| no, but you shouldn't really have a set/high expectation on it lol unrationality is what usually makes it what it is |
| I think its just being so new to Plot Armor as there are other shows which goes much worse. Appreciate the show for what it has, that is its Science |
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| You're complaining about rationality in anime (which is indeed a serious subject) and then you use Dr. Stone as an example, despite that anime being particularly accurate |
| When a 17 year old nobody has the audacity to label the author as degenerate Meanwhile it's laughable how you look at Dr. Stone. Instead of trying to appreciate the creativity and accuracy of a shounen series that literally embraces it's wackiness and surrealism. You chose to rationalize it to a ridiculous degree. |
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| I'm dumb so every time senku does something I go. "Haha Green super sayin hair made a cotton candy maker to feed all the bad guys so they go join his side." That is how rational I can become with anime. |
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asifsarkar said: OK I get that anime is anime. It is just some imaginative/creative thought of some degenerate author in motion. Asking for reality in it is just dumb. I'm dumb if I want reality in anime. But what about rationality?? Some things that happen in anime doesn't have to be rational or plausible in real life but it should be in its own world/context. Do we see it though?? Nah, logic is thrown out of the window every now and then. For example Dr. Stone looks like a joke to me. There are plenty more that I can bring up. What are your thoughts? Dr stone is great and entertaining either, if anime has good characters then fuck the plot and rationality I don't need them |
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| Aren't u mixing "rational for anime world" with "rational for real world"? That's appears quite irrational to me. there are obviously more realistic anime to meet ur standard of rationality. (For me senku making stuffs are as irrational as lelouch controlling people with geass or alchemy being anything other than misunderstanding? Logic dictates non should be possible) Take a chill pill and watch something else is u don't like dr stone.... |
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| Ok, let's bring Dr Stone to something more realistic Senku awakes and a giraffe kills him. End of the story with 2 episodes. |
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| You haven't payed any attention to Dr. Stone and it shows, Senkuu is unable to build them, he knows how they are made, but he doesn't have the strength to do any of that, that's why all the strength related things are made by strong people, also it's not even impossible for someone to know how a motor works / it's made. And the same goes for most of the things, if you are super dedicated you could learn a lot of things of how to build shit in some years and if you have a great mind or high IQ or whatever then it should be easier to remember things. |
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| Yes you are dumb if you're looking for "realism" in an anime where everyone turns to stone and the MC counts trillions of seconds without a break in the first episode As for the science, it's pretty accurate |
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Armados said: In order for a story to make sense, the writer is supposed to be talented. Most writers are bad, and select few are average at best. Dr.Stone is a prime example of literally handing everything to the MC on a silver plate with zero consequences because they are the MC, and they just bullshit their way out of everything because they are the "smartest thing to ever exist". Its a dumb story that people fall inlove because they think its somewhat special for whatever reason. While the idea behind the story is not necessarily bad, the way its being handled, alongside the existence of Senku and his tendency to just bullshit everything and get any material he wants with ease just make the entire story dumb as a whole. Why does having it easy/silver plate/zero consequences a necessarily bad/dumb thing? It's just making the show easy and a light watch. Does it need to have tension to be good? Can't there be just fun and ridiculousness? |
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| The bad thing is that you used a series that kinda deals with the overpowered MC in a smart way. Senku is the brain because he spent his early years doing that (plus MC plot) however, he can barely do shit by his own. He spent almost 7 months just making the most mundane basement and the first pair of clothes he could. He can do a car because the first season was entirely based on building his territory, including finding the most fitting crafters, collectors of species and minerals, the raw power and brute force, and even Gen, who helped manipulating the people. So, if you could kill every single character in the Senku Village and the dude was still able to bring civilization to the present, yeah, he is bullshit, but the moment he loses someone, a piece fails, and therefore he is dependent of a lot of his friends. |
| Anime and Rationality can't never be together… Idk seems Dr stone pretty rational for me. I mean unlike Lelouch and Levi's actions but you could do pretty much of senku's experiments as long you know what you're doing… and to be fair it might be Impossible for 15 years do all that stuff but don't forget Dr. Stone is a Shonen manga/anime and this series is targeted for Kids or Teenagers to get into sciences |
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spaesu said: Xsaderr said: i think he is saying that Senku shouldnt be able to do those things due to being so young since he shouldnt have that much accumulated knowledge i mean its literally explained in the story that senku is a genius and has like really high iq and shit, while they maybe be rare, people like senku do exist in our world. if senku wasnt as smart as he is the story wouldn't be nearly as intersting either People like Senku doesn't exist in our world though? He's overly exaggerated beyond what any human in real life is capable of. The first episode alone proves that. When he counted each second for 3700 years with pin-point accuracy and was as a result able to deduce how much time had passed exactly. And the science itself is also pretty inaccurate. The general theory and method are most of the time correct. But the actual execution of them are most of the time incorrect. SeekingChaos said: Yes you are dumb if you're looking for "realism" in an anime where everyone turns to stone and the MC counts trillions of seconds without a break in the first episode Huh. Did you even read the post he made? He was asking about rationality within the context of the anime itself. Not realism relative to our world. |
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| Entirely depends on the theme, material, and the premise. There are some titles like Rainbow, Ergo Proxy, and Monster which has rational thought as one of its foundations due to the themes that it portrays, while we get fully absurd pieces like Gurenn Lagann and Kill la Kill wherein you really have to take it for what it is to appreciate it regardless of logical distortions. However, I believe suspension of disbelief should be exercised when dealing with such features. |
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Avicebrons said: SeekingChaos said: Yes you are dumb if you're looking for "realism" in an anime where everyone turns to stone and the MC counts trillions of seconds without a break in the first episode Huh. Did you even read the post he made? He was asking about rationality within the context of the anime itself. Not realism relative to our world. My bad so I sincerely apologize, but I already mentioned that the science was more or less accurate (apparently that's what the OP complains about). I don't understand understand what you meant by "incorrect execution" . If you could elaborate or give an example However I totally understand how the characters are too exaggerated so I can understand where you're coming from if it's about them |
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spaesu said: ok yeah the counting would probably be impossible but it is very possible for a human to be as smart as him. i've met people like him before, one dude i knew was going to university at age 13. Well I don't think going to university at the age of 13 is equivalent to a genius who just so happens to fully understand basically all inventions and is able to count the precise second for 3700 years straight. But I digress. It's really not important to the topic in question. Anime can be exaggerated. But I think OP brings up a good point that it's not too much to ask for rationality within the context of their universe. SeekingChaos said: My bad so I sincerely apologize, but I already mentioned that the science was more or less accurate (apparently that's what the OP complains about). I don't understand understand what you meant by "incorrect execution" . If you could elaborate or give an example However I totally understand how the characters are too exaggerated so I can understand where you're coming from if it's about them Well to bring up a example. While they do have the theory and at times method correct. Like how glass can form from melted sand. The execution is incorrect, because in order to make glass as is presented in the anime you need more time and more materials to do it. |
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| There's been documented cases of people who remembered parts of their past lives. This is still a subject being explored nowadays. It wouldn't be too farfetched to believe he's been a scientist in his previous life. If these theories would eventually be proven to be undeniably true, would that change your view of the show? |
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| Like most animation, anime is also exaggerated, so its kinda expected to be not super realistic. |
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| The thing with Dr. Stone is nothing it's presenting is theoretically implausible but they added convenient conditions to the show that would not be representative of a real life likeliness. But the thing is neither of these things go against rationality as much as probability. When these unlikely factors line up it creates a rational scenario to build off of. Dr. Stone does a fantastic job of this by creating a direct line of progression and reusing already established materials. If you're trying to argue a character being this intelligent is unrealistic that's not an argument against rationality that is simply you irrationally rejecting the premise of the show. |
GamerDLMFeb 18, 2021 7:28 PM
Xsaderr said: spaesu said: i think he is saying that Senku shouldnt be able to do those things due to being so young since he shouldnt have that much accumulated knowledge dr stone is a joke?? idk if ur just dumb or something but doctor stone is very scientifically accurate lmao Op is being stupid at this point.Senku was a child prodigy it clearly shows he was more smarter than any average kid in season 1 |
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K-odiak said: I'm dumb so every time senku does something I go. "Haha Green super sayin hair made a cotton candy maker to feed all the bad guys so they go join his side." That is how rational I can become with anime. This is the same mentality I have every time I see big, fat, voluptous, round, anime tiddies. |
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asifsarkar said: Scordolo said: so what he was a prodigy??Op is being stupid at this point.Senku was a child prodigy it clearly shows he was more smarter than any average kid in season 1 Does that make him capable of making all the things he made. Theoretical knowledge is one thing but applying it......it's tough....yes he tried making these things from his childhood but did he try making a steam engine before.........science is mostly about test and failure.....you don't get there at your first try(at least not every single time) So that means the whole movie of Ironman is stupid.He literally build a suit of armor in a cave with a box of scraps. Senku had enough resources while Tony didn't.So Ironman is a lot more stupider than Dr stone. |
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Conceptualhero said: GamerDLM said: The thing with Dr. Stone is nothing it's presenting is theoretically implausible but they added convenient conditions to the show that would not be representative of a real life likeliness. But the thing is neither of these things go against rationality as much as probability. When these unlikely factors line up it creates a rational scenario to build off of. Dr. Stone does a fantastic job of this by creating a direct line of progression and reusing already established materials. If you're trying to argue a character being this intelligent is unrealistic that's not an argument against rationality that is simply you irrationally rejecting the premise of the show. I would make the argument that finding a master craftsman that can comprehend schematics and create complex designs is one of the most unrealistic part of the anime. It is implausible to find someone in such a primitive village (based on their weapons, their buildings, and their clothing) that are able to help Senku craft components that require intensive research and engineering prowess to even attempt. The people that are living in Ishigami village was so primitive that they were caught in an awe when Senku shown them light. I like Dr. Stone. I find it an enjoyable anime, but in terms of realism, it is at the bottom of a lot of Anime I have watched. I think it's fair to say many characters exhibit traits that would generally be unrealistic but this is more of an argument of rationality. Is it unreasonable to believe a craftsman who spent 50 years building and designing most major structures and equipment couldn't adapt to new techniques? That's debatable and the fact that there's an argument to be made provides the assumption that it has at least a rational if not unrealistic basis. Which is the crux of my argument is a scenario doesn't have to be realistic to be rational and those are two very different metrics where this thread is focused on rationality. The materials they are building and the central premise of the show are built on a rational base, but it uses unrealistic traits such as extreme luck and exaggerated character traits to accelerate the process. Edit: To add to this for another example, fantasy series are inherently unrealistic by their very nature. But there is rational aspects such as world building, established systems, etc. which lead to a believable premise. Magic is an unrealistic system but you can apply rules to magic in a story to make it rational. |
GamerDLMFeb 18, 2021 7:56 PM
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