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May 19, 2021 10:42 AM
#1
Do you think the Original Ending was better. Has Isayama ruined the whole series for you? Was the new Ending way better? . Would we get Beren-Eren the next generation? Lmao. What are your thoughts?. |
May 19, 2021 11:12 AM
#2
Not much to say. Isayama ruining my mikasa x annie ship instantly made me give it a 1/10 |
May 19, 2021 12:03 PM
#3
May 19, 2021 12:07 PM
#4
Ok i will answer with irony as well. I disliked the new ending because all the "Here are 10 reasons that AoT ending was great" articles and essays need to be rewritten. |
May 19, 2021 12:10 PM
#5
Eren has become the most neglected protagonist in the manga world. Only thing he wished for in the end that he could stay with everyone and insisted that mikasa does not get a man. Then, mikasa got herself horsed. What a way to ruin everything. Eren's wish meant shit to everyone |
May 19, 2021 12:29 PM
#6
Ruined it for me even more. Paradise built up a whole new world only for it to be destroyed. |
May 20, 2021 1:45 PM
#7
Completely unnecessary, vague and meh. |
"Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
May 20, 2021 4:24 PM
#8
I liked and at some point defended the original ending. Now, it's less interesting... |
May 20, 2021 5:15 PM
#9
It's like the story is even more pointless now as it seems to be repeating in a loop. (whoever that was at the end probably entered the tree and got hallucigenia'd and titan powers came back) |
May 20, 2021 5:45 PM
#10
I think there should be a law in Japan that prevents Isayama from picking up a pen or pencil ever again |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
May 20, 2021 6:12 PM
#11
yaegerist-15 said: I think there should be a law in Japan that prevents Isayama from picking up a pen or pencil ever again Thank you sir, that was the best thing I read today |
Imagine how boring this world would be without Japan - a comment at youtube |
May 20, 2021 11:45 PM
#13
they are realistic and logical since the island should be destroyed without titan powers to protect them, but it builds upon poor writing and character assassination, doesn't change the fact that the end is trash, the most thing that I didn't like that if the author decided to ship Mikasa and Jean why he didn't ship Eren and Historia as the story was preparing. |
JosephSaber40May 22, 2021 11:09 AM
May 21, 2021 4:14 AM
#14
Already thought it was bad since 137. But atleast im kinda happy because i was right about Paradis getting destroyed after 139 defenders saying that peace is still possible lmao |
May 21, 2021 6:01 AM
#15
unnecessary, extra pages made the ending worse. |
Everyone has times when they've come up against a wall and feel like giving up on everything and running away. But you mustn't forget that during these times when the going is rough, the soul inside of you will try to create something to break through that wall. And don't forget that in your suffering there is something very precious. We're all suffering in agony with our troublesome lives. Sometimes it comes to tears. When that happens, let it flow as much as it wants. If it still doesn't stop flowing, then we'll come and mop it up. - Gintoki |
May 21, 2021 6:46 AM
#17
Jean and Mikasa ended up together! I literally do not care about anything else. I've been shipping them for quite sometime and was really bummed out about how 139 ended but 139.5 brought my ship back from the dead. My summary of 139 + 139.5: Incel eren died and Jean and Mikasa finally got together. The end! |
May 21, 2021 6:55 AM
#18
It has become a masterpiece of a disastrous ending by being so bad. |
May 21, 2021 8:07 AM
#19
JosephSaber40 said: a good way to sum up. Agreed.they are realistic and logical since the island should be destroyed without titan powers to protect them, but it builds upon poor writing and character assassination, doesn't change the fact that the end is trash. |
May 21, 2021 9:12 AM
#20
The ending was shit, and then they added additional pages, that made the ending much worse and talking about Eren. He is nothing more than a crybaby now. Beren, that is also trash. I prefer the AnR ending over these pathetic or ridiculous, whatever you want to regard them as. |
“You know, the only thing that matters is the ending. It's the most important part of the story, the ending.” -Johnny Depp - Mort Rainey | Secret Window (2004) And Attack on Titan failed miserably in doing so. Its fate will be the same as Game of Thrones. |
May 21, 2021 9:38 AM
#21
May 21, 2021 9:44 AM
#22
It took me quite a while to understand the last few pages, and so far I'm trying to figure out what the fuck Isayama was thinking about. No matter how many times I read it, I can't understand how the hell he came up with that idea. |
May 21, 2021 10:07 AM
#23
PillowDevil said: It took me quite a while to understand the last few pages, and so far I'm trying to figure out what the fuck Isayama was thinking about. No matter how many times I read it, I can't understand how the hell he came up with that idea. He didn't want to have a happy full peace ending, but he also didn't want the alliance to face the consequences for stopping Eren directly, so instead of the world destroying Paradis within a decade he made it happen after they are long gone. He also didn't want to face the criticism that Mikasa became a young widow tied to Eren's grave, so he made her move on with another man without actually having her move on at all. He wanted to have his cake and eat it too, completely spineless. He will probably gauge the reactions and use the character encyclopedia to double down or retract things. |
May 21, 2021 10:12 AM
#24
the way that isayama really fucking ruined his once-great series, it's one of the biggest tragedies i have ever witnessed through entertainment media or shit. |
May 21, 2021 10:46 AM
#25
I mostly had issues with how eren character and the founder ymir/titan worm was concluded. I wished that it had an extra few chapters fleshly the topics out. Same goes with the aftermath. I had no problem with the content, again i would liked atleast a chapter or 2 to cover the full effect of eren's action of genocide. The extra pages doesn't really helped with the issues i had with ending but it gave some sort of "interesting" end. The whole tree looking like the one that ymir found, it's save to assume that titan power might come back since but it could still be a normal tree. (I think the titan worm dissolved after mikasa killed eren??) Either way, if former is true, then the whole message of the ending is that history will repeat as humans will always cause conflict and will always by tied ti the past, like what armin said. They tried their best to bring peace but it wasn't enough.Humans should treat each other with equality but that's something we still struggle to achieve in the real world. I think the only thing that eren gave or achieved was the time for his friends to have a long life. I felt that was his most genuine wish along with the destruction of titans. He lost so many people in his life so i don't blame him for doing anything but can't condemn him for choosing genocide as his "choice" I do agree that the ending had many problems and felt disappointed with it but i think i still enjoyed what the author had written. A story about war, freedom, conflict and mant more themes that we can apply to the real world. Along with the many interesting characters and mysteries that kept me amazed for the past few years. I gave the new ending a 7/10. Its always hard to finish a story off But i would still gave the overall experience a 9/10. This is still a journey i won't forget. (Please feel free to comment your repsonse, i don't mind reading any of negative thought, i don't blame you at all) |
May 21, 2021 11:31 AM
#26
Kakez_001 said: I gave the new ending a 7/10. Its always hard to finish a story off But i would still gave the overall experience a 9/10. This is still a journey i won't forget. Wrapping up a story is indeed a difficult task and it depends of how many loose ends you have. All Isayama had to do for a satisfying ending, was follow through with any logical conclusion of the conflict he had set up. With the last twist the entire narrative collapsed to make MIkasa the key to everything and it ended up making both Eren, Mikasa and Ymir look worse. Every serious theme that gave the story weight became just a gimmick that adds edge. I can't think of a possible conclusion that is worse than this. A joke ending that he woke up in highschool would have been better. |
majinaleMay 21, 2021 11:58 AM
May 21, 2021 12:00 PM
#27
majinale said: Kakez_001 said: I gave the new ending a 7/10. Its always hard to finish a story off But i would still gave the overall experience a 9/10. This is still a journey i won't forget. Wrapping up a story is indeed a difficult task and it depends of how many loose ends you have. All Isayama had to do for a satisfying ending, was follow through with any logical conclusion of the conflict he had set up. With the last twist the entire narrative collapsed to make MIkasa the key to everything and it ended up making both Eren, Mikasa and Ymir look worse. Every serious theme that gave the story weight became just a gimmick that adds edge. I can't think of a possible conclusion that is worse that this. A joke ending that he woke up in highschool would have been better. Ngl, that joke highschool ending is still funny. And i definitely can agree that the ending can be written better. I look foward to see how the anime will do that since the author does work with the studio both mappa and wit. Maybe he'll find a way to adjust the ending after giving it some more thought but we'll probably gonna be back to complain a year later :) |
May 21, 2021 12:27 PM
#28
Kakez_001 said: majinale said: Kakez_001 said: I gave the new ending a 7/10. Its always hard to finish a story off But i would still gave the overall experience a 9/10. This is still a journey i won't forget. Wrapping up a story is indeed a difficult task and it depends of how many loose ends you have. All Isayama had to do for a satisfying ending, was follow through with any logical conclusion of the conflict he had set up. With the last twist the entire narrative collapsed to make MIkasa the key to everything and it ended up making both Eren, Mikasa and Ymir look worse. Every serious theme that gave the story weight became just a gimmick that adds edge. I can't think of a possible conclusion that is worse that this. A joke ending that he woke up in highschool would have been better. Ngl, that joke highschool ending is still funny. And i definitely can agree that the ending can be written better. I look foward to see how the anime will do that since the author does work with the studio both mappa and wit. Maybe he'll find a way to adjust the ending after giving it some more thought but we'll probably gonna be back to complain a year later :) I don't think that there is enough time for adjustments in the anime, the storyboards are probably already finished for all episodes and Mappa is cutting it close having to animate the rumbling scenes (they also have a gazillion projects). You can only hope that Isayama pre-discussed changes with Mappa or he bamboozles everyone with a different ending for the anime. If this ends up animated as is it will be a disaster, because anime is less forgiving in bad transitions. I mean look at part1 , the direction was very basic simply following the manga panel by panel. |
May 21, 2021 12:38 PM
#29
majinale said: Kakez_001 said: majinale said: Kakez_001 said: I gave the new ending a 7/10. Its always hard to finish a story off But i would still gave the overall experience a 9/10. This is still a journey i won't forget. Wrapping up a story is indeed a difficult task and it depends of how many loose ends you have. All Isayama had to do for a satisfying ending, was follow through with any logical conclusion of the conflict he had set up. With the last twist the entire narrative collapsed to make MIkasa the key to everything and it ended up making both Eren, Mikasa and Ymir look worse. Every serious theme that gave the story weight became just a gimmick that adds edge. I can't think of a possible conclusion that is worse that this. A joke ending that he woke up in highschool would have been better. Ngl, that joke highschool ending is still funny. And i definitely can agree that the ending can be written better. I look foward to see how the anime will do that since the author does work with the studio both mappa and wit. Maybe he'll find a way to adjust the ending after giving it some more thought but we'll probably gonna be back to complain a year later :) I don't think that there is enough time for adjustments in the anime, the storyboards are probably already finished for all episodes and Mappa is cutting it close having to animate the rumbling scenes (they also have a gazillion projects). You can only hope that Isayama pre-discussed changes with Mappa or he bamboozles everyone with a different ending for the anime. If this ends up animated as is it will be a disaster, because anime is less forgiving in bad transitions. I mean look at part1 , the direction was very basic simply following the manga panel by panel. Yeah, part 1 was really faithful. With stuff getting cut out or shorten for the marley arc, i think the 2nd arc was very well adapted. Seeing it animated is very satisfying. I guess the anime will definitely have the same ending but i would still have faith in some original scenes for the last ep just like that one with willy and his children. I still forward to seeing the rumbling arc animated. Despite the ending, there were so many great moments. |
May 21, 2021 12:50 PM
#30
Kakez_001 said: majinale said: Kakez_001 said: majinale said: Kakez_001 said: I gave the new ending a 7/10. Its always hard to finish a story off But i would still gave the overall experience a 9/10. This is still a journey i won't forget. Wrapping up a story is indeed a difficult task and it depends of how many loose ends you have. All Isayama had to do for a satisfying ending, was follow through with any logical conclusion of the conflict he had set up. With the last twist the entire narrative collapsed to make MIkasa the key to everything and it ended up making both Eren, Mikasa and Ymir look worse. Every serious theme that gave the story weight became just a gimmick that adds edge. I can't think of a possible conclusion that is worse that this. A joke ending that he woke up in highschool would have been better. Ngl, that joke highschool ending is still funny. And i definitely can agree that the ending can be written better. I look foward to see how the anime will do that since the author does work with the studio both mappa and wit. Maybe he'll find a way to adjust the ending after giving it some more thought but we'll probably gonna be back to complain a year later :) I don't think that there is enough time for adjustments in the anime, the storyboards are probably already finished for all episodes and Mappa is cutting it close having to animate the rumbling scenes (they also have a gazillion projects). You can only hope that Isayama pre-discussed changes with Mappa or he bamboozles everyone with a different ending for the anime. If this ends up animated as is it will be a disaster, because anime is less forgiving in bad transitions. I mean look at part1 , the direction was very basic simply following the manga panel by panel. Yeah, part 1 was really faithful. With stuff getting cut out or shorten for the marley arc, i think the 2nd arc was very well adapted. Seeing it animated is very satisfying. I guess the anime will definitely have the same ending but i would still have faith in some original scenes for the last ep just like that one with willy and his children. I still forward to seeing the rumbling arc animated. Despite the ending, there were so many great moments. You are very optimistic. Sadly optimists are usually the people that get the biggest amount of disappointment. I wish that you get what you hope for. |
May 21, 2021 3:57 PM
#31
They're uh... they're shit The original ending was actually better. Can't believe I'm praising it. |
May 21, 2021 5:24 PM
#32
Good, a realistic one, people seems to know nothing about history and how human work |
I keep moving forward |
May 21, 2021 5:49 PM
#33
While I feel better about the ending, it helps to reaffirm how disappointing the entire final arc was. I lowered my score because of it, but I actually feel a bit relieved as a result. |
May 21, 2021 7:23 PM
#34
yaegerist-15 said: +1 upvoteI think there should be a law in Japan that prevents Isayama from picking up a pen or pencil ever again +1 Platinum award |
May 21, 2021 7:57 PM
#35
Eh. It's kind of just in the "whatever" category for me. I still have the manga as a 9/10 overall |
ManWild |
May 21, 2021 8:08 PM
#36
yaegerist-15 said: I think there should be a law in Japan that prevents Isayama from picking up a pen or pencil ever again what could you expect from someone who calls themselves a yeagerists.you just wanted eren to mindlessly kill people and that’s why you’re not content with the ending. |
May 21, 2021 8:13 PM
#37
majinale said: Kakez_001 said: I gave the new ending a 7/10. Its always hard to finish a story off But i would still gave the overall experience a 9/10. This is still a journey i won't forget. Wrapping up a story is indeed a difficult task and it depends of how many loose ends you have. All Isayama had to do for a satisfying ending, was follow through with any logical conclusion of the conflict he had set up. With the last twist the entire narrative collapsed to make MIkasa the key to everything and it ended up making both Eren, Mikasa and Ymir look worse. Every serious theme that gave the story weight became just a gimmick that adds edge. I can't think of a possible conclusion that is worse than this. A joke ending that he woke up in highschool would have been better. the ending theme was foreshadowed and mikasa and eren both received proper character conclusions so why are you mad that the focus shifted to mikasa?aot ending haters make 0 sense. |
May 21, 2021 8:43 PM
#38
I liked the extra panel which were added , I am glad Mikasa decided to move forward and lastly most of the people are disappointed as according to them Eren accomplished nothing as paradise was destroyed , for them they have to remember Eren is not god , this would have happened someday or the other Eren just delivery the process , it seem more realistic to me |
May 21, 2021 8:43 PM
#39
__kami said: majinale said: Kakez_001 said: I gave the new ending a 7/10. Its always hard to finish a story off But i would still gave the overall experience a 9/10. This is still a journey i won't forget. Wrapping up a story is indeed a difficult task and it depends of how many loose ends you have. All Isayama had to do for a satisfying ending, was follow through with any logical conclusion of the conflict he had set up. With the last twist the entire narrative collapsed to make MIkasa the key to everything and it ended up making both Eren, Mikasa and Ymir look worse. Every serious theme that gave the story weight became just a gimmick that adds edge. I can't think of a possible conclusion that is worse than this. A joke ending that he woke up in highschool would have been better. the ending theme was foreshadowed and mikasa and eren both received proper character conclusions so why are you mad that the focus shifted to mikasa?aot ending haters make 0 sense. Well, the excessive focus on Mikasa didn’t make much sense, because the author practically didn’t even change her personality. Is she tied to Eren? Isn't she tied to Eren? And what was that part about Ymir needing Mikasa? Just making her let go of Eren would fit the situation a lot better, but it seemed like Isayama wanted to look more genius than he really is. |
May 21, 2021 11:59 PM
#40
__kami said: majinale said: Kakez_001 said: I gave the new ending a 7/10. Its always hard to finish a story off But i would still gave the overall experience a 9/10. This is still a journey i won't forget. Wrapping up a story is indeed a difficult task and it depends of how many loose ends you have. All Isayama had to do for a satisfying ending, was follow through with any logical conclusion of the conflict he had set up. With the last twist the entire narrative collapsed to make MIkasa the key to everything and it ended up making both Eren, Mikasa and Ymir look worse. Every serious theme that gave the story weight became just a gimmick that adds edge. I can't think of a possible conclusion that is worse than this. A joke ending that he woke up in highschool would have been better. the ending theme was foreshadowed and mikasa and eren both received proper character conclusions so why are you mad that the focus shifted to mikasa?aot ending haters make 0 sense. Oh it's those damn haters again. What does ending haters even mean? Is this a new way to discredit anyone that does not agree with your worldview? I don't harbor any hatred, just disappointment. |
majinaleMay 22, 2021 12:09 AM
May 22, 2021 4:16 AM
#41
majinale said: Kakez_001 said: majinale said: Kakez_001 said: majinale said: Kakez_001 said: I gave the new ending a 7/10. Its always hard to finish a story off But i would still gave the overall experience a 9/10. This is still a journey i won't forget. Wrapping up a story is indeed a difficult task and it depends of how many loose ends you have. All Isayama had to do for a satisfying ending, was follow through with any logical conclusion of the conflict he had set up. With the last twist the entire narrative collapsed to make MIkasa the key to everything and it ended up making both Eren, Mikasa and Ymir look worse. Every serious theme that gave the story weight became just a gimmick that adds edge. I can't think of a possible conclusion that is worse that this. A joke ending that he woke up in highschool would have been better. Ngl, that joke highschool ending is still funny. And i definitely can agree that the ending can be written better. I look foward to see how the anime will do that since the author does work with the studio both mappa and wit. Maybe he'll find a way to adjust the ending after giving it some more thought but we'll probably gonna be back to complain a year later :) I don't think that there is enough time for adjustments in the anime, the storyboards are probably already finished for all episodes and Mappa is cutting it close having to animate the rumbling scenes (they also have a gazillion projects). You can only hope that Isayama pre-discussed changes with Mappa or he bamboozles everyone with a different ending for the anime. If this ends up animated as is it will be a disaster, because anime is less forgiving in bad transitions. I mean look at part1 , the direction was very basic simply following the manga panel by panel. Yeah, part 1 was really faithful. With stuff getting cut out or shorten for the marley arc, i think the 2nd arc was very well adapted. Seeing it animated is very satisfying. I guess the anime will definitely have the same ending but i would still have faith in some original scenes for the last ep just like that one with willy and his children. I still forward to seeing the rumbling arc animated. Despite the ending, there were so many great moments. You are very optimistic. Sadly optimists are usually the people that get the biggest amount of disappointment. I wish that you get what you hope for. Yeah, I mean I'm still disappointed with how the ending turned out considering how good chapter 138 was. Mikasa killing eren was foreshadowed since the beginning of the anime. E.g. ending 2 for 1st season where mikasa was holding her hands in tbe rain. A image of a praying mantis was behind her. Female praying mantis cuts off their male partner's head so it was kinda crazy to see it happen so many years later. But seeing an amazing story get a disappointing ending is sad but it's not like that's the only amazing story in the world so... "I'll keep moving forward" :) |
May 22, 2021 8:09 AM
#42
majinale said: __kami said: majinale said: Kakez_001 said: I gave the new ending a 7/10. Its always hard to finish a story off But i would still gave the overall experience a 9/10. This is still a journey i won't forget. Wrapping up a story is indeed a difficult task and it depends of how many loose ends you have. All Isayama had to do for a satisfying ending, was follow through with any logical conclusion of the conflict he had set up. With the last twist the entire narrative collapsed to make MIkasa the key to everything and it ended up making both Eren, Mikasa and Ymir look worse. Every serious theme that gave the story weight became just a gimmick that adds edge. I can't think of a possible conclusion that is worse than this. A joke ending that he woke up in highschool would have been better. the ending theme was foreshadowed and mikasa and eren both received proper character conclusions so why are you mad that the focus shifted to mikasa?aot ending haters make 0 sense. Oh it's those damn haters again. What does ending haters even mean? Is this a new way to discredit anyone that does not agree with your worldview? I don't harbor any hatred, just disappointment. i’m not gonna lie i just came up with the term but my point still stands. |
May 22, 2021 9:29 AM
#43
AOT/Stay Night : Unlimited Bait Works, By Hajime Isayama |
May 22, 2021 4:30 PM
#44
AcD4c said: yaegerist-15 said: I think there should be a law in Japan that prevents Isayama from picking up a pen or pencil ever again Thank you sir, that was the best thing I read today Xesty17 said: yaegerist-15 said: +1 upvoteI think there should be a law in Japan that prevents Isayama from picking up a pen or pencil ever again +1 Platinum award just common sense ;) |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
May 22, 2021 4:34 PM
#45
__kami said: yup sure because of my name Im soooo edgy and just want people dying haha. You just wanted eren to be an Incel like in 139 because its so human. I mean his only goal was that his friends could have long lives :( even if Sasha, hanji and Floch died and even if he didn't know if they would survive. glorious ending indeed but ofc im too edgy to see that good ending. Imagine being that braindead and think eren got a good character conclusion, yikesyaegerist-15 said: I think there should be a law in Japan that prevents Isayama from picking up a pen or pencil ever again what could you expect from someone who calls themselves a yeagerists.you just wanted eren to mindlessly kill people and that’s why you’re not content with the ending. |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
May 22, 2021 4:39 PM
#46
yaegerist-15 said: __kami said: yup sure because of my name Im soooo edgy and just want people dying haha. You just wanted eren to be an Incel like in 139 because its so human. I mean his only goal was that his friends could have long lives :( even if Sasha, hanji and Floch died and even if he didn't know if they would survive. glorious ending indeed but ofc im too edgy to see that good ending. Imagine being that braindead and think eren got a good character conclusion, yikesyaegerist-15 said: I think there should be a law in Japan that prevents Isayama from picking up a pen or pencil ever again what could you expect from someone who calls themselves a yeagerists.you just wanted eren to mindlessly kill people and that’s why you’re not content with the ending. imagine being that brain dead to think that eren didn’t get a proper character conclusion.i’m sorry i never knew that expressing emotion=incel. |
May 22, 2021 4:48 PM
#47
__kami said: yeah cause mikasas feeling are more important than how he let his mother die or how he is about to kill 80% of the world. His love with mikasa had such a good build up lmao. If you want eren with emotions then read 130/131 again. But yeah keep believing that everything was a facade, even his inner monologue and when he was alone. And hey the only way to show emotions is possible with crying, every other aspect was "chadren"yaegerist-15 said: __kami said: yaegerist-15 said: I think there should be a law in Japan that prevents Isayama from picking up a pen or pencil ever again what could you expect from someone who calls themselves a yeagerists.you just wanted eren to mindlessly kill people and that’s why you’re not content with the ending. imagine being that brain dead to think that eren didn’t get a proper character conclusion.i’m sorry i never knew that expressing emotion=incel. |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
May 22, 2021 5:25 PM
#48
YOOO FLOCH WAS RIGHT! PLus the ending was shit and it's still shit, I guess we are waiting for the Shingeki Shippuden LOL |
May 22, 2021 10:17 PM
#49
They made this ending better for me. Those panels didn't fix it (there are still those weird panels with Eren and Armin, or with Reiner sniffing letter written by Historia), but improved it and enhanced it to make it more consistent and entertaining to read. In short, those extra pages didn't fix the ending and didn't ruin it. It just improved it in a good way (though improvements were not that big, thus I can't say that this ending was fixed greatly; it was just enriched with additional content, making the whole chapter a little bit better than it was before). |
May 22, 2021 10:30 PM
#50
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