| MAL is very popular in the west, but in Japan, many people use different listing websites for anime. A popular japanese website called Anikore. which has a top ranking list that's totally different from MAL's, AniDB's, Anilist's, etc. An interesting video from Yuta interviewing random japanese people about whether they've seen some of the top 20 anime on MAL, and their opinions. What do you think about the differences between the abovementioned Anikore's top list and MAL's top list; as you can see some very big distinctives; for example, as some of their top anime are obviously ranked lower here |
DeagoOct 6, 2020 12:44 AM
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| I remember the author of HakoMari said that he was surprised that his LN was on top on MAL (not nowadays though because of the trolls and haters who bombed its score) but he was a bit sad because he wanted his work to be popular in Japan. I think japanese people kinda don't care about it, but let's find out from our local japanese denizen |
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Deago said: MAL is very popular in the west, but in Japan, many people use different listing websites for anime. A popular japanese website called Anikore. which has a top ranking list that's totally different from MAL's, AniDB's, Anilist's, etc. An interesting video from Yuta interviewing random japanese people about whether they've seen some of the top 20 anime on MAL, and their opinions. What do you think about the differences between the abovementioned Anikore's top list and MAL's top list; as you can see some very big distinctives; for example, as some of their top anime are obviously ranked very low here Lol, Yuru Camp at #20. Pretty much Anikore has top ranking pretty different than MAL, Anime Planet, Anilist, etc, which is somewhat funny to see. But well it's just a ranking so i couldn't care less. |
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Mention said: Deago said: MAL is very popular in the west, but in Japan, many people use different listing websites for anime. A popular japanese website called Anikore. which has a top ranking list that's totally different from MAL's, AniDB's, Anilist's, etc. An interesting video from Yuta interviewing random japanese people about whether they've seen some of the top 20 anime on MAL, and their opinions. What do you think about the differences between the abovementioned Anikore's top list and MAL's top list; as you can see some very big distinctives; for example, as some of their top anime are obviously ranked very low here Lol, Yuru Camp at #20. Pretty much Anikore has top ranking pretty different than MAL, Anime Planet, Anilist, etc, which is somewhat funny to see. But well it's just a ranking so i couldn't care less. I think its clear that people in Japan have a less "critical attitude" compared to westerns when it comes to anime. A good example is how Sword Art Online is ranked #34  while here its #2200 something. |
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| Yojo Senki rank #5 on them. meanwhile MALs underappreciated them. smh |
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Hillary_Clinton_ said: japanese people don't give a fuck about steins:cringe or The End of Evancringelion Actually both these anime you mentioned are more positively acclaimed and popular in Japan than in the outside. |
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| They have a better taste than the West, that's for sure. Deago said: Mention said: Lol, Yuru Camp at #20. Pretty much Anikore has top ranking pretty different than MAL, Anime Planet, Anilist, etc, which is somewhat funny to see. But well it's just a ranking so i couldn't care less. I think its clear that people in Japan have a less "critical attitude" compared to westerns when it comes to anime. A good example is how Sword Art Online is ranked #34 while here its #2200 something. Looks good to me. And considering how influential SAO was for the 2010's decade in shaping the industry it makes sense for it to be as beloved. Do some people seriously think SAO is regarded as garbage yet manages continue to get seasons, spin-offs, and movies every year... this is beyond delusional thinking. |
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| I don't even care about MAL top ranking. As long as it doesn't has a really low score, the chance is the same if I will like it or not. All anime with rating above 7.5 have more or less same quality. The only reason why some anime can get score as high as 9.0 is only because it has more fanboys and fangirls. |
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Deago said: Mention said: Lol, Yuru Camp at #20. Pretty much Anikore has top ranking pretty different than MAL, Anime Planet, Anilist, etc, which is somewhat funny to see. But well it's just a ranking so i couldn't care less. I think its clear that people in Japan have a less "critical attitude" compared to westerns when it comes to anime. A good example is how Sword Art Online is ranked #34 while here its #2200 something. it shows that SAO haters bandwagon are mostly came from the west. |
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| There's more variety in the top20 from Anikore. That's a compliment. There's also less concern for plot holes, narrative consistency or use of tropes/lack of originality. And that is also a compliment. I don't see how in any way or form MAL's top is better. And I count at least three entries in Anikore's top20 that are top20 to me. MAL has one. |
| I love the way Japanese people think about anime. Like they watch all kinds of shits. And surprisingly Monogatari is a huge thing in Japan along with Madoka magica... But there is one thing I don't get it why Japanese are so crazy about idol shits... I thought a lot about this but nothing comes in my mind... |
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| My favorite anime, Violet Evergarden at #1 Made in Abyss at #4 Clannad After Story at #10 I can see they have a better taste. |
Cleostar said: Deago said: I think its clear that people in Japan have a less "critical attitude" compared to westerns when it comes to anime. A good example is how Sword Art Online is ranked #34 while here its #2200 something. it shows that SAO haters bandwagon are mostly came from the west. it's actually because streaming sites are heavily censored in japan, meaning their love for an anime is based mainly on first impressions. The first 2 episodes of SAO, as well as the idea behind SAO, are out of this world, but the rest of the anime is so crap that when you can watch the anime for what it is you quickly ask yourself "wow, when did this become a slice of life?" The second season didn't do it any favors as far as world popularity either, but over 80% (don't quote me on that percentage, it's been shifting less and less with increased exposure and censor culture caused a HUGE boom from live action to anime) of merchandising and disk sales come from INSIDE Japan's borders so how the outside world sees it? They don't really give a damn. |
| I wonder how the rankings would also look if they were also split via watched in dub vs watched in sub. ArendQuest said: I also remember a video from Yuta and like the 90% of people in Akihabara is more in to idol and slice of life anime. people here seem to hate slice of life or episodic anime since they often have no overarching plot. For me a lack of a plot isn't a big deal, but for other people if there isn't some goal or plot then they can't enjoy the show. |
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| Damn, it's changed quite a bit since the last time I checked. Konosuba better get a season 3 lol |
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| I think the west has way better taste from my perspective. The things I disagree with in the western top 100 are Wolf Children and Your Name. I am surprised how popular Love Live and idol stuff is in Japan. Edit: I found that Bunny girl senpai movie is somehow in mals top 100. I also disagree with that. Koe no Kotachi is overrated a ton. A place farther than the universe disagreed One Piece more like Slug Pace |
rohan121Oct 11, 2020 7:49 PM
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x_101 said: bluffinie said: My favorite anime, Violet Evergarden at #1 Made in Abyss at #4 Clannad After Story at #10 I can see they have a better taste. If being a simpleton means you have good taste, then yeah. Just kidding. I think it actually makes sense. Knowing Japan with its crazy workload, I bet people just want to watch some relaxing / easy shit most of the time. I know I do that when I'm tired after a long day. Are you implying MAL's top 20 is more sophisticated? |
| I find it so interesting none of them mentioned Cowboy Bebop and yet people that aren't from Japan usually cite it as one of the anime that got them into the media. |
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| I watched that too, and pretty surprised that Steins Gate isn't well known between these random people. Also, one of them mentioned how the list seems to be lacking some classics. Which, i think they might think that top anime = popular + well loved anime instead of just simply loved (high rated) anime. But i might be wrong.. XD Zlyiond said: Do Japanese people even use this website....? I thought that was exactly the case why Yuta chose this site..? Because it's mainly used by non-japanese and to compare it with Japanese on their "top anime" definition. |
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| Japan bought 100m+ copies of demon slayer. So bad tastes are universal. In West people are more critical. That's why the top anime on MAL have longevity. Top anime here will be more relevant in future when hype dies. |
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| In my opinion Japanese don't even care about old animes. Mostly there are old animes listed as top in mal. They always watch and list animes that are new and go on with their life. |
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Hillary_Clinton_ said: japanese people don't give a fuck about steins:cringe or The End of Evancringelion Steins;Gate being #7 in the pop ratings of Anikore looks relatively popular to me... Nurguburu said: Well, I know that Cowboy Bebop is not popular in Japan It's #10 sharing the place with GITS SAC. Scordolo said: In my opinion Japanese don't even care about old animes. Do you consider Cowboy Bebop and GITS SAC being old? They are #10 on Anikore. Check also FMA 2003. |
| Kinda funny looking Sao and Hyouka rated bigger over FMAB 😂😂😂 |
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removed-user said: LOL, it gets new shit because it's popular in Japan. That is the only reason. Japan doesn't care about individuality, so of course that having generic characters is not an issue. They have a better taste than the West, that's for sure. Deago said: I think its clear that people in Japan have a less "critical attitude" compared to westerns when it comes to anime. A good example is how Sword Art Online is ranked #34 while here its #2200 something. Looks good to me. And considering how influential SAO was for the 2010's decade in shaping the industry it makes sense for it to be as beloved. Do some people seriously think SAO is regarded as garbage yet manages continue to get seasons, spin-offs, and movies every year... this is beyond delusional thinking. I wouldn't call it garbage, but it's not a great show either. The plot armor that it has is just plain awful and bad writting, and the show has a lot of plot holes. Even though the plot might not be that bad on the large scale, if you pay attention to every small event you can tell how poor it is and how dumb it can get. But well, you are not ready for this discussion. |
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| I think nearly all of the older generation of Japanese people might have at least seen or heard of LotGH, as it was mailed out via subscriptions during its production (also the novels sold really well). Maybe the younger generation won't bother because it's old. |
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_cjessop19_ said: I think nearly all of the older generation of Japanese people might have at least seen or heard of LotGH, as it was mailed out via subscriptions during its production (also the novels sold really well). Maybe the younger generation won't bother because it's old. It's #102 on Anikore which doesn't sound catastrophically unpopular. For comparison JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken 2012 is #332. Point is people shouldn't pay much attention to rankings which aren't their own. Even less making big assumptions in the vain of "japanese like/don't like X". |
alshuOct 12, 2020 8:23 AM
alshu said: _cjessop19_ said: I think nearly all of the older generation of Japanese people might have at least seen or heard of LotGH, as it was mailed out via subscriptions during its production (also the novels sold really well). Maybe the younger generation won't bother because it's old. It's #102 on Anikore which doesn't sound catastrophically unpopular. For comparison JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken 2012 is #332. Point is people shouldn't pay much attention to rankings which aren't their own. Even less making big assumptions in the vain of "japanese like/don't like X". Plus you have to take into consideration that a decent portion of the international anime community uses MAL (~8.5 million) and other databases compared to (maybe) a few tens of thousands of people who use anikore. We have a bigger sample size when it comes down to recording statistics. |
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| Amusingly the Japanese ranking reflects my own tastes better than MAL. Helps that I totally dig SoL. |
| The big difference between the two is that Japan values SoL and drama a lot more than the foreign market |
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x_101 said: Nah, it was just a joke. If you look at both lists, you'll actually see they're not radically different. I guess I was reffering more to their relaxed attitude towards anime in general, from what I've seen in this video and others. At least that's the superficial impression they give lol. I'm sure there are really passionate individuals there too, even more than in the west. In fact, I can't really have a competent opinion, since I don't have a big picture of this. Comparing a specialized forum with random people on the streets isn't the best thing and I have no idea what their forums are like. Yeah I agree. Both lists are pretty similar. The distinctions I can make is that Japanese aren't afraid of moe compared to the West, while the West have a tendency to overrate shallow series that appears mature on the surface. |
| Erased its praised in Japan a lot, like they dont care about plot holes at all. Also some idol animes which are cringe for me. The most suprising is that a lot of them don't know about Steins gate which should be very good for them. |
huntress1013 said: Amusingly the Japanese ranking reflects my own tastes better than MAL. Helps that I totally dig SoL. I see your forum profle picture and I can understand why. They are weird too. |
| idk what they think and idc what they think but i know that the japanese mostly have a shit taste and that i agree way more on the top anime listed on mal. |
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Tanatloc said: You probably like the isekai genre dont you idk what they think and idc what they think but i know that the japanese mostly have a shit taste and that i agree way more on the top anime listed on mal. |
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RedGaming999972 said: its the japanese who like the slice of life with shity comedy and i would't be suprised if they like isekai as much idiot retardTanatloc said: You probably like the isekai genre dont you idk what they think and idc what they think but i know that the japanese mostly have a shit taste and that i agree way more on the top anime listed on mal. |
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williamherr2001 said: I love the fact that KonoSuba is ranked #2 on Anikore that was updated actually, it is currently ranked 1#.  |
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