, but some easier than others.

That said I do wish she had more of an arc of working for forgiveness, the idea of her already finding happiness without even doing anything other than 'breaking the chains' that were about to break anyway is rather grating. Especially when her relationship with Shigure is probably the least developed in the series and feels the most forced.

Overall I still feel the finale was amazing and like them we can't let our bitterness for Akito ruin the rest of what was a fantastic series.




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Anurag29 said:
CurryJuice21 said:
By no means am I saying that all the 1/10 scores are fma fans or that the fma fans are completely in the wrong. The furaba fans are probably just caught up in the hype and emotions from the series recently ending and on a high note and so they will be passionate (and maybe toxic) about the scores and the scores will be inflated. U are also right about how the little votes means that score can change drastically but from what I have seen, there is a high proportion of 1/10 scores in comparison to other low scores like 2 or 3/10. That may be a coincidence but from posts where people are encouraging vote bombing on the series it doesn’t so, so there are obviously a small group of people (not just fma fans) who are votebombing the series for whatever reason rather than for just not liking it (which is fine). Also I know that fmab has been subject to lots of votebombing from other series like aot and furaba etc. but the fact that it is still effectively the number one anime is a testament to how good the show is that even after votebombing so many people (including me) have rated it so highly and it establishes a high status. Therefor I just find it unnecessary for these small group of people to downvote these shows whose scores are obviously inflated by hype. I would prefer if there was no votebombing whatsoever but obviously that’s impossible as people will always be passionate about the series they like which is completely fine. Idk im just writing kind of on impulse cuz j was annoyed by a post in fma forum that they should votebomb furaba so im sorry if some of my facts were wrong I was just writing on what I have seen lol

also in regard to why people might have hated it, some of the plot lines were rushed like how we never really saw what happened to Momiji and if he got To be with his sister etc and Akitos story kind of ended abruptly without her properly apologizing or atoning. Those are all valid reasons to be unsatisfied with this season tho I just like how dramatic and emotional it was and tied up the most important aspects of the story. It would have been great if thy had more time to tie off loose ends but oh well still love the show

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umm did you really said hype ia why frubu is at this rating i mean seriously
bruh I said during my posts that I rated it a 10/10 I’m not saying it doesn’t deserve the high rating I’m just saying the score might be inflated by a lot due to hype and emotions which is why it maybe got all the way to one but I think it deserves a top 5-10 rating as it is easily one of if not the best shoujo romance anime out there.
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I personally wasn't a fan of a few things in this season. Even tho there were some good moments, like the haru rin episode and whenever the focus was kyo and tohru. However, i cannot get over how akito is not held accountable for her actions, sure she had a messed up childhood but that doesn't excuse everything she's done throughout the series. Also i found tohru to become more uninteresting as time went on, she is basically your typical anime nice girl cliche and that gets boring fast. It wouldve been cool to see some time where she got upset, perhaps put her foot down, SOMETHING. i am also not a big fan of shigure or kureno. shigure is just sleazy and i do not condone of his relationship with akito bc it feels manipulative and wrong. he gave a flower to a child when she was a child, something about that don't sit well with me. kureno is portrayed as this self sacrificial dude but i don't like the idea of his relationship with uo, she's 17 and he's like at least mid to late 20s.

i'm happy for those who found enjoyment in this season but i only really enjoy this show when kyo and most of the other highschoolers are the focus.
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1. As someone who read this story a long time ago in the past, I was surprised how overdramatised it was.

2. Apparently, stories about angsty teenagers are no longer interesting to me.




"The moment one sits down to think, one becomes all nose, or all forehead, or something horrid. Look at the successful men in any of the learned professions. How perfectly hideous they are! Except, of course, in the Church. But then in the Church they don't think. A bishop keeps on saying at the age of eighty what he was told to say when he was a boy of eighteen, and as a natural consequence he always looks absolutely delightful."
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I didn't hate it, but to be completely honest, for me it was the weakest season. I'm not really sure why, maybe because it had just 13 episodes and not 25 like the previous ones...
Maybe it was because some of the characters and relationships weren't developed enough...
Maybe it was because some things felt rushed or oversimplified (tbh, Momiji's sudden "grow spurt" was one of the weirdest things I've ever seen)...
Maybe it was because I had expected it to end differently...

Or maybe it was because my tastes had changed over the past 2 years. Who knows. Still, for me it was pretty good, just the worst out of the 3 seasons.
Jun 30, 2021 8:13 AM
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I don't hate the show but I hate that it is overrated. There are 2 biases at work here:

1 - Recency bias: Because this show is the latest trend, it will get more attention from beginner anime watchers and they will think it is the best thing they ever watched (guess why, because they did not watch too many things).

2 - Sampling bias: Multiple season shows are subject to this bias. People who don't like S1 will not watch S2 and S3. The probability that S2 and S3 will get lower scores will drop. That is why most anime at the top are sequels.


Also, personally I think the S2 was better (especially the second part). S3 was just a conclusion. Conclusions are almost never the best part of a story and this one is not an exception.

i see, so it's called Sampling bias. i always thought about this regarding the ratings of sequels but was never able to communicate my thoughts in a short and concise manner since i never knew this term.
Thanks a lot, i learned something new today.
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Many have said it already but Akita’s character arc is the biggest downfall of this season.
She’s done too many fucked up shit to the point it’s irredeemable so I didn’t like when there’s pretty much no liability for her in the end.
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It’s funny cause a lot of stuff people complain about with Fruba, especially the final season...those same type of issues are a lot more magnified in nearly every other Shoujo series (at least with the ones I’ve seen). I think the flaws here just stood out more because of the faster pacing from being single cour.
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JanPri said:

Maybe it was because some things felt rushed or oversimplified (tbh, Momiji's sudden "grow spurt" was one of the weirdest things I've ever seen)...
Maybe it was because I had expected it to end differently...



As someone who was traumatized by her brother's sudden growth spout, Momiji's growth seemed natural to me. What ending did you expect? I am curious
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Kyo and tohru took how many seasons to get together but Yuki and what’s her name again? Took an episode to kiss lmao


People keep forgetting episode 3 of this season and it gets me every time! I loved the chalk moment and everyone seems to have forgotten about it. (Picture a chibi girl in a comedy going on a rant about how people forgot that episode)

Yuki and Machi were slowly and lees obvious building their romance (the maple leaf bookmark was a node to episode 2x17). I think Yuki got a lot of experience from all the third wheeling he did, plus his fight with Kyo and he decided to go for the kill instead of waiting two years as Kyo and Tohru did.

In the end Yuki and Machi is another sore spot for many fans it seems.
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Thank you everyone for your answers!
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Cause it topped the rankings
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Just felt like there needed to be a few more episodes really. An episode to build up Yuki and Machi a little more, an episode or two for Kyoko and Katsuya's backstory and I'd have liked a happy ending for poor Momiji lmao, is he just alone for life or what? Even just a still of him holding his sister in the last episode or something. Regardless, I don't hate the final season. In fact, it's one of my favourite anime ever. Episode 8 and 11 were incredible. Last episode had me beaming too. Masterpiece.
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Rejuvenation said:
I didn't give this a 1-star but I did hate the final season. A lot of it comes down to Akito not being held accountable or even bothering to apologize for her actions either.


definitely makes sense. personally I felt she wasn't meant to be redeemed, and I think the part with Rin shows that not everyone has forgiven her, even if they can't really "defeat her" or something like you could in an action show


I agree event tho the protagonist actually redeems a lot of people, not actually redeems I dont know how to explain it...

I think that something tohru tried to show to Akito is that she understood her and making her apologize wouldn't change a thing, they should go on and try the best to be better people (that's the way she acted with everyone in the show) while Akito wanted someone to "punish" her, she didn't wanted to tohru just redeem her, she wanted the consequences so she could "pay off". This is something that she talks to momiji (calling kazuma and her idiots).
I think it is actually a good thing (in the anime and character development) to akito dont just apologize, and she actually talked about it with shigure. In fact she is still learning, she can't just change suddenly as she until that point thought that she could do anything she wanted since she was born. The anime is about understanding themselves and changing, is about to stop just blaming other people and about understanding that every action there has a reason, etc.
(But if I was tohru i would have just killed Akito in the second season to be honest ;-;)

All this apologize, redemption and development is something to be deeply analysed in fruits basket, because as you said, is not something about having two different sides, defeating or having one to apologize after defeated, about blaming the "wrong" side.

Also about the couples, I think it's because some of them don't have something too different to talk about (like kisa and hiro for example). But when it comes to kazuma and uotani I agree there should have a better development.
(I just think sometimes not everyone needs to end up in a relationship to be happy, like some romance series shows, at least they dont just throw a random person to be a couple with momiji)

(PS: I am sorry if I wrote something wrong, it was confusing or if I misunderstood something in this message, this is my opinion and I could be wrong anyway. And also English is not my first language, I am still learning)

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Ending is 8/10 not masterpiece
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Tohru and kyo just started dating and i only see a big time skip.. I wany to see more of them moving out together and see them marrying
...or i just cant move on
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Tohru and kyo just started dating and i only see a big time skip.. I wany to see more of them moving out together and see them marrying
...or i just cant move on



I feel you! I would have loved to have 13 episodes with the two of them just dating, getting married and been happy together. If only had the Manga artist included something like that in the Manga.

Maybe if they adapt Fruits Basket:another, they will add stuff like that.

I cannot move on either...
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Glad to see most of the complaints in this thread are things that weren't a problem in the manga.
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Actually, I'm really like it! Well true that akito is very cruel, but what I like is the other characters really kind and makes us feel more human and I think that give us something to learn like we must forgive people who hurt us. I meant is not like we're forget what they did to us, is just to make us more stronger because we must know that world isn't that easy. Sometimes human is not human but more like
a demonn ? I guess
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Definitely did not hate the season at all but I did find there was quite a few characters being left out such as Kagura, Ayame, Hatori and Ritsu. Ren wasnt shown as much as I would have liked seemingly since she seemed to be a main part of Akito. Due to the short amount of episodes it wasn't really that they rushed the season but more like they cut and shortened it if that makes sense??
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Didn't hate it but thought it was weaker than the first two seasons for a few reasons. Still gave a 7 to all seasons, could have been a 8 for S2 I guess. A few points:

- A lot of things around Akito annoy me, as many people here I see. I hate her so much and it's really unsatisfying to see basically everyone forgive her, while she goes on to live a happy life after ruining the lifes of so many people.

- Shigure loving Akito since the day she's born is creepy AF and it's sad nobody in the story seems to confront him about it.

- Yuki and Machi felt a bit rushed. Sure, there was that nice Episode 3, which was building up to something, but then Machi barely appeared till Episode... 12. So, that came a bit out of nowhere.

- The biggest mystery in S1 is what this Zodiac curse is. And sure, we learn more about how the curse started, but there is no explanation on why the curse is ending. For the last ones, Akito seems to be doing it voluntarily, but what about the first ones? Is it just the curse becoming weaker after so much time?

- Some weird pacing, like that absurd growth spurt already mentioned in this thread. Nothing too bad, but that was handled better in the first two seasons I feel. I've read some parts of the manga were skipped and condensed, but outside of things I've mentioned, it didn't disturb me.
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Toadounet said:
- Yuki and Machi felt a bit rushed. Sure, there was that nice Episode 3, which was building up to something, but then Machi barely appeared till Episode... 12. So, that came a bit out of nowhere.

I can't agree with that. Machi-Yuki got plenty of development during S2. You could already tell they'll end up together.

Toadounet said:
- The biggest mystery in S1 is what this Zodiac curse is. And sure, we learn more about how the curse started, but there is no explanation on why the curse is ending. For the last ones, Akito seems to be doing it voluntarily, but what about the first ones? Is it just the curse becoming weaker after so much time?

Shigure himself explained that the curse is ending soon. Just like that. Well, Kureno's curse was long gone even before S3.

Anyway, I give it 8/10.
Quite interesing shoujo but that score drama actually made me hate this show a tiny bit. I mean, it's obviously not that good. The adaptation is rushed, and the story is kinda absurd at some points. The fact that FB got >9 is actually cringe. Even if I like this show.
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Note: This is not another thread where we talk about the ratings.

I know that some of the 1-star ratings are from people who don't like to see The final season on the top anime, but some of them must be genuine. As someone who thinks that this season is everything we deserved and more and a perfect ending to the anime, I can't help but wonder what made you hate the final season. I know Akito is a controversial topic and I think that is ok for everyone to decide to forgive her or not.


Mod Edit: Adjusted title and first line to help prevent off-topic posts.


No one hated the final season ,it's just that some people can't believe that something like fruits basket has gone above Full metal Alchemist brotherhood
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It happens with every show. It happened on a way bigger scale during AoT FS (5th season), where even the fanboys were throwing 1s because of CGI. And there were other butthurt people too.

But somehow people get upset when 'their show' is affected.

Anime was it's best 20000 years ago, when cavemen drew art with real depth.
Modern anime is all garbage. I miss great old days of anime.
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Lol toxic fans go touch some grass. You'll destroy the reputation of MAL because of toxicity.



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