So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)
| I would say that the low score is mostly due to the CG as of now, not that I blame other users for rating it a little bit lower than what it actually deserves since it’s definitely not your highest quality good looking CG you can find in anime, in my opinion. And yes, the LN is 100% worth your time but only in the long run. It will definitely get better in the second cour once we’ve established some plot points, but sadly it won’t get to the juiciest parts of the LN this adaptation. It’s a slow burn type of story. You’ll see it for yourself when we will reach the 12th/13th episode once Kumo is easily one of the best isekai LNs out there when it comes to almost everything. It’s a mystery novel full of twists which haven’t been done a lot of times. The MC is one of the best you could ever find in these type of stories. The plot line is developed together with the characters flawlessly and masterfully. So far yes, it’s rushing through some stuff but it’s still a great adaptation. You shouldn’t worry too much about the score, it will get higher and higher as the story progresses (it has already got a +0.05 since the 2nd episode aired). I’m very positive about it since it gets objectively better. I can’t say I’m not worried about the future action scenes (and the dragon one in the third episode which is yet to be aired is the one the worries me the most tbh) but all in all a good adaptation. I recommend you watching this anime nonetheless, and once we’re done with the 24 episodes you should move on to the LNs if a second season doesn’t get announced (which I predict it will be announced since most of the stuff gets somewhat explained after the climax we will most likely be reaching at the end of this season). There’s a reason why this isekai LN is highly regarded by many, trust me |
| Imagine being dumb enough to try and judge an adaptation when only 2 episodes are out. It seems to be doing the LN justice so far, I just hope they don't rush it too fast. CGI is passable. |
私のホバークラフトはウナギでいっぱいです。 |
| I would say it only been 2 episodes you should watch it yourself to see Sorofia said: I'm only watching the anime, never read the novel. I feel is because of the CG. Not because the CG is bad (it's Dorohedoro's quality, not Ajin's), but because MAL's users have being hating CG since it launched in the industry. The spider story is presenting great and she's a good MC. The human's side is promising, with past life reveals and cute supporting characters. Ya MAL Hates CGI with a passion. It very unjustified Hate too. While there are some awful 3D CGI anime around for sure. It very much a artist Platform I like seeing new art styles and other stuff new art styles can keep the media interesting if done well. Side note even most 2D anime are CG these days too. |
| Watch the episodes and decide by yourself. |
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| From the Light Novels, the story is easily a nine, almost a ten in my book, so definitelly it is worth it. About the anime, well, every adaptation has to make compromises, and there are some small compromises on the story already, but they are pretty ok so far. I don't think those would detract from the experience of someone exposed to the story for the fist time. It all depends on how things will tie up in the end. The CGI doesn't bother me. The animation is, in my opinion, the worst aspect of the anime, but it's still pretty ok. From someone that KNOWS the story is worth it, it has zero negative impact, but I'm not surprised if that's not the case for some picky watchers. It probably is the main reason for the lowest ratings, but also because it's too early for the highest ratings from new fans. If the quality of the adaptation keeps up, the raitings will certainly rise while the story progresses. |
RarkisJan 19, 2021 5:13 PM
| Without spoiling anything specific, let me just say that the true story is nothing like what you have seen in the first two episodes. At the rate it is going, you should see the facade of normality crack pretty soon. Even more so in the second cour, but it shouldn't be too many episodes from now before even the blindest anime viewer will start getting some vague idea about where this is going. |
| See thereason this isn't a very good adaptation. not bad but isn't very good either. It's due to the medium: So far the anime try to emulated how the story was told in the novel, spliting the focus between the MC and other characters. The issue here is that something might work in one medium doesn't mean it would translate well into another medium. Something work well in written form doesn't while work in animated form. The manga adaptation is better in that it know to change up thing, focus solely in the MC journey. So far the switching between various characters is jarring and unfocus to say the least. |
ExaltedChampion said: Throwing out most of the early plot like the manga does is a terrible idea. You would throw away some of the greatest advantages of the story. Then people would be much more likely to assume that it is only a dungeon grind.See thereason this isn't a very good adaptation. not bad but isn't very good either. It's due to the medium: So far the anime try to emulated how the story was told in the novel, spliting the focus between the MC and other characters. The issue here is that something might work in one medium doesn't mean it would translate well into another medium. Something work well in written form doesn't while work in animated form. The manga adaptation is better in that it know to change up thing, focus solely in the MC journey. So far the switching between various characters is jarring and unfocus to say the least. |
TheDeedsOfMen said: ExaltedChampion said: Throwing out most of the early plot like the manga does is a terrible idea. You would throw away some of the greatest advantages of the story. Then people would be much more likely to assume that it is only a dungeon grind.See thereason this isn't a very good adaptation. not bad but isn't very good either. It's due to the medium: So far the anime try to emulated how the story was told in the novel, spliting the focus between the MC and other characters. The issue here is that something might work in one medium doesn't mean it would translate well into another medium. Something work well in written form doesn't while work in animated form. The manga adaptation is better in that it know to change up thing, focus solely in the MC journey. So far the switching between various characters is jarring and unfocus to say the least. It not throwing out plot, it's not trying to approach it the same way as the novel. Difference story telling techniques work better for difference medium. For example in novel, readers can read characters inner thought, thus get insight about these characters. That doesn't translated well in live-action or animated. A good adaptation know where to change the source material to fit it in with the medium, not blindly follow the sources material to the teeth. |
ExaltedChampion said: It is literally throwing out plot in the sense that we normally understand the words "plot" and "throw out."TheDeedsOfMen said: Throwing out most of the early plot like the manga does is a terrible idea. You would throw away some of the greatest advantages of the story. Then people would be much more likely to assume that it is only a dungeon grind. It not throwing out plot, it's not trying to approach it the same way as the novel. Difference story telling techniques work better for difference medium. For example in novel, readers can read characters inner thought, thus get insight about these characters. That doesn't translated well in live-action or animated. A good adaptation know where to change the source material to fit it in with the medium, not blindly follow the sources material to the teeth. The adaptation isn't blindly following the source material. The changes so far prove that. But arbitrarily removing the vast majority of the plot would wreck just about any story. That is why the manga was an awful adaptation. I don't even get why following multiple viewpoints would be inherently bad. Jarring? It is just normal storytelling. |
NoahC123 said: Are you only trying to passively describe how some people on MAL think, or is that your stance as well? I am asking to be sure.Even though the CGI here isn't as bad as Berserk 2016, and regardless of how much this takes from That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime the same way Overcautious Hero basically tried to be Konosuba but meta, I gotta ask, how the hell did y'all expect people to respond to this? We're talking about one of the most anticipated anime this season that's NOT a sequel done by the same studio AND director behind the infamous Berserk remake, and you're surprised people are pressing X for doubt and addressing criticism, valid or otherwise? You wouldn't trust a restaurant ever again if you heard from someone the place is fantastic and the food's to die for, and upon walking in, it's overrated at best, would you? The food's OK, but nothing to write home about, the overpriced burger and fries you bought you can get elsewhere for a third of the price, and the "fantastic" atmosphere is actually chaotic, and customer service was subpar? Put it simply, this anime's the burger and fries, and the studio behind this is the overrated restaurant. I'm surprised this community didn't question whether or not studio MAPPA can successfully pull off the highly anticipated final season of Attack on Titan after the glorified tournament arc of a mess that is God of Highschool. Even if this DOES turn out to be a successful anime adaptation, it's not gonna change the fact that it's done by a rather shi**y studio, and Millepensee and director Shin Itagaki are gonna forever be known as the studio and person behind not only one of the worst anime in the last few years, but also an anime used as ammo to why CGI and anime shouldn't mix. |
| I am not one to rate shows unless I have finished them (With 1 or 2 exceptions so far) and if I am allowed to share my opinion as someone who did drop this after one and a half episode - Too me this show has the same issue that Slime has; it thinks it's viewers are stupid. I don't care if it's in the source material or if it was just added in the anime; but having a AI-like voice just infodumping how the character progresses, gets stronger and announce what skills it picks as if it's all natural that "Sure I am in a fantasy world but it needs to be gamey so let's just accept that this AI in thin air just speaks too me" I do not care if it "Gets better" since from the get-go it's already set in stone that the writer(s) does not expect their audience to be able to pay attention or have 2 functioning brain cells. In addition: that the main characters just grows as rapidly as they tend too do is also just ridiculous. Span it over a wider amount of time if nothing else - Heck, this season alone has the anime Mushoku Tensei which does everything right which Spider does wrong. It shows us yearlong processes of learning and despite that the main character has their old memories; it's night and day to which grade they use it. Mushoku Tensei is also clearly written by someone who thinks their audience can pick up on some details without having it be spoonfed. I also feel like this show misses so hard with the line it tries to walk with it's tone; much like slime. When you think your audience is this unintelligent; just go full Bofuri and embrace the absolute stupid and pack some functional comedy ontop of it. Edit: I feel like I need to mention this or the point will go RIGHT above peoples heads. I know Bofuri is not an Isekai but it follows the same gimmick. |
RexxgrimJan 20, 2021 10:45 AM
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Rexxgrim said: The story explicitly addresses how suspicious the game elements are, and the elements are also very relevant for the plot overall. Not in the first two episodes, obviously, but not everything has to be pointed out immediately.I am not one to rate shows unless I have finished them (With 1 or 2 exceptions so far) and if I am allowed to share my opinion as someone who did drop this after one and a half episode - Too me this show has the same issue that Slime has; it thinks it's viewers are stupid. I don't care if it's in the source material or if it was just added in the anime; but having a AI-like voice just infodumping how the character progresses, gets stronger and announce what skills it picks as if it's all natural that "Sure I am in a fantasy world but it needs to be gamey so let's just accept that this AI in thin air just speaks too me" I do not care if it "Gets better" since from the get-go it's already set in stone that the writer(s) does not expect their audience to be able to pay attention or have 2 functioning brain cells. Rexxgrim said: You are assuming that it is the true tone of the series.I also feel like this show misses so hard with the line it tries to walk with it's tone; much like slime. When you think your audience is this unintelligent; just go full Bofuri and embrace the absolute stupid and pack some functional comedy ontop of it. The series doesn't only "get better" in general. It also gets better in the exact areas you are criticizing. To put it bluntly, you are getting trolled by the author. NoahC123 said: So let me get this straight. Your stance is that the show is bad because of something that the studio and the director did earlier. That is a blatant ad hominem right there. (And, as noted, they did not even do the CGI in either case.) There is no need for guesswork; the best evidence for whether this show is good is to keep watching.TheDeedsOfMen said: Are you only trying to passively describe how some people on MAL think, or is that your stance as well? I am asking to be sure. That would be my stance with this show and people's response on the spider isekai. I can't speak for everybody, but I'd be lying if I didn't think there's at least a few who likely look at this the way I described it, if not similar. Sorry if I came off the wrong way. Saying that it closely resembles Slime is simply a result of knowing nothing about the story. |
TheDeedsOfMenJan 20, 2021 11:25 AM
NoahC123 said: Look, I get the argument about relying on past track records, but the name of the studio is not a sufficient reason to shoot a show down. To determine whether this is good or bad, it is best to simply keep watching for a while. So I can blame them. Not maliciously, but I can blame them, sure. TheDeedsOfMen said: The story explicitly addresses how suspicious the game elements are, and the elements are also very relevant for the plot overall. Not in the first two episodes, obviously, but not everything has to be pointed out immediately. You are assuming that it is the true tone of the series. The series doesn't only "get better" in general. It also gets better in the exact areas you are criticizing. To put it bluntly, you are getting trolled by the author. So let me get this straight. Your stance is that the show is bad because of something that the studio and the director did earlier. That is a blatant ad hominem right there. (And, as noted, they did not even do the CGI in either case.) There is no need for guesswork; the best evidence for whether this show is good is to keep watching. Saying that it closely resembles Slime is simply a result of knowing nothing about the story. OK, TBF, the CGI bit, that's my mistake. Sorry for the misinformation there. As far as my stance, I'm not saying the show's gonna be bad because of what the studio and director did earlier, that's not the problem. Matter of fact, I want this to succeed, moreso than most I'm afraid; MY problem is my being concerned of how this'll turn out BECAUSE it's handled by a studio and director, both with a poor track record, and more importantly, whether or not they learned their lesson from Berserk 2016. As far as my ACTUAL stance, honestly, I'm neutral on this, at least for the time being. I understand what both sides are saying and how they feel. Regardless of your stance in this, or mine, or anyone else's, the one thing you can't deny, is, like I said, Millepensee and Itagaki will forever be associated with the Berserk remake and will be remembered as such, and not in a good way. Anything they put out from here on out will be viewed the same way gamers are gonna be looking at CD PROJEKT RED after Cyberpunk 2077 moving forward; in other words, people are gonna be skeptical and pressing X for Doubt. So like I said, can you BLAME people for questioning whether this'll turn out successfully or anyone learning about this show asking if it's worth their time? And even if this IS a "blantant ad hominem", I hate to break it to you, but you're gonna have a ton of people looking at this a lot differently than I, some not as forgiving as I am, and even less as understanding. You wouldn't want to be partners with a kid cthat you KNOW he's just gonna be dicking around the whole time during a project you'd have to present to the whole class, much less trust him to do anything aside from being that kid who sits and does nothing and gets credit for doing jack. You'd avoid his ass! Based on the LN and obvious time limitations, the adaptation has been going well so far. Maybe that will change later. Now, if what we are shown in the first two episodes was all the series has to offer, I wouldn't praise this series either, but it is not. It is all going "according to keikaku," as they say. So I ask people to be patient. This series has a plan. |
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