Attack on Titan
| The parallels are intentional, Gabi was literally based on a genderswapped Eren that the mangaka drew. But IMO it would've worked better if she got more screentime before this point. |
Sir-CJan 31, 2021 7:03 PM
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| Fax bro . Cringy gabi haters don't have brain to comprehend Gabi's greatness . |
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| Uhh...yes and no, Eren and his side were all isolated from the world not knowing anything beyond the wall...suddenly things shifted from casual titans to them suddenly getting destroyed by these new types...then having to find out that there's a whole world of people begging for all of them to die and celebrating their genocide out of fear. Then you got Gabi, never seeing any of these island devils, never being shown proof of what they've done to make them devils, got sucked into propaganda without even questioning it, she's so hell bent on becoming a "hero" that she doesn't think outside of her goal...She's smart enough to be an ace of war, but didn't see why "devils" would retaliate after Reiner and crew did what they did. After all her years alive she didn't think it's odd we been at war with these "devil" and not once have they sent a counter attack until now. Was she justified in Killing Sasha...sorta, the war has started and it's one side against the other. Only thing she an Eren got in common right now is they're kids on wrong sides of war...Eren was innocent, She was raised to murder "innocent" people. |
kwills88Jan 31, 2021 7:16 PM
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| I hate both Gabi and Eren. |
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| TRUE!! The problem is that most people don't want to acknowledge that this story is an exercise of perspective where the audience is thrown in the same position as the characters!! In the same way the marleyans can't see the perspective of the eldians, Gabi haters can't see her perspective either, blaming the other side for what happened insteand of trying to understand the other person's position. Ironic that those who think that at this point, only Marley should take the blame for what is happening, because they atacked first after 100 years of peace, wich is the reason why they deserve to get destroyed by Eren, are getting upset when Gabi takes a rifle and kills Sasha, even though from her position, the scouts attacked her home first.Same thing!! A lot of people were excited the last episode and were cheering for war because they thaught that the bad guys are getting what they deserve and when the story is saying that you should be careful with what you wish for, they get offended. Also, a lot of fans don't make the differene between how much well written is a character vs how much they like that character personally and start to jump on the hate train very easy without seeing beyond their personal feelings, thinking that their point of view is "objectively" right!!  (I do not own this fanart!! All the rights are reserved to the artist!!(I couldn't find him) |
DoruCatanaJan 31, 2021 7:30 PM
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Askelladrules said: shingojira-chan said: greatness??? Sneaking and killing someone from behind doesn't make anyone greatFax bro . Cringy gabi haters don't have brain to comprehend Gabi's greatness . How about blowing up a building with civilians to prove a point? |
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kwills88 said: Uhh...yes and no, Eren and his side were all isolated from the world not knowing anything beyond the wall...suddenly things shifted from casual titans to them suddenly getting destroyed by these new types...then having to find out that there's a whole world of people begging for all of them to die and celebrating their genocide out of fear. Then you got Gabi, never seeing any of these island devils, never being shown proof of what they've done to make them devils, got sucked into propaganda without even questioning it, she's so hell bent on becoming a "hero" that she doesn't think outside of her goal...She's smart enough to be an ace of war, but didn't see why "devils" would retaliate after Reiner and crew did what they did. After all her years alive she didn't think it's odd we been at war with these "devil" and not once have they sent a counter attack until now. Was she justified in Killing Sasha...sorta, the war has started and it's one side against the other. Only thing she an Eren got in common right now is they're kids on wrong sides of war...Eren was innocent, She was raised to murder "innocent" people. uhhh sorry but are u trying to say that if you were a 12 year old child who was brainwashed into believing that your race was the spawn of the devil and that defeating this other group that apparently did something terrible could clear your name and prove that you and the people you love are not terrible, you would have done anything different?? u say "after all her years alive", but she is TWELVE. not even a teenager yet. don't pretend like you'd know exactly what to do in her situation just because you have the advantage of hindsight.  |
| But there is a difference Eren was never taught that there are demons on an island and you have to slaughter them all Eren's rage was limited to killing Titans only |
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Askelladrules said: 1st I never said what eren did is right 2nd:having guts to take on strongest empire is way better than sneaking from behind and killing someone 3rd: personally I like sasha more than gabi. I dont care if you like gabi but calling her great for what she did dosen't make any sense Read my comment above if you thing that I'm a Gaby fanboy!! I would not call Eren's actions "having guts to take on the strongest empire" since I think he's much more in the wrong than Gabi. I'm with the scouts, Hange, Levi, Armin, Jean etc... when it comes to what is right. But I still don't like biased oppinions based on personal feelings that are sold as facts by the fans...or to see someone calling out someone else for being biased with a character despite doing the same thing....just with other character!! |
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| Truth. The only difference is that the viewer knows about Gabi's true circumstances |
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| I see the pain behind Gabi tbh. People's hate for her is just confusing. |
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g4ynaruto said: kwills88 said: Uhh...yes and no, Eren and his side were all isolated from the world not knowing anything beyond the wall...suddenly things shifted from casual titans to them suddenly getting destroyed by these new types...then having to find out that there's a whole world of people begging for all of them to die and celebrating their genocide out of fear. Then you got Gabi, never seeing any of these island devils, never being shown proof of what they've done to make them devils, got sucked into propaganda without even questioning it, she's so hell bent on becoming a "hero" that she doesn't think outside of her goal...She's smart enough to be an ace of war, but didn't see why "devils" would retaliate after Reiner and crew did what they did. After all her years alive she didn't think it's odd we been at war with these "devil" and not once have they sent a counter attack until now. Was she justified in Killing Sasha...sorta, the war has started and it's one side against the other. Only thing she an Eren got in common right now is they're kids on wrong sides of war...Eren was innocent, She was raised to murder "innocent" people. uhhh sorry but are u trying to say that if you were a 12 year old child who was brainwashed into believing that your race was the spawn of the devil and that defeating this other group that apparently did something terrible could clear your name and prove that you and the people you love are not terrible, you would have done anything different?? u say "after all her years alive", but she is TWELVE. not even a teenager yet. don't pretend like you'd know exactly what to do in her situation just because you have the advantage of hindsight. I mean, are we forgetting that Falco exist...they both are fighting for the same cause,., Unfortunately for Gabi, she grew up in a household that was far too deep into the propaganda rabbit hole to question things. She was brainwashed by the government and her family reinforced that. I am sure you read what i said, it's all just pointing out how far gone that girl was and how different she is from Eren, she even said it herself "she didn't see any proof, all knows is that they're the devil and she doesn't need any proof to kill them all" so she isn't even willing to hear reason (granted reason went out the window given the situation). |
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Askelladrules said: DoruCatana said: dude you're entitled to have your own opinion,what I'm questioning is you calling gabi great,i never said you're a gabi fanboy,I just asked killing someone from behind can make one great?sounds like to me that's what you're saying?Read my comment above if you thing that I'm a Gaby fanboy!! I would not call Eren's actions "having guts to take on the strongest empire" since I think he's much more in the wrong than Gabi. I'm with the scouts, Hange, Levi, Armin, Jean etc... when it comes to what is right. But I still don't like biased oppinions based on personal feelings that are sold as facts by the fans...or to see someone calling out someone else for being biased with a character despite doing the same thing....just with other character!! No! She is one of my favourite characters in this series, but just because I read the manga...At this point in the story, she is just a good character, not someone who is morally right...but a very agressive and dense kid with emotional problemes, especially when it comes to empathy and patience. If we are talking about Gabi, my point was just that she shouldn't get so much hate just because most of the fans don't want to see how things are from her point of view and if you hate her, that's fine, everybody is free to be biased...as long as you let others to say what they want, since they just act based on their personal feelings and biased oppinion as well. And I wasn't talking about you specifically, I was talking about the fans in general. |
DoruCatanaJan 31, 2021 9:09 PM
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kwills88 said: g4ynaruto said: uhhh sorry but are u trying to say that if you were a 12 year old child who was brainwashed into believing that your race was the spawn of the devil and that defeating this other group that apparently did something terrible could clear your name and prove that you and the people you love are not terrible, you would have done anything different?? u say "after all her years alive", but she is TWELVE. not even a teenager yet. don't pretend like you'd know exactly what to do in her situation just because you have the advantage of hindsight. I mean, are we forgetting that Falco exist...they both are fighting for the same cause,., Unfortunately for Gabi, she grew up in a household that was far too deep into the propaganda rabbit hole to question things. She was brainwashed by the government and her family reinforced that. I am sure you read what i said, it's all just pointing out how far gone that girl was and how different she is from Eren, she even said it herself "she didn't see any proof, all knows is that they're the devil and she doesn't need any proof to kill them all" so she isn't even willing to hear reason (granted reason went out the window given the situation). fair point, though falco wasn't exactly against fighting paradis either. he just so happened to be the one to experience the conversation between eren and reiner, which clearly heavily influenced his opinion and how hes processing everything going on. |
Askelladrules said: greatness??? Sneaking and killing someone from behind doesn't make anyone great It's ok to hate Gabi now but she has one of the best character development in the manga, thanks to that character development Gabi actually became one of my favorites. |
Askelladrules said: dude I never said I hated her nor did I say she's a bad character,I just asked what qualities make her great...especially after what she did in ep 8. Ah ok then, I assumed you were a hater because there's a lot of Gabi hate comments around here, my bad. |
PRIME_LEGEND said: But there is a difference Eren was never taught that there are demons on an island and you have to slaughter them all Eren's rage was limited to killing Titans only and in the same way, gabi wants to kill "the devils" of paradise, they are the same, eren changed his perspective after coming to liberio and understanding them, it is possible for her to change her perspective too, wait and see, if she still on about that "the devils" thing then yeah hate her cause it just shows that she's a bitch and she is and not willing to understand other's perspective and stuff. I also hate gabi now but only cause she killed sasha and not cause of her character, I mean when someone you like is killed, you will definitely grow to hate the person who did it but don't be blind go that hate. |
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Xander_Cage said: the same way my conclusion about Gabi is not concrete .It's just based on the story and character development so farPRIME_LEGEND said: But there is a difference Eren was never taught that there are demons on an island and you have to slaughter them all Eren's rage was limited to killing Titans only and in the same way, gabi wants to kill "the devils" of paradise, they are the same, eren changed his perspective after coming to liberio and understanding them, it is possible for her to change her perspective too, wait and see, if she still on about that "the devils" thing then yeah hate her cause it just shows that she's a bitch and she is and not willing to understand other's perspective and stuff. I also hate gabi now but only cause she killed sasha and not cause of her character, I mean when someone you like is killed, you will definitely grow to hate the person who did it but don't be blind go that hate. The only thing that made me disliking Gabi is her killing Sasha But let's watch what the upcoming episodes have in store for us |
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shingojira-chan said: gabi is a warrior who watched people die around her almost every day. She had 0 reaction to people falling to the ground beside her. But whenever it’s her friends she loses her mind. She’s extremely selfish. Gabi knew that paradise was their enemy. She knew Marley attacked paradise. She knew what damage and trauma they rained on paradise. Eren was a sheltered boy who just wanted to have a life outside of the walls. Eren had every right. Gabi did not.Fax bro . Cringy gabi haters don't have brain to comprehend Gabi's greatness . |
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g4ynaruto said: zofia,udo,falco they weren't that hell bent on killing the "devils of paradise" as Gabi the others stopped and thought for a minute when gabi was just like "eren bad,me good" I think reiner's family is just of idiots who don't have their own perspective on the world and follow someone else's perspective, also I get it her friends died I would be angry too but I wouldn't say something like "we are different from them" all I'm saying is I know her reasons but the reasons are hypocritical.kwills88 said: Uhh...yes and no, Eren and his side were all isolated from the world not knowing anything beyond the wall...suddenly things shifted from casual titans to them suddenly getting destroyed by these new types...then having to find out that there's a whole world of people begging for all of them to die and celebrating their genocide out of fear. Then you got Gabi, never seeing any of these island devils, never being shown proof of what they've done to make them devils, got sucked into propaganda without even questioning it, she's so hell bent on becoming a "hero" that she doesn't think outside of her goal...She's smart enough to be an ace of war, but didn't see why "devils" would retaliate after Reiner and crew did what they did. After all her years alive she didn't think it's odd we been at war with these "devil" and not once have they sent a counter attack until now. Was she justified in Killing Sasha...sorta, the war has started and it's one side against the other. Only thing she an Eren got in common right now is they're kids on wrong sides of war...Eren was innocent, She was raised to murder "innocent" people. uhhh sorry but are u trying to say that if you were a 12 year old child who was brainwashed into believing that your race was the spawn of the devil and that defeating this other group that apparently did something terrible could clear your name and prove that you and the people you love are not terrible, you would have done anything different?? u say "after all her years alive", but she is TWELVE. not even a teenager yet. don't pretend like you'd know exactly what to do in her situation just because you have the advantage of hindsight. |
| no shit I dislike Gabi just like I dislike Eren |
| Eren was an innocent child who lived peaceful, boring life when Mare attacked with their titans. Situation of Gabi is significantly different. She is not some innocent civilian who is suddenly confronted with brutality of war but a soldier who already saw a war and how Mareans and even her were killing enemies, throw titans at them etc. They were brutal too. And after seeing all that she is shocked and suprised that Mare was attacked. She is just stupid and ignorant. She already was a veteran of Marean wars, soldier who actively participated in combat. She doesn't have the right to play innocent victim here. |
| All this people really argue about who is deserve the most hated, meanwhile Isayama sensei laughing in the darkness |
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| No they're not the same. One of them is a brainwashed psychopath while the other one lost his mother thanks to his enemies and became a psychopath because of that. |
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