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Apr 12, 2020 5:37 PM
#51
Apr 12, 2020 5:39 PM
#52
NO_U_ETC said: Sword Art Online, is hotgarbage, and felt rushed. Change my mind. S-H-I-N-Y said: We don't change anyone's mind of thinking SAO is garbage, we praise them.Sword Art Online is an incoherent pile of mediocrity yet it still managed to be one of if not the most important anime of the 2010's through its enormous industry impact. |
Apr 12, 2020 5:41 PM
#53
nanimeanswhat said: I get your point but by saying stupid decisions I was talking about the entirety of After Story. Clannad itself is simply just boring but it's honestly a lot more logical than After Story. It's an unpopular opinion but I really do think Clannad is better than After Story. For example, everyone knows Nagisa is fragile and she gets seriously ill on winters, but then after their marriage, she decides that she wants to have a baby and they time her pregnancy EXACTLY so that she goes into labor in the middle of winter when she's the weakest. She even goes as far as wanting to give birth at home and her family seriously considers it! The heck? Well, at least they consult the doctor and refuse but you don't need to be a medical expert to understand this situation. But then it snows and she gives birth at home and dies *surprised pikachu face* Her death was entirely caused by their own ignorance. And not only Tomoya causes his wife's death, he also abandons his only daughter FOR 5 YEARS because she reminds him of Nagisa? Dude... When they finally start to create a bond (which was the only episode I geniuinely enjoyed because it was so wholesome), his daughter is also suffers from the same disease. But how do they know that? Well, of course they use the most Clannad way possible. Instead of taking her to the hospital for check ups and tests like every sane person would do, they simply just summon a random doctor with a stethescope and the doctor says "Yep it's the same disease don't even try to cure it's impossible lol" and disappears into thin air because apparently one stethescope is enough to diagnose an incurable chronic disease. They end up believing this doctor and completely give up on curing her and decide to keep her at home as if she'll be safer at home. Lastly, when she was laying sick, she wants to go on a trip, Tomoya decides to take her and *gasp* she also dies. Well, did you even try to save her, or your wife? No you just sat there and hoped for miracles. I've read about the whole theory about collecting flying lights in alternative timelines but it didn't erase all those stupid decisions that led their life into catastrophe. It's like the writer was desperate to make this story as sad as possible that they ended up tossing common sense away and made the cast out of a bunch of idiots. Nagisa's parents are GOAT, though. They're precious. Things would be more acceptable if Nagisa gave birth during another season but died anyway due to complications or if Tomoya desperately tried to find a cure for his only daughter but failed. Then I wouldn't call them stupid and the story would be much more emotional. If the coronavirus existed in that universe they would probably all die and kill the doctor with them because they're too ignorant and stubborn to seek serious medical care. Oh, okay, I see that now. You did specify "After Story", but it looks as though I glanced over it. Though, honestly, I would still say the same thing as I did for Clannad. I'm pretty sure she couldn't time the pregnancy. That's just not how that stuff works. Surprise pregnancies happen all the time IRL and in movies as a trope. That's why people learn the symptoms of it and take tests to find out if they are. They both had literal no control over the situation in what season it occurs. The only thing they could control is if it happened at all. Also, I don't know why them talking it over and considering a specific option about the birth bothered you. What about doing said birth at home seems completely stupid to you? The medical professional in that show focused on calming her nerves and not reminding her of the condition she has as something important which means staying at home wouldn't be a bad option. Clannad even addressed that saying that the correct course of action to do in this situation is a complete mystery due to the condition being unpredictable(which btw is what they needed the medical professional to potentially tell them the best course of action to take as well as other questions). How Clannad handled this whole thing was very mature. The two characters carefully considered this to the best of their ability and accepted the risk of having the baby. As for the sending Ushio to Nagisa's parents, that was also a good decision. You have to remember Tomoya was straight up in a depression, he wasn't at all in the right mental state and as a single parent, he would've had a harder time supporting the child financially and emotionally. If anything it would've been irresponsible for him to decide to take care of Ushio when the better, other option was available to him. They end up believing this doctor and completely give up on curing her and decide to keep her at home as if she'll be safer at home I mean what do you expect them to do? The doctor is a medical professional, they can't do anything if the whole medical field in Japan is scratching their heads over the condition. They can't pull a cure out of anywhere, this isn't Fairy Tail. It's for the best they did what was suggested by the doctor. Btw contacting a doctor is just as valid as going to the hospital in this case, if this unspecific cure doesn't need any high tech gear to detect. I'm not really sure what to say about the stethoscope thing, aside from they probably did other tests off-camera and you can't say that's a stupid way to find that disease as we know literally nothing about it. Lastly, when she was laying sick, she wants to go on a trip, Tomoya decides to take her and *gasp* she also dies. Well, did you even try to save her, or your wife? No you just sat there and hoped for miracles. At that point, it was heavily implied that he gave up hope completely as her condition just got worse and worse(even as they were staying at home) and wanted to do a last-ditch effort of fulfilling her wish before she died. I can see why you would think it was a stupid decision, but really this felt organic to his character and I understood his reasoning completely. |
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Apr 12, 2020 5:42 PM
#54
Damerino said: NO_U_ETC said: Sword Art Online, is hotgarbage, and felt rushed. Change my mind. S-H-I-N-Y said: We don't change anyone's mind that they think SAO is garbage, we praise them.Sword Art Online is an incoherent pile of mediocrity yet it still managed to be one of if not the most important anime of the 2010's through its enormous industry impact. It's a fact that you can't avoid. But that doesn't mean there isn't more to it than just being awful. |
Apr 12, 2020 5:44 PM
#55
TheFirmSword said: The chimera ant arc was quite boring and not even the best arc of the show but people exaggerate by calling it the best arc in anime. Just like a lot of people, the Chimera Ant arc is my favorite arc of the series. However, I can also understand why people hate it. It is very different compared to the other arcs, there were a lack of notable characters like Kurapika, Leorio and Hisoka, and it does feel a bit fillerish. Funnily enough, I call the arc the Fate/Zero of Hunter x Hunter. I know it's weird thing to say but there's a good reason. Both Fate/Zero and the Chimera Ant arc are considered to be the best part of their respective franchises with darker tones, some character development and mostly different characters compared to the rest of what their main story is usually known for (for the case of Fate/Zero, it's the original Fate/Stay Night visual novel). On the other hand however, that huge difference can also be a problem as they look as if they are straying away from the main point and original nature of the story. Unlike the Chimera Ant arc though, Fate/Zero does not feel filler-ish and it's its own thing. But it still feels too different compared to the orignal FSN story with the focus on adults, instead of high schoolers and different characters from the original story. But yeah, I just wanted to point my opinion out since we're talking about the Chimera Ant arc here. Now back on topic: The Monogatari series is very confusing with all the words and the dialogue is too random and goes nowhere. This is the reason why I liked it less than many people. And also... No Game No Life has way too much unecessary fanservice which also made me liked it less than many people. |
Apr 12, 2020 5:45 PM
#56
ConnoisseurMike said: Your comment is useless. You should have contributed to it by saying that the Legend of the Galactic Heroes is garbage and it offers nothing worthy of spending our time on it. I'm immensely disappointed in you.This tread failed, it’s just a Hunter x Hunter discussion. |
Apr 12, 2020 5:49 PM
#57
Damerino said: ConnoisseurMike said: Your comment is useless. You should have contributed to it by saying that Legend of the Galactic Heroes is garbage and it offers nothing worthy of spending our time on it. I'm immensely disappointed in you.This tread failed, it’s just a Hunter x Hunter discussion. The fact that people aren't being cowards and are defending their opinions means the thread succeeded. It's somewhat annoying that people are only talking about one show but the fact that this conversation exists is a good thing. |
Apr 12, 2020 5:49 PM
#58
Damerino said: ConnoisseurMike said: Your comment is useless. You should have contributed to it by saying that the Legend of the Galactic Heroes is garbage and it offers nothing worthy of spending our time on it. I'm immensely disappointed in you.This tread failed, it’s just a Hunter x Hunter discussion. im gonna say it in his place even tho i did not watch it the Legend of the Galactic Heroes is garbage and it offers nothing worthy of spending our time on it EDIT: @ConnoisseurMike BTW just joking dont take it seriously |
AskaaApr 12, 2020 7:04 PM
”A fight isn't won once a victor is decided, it's won when someone loses.” – Izayoi Sakamaki I don’t even know the real names of the two… no, three that I killed back then. I just closed my eyes, put my hands over my ears and tried to forget it all.” – Kirito MY ANIME LIST |
Apr 12, 2020 5:51 PM
#59
nanimeanswhat said: Oh, don't worry about it. I was just giving you a heads up.Peaceful_Critic said: @nanimeanswhat Can you remove one of the o's in your / spoiler? I'll respond after that's been done. Already done. I've realised it after I sent it, sorry. I hope no one saw it T_T |
Apr 12, 2020 5:56 PM
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jal90 said: And my point was that there were other ways for Leorio to replace Komugi.I don't know where does the narrative of replacing Komugi with Leorio come from. Is Leorio blind, frail and a genius at one single little thing that can drive a supervillain mad? Unless you give me a character with at least a similarly fragile character design and similarly helpless you are missing the point of the arc and it's no longer about improving it, it's about how you could simply just move on to another show because you are not making a sensical alternative to the story and Meruem's whole character arc as they are. There was no need for someone blind, or frail, or for Gungi in general. Role of Komugi, and I would say Netero as well, was to prove to Meruem that there is much more to humans than meets the eye, and considering we still don't know that much about Leorio anyway, his own backstory, and the way he lives, in contrast to Gon, Killua, and Kurapika, could have been revealed even more together with Meruem's development. |
Apr 12, 2020 5:56 PM
#61
S-H-I-N-Y said: More than expected. I thought there would be tons of shitpost and while a couple of them are, I think the majority here seem genuine for most of their takes on certain anime/scenes. I like it. I'm trying to have fun with it as long i'm allowed but I'm serious when it needed to.Damerino said: ConnoisseurMike said: This tread failed, it’s just a Hunter x Hunter discussion. The fact that people aren't being cowards and are defending their opinions means the thread succeeded. It's somewhat annoying that people are only talking about one show but the fact that this conversation exists is a good thing. Askaa said: YES! YES! YES!Damerino said: ConnoisseurMike said: This tread failed, it’s just a Hunter x Hunter discussion. im gonna say it in his place even tho i did not watch it the Legend of the Galactic Heroes is garbage and it offers nothing worthy of spending our time on it YES. |
Apr 12, 2020 5:57 PM
#62
Askaa said: Damerino said: ConnoisseurMike said: This tread failed, it’s just a Hunter x Hunter discussion. im gonna say it in his place even tho i did not watch it the Legend of the Galactic Heroes is garbage and it offers nothing worthy of spending our time on it Gonna give an opinion of a flaw with the series that breaks my immersion and really kills my motivation to finish it: The space battles in Legend of the Galactic Heroes make no sense. They fight like they are on a planet with our military technology. The great 'strategy' in these space battles would be outdone by a child who just finished geometry class and understands that there are 3 axis to move on. Edit: spelling |
S-H-I-N-YApr 12, 2020 6:05 PM
Apr 12, 2020 6:07 PM
#63
Can you really call yourself an anime fan, if you’ve never experienced the greatness that is LOTGH?? I don’t think so. Ps: This is still just a HxH Discussion. |
Sammy2HandsApr 12, 2020 6:18 PM
Apr 12, 2020 6:09 PM
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Psajdak said: honestly i can respect this opinion a ton. i fucking love leorio and he is easily one of the most underrated characters in the show. i do think the adaptation of komugi and meruem was still great, but i completely see what you're saying here TheFirmSword said: Chimera Ant arc was for me garbage because with some little tweaks, it could have Leorio as one of its main characters, instead of Komugi.The chimera ant arc was quite boring and not even the best arc of the show but people exaggerate by calling it the best arc in anime. P.s. please avoid personal attacks. Because, you know, Leorio IS one of the main characters. It was such a wasted chance. |
Apr 12, 2020 6:15 PM
#65
Shutos said: Well, to be fair, I myself really like Komugi and her interactions with Meruem are some of the best in series, but Leorio being ignored for such a long time, it just made dislike Greed Island, as well as Chimera Ant arc, even though they were technically done really well.honestly i can respect this opinion a ton. i fucking love leorio and he is easily one of the most underrated characters in the show. i do think the adaptation of komugi and meruem was still great, but i completely see what you're saying here It is similar feeling I have about some Bleach characters like Orihime, Yasutora, and Uryu. |
Apr 12, 2020 6:21 PM
#66
Psajdak said: jal90 said: And my point was that there were other ways for Leorio to replace Komugi.I don't know where does the narrative of replacing Komugi with Leorio come from. Is Leorio blind, frail and a genius at one single little thing that can drive a supervillain mad? Unless you give me a character with at least a similarly fragile character design and similarly helpless you are missing the point of the arc and it's no longer about improving it, it's about how you could simply just move on to another show because you are not making a sensical alternative to the story and Meruem's whole character arc as they are. There was no need for someone blind, or frail, or for Gungi in general. Role of Komugi, and I would say Netero as well, was to prove to Meruem that there is much more to humans than meets the eye, and considering we still don't know that much about Leorio anyway, his own backstory, and the way he lives, in contrast to Gon, Killua, and Kurapika, could have been revealed even more together with Meruem's development. There was because it makes the point that the world's strongest creature can't defeat her, as fragile as she actually is, and it makes Meruem evaluate his whole moral value system with pure strength being at the top of everything, and triggers his redemption arc by ultimately crushing it to pieces. It's fine if you don't like Komugi but you are not bringing an actual narrative equivalent with Leorio. If you think he'd work you are not understanding the themes at all. |
Apr 12, 2020 6:27 PM
#67
ConnoisseurMike said: Can you really call yourself an anime fan, if you’ve never experienced the greatness that is LOTGH?? I don’t think so. You still trying to troll or are you unable to challenge criticism of your sacred show? Sounds like a rather casual tendency to make claims based solely off of entertainment value or emotional attachment but not have the knowledge to back them up. You said you gave up on your kind of trolling because people taking these copy-paste level comments seriously got boring for you, but is just knowing you posted them really any more entertaining for you? If you are the elitist you pretend to be at least offer interesting conversation sometimes. |
Apr 12, 2020 10:48 PM
#68
A_Sad_Dust_Cloud said: I don't think this is going to go down well, but okay. Ergo Proxy is one of the most painfully boring shows I've ever seen in my life. The characters and story honestly aren't that bad in isolation, but the animation and art style aren't enough to make it exciting. Everything is a dull grey and brown and it's paced like molasses, so when the stuff that's supposed to be shocking and exciting does happen, it doesn't land with the punch it needs to. I just sort of sit there and go "oh... okay. I could be watching something fun right now." It's not supposed to be fun, they used them colors because the show wants to convey to the viewer a sad and dark world. Same as texhnolyze, ergo proxy is trying to be a mystery anime with a bit of philosophy in regards to human life and the god-human relationship. And there aren't many shocking stuff in it, even the plot revelations are made that way to make the viewer stop and think about the situation. But I agree it's hard to watch. As for my hate, gintama doesn't need the serious arcs, they should't kept only the comedy, they fail with the battle arcs because all of the characters are spewing non sense random metaphors for everything. Even when people die it comes out weird. |
Apr 12, 2020 10:51 PM
#69
I thought he was gonna defend Sword Art Online lmaooo |
Apr 13, 2020 6:56 PM
#70
S-H-I-N-Y said: How is SAO incoherent? I thought most things in the show made sense and that it was kind of simplistic in many ways. Sword Art Online is an incoherent pile of mediocrity yet it still managed to be one of if not the most important anime of the 2010's through its enormous industry impact. |
Apr 13, 2020 7:06 PM
#71
Hunter x Hunter is one of the worst garbage ever lay on earth. Chimera Ant arc is abhorrent and the characterization is seinen wannabe. SAO is a conceptual masterpiece and those who think otherwise should receive capital punishments. No seriously, the hate for this series exceeds any form of annoyance. It's like Reddit raving over some nacho semen turd dung numbers and sucking cocks of some nice-man celebrity. Bunny Girl movie landing on #42 on MAL Top 100 is one of the most detrimental disasters ever happened here. Honestly how the fuck. |
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Apr 13, 2020 7:07 PM
#72
Peaceful_Critic said: How is SAO incoherent? I thought most things in the show made sense and that it was kind of simplistic in many ways. Now that I think about it I'm having trouble thinking of anything off of the top of my head, I may be misremembering and projecting my thoughts on the spinoff onto it. There were a few big inconsistencies in it that really bugged me. The biggest one of these being how everyone magically forgot how the meta build from SAO2 works and LLENN was able to run a train on everyone with it. This makes even less sense if they take place at the same time. |
Apr 13, 2020 7:13 PM
#73
S-H-I-N-Y said: Oh, oof, I only watched the first two seasons. I haven't seen the spin-off, so I can't really engage in that conversation. Was there anything else you disliked about the OG SAO?Now that I think about it I'm having trouble thinking of anything off of the top of my head, I may be misremembering and projecting my thoughts on the spinoff onto it. There were a few big inconsistencies in it that really bugged me. The biggest one of these being how everyone magically forgot how the meta build from SAO2 works and LLENN was able to run a train on everyone with it. This makes even less sense if they take place at the same time. |
Apr 13, 2020 7:19 PM
#74
This might be the thread with the most destructive potential of all time. How did noone else think of this. 10 million threads were made going "chimera ant bad" or "logh boring" or whatever but how did noone think of combining all the shitstorm opinions into one horrible, spiteful, grotesque package? Bravo I say. |
Apr 13, 2020 7:20 PM
#75
Peaceful_Critic said: Was there anything else you disliked about the OG SAO? The #1 thing I disliked was the gradual removal of stakes from the show. They were core to the show's premise and taking them away made it very underwhelming for me. |
Apr 13, 2020 7:26 PM
#76
I personally don't understand why people like HunterxHunter. The characters are generic and the beginning already bored me to death. Also the Tower of God animation is absolute trash. The voice was the only thing that was good. So far the MC annoyed the shit out of me. Boruto is a horrible series. They should've just ended Naruto right then and there. Ore Monogatari is a horrible romance anime. Death note is absolutely scary. Also confusing at times. Full metal Alchemist 2009 is better than the 2011 one. K-On is trash. Haruhi is trash. Any art that is like any of these are trash. Don't like any of those similar faces. The Gintama series is boring as hell. Also Kakegurui is unnecessary. Who in the world made that show? That's it for today I guess. |
『時間は限られています。時間は貴重です。今それを住んでいます。』 |
Apr 13, 2020 7:26 PM
#77
Opinions can't be wrong. If someone disliked something, they disliked it. |
Apr 13, 2020 7:40 PM
#78
S-H-I-N-Y said: In my personal experience of watching the show, that didn't really happen to me as the stakes seemed there. Peaceful_Critic said: Was there anything else you disliked about the OG SAO? The #1 thing I disliked was the gradual removal of stakes from the show. They were core to the show's premise and taking them away made it very underwhelming for me. Mainly because they started off the show by a ticking death toll and killing off what looked to be at the time prominent characters(who I genuinely thought the show would be about) after killing off the guild leader. So that straight away had me in the mindset they could and would kill off Kirito at any time. I then continued to the show where Kirito and Asuna had several near-death experiences, an episode dedicated to a guy who killed his wife, and then the death of Yui(another character that was built up to). So, by the time Kirito got the end with a character who he previously lost to and continued to do so relentlessly. I was pretty sold, that there was a high chance of dying. Like the last few times, he got close to dying he only survived because Asuna and others helped him. This time, however, the show couldn't pull that as the characters were paralyzed. I would note that him surviving for no reason made it clear to me that the protagonist wasn't ever going to die, but for the other characters, it still seems possible to me since once and awhile they would commit to actually killing off side characters. They even legitimately killed off Yuki later. |
Apr 13, 2020 8:12 PM
#79
Actor_Irelend719 said: Full metal Alchemist 2009 is better than the 2011 one. Is this FMA 2011? https://myanimelist.net/anime/9135/Fullmetal_Alchemist__The_Sacred_Star_of_Milos |
Apr 13, 2020 8:15 PM
#80
Nefelupitou said: There's another point about Gon that I find interesting In York Shin he's talking to Kuroro and he says something like "how can you kill innocent people?" And stuff. Later in Chimera Ants, in order to get his revenge, he's willing to let an innocent person die That's when I started to hate Gon. Like it was their own fault for entering their territory and his fault that Kite was killed. |
Apr 13, 2020 8:16 PM
#81
MajinSage said: Suzumita Haruhi no Yuuutsu is one of the Most Boring anime I've Ever Watched. I forgot what I gave it but looking back, it was pretty boring. The movie wasn't that good either in my opinion. But that's because I watched it a year ago and don't really remember it |
Apr 14, 2020 12:04 AM
#82
operationvalkyri said: Opinions can't be wrong. If someone disliked something, they disliked it. Uh... no. Why is this progressiveness thing makes people think having absolute liberty in any sort of opinion is fine? Opinions can definitely be wrong if it is baseless and/or constructed by a set of objectively wrong ideas, impressions and understanding. It's like saying "Hunter x Hunter's characters are awful because Gon kills my waifu unidentified gender cat ant", or "SAO bad because the circlejerk hate told me to think so" and state so-called "weaknesses" that don't even exist in the series, or "abortion is good/bad" without looking at it impartially and without the adequate knowledge. Yes those are all opinions, and they are wrong if you base your ideas upon the wrong rudiment and can't articulately elaborate your points. Opinions are subjective. But that doesn't mean you can have whatever the fuck opinion you want. To prevent from having the wrong opinion, one must not be baseless. In the end, maybe the wrong and correct opinion might give the same outcome, like "SAO is bad", but one is understandably subjective while the other is just flat out wrong. |
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Apr 14, 2020 1:46 AM
#83
Preachee said: I agree that opinions can be misguided, baseless, biased, what have you. What I object to is the use of the word "wrong" for an opinion. If someone says, "I don't like SAO," you can't respond to that by saying, "You are wrong," implying that you think the other person actually liked SAO, which they clearly didn't. You can ask them why and give your own opinion on that judgement, or question their assumptions. You can can't say that they are wrong. Was being pedantic about the word choice in the OP.operationvalkyri said: Opinions can't be wrong. If someone disliked something, they disliked it. Uh... no. Why is this progressiveness thing makes people think having absolute liberty in any sort of opinion is fine? Opinions can definitely be wrong if it is baseless and/or constructed by a set of objectively wrong ideas, impressions and understanding. It's like saying "Hunter x Hunter's characters are awful because Gon kills my waifu unidentified gender cat ant", or "SAO bad because the circlejerk hate told me to think so" and state so-called "weaknesses" that don't even exist in the series, or "abortion is good/bad" without looking at it impartially and without the adequate knowledge. Yes those are all opinions, and they are wrong if you base your ideas upon the wrong rudiment and can't articulately elaborate your points. Opinions are subjective. But that doesn't mean you can have whatever the fuck opinion you want. To prevent from having the wrong opinion, one must not be baseless. In the end, maybe the wrong and correct opinion might give the same outcome, like "SAO is bad", but one is understandably subjective while the other is just flat out wrong. |
Apr 14, 2020 2:40 AM
#84
NamikazeHime said: OT: Samurai Champloo is WAYYY better than Cowboy Bebop (and this comes from the fan of both series and die-hard fan of Shinichiro Watanabe). And this is coming from a guy who also rated champloo higher than bebop, stating that former is "WAYYY" better than latter is a farce claim. Bebop is set on a dystopian futuristic setting with a highly rich and expansive world where multiple mythical/legend beings exist. Am I gonna say the world-building in bebop was perfect? Hell no. But it's a plenty innovative setting that never had the need of showing how expandable it really is. Champloo has a down-to-earth historical setting where "samurai" exists. The setting is highly limited comparing to Bebop's, for better or worse depending on your preferences. The world is less dynamic and more chillsy. Both had a group of 3-4 poor humans as their main cast, trying to get money and making a living out of the so-considered "messed up" world. Bebop had more of a cult following because of the western-esk setting and supposedly better dubbing(I watched them both dubbed too, and I still prefer Bebop's). Also suffice to say that most of Watanabe fans would place Bebop crew higher than our Champloo's trio in terms of memorability and how iconic the lead cast was, unless you hated Ed(won't blame you if you did). I don't feel any need to consider which one's "better" to me since I treasure both, and they both have God-tier OSTs. Both had their good moments and different aspects that made them distinguishable to each other. I see Bebop as more of classic and respectable show than Champloo, but Champloo had a bigger impact on me. Stating one is in a much higher leagues than the other would seem rather childish and atrocious. Just say "I liked Champloo more coz reasons!" and that would be a more respectable opinion. Besides, the only reasons I can see why someone would place Champloo "WAYYY" higher than Bebop is if you prefer more of a relaxing setting in your episodic anime than the one with chaos and delusion. And the other reason being if you watched Champloo before Bebop, which is the correct one in my case (watched Champloo 3 years before Bebop, back when I was a highschool boy). OT: Higurashi anime was terribly handled. You had a decently intruiging plot executed in the most edgy way possible, which wasn't even shown that deliberately thanks to censorship. I haven't even read the VN but it's clearly a disappointing adaptation that I fail to see why people like to defend. |
ShitasteApr 14, 2020 2:59 AM
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Apr 14, 2020 2:55 AM
#85
Black Clover even with the okayish elf arc never got better. Its still the same shockly shounen from episode 1. Has the worst comedy I have ever seen in a shounen beating out Demon Slayer horrendous comedy. Sluggish pacing, annoying flat protagonist, Gary sue rival. Noelle and Yami should have been the main characters instead. Its such a shame because the world and side characters (minus Gauche) are interesting. Naruto Anime as a whole has aged poorly. Its a show its filled of contrivances. plot conveniences, plot holes, asspulls, unlikeable main characters (minus Kakashi), garbage pacing and shallow scprit. Play the storm games if you want to get into Naruto. |
Apr 14, 2020 3:00 AM
#86
Shitaste said: NamikazeHime said: OT: Samurai Champloo is WAYYY better than Cowboy Bebop (and this comes from the fan of both series and die-hard fan of Shinichiro Watanabe). And this is coming coming from a guy who also rated champloo higher than bebop, stating that former is "WAYYY" better than latter is a farce claim. Bebop is set on a dystopian futuristic setting with a highly rich and expansive world where multiple mythical/legend beings exist. Am I gonna say the world-building in bebop was perfect? Hell no. But it's a plenty innovative setting that never had the need of showing how expandable it really is. Champloo has a down-to-earth historical setting where "samurai" exists. The setting is highly limited comparing to Bebop's, for better or worse depending on your preferences. The world is less dynamic and more chillsy. Both had a group of 3-4 poor humans as their main cast, trying to get money and making a living out of the so-considered "messed up" world. Bebop had more of a cult following because of the western-esk setting and supposedly better dubbing(I watched them both dubbed too, and I still prefer Bebop's). Also suffice to say that most of Watanabe fans would place Bebop crew higher than our Champloo's trio in terms of memorability and how iconic the lead cast was, unless you hated Ed(won't blame you if you did). I don't feel any need to consider which one's "better" to me since I treasure both, and they both have God-tier OSTs. Both had their good moments and different aspects that made them distinguishable to each other. I see Bebop as more of classic and respectable show than Champloo, but Champloo had a much impact on me. Stating one is in a much higher leagues than the other would seem rather childish and atrocious. Just say "I liked Champloo more coz reasons!" and that would be a much respectable opinion. Besides, the only reasons I can see why someone would place Champloo "WAYYY" higher than Bebop is if you prefer more of a relaxing setting in your episodic anime than the one with chaos and delusion. And the other reason being if you watched Champloo before Bebop, which is the correct one in my case (watched Champloo 3 years before Bebop, back when I was a highschool boy). OT: Higurashi anime was terribly handled. You had a decently intruiging plot executed in the most edgy way possible, which wasn't even shown that deliberately thanks to censorship. I haven't even read the VN but it's clearly a disappointing adaptation that I fail to see why people like to defend. *girl 7 is a really good score in my book. I can't really relate to the words behind spoiler tag. Characters (main and the supporting ones) and story were more interesting for me, even known that the setting is nothing special.Setting in Bebop was interesting, but that alone will not change the fact that I liked every other aspect less than in Champloo. Also, I have watched Bebop months before Champloo. But I guess that de gustibus non est disputandum. |
Apr 14, 2020 3:20 AM
#87
No offense,But In my opinion, "Yagate Kimi ni Naru (Bloom Into You) shouldn't be as high rated as it is. Like i didn't get what they were trying to show in that. There were so many moments where i felt like dropping it. I would really appreciate it if someone would explain what this anime was actually about and why is this show so well rated? I'm not saying that the one's who liked the show have rated wrong score or whatever. I just don't get why people liked it so much |
Apr 14, 2020 3:29 AM
#88
HunterXHunter and FMAB are overrated because people give thier praise only through the prism of the end and not the whole, especially HunterXHunter have a lot bad moments but people remember good finish only . |
Apr 14, 2020 3:35 AM
#89
please, chimera arch wasnt the best arc, but it was likeable for certain reasons such as character developements |
Sonic X is basically an isekai |
Apr 14, 2020 3:38 AM
#90
I'm currently on episode 121 of Hunter X Hunter 2011 (first time watching), and am nearing the end of the battle of the Chimera ant arc. I think it's ok so far, this end fight isn't what I expected though (we haven't had the battle with the king or Gon yet). It hasn't been as good as the Greed Island arc or York New City arc imho, yet, there is more to come. |
Apr 14, 2020 3:58 AM
#91
Ramy_Stereo said: This might be the thread with the most destructive potential of all time. How did noone else think of this. 10 million threads were made going "chimera ant bad" or "logh boring" or whatever but how did noone think of combining all the shitstorm opinions into one horrible, spiteful, grotesque package? Bravo I say. Ummmm........ thank you....?? Maybe.........?? |
Apr 14, 2020 4:18 AM
#92
Cool idea. Only problem is; arguments do not end in one exchange between persons. This is why arguments about anime are held on their discussion pages and not in a mega thread. If statements were more general (ex. Enjoyment is a key factor in rating anime, thus anime like SAO are rated inappropriately.) then they would most likely still be better off as a separate forum post for people to give their opinion on the topic. Although from what I see, many people have said something along these lines already. Just thought I'd give my 2 cents, have a good day. |
Apr 14, 2020 4:22 AM
#93
Actor_Irelend719 said: I personally don't understand why people like HunterxHunter. The characters are generic and the beginning already bored me to death. Also the Tower of God animation is absolute trash. The voice was the only thing that was good. So far the MC annoyed the shit out of me. Boruto is a horrible series. They should've just ended Naruto right then and there. Ore Monogatari is a horrible romance anime. Death note is absolutely scary. Also confusing at times. Full metal Alchemist 2009 is better than the 2011 one. K-On is trash. Haruhi is trash. Any art that is like any of these are trash. Don't like any of those similar faces. The Gintama series is boring as hell. Also Kakegurui is unnecessary. Who in the world made that show? That's it for today I guess. There was no full metal alchemist in 2011.......... |
Apr 14, 2020 4:33 AM
#94
23feanor said: I'm currently on episode 121 of Hunter X Hunter 2011 (first time watching), and am nearing the end of the battle of the Chimera ant arc. I think it's ok so far, this end fight isn't what I expected though (we haven't had the battle with the king or Gon yet). It hasn't been as good as the Greed Island arc or York New City arc imho, yet, there is more to come. I agree on the fact that Yorknew arc is on par with Chimera but i can´t imagine Greed island being on the level of Chimera ant arc.That arc is way too lighthearted(at least by hunter x hunter standards when you compare it to the other arcs)for me to take it seriously,and i wasn´t into the videogame-esque mechanics at all.The card system was simply way too overcomplicated.The best part of that arc is easily the dodgeball match. |
SummerynApr 14, 2020 4:38 AM
Apr 14, 2020 4:34 AM
#95
XxobbsxX said: Cool idea. Only problem is; arguments do not end in one exchange between persons. This is why arguments about anime are held on their discussion pages and not in a mega thread. If statements were more general (ex. Enjoyment is a key factor in rating anime, thus anime like SAO are rated inappropriately.) then they would most likely still be better off as a separate forum post for people to give their opinion on the topic. Although from what I see, many people have said something along these lines already. Just thought I'd give my 2 cents, have a good day. Well I know ig but couldn't just make 100 separate forum posts the problem is 😰 |
Apr 14, 2020 4:40 AM
#96
Apr 14, 2020 4:56 AM
#97
Clannad is one of the most overrated series ever It had some good moments and arcs but mainly it felt like it was trying to make you cry more than telling a logical and good story, in which it succeeded and most people cried with it, but that doesn't change the fact that the plot just isn't good. Sadly people think it's great because it made them cry. smh p.s: I dropped the show midway into the second season. |
Apr 14, 2020 5:03 AM
#98
lol what kind of criticism is that, no show is 'necessary' in the first place. |
Apr 14, 2020 5:08 AM
#99
Missaliensan said: 23feanor said: I'm currently on episode 121 of Hunter X Hunter 2011 (first time watching), and am nearing the end of the battle of the Chimera ant arc. I think it's ok so far, this end fight isn't what I expected though (we haven't had the battle with the king or Gon yet). It hasn't been as good as the Greed Island arc or York New City arc imho, yet, there is more to come. I agree on the fact that Yorknew arc is on par with Chimera but i can´t imagine Greed island being on the level of Chimera ant arc.That arc is way too lighthearted(at least by hunter x hunter standards when you compare it to the other arcs)for me to take it seriously,and i wasn´t into the videogame-esque mechanics at all.The card system was simply way too overcomplicated.The best part of that arc is easily the dodgeball match. You're right, the card system in Greed Island was too complicated. The dodgeball match was fun, I'd forgotten all about that. I liked the training and character development we got to observe during the Greed Island arc, plus I loved Bisque's character, she was great. |
Apr 14, 2020 7:03 AM
#100
the monogatari series has no charm for me. i CANNOT get into it, no matter how hard i try, it holds no appeal to me. and the shows that are similar to monogtarai i ADORE. cowboy bebop... was kinda boring. i think it's just bc im not a fan of the whole sci fi genre and i dislike episodic shows but i wasn't paying attention most of the time. i do not understand why anyone would like diabolik lovers. it's TERRIBLE. if their was something akin to a plot or the slighest character development id understand but it was fucking bad jesus christ. mirai nikki was a fat mess. period. one punch man is incredibly boring. there was not a single funny scene and everything was predictable. being predictable isn't bad at all, but this was just overhyped FAR too much. saitama is boring as fuck. if s2 had better animation id of probably enjoyed it FAR much more. |
gintokisbicepApr 14, 2020 7:06 AM
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