| Honestly I don't see the point in arbitrary labels for stuff like that. Enjoy what you enjoy, who cares what other people call you? For the record though, a weeb is generally described as someone who actually wants to be/believes they are Japanese |
  300th pun xchyssa said: You got some nice viewpoint there, I always know I can't fool you with my sharpest tagging skills |
| "Otaku" is an uncommon way of saying "(one's own) house," in reference to people who never leave their house because they obsess over their hobbies. Watch this OVA and educate yourself: https://myanimelist.net/anime/785/Otaku_no_Video |
 This glorious signature image was created by @Mayumi! I am the Arbiter of Absolute Truth, and here is my wisdom: "Anime was always influenced by the West. This is not news. Shoujo is the superior genre primarily aimed at young people. Harem/isekai are lazy genres that refuse any meaningful innovation. There is no 'Golden Age.' There will always be top-shelf anime. You should be watching Carole & Tuesday." |
| Otaku isn't just tied to anime, what being an Otaku means is being obsessed with a certain subject, so much it affects your social skills. Things like Book Otakus exist. There's no real line to be quite honest. Weeb is also something commonly misused, it means someone overly fascinated with Japanese culture and putting it on a pedestal, and looking down on their own as inferior. |
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-NekoNya said: Zelkiiro said: "Otaku" is an uncommon way of saying "(one's own) house," in reference to people who never leave their house because they obsess over their hobbies. Watch this OVA and educate yourself: https://myanimelist.net/anime/785/Otaku_no_Video So is it like a "Hikikomori?" Or something that exist between the lines? "Hikikomori" literally means "to pull inward to seclude," and generally just refers to people who never leave their houses. It could be due to their hobbies, a la otaku, or it could be due to social phobias or illness or any number of reasons. "That person is a hikikomori." "Why?" "Because they're an otaku." |
This glorious signature image was created by @Mayumi! I am the Arbiter of Absolute Truth, and here is my wisdom: "Anime was always influenced by the West. This is not news. Shoujo is the superior genre primarily aimed at young people. Harem/isekai are lazy genres that refuse any meaningful innovation. There is no 'Golden Age.' There will always be top-shelf anime. You should be watching Carole & Tuesday." |
OnionKnightRises said: Otaku isn't just tied to anime, what being an Otaku means is being obsessed with a certain subject, so much it affects your social skills. Things like Book Otakus exist. There's no real line to be quite honest. Indeed; there is a scene in FMAB where Ed calls Winry a "machine otaku" and she throws "alchemy otaku" back in his face. xD 'Otaku' used to be a very potent insult (from being associated with terrible, terrible crimes committed by men who liked anime) but nowadays people have mellowed out about it. Weeb is also something commonly misused, it means someone overly fascinated with Japanese culture and putting it on a pedestal, and looking down on their own as inferior. THANK YOU. It's about damn time someone got it right. It's irritating how much people misuse this stupid label that I hate. lol |
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Chiibi said: OnionKnightRises said: Otaku isn't just tied to anime, what being an Otaku means is being obsessed with a certain subject, so much it affects your social skills. Things like Book Otakus exist. There's no real line to be quite honest. Indeed; there is a scene in FMAB where Ed calls Winry a "machine otaku" and she throws "alchemy otaku" back in his face. xD Also, in Otaku no Video (which I recommended above), the main character meets not only an anime otaku, but a sci-fi movie effects otaku, a military otaku, and a character/fashion designing otaku. |
This glorious signature image was created by @Mayumi! I am the Arbiter of Absolute Truth, and here is my wisdom: "Anime was always influenced by the West. This is not news. Shoujo is the superior genre primarily aimed at young people. Harem/isekai are lazy genres that refuse any meaningful innovation. There is no 'Golden Age.' There will always be top-shelf anime. You should be watching Carole & Tuesday." |
| Attention teenage anime fans who both have and do not have an account reading this post. DO NOT say: "I'm not a weeb, I'm an otaku!". Not only is that cringeworthy, but being an otaku is hardly a good label in itself..... Also, who cares if people buy anime merchandise. Every fandom collects merchandise if they love it enough. Anime merchandise is no worse than WWE or sports merchandise. |
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Kagami said: DO NOT say: "I'm not a weeb, I'm an otaku!". Not only is that cringeworthy, but being an otaku is hardly a good label in itself..... It's not a "bad thing" anymore. My favorite manga-ka, Arina Tanemura does it....what's "cringeworthy" about it? She has a great sense of humor. *shrugs* |
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| I think it means you are obsessed with a certain thing. A anime otaku knows a lot about anime. It is used as a derogatory word in Japan, but refers to someone as wise with a positive connotation in the west. |
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Chiibi said: Kagami said: DO NOT say: "I'm not a weeb, I'm an otaku!". Not only is that cringeworthy, but being an otaku is hardly a good label in itself..... It's not a "bad thing" anymore. My favorite manga-ka, Arina Tanemura does it....what's "cringeworthy" about it? She has a great sense of humor. *shrugs* Nothing funny about saying that. 99% of people aren't saying it to have a sense of humor. The line is commonly used when one is offended because they were called weeb and to try explaining what they are, they call themselves an otaku. At this point, the line itself is so cliche that its becoming overused. No need to justify being an anime fan to people and using a cringeworthy line like that. If someone calls you a weeb, using the otaku defense doesn't make said person look better. |
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| Otaku is a word used label anyone who's obsessed with anything, not only anime -- though in anime they make it seem like any anime fan can ending up getting labelled as an otaku, since being open about liking anime seems to be frowned upon in Japan. Depending where you're from, 'otaku' also just means anime fan. In Brazil for example it was very common for people to identify themselves as otaku until around 2014, when it started to become shameful. |
| Out of Japan means that you like anime. In Japan, that you are obsessed with something. Weeb it's just the weird people that loves Japan because of anime and they think that everything is perfect there... even tho they know shit about Japan. |
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Kagami said: Nothing funny about saying that. 99% of people aren't saying it to have a sense of humor. The line is commonly used when one is offended because they were called weeb and to try explaining what they are, they call themselves an otaku. At this point, the line itself is so cliche that its becoming overused. No need to justify being an anime fan to people and using a cringeworthy line like that. If someone calls you a weeb, using the otaku defense doesn't make said person look better. Lol I think you're getting way too worked up about something so trivial. Who really cares at this point? Besides, if they don't really think Japanese culture is better than all cultures yet obsess over anime, they're telling the truth because a "weeb" is likely an otaku but not all otaku are weebs. |
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Chiibi said: Kagami said: Nothing funny about saying that. 99% of people aren't saying it to have a sense of humor. The line is commonly used when one is offended because they were called weeb and to try explaining what they are, they call themselves an otaku. At this point, the line itself is so cliche that its becoming overused. No need to justify being an anime fan to people and using a cringeworthy line like that. If someone calls you a weeb, using the otaku defense doesn't make said person look better. Lol I think you're getting way too worked up about something so trivial. Who really cares at this point? Besides, if they don't really think Japanese culture is better than all cultures yet obsess over anime, they're telling the truth because a "weeb" is likely an otaku but not all otaku are weebs. Actually, the one getting worked up is you. Stop projecting. I am merely answering this thread. You are the one who took the time to quote me to justify your stance. If nobody "cares" then why are you quoting me and defending any stance at all? Projection. Call yourself what you want. I don't really care. You don't need to justify it to me and then pretend like I am getting worked up though. |
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Chiibi said: OnionKnightRises said: Otaku isn't just tied to anime, what being an Otaku means is being obsessed with a certain subject, so much it affects your social skills. Things like Book Otakus exist. There's no real line to be quite honest. Indeed; there is a scene in FMAB where Ed calls Winry a "machine otaku" and she throws "alchemy otaku" back in his face. xD 'Otaku' used to be a very potent insult (from being associated with terrible, terrible crimes committed by men who liked anime) but nowadays people have mellowed out about it. Weeb is also something commonly misused, it means someone overly fascinated with Japanese culture and putting it on a pedestal, and looking down on their own as inferior. THANK YOU. It's about damn time someone got it right. It's irritating how much people misuse this stupid label that I hate. lol I'm not sure people in Japan have mellowed that much from the word Otaku, I think it just stems from people in the west not understanding what Otaku means. Being called an Otaku in Japan is like being called a leech off of society, it can be a real heavy insult depending on it's use, but here in the States people just think it means you like anime. The negative connotation just kinda flew over everyone's heads because NEETs and shut-ins aren't nearly as numerous and problematic compared to Japan's problems with them. |
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OnionKnightRises said: I'm not sure people in Japan have mellowed that much from the word Otaku, I think it just stems from people in the west not understanding what Otaku means. Yeah, they have. I've been there somewhat recently and I've talked to Japanese people about it. Being called an Otaku in Japan is like being called a leech off of society, it can be a real heavy insult depending on it's use On the contrary, there is a video on youtube that interviews random citizens, asking them what they think of 'otaku' and they said "Otaku are good for the economy because they don't mind spending money." @Kagami: "Projecting".....wha? I don't think you're using that term correctly lol. |
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| if i’m correct in japan it’s mainly used for someone with a hobby that consumes their life so much they don’t interact with others or leave home, commonly used for someone obsessed with anime or computers or shit like that. if you have at least a little bit of a life outside of anime, trust me you’re not a real otaku |
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All right....but that's not what I was doing? And I thought you were getting worked up because you quoted me and were like "NO, IT'S NOT FUNNY RAWR". Not literally...but...you sounded super-irritated in your response or at the very least intolerant of the idea. |
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-NekoNya said: In the English-speaking world:I watch anime like 5 or less episode a day or just sometimes, not. I only watch those that I like and that's it. I also don't have any interest in buying figurines and such. Just a typical person who enjoys anime for what it is. I want to know what's the line of crossing a normal person to being an Otaku, and an Otaku being a "Weeb." I have a friend that just has posters, figures, Blu-rays, etc. I personally think that I'm fine with him having stuff but you see, he even bought a dakimakura the other day which made me look at him like I'm a joke to him. I ask him for anime and stuff and he recommends me some good ones but, I just wanna know where the line is. * "otaku" is a shorthand for "fan of anime, manga, and other stuff of this sort." Usually the implication is that they're more than just a casual fan in terms of the time/attention they've already sunk into it. * "weeb" used to mean "wapanese" or "white person who wants to be Japanese", but nowadays I've heard it used to basically mean "stereotypical otaku". This goes beyond just simply liking and being knowledgeable about anime and related topics -- this goes into specific stereotypes. For example, a friend of mine regards stuff like Record of Agarest of War as a "weeb" game. This is because it has: * cute anime girls as main characters * obviously fanservicey stuff -- panty shots, costumes with revealing clothing, boob jiggling, boob side jokes, etc. * J-pop/J-rock theme song with female vocalist * stereotypical anime presentation tropes such as big eyes, small nose and mouth, face faults, zettai ryouiki, etc. * stereotypical anime premise tropes like bland normal guy self-insert protag who gets a harem of cute girls all with very distinctive personalities ...you can see how this is starting to basically go down a list of "how would you make the most glaringly obviously stereotypical 'anime fan' thing ever". |
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Chiibi said: OnionKnightRises said: I'm not sure people in Japan have mellowed that much from the word Otaku, I think it just stems from people in the west not understanding what Otaku means. Yeah, they have. I've been there somewhat recently and I've talked to Japanese people about it. Being called an Otaku in Japan is like being called a leech off of society, it can be a real heavy insult depending on it's use On the contrary, there is a video on youtube that interviews random citizens, asking them what they think of 'otaku' and they said "Otaku are good for the economy because they don't mind spending money." @Kagami: "Projecting".....wha? I don't think you're using that term correctly lol. Huh, I stand corrected then. That second part is kind of odd to me though. Sure they spend a lot of money on their hobby, but aren't they commonly blamed for the declining birth rate? |
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OnionKnightRises said: but aren't they commonly blamed for the declining birth rate? Lol eh, it probably doesn't help...but I think that's a "general Japan problem". From what I've heard, Japanese women are focusing more on building careers than building families nowadays so the declining birth rate can be blamed on a number of contributing factors...just like how it is with large problems in any country. |
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| Otaku, weeb, etc are just a meme. That's all. |
| A lot of people here would define being an Otaku as a person who is obsessed with anything & everything Japanese. I'd call that being a weeaboo though. |
| I think of a weeaboo as someone who idealizes modern Japanese culture, but only at a surface level. Like someone who goes to Hawaii for a week and never leaves their hotel suddenly believes they're an expert in Polynesian culture. |
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