Kimetsu no Yaiba Episode 19 Discussion

nutsie said:
As much as I love the animation and the soundtrack, I find it hard to ignore how little is explained and how much asspulling exists.

It's hard to be excited for Tanjiro and Nezuko when their moves came out of nowhere, there was no foreshadowing as the breathing techniques have been barely explained. There is no proper understanding of how it works. Tanjiro or even Inosuke yell their techniques and that's it. Imagine that when Naruto did his first Razegan, we never saw him training and failing to it. We never saw how hard it was for him to achieve it. That would completely butcher the moment where he finally manages to do it. That's how I feel regarding the moment of this episode. It looks and sounds greats, but it feels hollow.

Although I actually appreciated how fast the pace has been, the reality is that it came at a cost of building consistent rules of the world.

Novalise said:
What a VISUAL FEAST was this episode, completly carried me away, though i was botherd by that awfull power popped up outta nowhere at that moment.

sogegesoge said:
damn it. if they adapt the train demon arc this beautiful i’ll cry. tho i already cried in this ep. damn it. thankyou ufotable.

Jfs_ said:
Lmao the next episode would be like a middle finger to those people bitching about "Muh MC defeat Twelve moons because Huge-ass plot armor"

sogegesoge said:
damn it. if they adapt the train demon arc this beautiful i’ll cry. tho i already cried in this ep. damn it. thankyou ufotable.

nyariko said:
i agree that the explanation of the various breathing techniques and forms are shallow, but i disagree about their fire abilities being asspulls. asspulls (at least the way i see it) is when a writer writes themselves into a corner and they have to come up with some random bullshit to get themselves out of it, but tanjirou/nezuko's relation to fire, as well as their family's lineage, has been hinted at before. it's very very subtle, much to the point where it's completely understandable for people to not notice until its completely explained. the foreshadowing regarding his father and their unique breath technique could've been executed much better and more clearly, but it was definitely the author's intention for it to end up the way it did here. as the story continues, their heritage (tanjirou's forehead mark, his special sun earrings, the family working with coal, and the dance of the sun god) become major plot points.

in regards to the blood demon art, i can see why it's farfetched considering the lack of explanation about how arts are developed in the first place, but seeing as how she's always been special and that strong demons all seem to naturally develop their own techniques, it doesn't feel like an asspull to me.

i would agree that the timing of tanjirou's revelation about his father's dancing/breathing techniques being a disguised martial art form is convenient, but it doesn't enter the realm of an asspull for me.

Lel0uchZer0 said:

I don't care what comes afterwards i am saying that kaguya sama and dr stone already delivered more than kimetsu
This and ep 1 were the only really good episodes for kimetsu while for example kaguya sama had atleast 6 amazing episodes...yes different genres but i still find more depth in all kaguya sama characters than i find in any KnY character (the only good character being the badass from episode 1 (forgot his name) and inosuke

Lel0uchZer0 said:

It's called having a discussion..and if that makes you sad i am glad you have such a careless life to the point that this is the saddest thing you can think about lol

nutsie said:
I don't wanna discuss semantics, whether it's an asspull or not, my point is that it does not feel like it was earned.

I'm gonna compare it with another popular shounen: DragonBall Z. Imagine if the moment where Gohan goes SSJ2 happened without all the previous moments where his rage showed up: breaking raditz pod, destroying a moutain during piccolo's training, losing his mind after krillin is impaled by frieza, etc...

It would have been shitty. And we are talking about an anime where power levels exist and are ignored on a whim, but it still followed the crumbs of bread that were left behind.

It doesn't feel like it was built upon throughout the episodes. As you said, it is a bit too subtle. You cannot expect someone to remember something that a minor character said 10 episodes ago.

I also wonder if the subtitles are doing a good job at dismissing the disconnect that might exist, given how the show relies on japanese folclore. All the breathing techniques names are a mouthful, for example. Simplying things would have been better in a show that likes to do things in a subtle way.

I still like Tanjiro and Inosuke. Zenitsu not so much, but I just wish the show was more consistent.

euls said:
Even though I'm updated with the manga, I literally got teary eyed watching episode 19 ;-;
AaaAAAA ufotable did a great job.

Janethan23 said:


BTW... Did Nezuko spoke?

Lel0uchZer0 said:

When did i say i hated the episode? I loved the episode but the problem is people already elevate the whole series to a point it's beyond the joke

lostnspace said:
The entire budget was spent on this scene haha.

This was amazing no other way to put it. I like that we're getting some history to the Kamado family. I make sense now that a few episodes back someone recognized Tamajiro's appearance and earrings. Nezuko finally tapping into her true potential is bananas. Their fire powers combined was simply beautiful.

My only complaint: I'm kinda pissed that Tanjiro has had breathing training before but seemed to completely forget about it during all of his recent training...

Samoan said:
It look like people already forget the others episodes and They say this is the only good episode of course this is the best of them but there are others like Sabito vs Tanjirou fight in episode 3,Tanjriou vs Inosuke fight hand to hand in episode 14, Tanjirou fight in episode 16,Zenitsu’s fights in episodes 12 and 17 and others

Jfs_ said:
imo every others fight of this series is a solid 8/10, while zenitsu's fight in episode 17 is a 9/10, but this episode is just pure 10/10.

ExaltedChampion said:


In his defend, he never thought about using some thing pass down as a dance in combat. Only now does he realize his family legacy have some connection with the demon slayer.

nyariko said:
can definitely agree with that. the MC's strength increases in spikes rather than at a consistent pace, and while the plot allows for the spikes to occur in a way that makes sense, it's hard for it to feel natural.

the only thing i can say about the events of this episode at the very least is that the scale of power between the demons and demon slayers, as well as where tanjirou falls on that scale, has not been fully established yet. hopefully, further perspective on exactly how big of a power up tanjirou and nezuko just gained will ease some discomfort.

nutsie said:


I mean, even the Demon Slayer ranks are a bit iffy. That is my biggest pet peeve with the show, the lack of information.

Naruto did a good job with that.