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| This is the biggest middle finger to anyone following the manga up to this point. It isn't even about best girl is. But if you try to satisfy everyone no one will be satisfied. What a train wreck |
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| The power of love can heal everything. |
| I neither agree nor disagree, on the contrary. |
| real life: a person with separated parents -> nobody cares, the most normal thing in the world. fictional character with separated parents -> oh my god, how can they do that to the poor girl. Now she will have mental retardation. You all are so funny. |
| what an absolute win |
| On the one hand, Natsuo loves Hina from the beginning, Hina sacrifices her work, their relationship and her own happiness in order to give Natsuo a future. Natsuo then sacrifices his own integrity to save Hina from a stalker. Finally Hina returns to save natsuo's career by confronting the extortionist herself and is left in a coma state for that. On the other hand, Rui decides that the only man she likes is her sister's boyfriend and tries to force herself on him all the time. Then, due to certain events, she manages to stay with him and then cut her relationship unilaterally in order to go to the USA to 'follow her dreams' and being a chef (it seems that chefs and restaurants do not exist in Japan). The first sign of her maturation has been given in this last chapter. I agree that the part of Haruka does not make so much sense. But overall, the outcome does. |
| Man, that was dumb. |
| The most hilarious thing I've read in my entire life is Hina stans who are so OBSESSED with their win, they don't care about manga quality at all and so blind to all arguments shoved right into their faces. Thank you, I had a great laugh reading these comments. You know who I am talking about, you're at top in this thread. I would be totally okay with Natsuo choosing Hina (because HE WANTS TO, lmao) if Sasuga SHOWED this, not TOLD. You know, like in a good story? I actually blame time-skip for this, it should have been handled MUCH better, but Sasuga decided to rush the ending. The "plot-twist" is not bad itself, it's how it's written IS awful. (And some things before that too, poor Hina is almost getting killed twice, are you fucking serious? What's next, a meteorite hits her home?) You see the difference? I do. But "the win is the win", any criticism is for losers and salty Rui stans, amirite?? Imagine this hypotetical situation, fellow kids- I am a Batman writer. I am writing a pretty good story, maybe 6 or 7 out of 10, action here and there, love interests, impossible crimes, then I do 5-year time-skip and reveal that Batman was gay all this time. Pretty logic, don't you think? He has all these young boys around him after all, so it absolutely makes sense in my head. He banged all these hot chicks like Catwoman before? Well... so what? He released he's gay now, who are you to judge him? Okay, I even writing him saying the line "This is who I truly am", you can't say I didn't convince you, you're just salty hater and homophobic. You should be ashamed of yourself. If you think this situation was hypotetical- it actually happened with IceMan from X-Men. Dude loved women for 50 years (1963-mid2010), but then came Brain Bendis and written "well, you secretly were gay all this time". Not even bi-sexual. Gay. Quality writing here and now. GG it was us, readers, who really lost, not Rui, Hina or even Marie, but some of us can't even accept this. Mic drop. |
TheMangaManiac said: The most hilarious thing I've read in my entire life is Hina stans who are so OBSESSED with their win, they don't care about manga quality at all and so blind to all arguments shoved right into their faces. Thank you, I had a great laugh reading these comments. You know who I am talking about, you're at top in this thread. I would be totally okay with Natsuo choosing Hina (because HE WANTS TO, lmao) if Sasuga SHOWED this, not TOLD. You know, like in a good story? I actually blame time-skip for this, it should have been handled MUCH better, but Sasuga decided to rush the ending. The "plot-twist" is not bad itself, it's how it's written IS awful. (And some things before that too, poor Hina is almost getting killed twice, are you fucking serious? What's next, a meteorite hits her home?) You see the difference? I do. But "the win is the win", any criticism is for losers and salty Rui stans, amirite?? The thing is, us Hina fans aren't "obsessed" with our win, we're glad that our favorite girl is gonna get her happy life and we are also laughing our asses off seeing all these Rui stans doing the exact things that they called us out for. I agree that there should've been more development during the time skip of Natsuo's feelings for Hina, as it's easy to misunderstand it and think that he's doing it out of guilt or pity, but she was backed into a corner, not enough volumes left and a deadline to meet doesn't make for a good, well thought out ending. I, as a Hina fan, would've prefered it if this (let's call it an "accident") "accident" never happened and she actually got to confess back at the park, but, Hina being who she is, she was never gonna do it herself. I think that the thing behind your "poor Hina is almost getting killed twice, are you fucking serious? What's next, a meteorite hits her home?" is simple. A writer/author won't go out of their way to detail a character's life if they don't like them. That's simple. Hina's been through so much, it's impossible to think that she was gonna get a bad ending, meanwhile things have been super straightforward for Rui, minus the one bullying incident. Overall, yeah, I agree with you, this was rushed and it would've been better if we got maybe gradual time skips, scenes showing how Natsuo's feelings developped and not just "Ok, so i'm not marrying Rui, I'll take care of Hina" -5 years later- "Marry me Hina", It would've shown his sincerity and wouldn't have made it look like he's doing it out guilt. |
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Level5-1996 said: On the one hand, Natsuo loves Hina from the beginning, Hina sacrifices her work, their relationship and her own happiness in order to give Natsuo a future. Natsuo then sacrifices his own integrity to save Hina from a stalker. Finally Hina returns to save natsuo's career by confronting the extortionist herself and is left in a coma state for that. On the other hand, Rui decides that the only man she likes is her sister's boyfriend and tries to force herself on him all the time. Then, due to certain events, she manages to stay with him and then cut her relationship unilaterally in order to go to the USA to 'follow her dreams' and being a chef (it seems that chefs and restaurants do not exist in Japan). The first sign of her maturation has been given in this last chapter. I agree that the part of Haruka does not make so much sense. But overall, the outcome does. You guys always complain about people not understanding Hina and shitting on her for it, yet at the same time, you make up bs about Rui to shit on her lol. |
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| Theory on the ring: 1. The ring is made of Silver, silver is technically a poisonous metal which could send signals to the brain making it react to certain stimulus. This would make sense in regards to the shock Hina received to remember Natsuo placing the ring on her finger all those years ago and eventually waking up. or 2. Magic. So does no one feel bad for Haruka after all of this? She's been gone through 5 years in life only knowing Hina as her friend and not her Aunt. I just find that completely unusual and quite Frankly I find that to be bad parenting on Rui and Natsuo's part. The worst part is that part of the story will only be left to us the fans as to what Haruka's relationship will be with Hina. If chapter 73 does play a role and it's actually Hina and Haruka coming home to Natsuo. Honestly I think that's a slap in the face for Rui. (But honestly now that everything has happened I feel as though chapter 73 is irrelevant) This chapter only made my disdain for Natsuo grow more. He tells Marie that he wants to propose himself and then he does it while she is in the fucking Coma. Give me a fucking break. The main character in this Manga has the least development while Hina and Rui's characters continued to develop from the very beginning. I'm at the point now where I hope Hina says fuck you Natsuo (even though she won't, she wins, I understand) because Frankly she does deserve better. But hell you can't stop true love. Thedeathofme said: Why is no one endorsing the harem ending? I would love to see Sasuga throw a curveball and get them all together mushoku tensei style (well prolly cos of it's a crime in Japan to do polygamy, but one still can hope right?) Because the Magazine that Domekano is published in does not allow Harem endings. |
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| this is pretty hilarious and delicious, not gonna lie |
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| Folks expected too much hand-holding , smh. Failing to see how during all those chapters of kawaii Rui x Nat typical couple shenanigans, two important things that happen are: 1) - Those moments, despite making memories, also build up to Rui & Natsuo's break up in 214, where her insecurities truly manifest, same insecurities that showed more subtle, early signs throughout the story that are often dismissed as "aw, just a couple moment, she jealous how cute!". Why is this important given that they got back together? It's important to understand Rui's decision recently as she already felt guilty about making moves on Natsuo despite knowing how much he loved Hina & that Hina STILL loved him, she knows her love for him doesn't really match Hina's. She knows this throughout the story at various points, but never really acted on it until recently ~ it was bound to come. 2) - Ever since Hina got back home from ch 129+ she settled in the role of "Hina-nee" & holding back her feelings due to a number of reasons, mainly her selfless nature manifesting in not wanting to make a move on Natsuo as he's now with Rui. However, despite that, their natural chemistry shows, their emotional connection keeps getting strengthened as she always supports & comforts him in ways that Rui never did ~ particularly when it comes to writing related matters and writing is VERY important to Natsuo. It continues while Rui goes to NY doing her own thing, while Hina keeps standing by his side. The catch is that Hina & Natsuo's affection then can never truly manifest in romantic ways as there's several things preventing that. Once there's nothing preventing them from getting together though, all truth being out, as well as Rui giving Natsuo the "go" , there's nothing stopping the two from being together again ~ they are, as per the name of the chapter indicates, SOUL MATES! And so the story comes full circle given it's "prologue" that the anime covers, with the taboo teacher x student theme + the writing theme. Seriously, you just need to consider those two things and ask yourself who's the one most involved between Hina or Rui and everything might start to make more sense. That's probably the simplest way you can thin about it. In a sense, it's as if his relationship with Rui prepared him for round 2 with Hina, though not like Rui didn't get anything out of it. I mean, memories + Haruka + emotional growth are plenty and she still has her career though that's not Natsuo related. So besides not getting to be with Natsuo, she's in a pretty good spot considering that as shown in the early DnK drafts she was supposed to be a full blown side character or replaced to with a childhood friend called Akko. |
| A lot of people are missing the point. There's little debate anymore about who "wins". It simply doesn't matter anymore. Most people are fans of a decent story that wraps up with some sort of logic. Nothing in the last 5 chapters makes any real sense. I've watched and read a whole lot of good and bad stuff in my time but I didn't think I'd ever give less a damn about an ending to something I've enjoyed so much. I can't even find it funny enough to laugh about anymore. |
| The last 100 chapters were dull drama, with stupid twists and side stories no one cared. You can see author's lacks of ideas when Rui out of nowhere broke with Nat and went to America. It's downfall from there. She should keep manga as ecchi rom-com not damn Seo Koji wannabe fanfic. |
| I will only accept Natsuo x Rei, Natsuo x Mimsaki, or Natsuo x Serizawa |
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I gotchu. "75% of the manga of Rui x Nat" is a GROSS misinterpretation. -She spends 115 chapters just befores she finally gets into a relationship with him as until then, it's mostly Hina in his mind, even when she's not present between ch 64 -92! It takes the island rejection between 92-97 , coupled with Shuu's lie earlier to get him to "move on". -Rui & Natsuo's time as a couple lasts from 115-216(and some more after 250) but what even happens during those chapters? Hina returns home in 129 and since then is ALSO always there to support Natsuo, but takes upon the role of "Hina-nee" while holding back her feelings, all the while Natsuo is convinced that it's over between 'em. -Her interactions with him are not only no less than those of his with Rui, but even manage to show the extra support, especially emotional support that Rui doesn't even succeed at , despite being his actual gf ~ reasons being her insecurities. -Besides that, during those chapters you also have Miyabi focused arcs, as well as the heavy Hina focused Tanabe arc, and of course, Rui has many chapters with just her at work, or with chefboi. In ch 198 I believe she leaves for NY and just has an interaction with Natsuo every once in a while over a call. -Meanwhile, Hina continues to be by his side through thick & thin, ever strengthening their emotional connection. The way she comforts him when finding out about loosing his writing is the way Rui wished to comfort him. > For even better context < And there are many more instances, even present in casual conversations where Hina offers the comfort that Rui does not manage to. Some folks dismiss that because "they're not a couple at the time" which they can't due to circumstances, but the bond is there & growing stronger either way.There are even instances where that dormant romantic spark lights up a bit before growing dormant again. Moments like this, and several others. This has been building up for ages now. hello337 said: I certainly didn’t get that, but seeing you Hina fans so happy really does put a smile on my face. With everyone complaining on Sasuga’s twitter and the subreddit, it’s good to know that there are people who enjoyed Sasuga’s work start to finish. To be honest, the Rui x Nat ending that’s been built toward for the past 200 chapters was always much too safe and bland for Domestic Girlfriend. I should’ve known that it was going to go out with controversy. I'm down to debunk the "Rui x Nat 200+ ch of build up wasted" thing with anyone, and my above post addresses some of that, although it's a summary. Even doing a reddit series on it that I hope to complete in the next week, or at least in the week after the final chapter. Might post 'em here eventually but in case anyone's curious.... Link to part III, with the previous parts being linked there. I find 'em fun to make as it gets to me re-read a good chunk of the manga & interact with the DnK community. We may be lesser in number, but we're overall pretty content with how things turned out ~ granted, not to say that we don't have our own issues with it as well. |
ManlyTearJun 2, 2020 9:38 PM
TheFrostyMan said: Okay here is my two cents. I don’t have a problem with hina winning. I mean she went through a lot for natsu. But what the fuck! This is just such a weird ending like we went through 20 chapters getting natsu and rui together and I don’t know if you guys know this...THEY HAVE A FUCKING CHILD. If you put a child in a women you need to be a man and take responsability for the wife and child. It’s just to rushed of an ending after all we went through with natsu and rui’s relationship. Now again I don’t mind hina winning but how the author made her win we should agree it’s kind of stupid. Hina as endgame isn't stupid. How many kids out there are living without one of their parents? Haruka has both her mom and dad, and they're on good terms. |
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| Deus ex machina event Eprekenyes said: Please marry both them...🙏 I would not be opposed to that, if all three of the adults consented to such a relationship. That said I am not sure if the polyamory wall will be broken. Akagi-kun said: There is no need to hate Sasuga. It's just a manga. Right. The author does not owe us our preferred ending. We are free to read this manga or not. We all came here voluntarily. Good post. |
JALU3Jun 2, 2020 11:36 PM
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JR9253 said: K-Lye said: A lot of people are missing the point. There's little debate anymore about who "wins". It simply doesn't matter anymore. Most people are fans of a decent story that wraps up with some sort of logic. Nothing in the last 5 chapters makes any real sense. I've watched and read a whole lot of good and bad stuff in my time but I didn't think I'd ever give less a damn about an ending to something I've enjoyed so much. I can't even find it funny enough to laugh about anymore. Exactly this, it's not about the ships at all. I am Hina gang and I think this ending is utter trash lmao. It's about poor writing, not who won. Imagine how much better it'd have been with no initial timeskip or accident/coma and Natsuo just being fucking decisive for once in his life and just picking someone. After that it skips ahead and shows everyone happy with their lives. Even the most basic of endings such as that would've been better than this. What irritates me the most is "NO" ending now makes sense. The way this closing arc has gone you could literally pick anything.. either ship, neither ship, bittersweet, harem, even a feckin random isekai.. nothing really ties back to the plot lines and character development over the last 250+ chapters now. It's a hugely dissapointing let down given how enjoyable the read has been up until now. |
| This is like mexican telenovela |
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| I couldn't really care much about any.. and I mean literally ANY of these characters but damn this random plot twist is literally worst than any plot armor I've seen from action shounen shit, yes, even worst than Erza's massive random wins to the point that the only explanation we need for her to get an insta win despite any enemy she faces is "Because she's Erza". Hina's boobs(plot)armor>>>>>>Erza's plot armor. Ya'll can't seriously think this is OK right? cause all I see are Hina fans being obnoxious af. That being said tho this is fcking glorious! iirc back when I was a tiny bit into this I was into Rui more than Hina, after checking out these recent chapters tho.. Rui's design kinda fell flat after her new hairstyle, Hina on the other hand... Hot fcking damn! so either way.. the MC is the only winner here. One got fcking vegetable'd to get a happy ending and one literally got screwed out of the wedding cause of the guilt, as the great Vincent Kennedy Mcmahon once said... "THIS IS SUCH GOOD SHIT!!!!" EDIT: Holy shit that 1/5 ratio... I've only started checking the ch threads now but Jesus christ that is the largest 1/5 ratio I've seen in a while. |
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| Great. Marry the sister of the girl you have a kid with, who's in a coma. Haruka to her friends be like: "My aunt is my mom". My reaction when Natsuo proposed this chapter: |
KrykiJun 3, 2020 3:47 AM
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| This is such a garbage ending and the fact some people still think that this ending is good becuz their ship wins is so stupid and hilarious like HOW this ending is good writing becuz all I see is terrible ending I don't mind Natsuo x Hina ending but the author should have made this endgame when Rui broke up with Natsuo and goes to America. The fact that even after break up he chose Rui over Hina even though all that time Hina was the one who was there to support him just shows Natsuo love Rui alot so now suddenly after an accident the complete 180 change of his character is beyond stupid writing. If that time he realized that he still love Hina and chose her over Rui then I don't mind this ending. But all that drama to choose Rui, make her pregnant, decide to marry her and then abandon all that because of a car accident and coma is really bad |
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| Man Sasuga gives no fucks. From her twitter; "Thank you for your feedback and RT this week. There are various opinions, but I and the staff in charge arrived here with conviction. So it doesn't matter what you think. Next week, we will have a lot of last decorations on the front cover, the top of the bag, and the whole bag, so please buy a magazine by all means." "So it doesn't matter what you think." I fucking love it. kek. |
DarudiusJun 3, 2020 7:45 AM
Darudius said: Man Sasuga gives no fucks. From her twitter; "Thank you for your feedback and RT this week. There are various opinions, but I and the staff in charge arrived here with conviction. So it doesn't matter what you think. Next week, we will have a lot of last decorations on the front cover, the top of the bag, and the whole bag, so please buy a magazine by all means." "So it doesn't matter what you think." I fucking love it. kek. She is going direct to my favourite list. Btw, For all of you critics, good luck writing your own manga, or maybe you founded a mangaka school? LOL stop justifying your salt with the writing. |
Level5-1996 said: Darudius said: Man Sasuga gives no fucks. From her twitter; "Thank you for your feedback and RT this week. There are various opinions, but I and the staff in charge arrived here with conviction. So it doesn't matter what you think. Next week, we will have a lot of last decorations on the front cover, the top of the bag, and the whole bag, so please buy a magazine by all means." "So it doesn't matter what you think." I fucking love it. kek. She is going direct to my favourite list. Btw, For all of you critics, good luck writing your own manga, or maybe you founded a mangaka school? LOL stop justifying your salt with the writing. My favourite "argument", ladies and gentlemen. "You don't like it lmao? Draw something yourself" Guess what 1- I don't have to be a perfect chef to know when my dish tastes like shit. Because you can COMPARE something tasty to something un-tasty. You can see the difference. You may not fully understand how it's done, but you understand that something IS wrong. I don't have to know how to do everything in this world- it's literally impossible. Not every movie/game critic is a great screenwriter or developer. This is not how the world works. Guess what 2- I AM drawing my own manga. What a plot-twist, huh. Doing it since I'm 18, so around 7 years? Yes, I'm not nowhere near professional level- but this wasn't the question) I think I'm allowed to criticize it after all, But drawing is much, much harder than writing a story. You can spend days on fixing stuff you don't like or drawing backgrounds. I have 0 hate towards Sasuga' ART- art is absolutely gorgeous, it's on some level I could never achieve in years. But the story? Story is just garbage. It's not even "The Room" or guilty pleasure, it's just BAD. But I hear you, you are the most vocal Hina stan in here)) Congratulations with your victory, do you need your crown to be polished? If "draw your own manga" and "you all are just SALTY lmao" are your best arguments, I see no point in having conversation in a first place. You're just a troll at this point. Have your fun, buddy. |
TheMangaManiac said: Level5-1996 said: She is going direct to my favourite list. Btw, For all of you critics, good luck writing your own manga, or maybe you founded a mangaka school? LOL stop justifying your salt with the writing. My favourite "argument", ladies and gentlemen. "You don't like it lmao? Draw something yourself" Guess what 1- I don't have to be a perfect chef to know when my dish tastes like shit. Because you can COMPARE something tasty to something un-tasty. You can see the difference. You may not fully understand how it's done, but you understand that something IS wrong. I don't have to know how to do everything in this world- it's literally impossible. Not every movie/game critic is a great screenwriter or developer. This is not how the world works. Guess what 2- I AM drawing my own manga. What a plot-twist, huh. Doing it since I'm 18, so around 7 years? Yes, I'm not nowhere near professional level- but this wasn't the question) I think I'm allowed to criticize it after all, But drawing is much, much harder than writing a story. You can spend days on fixing stuff you don't like or drawing backgrounds. I have 0 hate towards Sasuga' ART- art is absolutely gorgeous, it's on some level I could never achieve in years. But the story? Story is just garbage. It's not even "The Room" or guilty pleasure, it's just BAD. But I hear you, you are the most vocal Hina stan in here)) Congratulations with your victory, do you need your crown to be polished? If "draw your own manga" and "you all are just SALTY lmao" are your best arguments, I see no point in having conversation in a first place. You're just a troll at this point. Have your fun, buddy. You are confused, I do not say that the work is a masterpiece either. And I understand that people will like the manga and others won't. You just can't repeat constantly that the writing is garbage after seeing 200+ with the same quality and saying that it was spectacular. That's not serious. As they have been listed several times, there are several reasons why this outcome is perfectly possible. I'm not saying it was the only one possible, if the story were totally linear and in one direction it wouldn't be entertaining. Now as it did not turn out as most people wanted It is the worst trash. 'Sasuga does not know how to write properly' Good luck with your work. Let us know when it is published. |
| And now I remembered raging on Sasuga's Twitter Hina fans. |
Akagi-kun said: And now I remembered raging on Sasuga's Twitter Hina fans. It's wrong too, that's my point. |
| Well... at least most of us didn't pay for that garbage. That's positive. And no, author should not alter their story under pressure of fans. Also criticizing her on twitter is kinda pointless, she only cares about Japanese public and her publishers. That's where the money come. So if you don't like it, just rate low and move along. 5/10 |
| BULLSHIT... ring of love "made" her to wake up. Fuck this hahahaha |
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