Israel has won the Eurovision song contest with pop star Netta Barzilai’s quirky entry Toy. The Israeli performer was awarded 529 points, beating favourites Cyprus into second place. Israel wins the Eurovision song contest 2018 – as it happened Read more The 25-year-old was singing with the Israeli Navy Band when she entered and won the country’s Eurovision selection show HaKokhav HaBa. The catchy electronic dance song entry had emerged as an early favourite to win the contest before bookies shortened the odds on her rival Cyprus’s Eleni Foureira. It is Israel’s fourth Eurovision win after coming first in Paris in 1978, winning in Israel the next year and most recently groundbreaking performer Dana International who was the first ever trans winner of the contest took home the trophy in 1998. Accepting her prize in the Altice Arena in Lisbon, Netta told the Eurovision hosts: “I’m so happy, thanks for choosing difference, thank you for celebrating diversity” Fans were charmed by the “chicken dance” moves of the choreography while some commentators have noted the song’s lyrics - “I’m not your toy / You stupid boy”- are apt for the first post #MeToo Eurovision. Shortly after her win the pop star tweeted: “Thank you Europe”. Eurovision fan JK Rowling, who had been tweeting throughout the show, called Netta “a worthy winner”. After managing to keep her cool in the midst of a stage invasion by serial invader Dr ACactivist, UK singer SuRie, came 24th out of 26 entries with 48 points in total after judges and public votes were combined. The 29-year-old was offered the chance to perform again after the self-proclaimed activist disrupted her performance, but she declined. Source  I haven't bothered watching the ESC for the past two years because A) it's become boring and B) Ukraine didn't deserve to win the 2016 contest but I sure as hell am going to watch the next year's contest because the political shitshowery is going to reach completely new levels. I'm kind of disappointed it wasn't Jimmy Jump that interrupted the British singer |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| Israel.....................=EUROVISION???????????????????????????????????????????? Israel....not in Europe???? Am I missing something. |
NudeBear said: Israel are part of the EBU so they're allowed to participate despite not being in Europe, much like countries like Morocco (though they only participated once in 1980) and Australia (technically they shouldn't have the right to participate since they're only an associate member but the ESC is so big there that the EBU decided to make an exception)Israel.....................=EUROVISION???????????????????????????????????????????? Israel....not in Europe???? Am I missing something. |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| I haven't watched it this year... The one I voted for last year ended up in last place..... The Netherlands didn't win in 2014 even though they should have..... But this song was pretty funny |
| Well, at this point why not remove EURO from the word Eurovision. |
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DeathNyx said: Eurovision is meant to include the greater cultural Europe and that also includes similar Western Countries like Israel, but also other Christian-coined Countries in the Caucasus and former Colonies of France. Well, at this point why not remove EURO from the word Eurovision. Haven't watched it live, but kudos to the Italian Performer for singing in Italian. Our whole Songs have become plain boring ever since we've started to sing only in English, which is why we cannot have something like Dschingis Khan's "Moskau" or Nicole's "Ein bisschen Frieden". Even music-wise, I feel like Pop Music has greatly regressed. I've almost got bleeding Ears from Israel's Performance. Else, read about the UK's Performance and the Song is compared to Israel's, Austria's and Germany's Entries much better, plus she showed quite the Professionalism. She deserved much, much better. |
Noboru said: You should bring back Djingis Khan TBHDeathNyx said: Eurovision is meant to include the greater cultural Europe and that also includes similar Western Countries like Israel, but also other Christian-coined Countries in the Caucasus and former Colonies of France. Well, at this point why not remove EURO from the word Eurovision. Haven't watched it live, but kudos to the Italian Performer for singing in Italian. Our whole Songs have become plain boring ever since we've started to sing only in English, which is why we cannot have something like Dschingis Khan's "Moskau" or Nicole's "Ein bisschen Frieden". Even music-wise, I feel like Pop Music has greatly regressed. I've almost got bleeding Ears from Israel's Performance. Else, read about the UK's Performance and the Song is compared to Israel's, Austria's and Germany's Entries much better, plus she showed quite the Professionalism. She deserved much, much better. |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Comic_Sans said: Yeah, that German-Hungarian Co-Operation is something where I would more than agree with Multiculturalism, also given their History. Some of the Hungarian Football Players in the "Golden Team" had German Roots.You should bring back Djingis Khan TBH btw.: The Song "Moskau" is quite well-suited for a Military Performance in Moscow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-JpluUqYKc |
Noboru said: DeathNyx said: Eurovision is meant to include the greater cultural Europe and that also includes similar Western Countries like Israel, but also other Christian-coined Countries in the Caucasus and former Colonies of France. Well, at this point why not remove EURO from the word Eurovision. Oh well, thx for the explanation. In any case i don't really follow the contest. But still, looks strange to see Isreal between all Euro countries. Also Giro d'Italia (Tour of Italy) started in Israel this year... |
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| Damn, seems like everything is Europe these days. |
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| I live in the Netherlands and I hoped that Netherlands would win and I am sad that they didn't won, but I am MORE MAD THAT DENMARK DIDN'T EVEN GOT INTO THE TOP 10 BECAUSE JUST LISTEN TO IT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeraDSzu0nw |
| @Noboru That's because Italy often sends the winner(s) of Sanremo (italian song festival) to Eurovision. The songs are all italian but sometimes they are slighty modified for the contest with some lines in english, like the refrain. (they are called eurovision version, never broadcasted outside of it) I think italian songs always lose because they put all their effort in the song only and not that much in the presentation, which is very important to the contest judges. You see, in Sanremo the "visual catchiness" of the presentation isn't evaluated and so singers don't even care: a big mistake in ESC. |
Ἄκουε δή, ἦ δ᾽ ὅς. φημὶ γὰρ ἐγὼ εἶναι τὸ δίκαιον οὐκ ἄλλο τι ἢ τὸ τοῦ κρείττονος συμφέρον.  Listen—I say that justice is nothing other than the advantage of the stronger. |
DeathNyx said: You're welcome and I find Israel a bit stretching, since I assume "European" as something of Christian Origin.Oh well, thx for the explanation. In any case i don't really follow the contest. But still, looks strange to see Isreal between all Euro countries. Also Giro d'Italia (Tour of Italy) started in Israel this year... Giro d'Italia was your Country's Tour de France-like Bicycle Race, right? @Trasimaco: Ah thanks for that Background Information. So you Guys have a national Pre-Contest. No Wonder why you get decent Songs. Though, I think, we also had one when Lena won the Contest. I believe that the Scores are mostly politically manipulated motivated. Otherwise, you cannot explain how a Song as bad as the one by Israel's Representative could win, while the much better Song of the Performer for the UK could gain only so little Points, despite her absolute professional Performance. |
| @Noboru I always thought ESC was a little bit rigged (since the last 10 years at least) because of political dietrology. Italy and UK are (were) secure allies with strong european sentiment so better let some other newcommers shine to improve relations. For the similar political reasons I think non-Euro countries were included. This very attitude is used in serious politics (honestly being butthurt about something as trivial as ESC is stupid) and is leading to the alienation of several countries. Italy is drifting away from Europe in the same fashion as the UK. Will EU survive a union without big countries like Italy and UK? (Pardom my OT, no need to answer) |
Ἄκουε δή, ἦ δ᾽ ὅς. φημὶ γὰρ ἐγὼ εἶναι τὸ δίκαιον οὐκ ἄλλο τι ἢ τὸ τοῦ κρείττονος συμφέρον. Listen—I say that justice is nothing other than the advantage of the stronger. |
Trasimaco said: That answers how Ukraine and Israel could win the ESC, but not how Germany could win the ESC 8 Years ago. Italy and UK are (were) secure allies with strong european sentiment so better let some other newcommers shine to improve relations. I mean, Lena's Song was alright and she had the Attractiveness Bonus, but she can't compare to Nicole who hit the Nerve of the Time with her Song about a little Peace. |
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Noboru said: Trasimaco said: That answers how Ukraine and Israel could win the ESC, but not how Germany could win the ESC 8 Years ago. Italy and UK are (were) secure allies with strong european sentiment so better let some other newcommers shine to improve relations. I mean, Lena's Song was alright and she had the Attractiveness Bonus, but she can't compare to Nicole who hit the Nerve of the Time with her Song about a little Peace. One explanation is that ESC became political only in the last few years, the other is I'm simply worng. |
Ἄκουε δή, ἦ δ᾽ ὅς. φημὶ γὰρ ἐγὼ εἶναι τὸ δίκαιον οὐκ ἄλλο τι ἢ τὸ τοῦ κρείττονος συμφέρον. Listen—I say that justice is nothing other than the advantage of the stronger. |
Trasimaco said: I wouldn't say you're completely wrong, it's just the Explanation you gave that wasn't satisfying. One explanation is that ESC became political only in the last few years, the other is I'm simply worng. First and foremost, it's been quite common for neighboring Countries to vote for their respective Neighbors and in Germany's Case to vote for Turkey, since there are so many Turks participating and obviously, they'll vote for their Homeland. Secondly, I would not exclude the Possibility that it was politically willed to have Germany win the ESC, especially to get more public Support in Germany for Europe, especially since it was at the Height of the European Debt Crisis. If anything, I would say that the Possibility of Germany going out of the EU is far more dangerous for it it than the UK and/or Italy exiting the EU, since more Countries in Europe are economically dependent on Germany, plus Germany is right in the Middle of Europe. Although, if not only the UK, but also Italy quits, then it will be hard to keep the EU from not breaking away. |
| Oh no, Israel won Eurovision. It's the end of the world! |
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Yep, and it's now the first major European tour to have started a route outside Europe. Pretty funny innit? |
DeathNyxMay 14, 2018 2:19 AM
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| I think Eurovision was better than usual this year tbh, quite a lot of good entries If it had been up to me I would probably have preferred Cyprus over Israel but they were both good. And I also think that while Netta's performance was fairly controversial, it was presented in a way which was actually fun to both watch and listen to, which was a pretty clear difference to the absolute political BS that Ukraine pulled when they won 2 years ago |
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DeathNyx said: It's rather sad than anything. That the Concept/Borders of Europe can be expanded is one Thing, but Italy is quite clearly depicted on Maps. Should have renamed it to "Giro a Italia" (or whatever the right Preposition for "to" [Country] is).Noboru said: Yep, and it's now the first major European tour to have started a route outside Europe. Pretty funny innit?Giro d'Italia was your Country's Tour de France-like Bicycle Race, right? |
youthful said: Idk why Italy even bothered coming back to this contest. They always have the highest chance to win yet are always unfairly treated since 2011. Turkey were smart for quiting. Italy actually quit for a long time. It particepated every single year from 1956 to 1993 (except for 1982) then stopped, returned in 1997 once and then definetely quit. No official reasons were given but it was quite obvious: no interest from italian viewers. In the 90's musical programs were in crisis and were cut. (Only Sanremo Festival went on without problems and for a fun fact ESC is based on it) Then Italy was caught in the X-Factor storm and suddendly eveyone watched musical programs. Broadcasters immediately thought back at the ESC as an opportunity to cash in. Italy came back in 2011 as one of the BIG FIVE, so actually we are one the major contributors to ESC. I think that until italians keep watching it, Italy will keep partecipating, no matter what the final results are. |
TrasimacoMay 14, 2018 11:43 AM
Ἄκουε δή, ἦ δ᾽ ὅς. φημὶ γὰρ ἐγὼ εἶναι τὸ δίκαιον οὐκ ἄλλο τι ἢ τὸ τοῦ κρείττονος συμφέρον. Listen—I say that justice is nothing other than the advantage of the stronger. |
| she mentions pokemon in her song, how could she not win :3 |
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