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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- The world really is a cruel place. In order for these kids all to survive, they have to trust in themselves and Norman knows that. The character study of Emma also is important to show how much she has matured up to this point. Emma getting intimidated was also a chilling scene but she's still keeping her mental state of mind in check. |
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| WELL OK...other than the differences in the manga space, I'd say that the dialogue itself still remains faithful to the source material (whilst only having relevant content). Norman's anticlimatic reveal with the Grace Field kids was a reunion worth waiting for...if they didn't skip the Goldy Pond arc. Being housed in the Lambda-7214 testing facility and subjected to worse torturing than Grace Field House. Lucky that was destroyed by Norman and supporters of William Minerva, and the escape. With the demon degenerating drug, and to turn the world upside down that favors the children, it's a lofty objective that time doesn't have, and to act fast. Emma though, is havng 2nd thoughts about Norman's plan: to have a world where demons and human co-exist, the way that Mujika and Sonju conversed with them. To find a compromise between following and objecting Norman's idea, that is something only Emma or Ray can do. The Lambda kids of Zazie, Cislo, Barbara and Vincent...as obnoxious as they can be, they all are dedicated to Norman's cause, and this ride cannot be reversed. Seems like Norman has a bad impression of Mujika...the Evil-Blooded Girl? |
KANLen09Feb 18, 2021 12:01 PM
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Finally everyone met Norman, Norman's speech was kinda good also Emma already understands that demons are demons and live for their families.. Ehh .. Barbara ate demon meat? Is it okay to eat demon meat? lol |
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| Let's see how they wrap up this story in 5 episodes. |
| Mujika and Sonju, how do they survive without eating humans?? Norman's friends from Lambda definitely aren't changing their minds, demons NEED to be exterminated, it's beneficial for all humans. Demons having to eat humans to maintain their appearance and mental fortitude is useful info. Emma is too merciful, kill those demons!! |
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| Finally got to watch the ep on Funi, an hour later. And as expected, it only delayed my annoyance. This episode confirmed that GP is definitely going to be skipped and honestly I’m thinking they’re going to try and wrap the entire story up in 5 episodes. What the fuck. This is just a big “fuck you” to the fans who’ve followed this story for so long. I’m just speechless. One thing I will say they did right was Barbara and Vincent. Still can’t get over that they’re not even gonna age Norman up like the manga. |
Marinate1016Feb 18, 2021 11:49 AM
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| So they added Norman and his gang in the OP. That explains why the shot with Emma and Ray with a brightly lit backdrop looked unbalanced. Its nice to see the Lambda kids... Honestly the scene when Emma, Ray and the others discuss how Norman is always makes me laugh That's about it for the good parts though. The pacing really irritates me though... |
| damn they cut ray and norman playing chess. dialogue is pretty much the same except it happens in different locations. mannn, because they cut out so much, some context in the dialogue is lost. they add norman in the op now lol i knew it. I have no reason to emphatize with the demons. They only showed one scene of a young demon getting sick. That ain't enough. OK episode tbh |
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| The episode wasn't really bad (since it mostly adapted manga dialogues), just really boring despite being rushed as always |
| Seeing their little reunion was great. Norman has changed a lot. Listening to Emma's decision shows how far she has come and how mature she become. It'll be interesting to watch how things will work out with two individuals having different opinions. Because most such cases don't go as planned. |
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| That's it, I'm putting this anime on hold for seven months because now I am 100% sure it will spoil the final arc for me. I wish the official manga releases in my country were a bit faster... |
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| Norman is back and they're all happy to be with him but seems like it's different, especially for Norman's personality compared to how he was previously with the kids, and the discussion between Ray and Emma was really interesting to be honest, she's thinking at the demons as living being with sentiments, families etc but Norman's new crew doesn't agree with that idea and they have clearly shown it by eating a demon right in front of them... and wow that end of episode, it seems that the situation is tenser that what they thought because of the demon they met previously, I guess that Norman know them and that they're really different than how they have been acting with Emma and Ray, I suppose that they are a bit too naive about the demon's real nature |
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| They did it folks, they did it, they took out all the stuff people liked and gave us the point where people say the manga jumped ship, honestly I'm just laughing at how bad this season has become, hell, even anime onlies are starting to get tired of it, this is nothing but an unintentional comedy now, which I will enjoy ironically til the end |
Damuzen said: The episode wasn't really bad (since it mostly adapted manga dialogues), just really boring despite being rushed as always The funny part is, the dialogues with Norman about the demons and Emma's reactions and all that from the manga are adapted here, and that's the part that most manga readers say is the worst point in the series |
| You might think I'm twisted but I completely agree to wipe out the demon race. There's no garantee that demons will comply living peacefully with humans - their food. It will end up being a twisted world and demons will eventually overpower the human race and this cycle will repeat again and again. I get that there are demons that don't eat humans, but Sonju clearly stated that he'd like to eat humans once they have a dense population. If anyone wants to prove me wrong, go ahead. |
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| I'm an anime only so I don't really know the changes they've made to the story so my opinion is purely on what I'm seeing in the anime and as of this episode, I've decided this season is really not good. It feels like a huge chunk of the story just doesn't exist which is making the plot really lackluster and the whole tone of the anime has changed drastically from the first season. There's no tension caused by high stakes and the characters are developing at all, neither are we exploring the world around them in a meaningful way; it's all just piled on us through dialogue. It seems like they're setting Norman up to become a villainous character and that might work if he hadn't reappeared so soon but it's just waaaay too out of character for him after only just over a year of being gone. The Promised Neverland has most certainly done a Tokyo Ghoul and it's so disappointing cause this was one of the best anime series to release in recent years. |
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| Episode 6 is out, and here we catch up with norman as he explains to the rest of the kids what hes been up to . Turns out he was taken to be experimented on at a lambda site, where children spontaneously grew ill due to drugs they were testing. Luckily for norman, he says that he came out unscathed, with only a few tests being run on him. Norman reveals his grand plan of wiping out the demons, using a drug he created which will regress the demons back to less intelligent forms which will fight each other. Emma disagrees with this plan and later on ray comes to check up on her and the two agree to talk to norman about this. Normans friends are for the plan, with one of them eating demon meat. Norman and emma discuss the plans and emma mentions demons that dont regress, and norman breaks out in cold sweats as he proclaimes that the heretical girl is still alive. I quite enjoyed this episode as an anime only viewer and it gaveme vibes of the first season with something seeming off! Loved it! |
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| "I want to find a path without conflict". I don't know how she managed to lead the escape, or even be one of the top plantation scorers in the first place with this mentality. We even see back in the Escape arc that she had similar flawed ideals with wanting to escape with all the children - infants included. However, luckily she saw the undeniable flaw in that approach, so hopefully she can see it again in this arc. I understand that she is a child and all, but we can see Ray and Norman (who both also lead the escape from Grace Field, and were top scorers on the test) can accept that one's success does not come without another's loss. This is why I prefer Ray greatly to Emma, since he sees the low possibility of coexisting peacefully, but he still gives it a chance. The same can be seen in the Escape arc when he decided to opt for saving all the children above 5, instead of his original safer plan of just the top scorers escaping. His naivety for his age is also more believable, since he may be intelligent in the matter of choosing the right approach, but also falls for the trick of trusting the demons they met in the forest. Their lack of knowledge on the outside 'Neverland' and on demons is a high factor in this misjudgement however. |
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KaiserVonGogureo said: Damuzen said: The episode wasn't really bad (since it mostly adapted manga dialogues), just really boring despite being rushed as always The funny part is, the dialogues with Norman about the demons and Emma's reactions and all that from the manga are adapted here, and that's the part that most manga readers say is the worst point in the series Well, the worst part of the manga is the last arc but yeah this part wasn't great either Cloverworks skipped the good arc just to adapt the bad parts of the manga, well done |
| I'm glad that at least they didn't do a 3 year or smth time leap like last two episodes. |
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Damuzen said: KaiserVonGogureo said: The funny part is, the dialogues with Norman about the demons and Emma's reactions and all that from the manga are adapted here, and that's the part that most manga readers say is the worst point in the series Well, the worst part of the manga is the last arc but yeah this part wasn't great either Cloverworks skipped the good arc just to adapt the bad parts of the manga, well done Really? I thought most thought the worst arc was the one right after Cultivida, I can see why some say the worst is the final one, it felt rushed which I agree with. I really wish the capital battle was longer, would have given a chance for more of Norman's team to shine |
KANLen09 said: WELL OK...other than the differences in the manga space, I'd say that the dialogue itself still remains faithful to the source material (whilst only having relevant content). Norman was once part of the Lambda-7214 team, wanting to change the human-demon landscape and putting an end to the Neverland, that's a lofty goal, truth be told. The look on Emma and Ray's faces doesn't seem like they want to follow Norman's huge plan, and for personal reasons. in the manga, did this episode go exactly as it did in the manga? did Norman just spoon fed us all this exposition? or were we shown his backstory and what exactly he went thru to turn him into this cold-hearted boy? |
| hayai! are they planning to finish the whole story in 5 episodes? shits going downhill tbh, season 1 was amazing but so far s2 is nothing above mediocrity. Within one episode Norman comes back with his gang and a drug capable of exterminating almost all demons? and now it seems like there’s a plot twist with mujika and she’s actually evil? can’t say that’s well written. |
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| Now that I've made peace with the fact that this anime isn't going to deliver even a half-decent adaptation and lamented the piss-poor job Cloverworks were doing before the mid-season break, the episode in isolation wasn't that bad at all. It was much better than I expected it to be. Yes, Norman's introduction and brief backstory was ham-fisted and rushed, and a character like his deserved a far better re-introduction into the story, but setting him up as a potential antagonist to Emma could be an interesting move as they try and wrap this up in 5 episodes. The development of the Demon drug came out of the blue, but Norman's motivation for wanting to eradicate the demons are understandable, as are Emma's for wanting them to co-exist alongside humans, now that we know they aren't just unthinking monsters. I'm quite looking forward to see how this develops and what his relationship was to Mujika. All in all, a 6 out of 10 episode, and will continue to watch. |
| Honestly meeting Norman and him already having the drug or whatever seems a little too convenient but I will suspend my disbelief. I also really would like to know more about the experiments the children went through. Didn't the Also what's with Emma and that total 180. She's seen "2 good demons" for how long and we even know Sonju isn't oppose to eating humans so technically he isn't all that good and suddenly she wants to coexist with them. What about all those years she spent on that farm. |
ArkaisenFeb 18, 2021 12:01 PM
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| This is seriously becoming an Attack on Titan ripoff 🤦♂️ |
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ttcchen said: KANLen09 said: WELL OK...other than the differences in the manga space, I'd say that the dialogue itself still remains faithful to the source material (whilst only having relevant content). Norman was once part of the Lambda-7214 team, wanting to change the human-demon landscape and putting an end to the Neverland, that's a lofty goal, truth be told. The look on Emma and Ray's faces doesn't seem like they want to follow Norman's huge plan, and for personal reasons. in the manga, did this episode go exactly as it did in the manga? did Norman just spoon fed us all this exposition? or were we shown his backstory and what exactly he went thru to turn him into this cold-hearted boy? Yes, the setting was different as they were already in Norman's base, and it was just him, Emma, and Ray, but I don't think he had a drug, they were just gonna wipe em out, and yes they showed Lambda, not a whole lot, but a good amount I think, we never really found out how he escaped, but he and his crew along with another boy named Adam did, who has most likely been cut as he was in Goldy Pond, the manga also showed the scene right after Isabella takes him to be shipped, it skipped another important character introduction (who will be here as he's in the intro) |
| I didn't know it was possible for something to be rushed yet feel slow and boring at the same time lmao |
| Its nice to see the three leaders reunite once more. Lambda site sounds like a real grim place. His time at the lambda site though sure enabled him to formulate quite the plan. Majority rule though while certainly pleasing for this plan is not always the best plan as well. To his team Norman seems to be quite the different person. But persuading Norman and his team sure will be tough given their deep hatred of demons. But that revelation in end sure was a shocker. The kind hearted and gentle Mujika being labelled by Norman like that though. Overall an ep that focused on reintroducing Norman back to the cast as well as introducing his grand plan for extermination a task that it managed to do quite well. Curious at where this discussion goes though as the revelation served to redirect the discussion in a new direction. |
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| Ok, I can't deal with this bullshit of not killing the monsters, why does it always have to be like that?? It seems like every anime follows the same structure. I'm not kidding when I say there are about 100 idealistic Emma out there, not only that but Ray too? I can tell where this is going but I hope I'm wrong and they surprise me in a good way. |
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| Ok, that quickly turned weird way. Norman being alive was obvious from the first season. Him coming back was supposed to stir things up and it did. But brigning a weapon of mass destruction that instantly turns the tables? I think it's just way too random development. If anything, I expected something simple but effective, like him becoming a traitor or at least be forced to work for/with demons. I look forward to next episode. Norman's reaction at the end was really interesting. |
CrossBlack said: Ok, I can't deal with this bullshit of not killing the monsters, why does it always have to be like that?? It seems like every anime follows the same structure. I'm not kidding when I say there are about 100 idealistic Emma out there, not only that but Ray too? I can tell where this is going but I hope I'm wrong and they surprise me in a good way. Yep, I called the same thing with attack on titan, I knew it wasn't gonna follow that path since episode 1 |
| Emma is crazy Barbara is a bad ass Norman my sweet kid |
| Looks like they probably intend to wrap up the whole story in this season, oh brother this should be fun lol. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. MAL is literally just anime Twitter as its own website lol. |
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