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Oct 11, 2020 12:22 PM
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When I initially saw the trailer/poster, I was kinda disgusted by the greasy look of all the characters. I’ve finally got round to watching the first ep and you know what, it isn’t so bad! I kinda like it tbh

Of course nothing can beat the original, but at the same time, I feel more welcoming to this new art style now.

Anyone else changed their mind about the art?
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Oct 11, 2020 12:26 PM
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I proudly vote for "I disliked it first and still dislike it"
Oct 11, 2020 12:38 PM
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The art of the older anime is ugly I like this one's art so much more.
Oct 11, 2020 1:00 PM
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The old artstyle took some getting used to for me, and I fully expected the case to be the same this time, but I had a much easier time adjusting to it. I feel its appropriately bubbly and cute for contrast. Although I was a bit worried how well they would do the creepier moments, after the first episode I felt convinced they could pull it off.
Oct 11, 2020 1:28 PM
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"The new art style isn’t so bad"

This thread's title should be: Higurashi's old art style sucks ass but new art style is a gift from gods
Oct 11, 2020 1:28 PM
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I do strongly dislike the new art style overall. But one aspect that even I, a huge Gou detractor, can appreciate is the enhanced color depth present throughout the entirety of the show. I'm talking about the beautifully lush color palette, the contrast of hues, and the range of various shades in each and every frame. While this often detracts from the atmosphere in many scenes (as your eyes are constantly assaulted by rainbows when they should not be) it still looks very pleasant and provides many instances that by comparison possess more detail than my precious Deen masterpiece.

Deen's character artstyles and palette choice were much more effective from a tonal standpoint, however, since they suited the environment and gravity of the impactful storytelling far better. I also subjectively preferred the body proportions of the characters in Deen's version over Gou. In Gou the characters look very generic and bland; like they could have easily been stand ins from any other random anime. Deen gave the girls a distinctive ghostly, malnourished aesthetic, which I absolutely LOVED. It made them look eerie and ghoulish as their spindly limbs carried their massive heads to and fro. Even though the girls were oftentimes placed in sexually provocative clothing and scenarios, their body proportions somehow diminished the feeling of overt ecchi pandering. In Gou, due to all the girls apparently having thick thighs and plump asses, it makes those gratuitous camera angles I mentioned in another thread all the more distasteful. One small detail I did like quite alot about the girls' redesigns, though, is the little color gradient they now have on their hair. It's such a minor touch, but it makes a world of difference for me somehow.

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Oct 11, 2020 1:34 PM
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It looked so much like Grisaia I was surprised 8bit wasn't the studio behind it :P
Oct 11, 2020 1:50 PM
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Short_Circut said:
It looked so much like Grisaia I was surprised 8bit wasn't the studio behind it :P


It's the chrara design from SHAFT monogatari and the same person that work on this Higurashi Gou.
The mouth design gave it away.
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Oct 11, 2020 1:55 PM
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Kse3a5 said:
"The new art style isn’t so bad"

This thread's title should be: Higurashi's old art style sucks ass but new art style is a gift from gods

Lmao.
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Oct 11, 2020 2:47 PM

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The OG S1 art was mind torture but I kinda liked the stuff in Kai and afterwards.
Oct 11, 2020 2:48 PM

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I considered the art to be good from the start. It pretty much looks like another Monogatari season.
Oct 11, 2020 2:55 PM

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rohan121 said:
It pretty much looks like another Monogatari season.

And that's the most disappointing.
Oct 11, 2020 3:08 PM

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No, I disliked it first and still dislike it.

Now that I know this is another sequel installment to the Higurashi series I was happy to catch up with the first two episodes and plan to watch every minute of the rest.

But to me the art style and so far the direction as well are both vastly inferior to the earlier seasons and when people compare this art positively with seasons one and two of Higurashi I do not know what they are talking about and literally could not disagree more.

Everything about the earlier art style was lovely, instantaneously iconic, familiar, and warm, drawing you into its time and place perfectly, whereas this just looks cheap, overly bright and shiny, and slapped together. The original made me feel from quite literally episode one that these are places and people I wanted to know and experience. The current one is something I would be unlikely to give the time of day if it wasn't Higurashi....
Oct 11, 2020 4:02 PM

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WatchTillTandava said:
No, I disliked it first and still dislike it.
But to me the art style and so far the direction as well are both vastly inferior to the earlier seasons and when people compare this art positively with seasons one and two of Higurashi I do not know what they are talking about and literally could not disagree more.

Everything about the earlier art style was lovely, instantaneously iconic, familiar, and warm, drawing you into its time and place perfectly, whereas this just looks cheap, overly bright and shiny, and slapped together.

You know, everyone and their mom is going to claim the only reason you feel that way is due to "nostalgia". So, inb4 that shitstorm takes off, lol.

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Oct 11, 2020 4:20 PM

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You know, everyone and their mom is going to claim the only reason you feel that way is due to "nostalgia". So, inb4 that shitstorm takes off, lol.


That would be the predictable response from some folks as it is so oft thrown around, but in my case their argument would be invalidated out of the gate because:

1.) Not only did I not watch the anime when it premiered in 2006 - 2007, but neither did I in the years immediately thereafter, as I didn't start watching anime series at all until 2016

2.) I didn't start watching anime series with some regularity effectively back to back until last year, 2019

3.) I neither watched nor ever even heard of Higurashi until 2019

But I think the types prone to cavalierly tossing that allegation about tend to subscribe to the school of thought that there is only one general trend of thinking, everyone must fall in line with it and value the same things, and everyone who doesn't must be stupid or ignorant or have an illegitimate reason which automatically delegitimizes their stance, like being a perceived out-of-touch antiquated relic. That's why they speak of older series and anyone who might appreciate or prefer them for any reason with a level of palpable and pronounced disdain.
Oct 11, 2020 4:44 PM

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WatchTillTandava said:
I neither watched nor ever even heard of Higurashi until 2019

Uh-oh, you just gave those very same people a whole new kind of ammunition to use against you. xD

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But I think the types prone to cavalierly tossing that allegation about tend to subscribe to the school of thought that there is only one general trend of thinking, everyone must fall in line with it and value the same things, and everyone who doesn't must be stupid or ignorant or have an illegitimate reason which automatically delegitimizes their stance, like being a perceived out-of-touch antiquated relic. That's why they speak of older series and anyone who might appreciate or prefer them for any reason with a level of palpable and pronounced disdain.

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Oct 11, 2020 6:03 PM
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I disliked it at first but it’s sort of grown on me. There’s still some stuff I don’t like though, like the mouths seem weird to me. I don’t think the originals art was that great either though. Higurashi is definitely no Kyoto animation joint. It’s the story that really keeps me going.
Oct 12, 2020 12:40 AM
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As long as it isn't horrible Overlord 3 or Berserk CGI, I'm not picky.

Anime fans spend way too much time on the art style of anime.
Oct 12, 2020 12:45 AM

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As someone who just recently finished the old show, I have to say the new art is definitely better. Though the old OVAs had some nice art as well.
Oct 12, 2020 5:04 AM

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YokaSol said:
As long as it isn't horrible Overlord 3 or Berserk CGI, I'm not picky.

Anime fans spend way too much time on the art style of anime.

Idk, I feel like in a visual medium such as anime, the art style can easily become a point of contention if it's noticeably different/bad (or even adoration if its particularly good). Same thing with videogames and graphical quality. Kinda sticks out like a sore thumb if the visuals aren't up to snuff. It can easily hamper one's enjoyment to be subjected to such abhorrent visuals as Xenoblade 2 on the Switch's portable mode, for instance. Even if the gameplay is compelling, it constantly feels like a compromise; like there's clearly a superior experience you could potentially be having whilst consuming the media in question, but the devs/animators were just a bit too lazy, or rushed, or constrained by technical limitations to provide it.

Obviously aspects of games that do not influence the gameplay are entirely superficial. Likewise, the main reason you're consuming an anime is to enjoy it's narrative elements and characters, not the "window dressing". But there's a reason we are not still dabbling in N64-tier graphics in games even though that would "get the job done". A visual medium should in fact strive to captivate the viewer with its visuals. Not to such a degree it sacrifices the more important parts of its composition, but it should still partition a sizable enough effort to prevent viewers/players from dismissing it as a lazily executed product.

I personally believe that if Studio Deen had polished their rough art style and animation whilst keeping every character on-model and retaining plenty of the wildly expressive faces they are known for, there would be a significantly lesser degree of hatred toward it even if the Sparknotes-esque narrative structure and over-emphasis on gore remained exactly the same. Even though I love Deen's adaptation, it admittedly does look very rough in places. Iirc, Deen was a fairly low-budget studio, and their work was never anything particularly amazing. If I'm being honest, I think the reason the art style appealed to me so much had a lot more to do with Sakai Kyuuta's direct influence over the character design, rather than Deen's own animation chops. As soon as I heard they were changing the lead character designer for this new series, I was skeptical from the get go. What shocks me is that Watanabe's character art looks really freakin' good in the Monogatari anime adaptations, but in Higurashi Gou it just completely falls flat.
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Oct 12, 2020 5:32 AM

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I don't dislike the new artstyle at all. But as you said, the original artstyle is a lot more befitting to the show.
Oct 12, 2020 5:33 AM

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I am slowly getting used to it after watching it but I am no 100% sure that I prefer this art style
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Oct 12, 2020 7:32 AM

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Higurashi is definitely no Kyoto animation joint. It’s the story that really keeps me going.

Imagine if Higurashi got animated by KyoAni xD
Not sure how'd it fit, but damn it would be interesting.

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Oct 12, 2020 9:01 AM

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Hulio said:

Imagine if Higurashi got animated by KyoAni xD
Not sure how'd it fit, but damn it would be interesting.

I'd personally love a Madhouse, Shaft, or ufotable rendition of the VN's storyline. Why is it that Higurashi (a fairly popular IP in Japan) gets saddled with these dogshit-tier studios? Are the higher ups simply not willing to invest a little more cash for a top tier animation studio? Deen & Passione aren't exactly renowned for their quality work, so why contact them?
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Oct 12, 2020 9:24 AM

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K_Rool_Addict said:
I'd personally love a Madhouse, Shaft, or ufotable rendition of the VN's storyline. Why is it that Higurashi (a fairly popular IP in Japan) gets saddled with these dogshit-tier studios? Are the higher ups simply not willing to invest a little more cash for a top tier animation studio? Deen & Passione aren't exactly renowned for their quality work, so why contact them?

Ah please no shaft, that would get weird at lightning speeds.
Imagine that scene where Rena watched Keiichi in the trashyard, it would be done with one of those Headtilts smh. Not to talk about their psychedelic special effects ._.
(If we compare Deen to Shaft, I think the best comparison comes from Deen/Stay Night and Fate/Last Encore xd)

Also I think Deen atleast was fairly renowned for their quality work, they've done some very very beautiful and detailed stuff in the past.
But then again, maybe it was only so when they had a Movie/OVA budget during the 90's.

Deen is getting soooo much more shit by default than it deserves for some of it's "bad" works.

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Oct 12, 2020 10:37 AM

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Deen is getting soooo much more shit by default than it deserves

Well, I can't argue with that. Still would've preferred a better studio to handle the '06 anime. Madhouse was responsible for the brilliant Death Note adaptation, after all. It's not like they weren't around at the time. The fact that Deen's Higurashi adaptation turned out as incredible as it did was an anomaly imho. The lead animation director behind the first season definitely had a very pleasant artistic vision, while entirely inferior to Kasai's, still had quite a lot of SOUL behind it. I fear the underlings working beneath him were unable to do his vision justice if the lack of consistency and herky-jerk animation were any indication.


^This is Numata Seiya's work (the animation director of S1 of the Deen adaptation). Absolutely jaw-droppingly gorgeous direction, if you ask me.
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K_Rool_Addict said:
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Deen is getting soooo much more shit by default than it deserves

Well, I can't argue with that. Still would've preferred a better studio to handle the '06 anime. Madhouse was responsible for the brilliant Death Note adaptation, after all. It's not like they weren't around at the time. The fact that Deen's Higurashi adaptation turned out as incredible as it did was an anomaly imho. The lead animation director behind the first season definitely had a very pleasant artistic vision, while entirely inferior to Kasai's, still had quite a lot of SOUL behind it. I fear the underlings working beneath him were unable to do his vision justice if the lack of consistency and herky-jerk animation were any indication.

I wonder if it was simply a budget thing. I'm doing a rewatch of the original now, and some of the art and animation isn't as bad as I remember. The violent scenes in particular are well animated. Makes me wonder if they were just saving up for some of the bigger moments. The direction in some of the episiodes were pretty top notch as well. Episode 21 in particular holds up real well.
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It isn't shitty, it's just that there are some nostalgic fan of the old serie who has not yet understood that the series is based on the slice of life / horror contrast and thinks that higurashi is a gorefest (I am referring to the comments where they say that art clashes with higurashi's atmosphere, if you don't like it for personal preferences or for other reason, don't feel attached)
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It isn't shitty, it's just that there are some nostalgic fan of the old serie who has not yet understood that the series is based on the slice of life / horror contrast and thinks that higurashi is a gorefest (I am referring to the comments where they say that art clashes with higurashi's atmosphere, if you don't like it for personal preferences or for other reason, don't feel attached)
It's just a single troll who spends his entire day in the Higurashi MAL section.
Oct 13, 2020 5:31 PM
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Kse3a5 said:
"The new art style isn’t so bad"

This thread's title should be: Higurashi's old art style sucks ass but new art style is a gift from gods

Lmao.
Thanks for the laughs of the day :'D

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Oct 14, 2020 8:38 AM
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When I initially saw the trailer/poster, I was kinda disgusted by the greasy look of all the characters. I’ve finally got round to watching the first ep and you know what, it isn’t so bad! I kinda like it tbh

Of course nothing can beat the original, but at the same time, I feel more welcoming to this new art style now.

Anyone else changed their mind about the art?

I've gotten used to it, still prefer the original though. But this style is good too. Both are. Original looks better to me though. Call me biased.
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The art of the older anime is ugly I like this one's art so much more.

Keep in mind that was 2006 and it was used to lure you in with it's childish style, only to shock you later with it's dark tones and story. I thought it fit the horror aspects of the show and its tones incredibly well.
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The opening for the new Higurashi anime made me love the new art-style, it looks so crisp.
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The opening for the new Higurashi anime made me love the new art-style, it looks so crisp.

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Oct 14, 2020 9:17 AM

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nobody praise the vn initial art. same should apply for deen. nothing strange about it, i've been observing some of the most ridiculous criticisms. step up your game, bois. this is barely notably different from the vn art remastered style.
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Phantomnocomics said:
nobody praise the vn initial art.

What do you mean nobody praises the original VN art?
It's friggin beautiful and expressive..
Shame on those superficial people who can't see the deepness of Ryukishi's work :(

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Hulio said:
Phantomnocomics said:
nobody praise the vn initial art.

What do you mean nobody praises the original VN art?
It's friggin beautiful and expressive..
Shame on those superficial people who can't see the deepness of Ryukishi's work :(


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Phantomnocomics said:
Hulio said:

What do you mean nobody praises the original VN art?
It's friggin beautiful and expressive..
Shame on those superficial people who can't see the deepness of Ryukishi's work :(



Stop ruining your glasses..

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Oct 14, 2020 2:15 PM

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Hulio said:
Phantomnocomics said:



Stop ruining your glasses..


can't stop, takashi takeuchi art style has corrupted me.
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Kyoyo329 said:
kingdommoutenfan said:
The art of the older anime is ugly I like this one's art so much more.

Keep in mind that was 2006 and it was used to lure you in with it's childish style, only to shock you later with it's dark tones and story. I thought it fit the horror aspects of the show and its tones incredibly well.


Do you not think the new style is trying to do the same thing? It looks even more cutesy and innocent than the original imo.
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No - I disliked it first and still dislike it is my personal choice.
The greasy shine just makes it worse.
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Who are these three individuals who liked it at first but now dislike it? I'd love to hear an explanation as to why they feel this way. Was it the early concept art by Watanabe that you guys liked?
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Kyoyo329 said:

Keep in mind that was 2006 and it was used to lure you in with it's childish style, only to shock you later with it's dark tones and story. I thought it fit the horror aspects of the show and its tones incredibly well.


Do you not think the new style is trying to do the same thing? It looks even more cutesy and innocent than the original imo.


Of course it is trying to do that and I like the new art. But I was saying how this person this the original art is “ugly” like nah fam it’s a classic and yea it’s no Kyoto Animation or Ufotable but it fits well for Higurashi nonetheless. I like both styles but I prefer the original’s. Seen absolutely nailed the psychotic faces and expressions as a whole. But I love Akio’s work on other projects. Just like the title of this discussion, the new art isn’t as off putting as when I first saw it. They all lost some of the volume in their hair tho and the faces are a little too shiny. But other than that I like both styles. The OG’s, Kai’s and now Gou all look good!
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I don't hate the new art style at all but I'm still super used to the old one. And I kind of like how Rena's expressions in particular are drawn in the original anime. ( The new style kind of does that thing where it turns :D faces into :O sometimes if that makes any sense )
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When I first saw the trailer I didn't really know how to feel about it but now I don't think it's all that bad. The original is still better though imo
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The new style doesn't set up the atmosphere. They're so sweet, they make you sick.
May be some anime?
Oct 16, 2020 3:19 AM

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I mean, each season of higurashi had a different art style, so even if the new one is greasy/shiny/generic or whatever it's very welcomed to the varied collection
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The new artstyle throws me off. I have a hard time getting into it again because of how bubbly it is. On one hand I wish I could go back to that older less polished aesthetic for a lot of shows, but some of the new anime have been pulling off some good stuff lately, so not really. This new adaptation just looks like a watered down version of the monogatari style and I personally don't feel it fits. I especially dislike the new Keiichi look.
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I am surprised nobody is talking about Takano's tights in her nurse uniform... but I guess we all have our tastes when it comes to art.

once they appear in 2020 version then you can judge the art.
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"I disliked it first and still dislike it"

the new art style is disgusting. The old one was much, much better. At least the story holds.
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