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Jan 17, 2021 4:10 PM
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This is maybe the second anime studio i have hated in my life and that say lot . I’m sorry but mappa shouldn't be defended.

like said in other forum If you need more time then just delay it, if you can’t delay, then try to dedicate more staff and resources to this episode, to make up for the lack of time. oh wait, you probably can’t do that, because MAPPA is working on like 100 different things at the same time right now, so maybe you should focus more on quality versus quantity, and if you know you can’t provide the expected quality, maybe you shouldn’t take on a giant project like AoT in the first place. I am so disappointed.


Would you have any problem to wait as long as everything is 2d or have better GCI?
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Jan 17, 2021 4:12 PM
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I agree Mappa is to blame for this quality they decided to take it on they knew the time frame.
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David Productions or Ufotable would have been PERFECT.
Shiz....even BONES would have done an amazing job

Studio Wit...perhaps I've been too harsh on you.
I'm soo sorry.
I don't hate the other aspects of the episode. Especially when it focuses on the people. Animation is nice. I did hate the Ost used last episode and I thought that was bad....

This episode was hot garbage. The fights scenes killed it.

Eren gobbled up Willy like Tom eats Jerry.
If went from AoT to a kids cartoon during those titan fight moments.

The war hammer titans transformation scene was cool.

The way it manifested weapons also was cool.
Apart from that, everything else was terribad.

The way studio clown has been doing Black Clover....I think even they could have done a better job. Action scene wise at least.

Again, I have no problem with the people shots.

Titan fights killed the episode for me..
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BenRyan said:
This is maybe the second anime studio i have hated in my life and that say lot . I’m sorry but mappa shouldn't be defended.

like said in other forum If you need more time then just delay it, if you can’t delay, then try to dedicate more staff and resources to this episode, to make up for the lack of time. oh wait, you probably can’t do that, because MAPPA is working on like 100 different things at the same time right now, so maybe you should focus more on quality versus quantity, and if you know you can’t provide the expected quality, maybe you shouldn’t take on a giant project like AoT in the first place. I am so disappointed.


Would you have any problem to wait as long as everything is 2d or have better GCI?


You have hated? Damn you in this deep, mate.

It’s not even bad. Characters look great. Attack Titan is a little lacking on some shots. The only big issue is the use of music for dramatic effect. But it’s not bad, mate. It’s very good.
Jan 17, 2021 4:22 PM
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BenRyan said:
This is maybe the second anime studio i have hated in my life and that say lot . I’m sorry but mappa shouldn't be defended.

like said in other forum If you need more time then just delay it, if you can’t delay, then try to dedicate more staff and resources to this episode, to make up for the lack of time. oh wait, you probably can’t do that, because MAPPA is working on like 100 different things at the same time right now, so maybe you should focus more on quality versus quantity, and if you know you can’t provide the expected quality, maybe you shouldn’t take on a giant project like AoT in the first place. I am so disappointed.


Would you have any problem to wait as long as everything is 2d or have better GCI?


like what Wit Do to season 3?

wit made season 3 meanwhile they working on Kabaneri and Vinlan saga.

they put all of their resources to Kabaneri movie.
and the result you can see weird animation on season 3.
go see "Frieda vs Grisha"
or Reiner vs eren pt2


and in season 3 pt2 they have vinlan saga
Jan 17, 2021 4:23 PM
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AForgottenSoul said:
I agree Mappa is to blame for this quality they decided to take it on they knew the time frame.


I don't understand why they jump quick so much to defend a company as if their life depends on it lol like CDPR fanboys, cyberpunk game is shit.
Jan 17, 2021 4:24 PM
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In the end it's all about money, the production commitee is the one to put the blame. But, you know, if we're talking about moneys it's pretty inevitable, no?

So, i'm fully understand that and proceed to face the truth, overall my enjoyment is still there though.
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BenRyan said:
AForgottenSoul said:
I agree Mappa is to blame for this quality they decided to take it on they knew the time frame.


I don't understand why they jump quick so much to defend a company as if their life depends on it lol like CDPR fanboys, cyberpunk game is shit.


i dont understand too why they blame someone hard work just because small thing
Jan 17, 2021 4:31 PM
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They'll redo it, right?
We'll get AoT: BROTHERHOOD, right?


lol
Jan 17, 2021 4:32 PM

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AForgottenSoul said:
I agree Mappa is to blame for this quality they decided to take it on they knew the time frame.
Completely agree. The anime wasn't forced upon them, they chose to do it within the limited time frame and because of that we were given a visual mess.
Jan 17, 2021 4:35 PM
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Don’t really hate it or dislike it, you people are just too deep with it.
Jan 17, 2021 4:35 PM
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Stop being so ungrateful ffs
Jan 17, 2021 4:47 PM

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Stop being so ungrateful ffs
I don't know why we should be grateful that one of the most popular anime/manga of all time received another season, it would've happened eventually. The problem is that due to mismanagement, the quality of the adaptation has declined significantly and many people find it disappointing.
Jan 17, 2021 4:49 PM
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That’s because studio mappa has two other projects in the works at the same time so they had to out source the cgi. Just be glad they took on the final season in the first place otherwise we wouldn’t of got one
Jan 17, 2021 4:58 PM

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JustXenno said:
That’s because studio mappa has two other projects in the works at the same time so they had to out source the cgi.

Knowing about the context behind the final season doesn't suddenly improve the quality of the product. It is what it is I guess, but the sakuga in particular looks a lot worse.
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Just be glad they took on the final season in the first place otherwise we wouldn’t of got one

SNK is extremely popular, we would've definitely gotten another season but probably at a much later point.
Jan 17, 2021 5:08 PM

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Just read the manga then dude
Jan 17, 2021 5:09 PM

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NO ONE could have provided the "expected quality" given the project being offered.

And no, the higher ups wouldn't have waited either. They would've gone with anyone who raised their hands first.
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Jan 17, 2021 5:13 PM
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even with S3 Part2 (which was amazing anyway) Wit Studio set the bar so high for MAPPA
#kyoanistrong
Jan 17, 2021 5:18 PM
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You are sooooooo uneducated on the topic and you still proceed on voicing your unthoughtful opinion.
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JustXenno said:
Stop being so ungrateful ffs


"Grateful". Oh no, a piece of TV show came out and people don't like animated pixels :((((((. Stop it. Just stop.
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I still don't get why Wit studio didn't finish this considering how big AOT is and how much more appreciation for it they would get later on. You would think that would warrant more attention then the other things they have planned but fuck it I guess not huh. Maybe they're struggling with the pandemic but even then just delay it...

Man.. this episode is giving me ptsd from Overlord season 3 and seven deadly sins both of which could have been great if they delayed it....

To answer the title I'm disappointed in Mappa for not taking this seriously. If they put more effort this could have been big for them. I dislike Wit studio though. Finish what you started, if not give it to someone you know who can properly.
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Necromia said:
I still don't get why Wit studio didn't finish this considering how big AOT is and how much more appreciation for it they would get later on. You would think that would warrant more attention then the other things they have planned but fuck it I guess not huh. Maybe they're struggling with the pandemic but even then just delay it...

Man.. this episode is giving me ptsd from Overlord season 3 and seven deadly sins both of which could have been great if they delayed it....

To answer the title I'm disappointed in Mappa for not taking this seriously. If they put more effort this could have been big for them. I dislike Wit studio though. Finish what you started, if not give it to someone you know who can properly.



Agree and it's really is the Cybercuck 2077 of anime, from the graphical glitches, false-advertising trailers to product.
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You are sooooooo uneducated on the topic and you still proceed on voicing your unthoughtful opinion.


It's a disgusting troll, Idk why people feed it.
Jan 17, 2021 7:13 PM

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Imagine hating on a studio that literally saved the series. The production company and the higher ups already decided AOT was gonna get a final season this year. MAPPA were offered to take the role, they could have easily declined it yes, but then more subpar studios below MAPPA would have raised their hands and taken on the project with the same time frame given to MAPPA. Animation studios do not get to decide on the timeframe or deadline they are given.

If MAPPA did not take it on, this final season would have wound up a complete trainwreck. The 3DCGI used is noticable obviously, but the quality of the CGI itself is still amazing either way. MAPPA took an L to save this series even with all the workload they have this year, and you sit here complaining and saying you hate on these underpaid, overworked animators that dedicate their lives and effort to offer us 24 minutes of entertainment each week.


all studios refused but mappa,they did not "save" it . what are u even smoking

if they refused the commite would have been FORCED to give wit more time

"saved the series" yeah im really enjoying CGI humans and cgi titans. fuck off with that BS
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even with S3 Part2 (which was amazing anyway) Wit Studio set the bar so high for MAPPA


They could have declined, MAPPA is working on like 100 different things at the same time.

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Here is a small suggestion to all the people who have been complaining about it
Just don't watch it and go read the manga
Or wait for another decade where they "hopefully" remake it and maybe you will like it.
Well I guess you all won't
Cuz it probably won't be wit
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I still don't get why Wit studio didn't finish this considering how big AOT is and how much more appreciation for it they would get later on. You would think that would warrant more attention then the other things they have planned but fuck it I guess not huh. Maybe they're struggling with the pandemic but even then just delay it...

Man.. this episode is giving me ptsd from Overlord season 3 and seven deadly sins both of which could have been great if they delayed it....

To answer the title I'm disappointed in Mappa for not taking this seriously. If they put more effort this could have been big for them. I dislike Wit studio though. Finish what you started, if not give it to someone you know who can properly.


Wit didn't do s4 because it put way too much pressure on their staff, they were struggling to meet deadlines so they decided to pass it on to another studio because of how hard of a project it was on the staff.
Also the animators had a very small time window to animate s4, they aren't slacking lmao they're busting their ass off, if anything blame the higher ups in the studio that took on a project when they didn't have enough time to complete it, animators aren't at fault here.
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Necromia said:
I still don't get why Wit studio didn't finish this considering how big AOT is and how much more appreciation for it they would get later on. You would think that would warrant more attention then the other things they have planned but fuck it I guess not huh. Maybe they're struggling with the pandemic but even then just delay it...

Man.. this episode is giving me ptsd from Overlord season 3 and seven deadly sins both of which could have been great if they delayed it....

To answer the title I'm disappointed in Mappa for not taking this seriously. If they put more effort this could have been big for them. I dislike Wit studio though. Finish what you started, if not give it to someone you know who can properly.


Wit didn't do s4 because it put way too much pressure on their staff, they were struggling to meet deadlines so they decided to pass it on to another studio because of how hard of a project it was on the staff.
Also the animators had a very small time window to animate s4, they aren't slacking lmao they're busting their ass off, if anything blame the higher ups in the studio that took on a project when they didn't have enough time to complete it, animators aren't at fault here.


Then delaying it would have been the best course of action. Yea I should have been more specific. I'm not blaming the animators just the person who decided to release it in the state it was in.
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Here is a small suggestion to all the people who have been complaining about it
Just don't watch it and go read the manga
Or wait for another decade where they "hopefully" remake it and maybe you will like it.
Well I guess you all won't
Cuz it probably won't be wit


Some like anime better than reading black and white?

oh my god the attack titan looks so bad lol is this ps2 game




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Hate can only come out of broken love. This is how I feel about the way they treated the original 1970's Star Wars trilogy. It's easier and healthier to just ignore it. Nothing good will come out of all your hatred.
Jan 17, 2021 8:20 PM
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Oh come on haters, why is the rating still 9.15???

Where are your 1/10 score?????
Jan 17, 2021 8:22 PM

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The cgi is actually god tier in animation,NEEDZ MOAR 2D
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animate it yourself faggot

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Jan 17, 2021 8:26 PM

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Electrolytful said:

MAPPA took an L to save this series even with all the workload they have this year, and you sit here complaining and saying you hate on these underpaid, overworked animators that dedicate their lives and effort to offer us 24 minutes of entertainment each week.

This isn't some charity that we should be grateful with whatever we get. They're selling a product - an animated TV show and people pay money to watch it, buy the blu-ray and merchandise.

The bad management practices and exploitation of animators isn't going to change my opinion, nor should it. That should be kept separate from one's judgement of the show.
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Electrolytful said:

MAPPA took an L to save this series even with all the workload they have this year, and you sit here complaining and saying you hate on these underpaid, overworked animators that dedicate their lives and effort to offer us 24 minutes of entertainment each week.

This isn't some charity that we should be grateful with whatever we get. They're selling a product - an animated TV show and people pay money to watch it, buy the blu-ray and merchandise.

The bad management practices and exploitation of animators isn't going to change my opinion, nor should it. That should be kept separate from one's judgement of the show.


The question is, are you bought them? TV broadcasting is just part of promoting, the real deal is when you bought the Blu-Ray and you felt dissapointed with the product then this logic works. There's must be an agreement from sellers and buyers and that requires a contact.
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I'm as a CloverWorks fan this season just having a popcorn while watching the shitstorm of everyone hating on MAPPA keep using CGI on titan
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xLoop said:
Electrolytful said:

MAPPA took an L to save this series even with all the workload they have this year, and you sit here complaining and saying you hate on these underpaid, overworked animators that dedicate their lives and effort to offer us 24 minutes of entertainment each week.

This isn't some charity that we should be grateful with whatever we get. They're selling a product - an animated TV show and people pay money to watch it, buy the blu-ray and merchandise.

The bad management practices and exploitation of animators isn't going to change my opinion, nor should it. That should be kept separate from one's judgement of the show.

Exactly, someone with common sense in this forum. I'm tired of the wave of Mappa drones that suddenly appeared and made accounts here over the last 2-3 months just to spread the word of their god Mappa over and over.
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So you were all fine with the final season never being animated? Ungrateful and biased I win bye bye
Jan 17, 2021 9:26 PM
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To studio as in business no but the staff should be defended
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They'll redo it, right?
We'll get AoT: BROTHERHOOD, right?


lol


They won't redo it if they couldnt do it now while they where making the epiosdes before it aired what makes you think they will be able to redo it in only a few months before the Blu-ray/dvd/digital releases come out

and that tweet is to a staff member that didn't even work on the epiosde
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BenRyan said:
This is maybe the second anime studio i have hated in my life and that say lot . I’m sorry but mappa shouldn't be defended.

like said in other forum If you need more time then just delay it, if you can’t delay, then try to dedicate more staff and resources to this episode, to make up for the lack of time. oh wait, you probably can’t do that, because MAPPA is working on like 100 different things at the same time right now, so maybe you should focus more on quality versus quantity, and if you know you can’t provide the expected quality, maybe you shouldn’t take on a giant project like AoT in the first place. I am so disappointed.


Would you have any problem to wait as long as everything is 2d or have better GCI?


You know what? People like you need to stop bitching about MAPPA. They were forced by the committee to start airing the final season right before the end of 2020. They're doing the best they can and it's been fantastic so far besides some CGI. It could've been worse, but it's not.

Some of y'all really need to contemplate the environment that the animators are put into currently. Some of you even went on threatening the people working on this season. It's pathetic. Learn to keep some of your stupid opinions to yourself.
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People on twitter are unironically saying that mappa is better than wit
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I still don't get why Wit studio didn't finish this considering how big AOT is and how much more appreciation for it they would get later on. You would think that would warrant more attention then the other things they have planned but fuck it I guess not huh. Maybe they're struggling with the pandemic but even then just delay it...

Man.. this episode is giving me ptsd from Overlord season 3 and seven deadly sins both of which could have been great if they delayed it....

To answer the title I'm disappointed in Mappa for not taking this seriously. If they put more effort this could have been big for them. I dislike Wit studio though. Finish what you started, if not give it to someone you know who can properly.


Wit didn't do it anymore becouse the shedule, they have always had problems with the series production and shedule Wise,

No studio would have been able to delay it ,every other stuido rejected it due to the timeframe.

Kodansha and who ever decides the shedule etc only have one thing they want ,

Money more specifically manga Money they wanted the season to come out before rh manga finshed to boost sales , and it will boost sales just making it even worse
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Holy fuck I’ve never seen such huge overreactions in my life, it looks great outside of the CG Titans, and only a few of them look wonky. The Warhammer, Jaw, and Cart looked really good for example. Some of you obviously have zero fucking idea why MAPPA is doing the final season and why it’s releasing in the timeframe it is and it’s pretty damn obvious.

It’s not MAPPA’s fault the production was rushed, and you’d know that if you actually bothered to look into the situation. Dozens of other studios declined the project for 2020, (Yes, that includes Ufotable and Bones and other large studios) but the production committee wanted it to come out in the Winter 2020 season. So delaying it literally wasn’t an option for MAPPA. That’s the decision of the production committee. MAPPA is doing the best they can with a shit schedule, and they’re doing a damn fine job of it. If you cucks want to blame someone for an adaptation that wasn’t 100% perfect, blame the production committee. You guys are probably the people sending death threats to MAPPA staff. Literal cancers on this fanbase. If you really wanted to delay the whole final season to fall 2021 over a little CG, that’s just you guys. Not most of us. In my eyes, we got lucky MAPPA accepted and some tiny studio who didn’t give a shit got it.

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1st of all, obviously, if you pirate, you do not have any right to complain.
Anyway, you guys are being spoiled af.
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This is maybe the second anime studio i have hated in my life and that say lot . I’m sorry but mappa shouldn't be defended.

like said in other forum If you need more time then just delay it, if you can’t delay, then try to dedicate more staff and resources to this episode, to make up for the lack of time. oh wait, you probably can’t do that, because MAPPA is working on like 100 different things at the same time right now, so maybe you should focus more on quality versus quantity, and if you know you can’t provide the expected quality, maybe you shouldn’t take on a giant project like AoT in the first place. I am so disappointed.


Would you have any problem to wait as long as everything is 2d or have better GCI?


There's so many factors at play, and MAPPA as a whole studio should not be blamed. There's so many people working at MAPPA that working on alot of anime at once isn't even a problem. The problem was the time they had to make the anime, the higher ups wanted speed not quality so they had a deadline. The staff that works on Jujutsu Kaisen probably had more time which shows in how the shot composition is and animation is on the show.

AOT isn't the best but it sure as hell isn't shit either. They don't give a shit you're disappointed, i think they're more worried about how much sleep their gonna get after working on these episodes. You're so ignorant to how this industry works.


Sadly, most anime watchers aren't. It's becoming a concern when they go out of their way to say shit when they haven't even done the basic research.




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Lmao y’all rlly let some cgi issues blind you? A lot of aspects were very well done. Including the odm scenes, which were literal sakuga. This one ep was better than most of s3 p2.
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Imagine being this mad over anime.

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You are right bro 100% accurate but giving death threats to staff is bad.
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Tf is this MAPPA hate jerkfest lmao. If MAPPA didnt pick it up, no one would. They were the only studio that offered to take it, so wtf are you on about bro
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Tf is this MAPPA hate jerkfest lmao. If MAPPA didnt pick it up, no one would. They were the only studio that offered to take it, so wtf are you on about bro


People always looking to bitch about something lmfao. If it's not 100% like they envisioned it, it's bad lol
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