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Sep 2, 2009 11:21 PM
#151
I've seen it once. and revise each arc once. (besides Misae arc) that's about it. But I take stories seriously.. so yeah. NOTE: the reason I remember that Girl from another world call junk-bot "papa" is because I always thought she's Nagisa from another word... so it's rather surprising to me. |
AirStylesSep 2, 2009 11:33 PM
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Sep 2, 2009 11:23 PM
#152
AirStyles said: But I take stories seriously.. so yeah. So do I. But, goddamn.. well, I do watch alot of anime. So, I don't remember everything. |
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Sep 2, 2009 11:36 PM
#153
usasoldiern said: AirStyles said: But I take stories seriously.. so yeah. So do I. But, goddamn.. well, I do watch alot of anime. So, I don't remember everything. Lol, yeah, I forgets too, though rarely. It's a good idea to re-watch shows that you really enjoy in the past. I can still laugh at a lot of Seto no Hanayome jokes even though I've seen it twice. but idk 'bout he sang dango daikazoku song, when that happen? it's right before she send Tomoya back before calling him papa. She sang it and Junk-bot felt that he knew the song... just to make it clear, Junk-bot did not sang it to her, she sang it and said Tomoya sung it when she was little. I only seen this part once. |
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Sep 4, 2009 4:59 AM
#154
-Shio said: [quoteYour right, but it isn't as though Key is the only one to do it. Like Baman pointed out. But, to me, it isn't that big a deal to use similar themes or motifs. Hell, even the most famous directors and authors do it. It's fine if it's used once, but Key has a habit of using it too much. Key has a habit of using a number of plot devices too much. They also seem to love having vehicular accidents in their works. I don't know if maybe Jun Maeda was involved in some accident when he was young and it left and impression on him or what. Anyway is it just me or did Ushio and Tomoya not just accomplish most things on their own without the help of a light orb. I know it doesn't pay to dwell on what could have been, but in this case I still don't think that the light orbs subplot adds much of anything that is useful to the story that it could have accomplished just as easily without them and I still think they ultimately hurt it in the end. Tomoya and Ushio seemed like they were just getting ready to start getting along without Nagisa when the pathos hit yet again so....again I'm left to wonder why the light orbs/concious city (?) aspect of the story was at all necessary to this story. |
Sep 4, 2009 6:53 PM
#155
Just finished After Story. This deus ex machina ending makes me cry. Not for happiness or sadness, but the sheer unsatisfaction I have with the ending. Though I felt they had to do a deus ex machina since they had the other world in like the first season and it wouldn't have explained those "orbs of happiness" and Nagisa's mysterious illness (how it's vaguely connected with the city) either. *sighs* Would still be a 9 for me though, like the first season. |
Sep 7, 2009 9:26 PM
#156
CLANNAD IS STILL NUMBER ONE IN MY HEART EVEN IF YOU GUYS SAYS THAT IT ISN'T IN YOURS. |
Sep 7, 2009 9:30 PM
#157
AirStyles said: I've seen it once. and revise each arc once. (besides Misae arc) that's about it. But I take stories seriously.. so yeah. NOTE: the reason I remember that Girl from another world call junk-bot "papa" is because I always thought she's Nagisa from another word... so it's rather surprising to me. Yeah, I saw that aswell. Ushio called the robot "papa" and told the robot that he existed in both worlds. Ushio then sang the dango dango daikazoku song and told the robot that it was the song that he always sang to her. The robot can't be Nagisa since nagisa was already dead when Ushio was born and only Tomoya's the only one who sang it to her. |
Sep 9, 2009 12:40 PM
#158
Best anime of its Genre... Ever? Yup, imo it was/is awesome. And even if prequel (Clannad) was rather weak in comparison to visual novel, After Story is on the same level. Level of masterpiece. |
Sep 9, 2009 5:48 PM
#159
congrats for the first time ever AS reaches #1 ranked on MAL. There might be a backlash of some sort (like the #1 always gets cause of trolls) but hell at least people can say its happened |
Sep 9, 2009 6:27 PM
#160
game8910 said: congrats for the first time ever AS reaches #1 ranked on MAL. There might be a backlash of some sort (like the #1 always gets cause of trolls) but hell at least people can say its happened YESSSS!!!!!! Go Clannad ~AS~!!!!! |
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Sep 9, 2009 6:37 PM
#161
game8910 said: congrats for the first time ever AS reaches #1 ranked on MAL. There might be a backlash of some sort (like the #1 always gets cause of trolls) but hell at least people can say its happened People are already claiming that it's cos LotGH is getting trolled, but I don't see it... |
Sep 9, 2009 7:37 PM
#162
Sep 9, 2009 8:36 PM
#163
Might not be the best anime ever, but Clannad and Tomoyo After are some of the best Galges ever |
Sep 9, 2009 8:37 PM
#164
chinlamp said: game8910 said: congrats for the first time ever AS reaches #1 ranked on MAL. There might be a backlash of some sort (like the #1 always gets cause of trolls) but hell at least people can say its happened People are already claiming that it's cos LotGH is getting trolled, but I don't see it... It's not that LoGH is getting trolled, it's that there's lots more Clannad fans. |
Sep 9, 2009 9:35 PM
#165
-Shio said: chinlamp said: game8910 said: congrats for the first time ever AS reaches #1 ranked on MAL. There might be a backlash of some sort (like the #1 always gets cause of trolls) but hell at least people can say its happened People are already claiming that it's cos LotGH is getting trolled, but I don't see it... It's not that LoGH is getting trolled, it's that there's lots more Clannad fans. That is true. |
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Sep 9, 2009 10:02 PM
#166
chinlamp said: game8910 said: congrats for the first time ever AS reaches #1 ranked on MAL. There might be a backlash of some sort (like the #1 always gets cause of trolls) but hell at least people can say its happened People are already claiming that it's cos LotGH is getting trolled, but I don't see it... im not saying its because LoGH got trolled, im saying After Stpry COULD get down trolled now that it has the #1 mark on it. Even though I would never in my life call this a masterpiece I did enjoy this anime a lot |
Sep 10, 2009 12:04 AM
#167
-Shio said: chinlamp said: game8910 said: congrats for the first time ever AS reaches #1 ranked on MAL. There might be a backlash of some sort (like the #1 always gets cause of trolls) but hell at least people can say its happened People are already claiming that it's cos LotGH is getting trolled, but I don't see it... It's not that LoGH is getting trolled, it's that there's lots more Clannad fans. Actually no, it's because Clannad is the newest hyped up and popular Kyoani/Key adaptation series and as a result has legions of fanboys who won't hesitate to pump the show full of 10's in order to enforce their belief in the show being number one whereas the average LOGH (a show that is over 15 years old and most likely to be popular among the 20+ university age demographic with an interest in politics and social studies almost exclusively) fan probably just doesn't care that much about the show being recognized as number one by a highly manipulatable and ultimately insignificant popularity poll. They're too busy dissecting it and probably can't be bothered with a poll in a long line of polls akin to what can be found on ANN that is frankly more destructive than productive to the fandom because it turns the issue into a way to compete against rather than a way to appreciate and honour anime in the long run. It's funny because if all the Clannad fans who think the show is a masterpiece were really confident in that standpoint then they probably shouldn't need to express it in such a shallow manner (as some sort of vindication or something) in order to feel justified in their belief. They'd just feel it and that would be enough, kind of like how I feel that LOGH speaks to me far more than Clannad After Story ever did and thus will always place higher in my own personal scoresheet which is the only one that matters to me in the long run and with good reason. The sad thing is that this probably WILL result in a pointless vote/counter vote competition as you suggest because people have all but made it into a challenge with their reactions and commentary, and it will have nothing to do with what people like in a show or any sort of honest voting, but rather just the desire to see anything other than Clannad After Story in the #1 slot be it Gurren Lagann, LOGH, or whatever else is in a position to manipulate upwards. Yet is it ultimately going to result in more people coming to really watch and really appreciate either Clannad After Story or LOGH or anything else? Probably not...it more than likely going to be (is) as pointless as both the ending to Clannad After Story and the war between the Galactic Empire and the FPA combined. Oi.... |
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Sep 10, 2009 8:50 AM
#168
Kaioshin_Sama said: -Shio said: chinlamp said: game8910 said: congrats for the first time ever AS reaches #1 ranked on MAL. There might be a backlash of some sort (like the #1 always gets cause of trolls) but hell at least people can say its happened People are already claiming that it's cos LotGH is getting trolled, but I don't see it... It's not that LoGH is getting trolled, it's that there's lots more Clannad fans. Actually no, it's because Clannad is the newest hyped up and popular Kyoani/Key adaptation series and as a result has legions of fanboys who won't hesitate to pump the show full of 10's in order to enforce their belief in the show being number one whereas the average LOGH (a show that is over 15 years old and most likely to be popular among the 20+ university age demographic with an interest in politics and social studies almost exclusively) fan probably just doesn't care that much about the show being recognized as number one by a highly manipulatable and ultimately insignificant popularity poll. They're too busy dissecting it and probably can't be bothered with a poll in a long line of polls akin to what can be found on ANN that is frankly more destructive than productive to the fandom because it turns the issue into a way to compete against rather than a way to appreciate and honour anime in the long run. It's funny because if all the Clannad fans who think the show is a masterpiece were really confident in that standpoint then they probably shouldn't need to express it in such a shallow manner (as some sort of vindication or something) in order to feel justified in their belief. They'd just feel it and that would be enough, kind of like how I feel that LOGH speaks to me far more than Clannad After Story ever did and thus will always place higher in my own personal scoresheet which is the only one that matters to me in the long run and with good reason. The sad thing is that this probably WILL result in a pointless vote/counter vote competition as you suggest because people have all but made it into a challenge with their reactions and commentary, and it will have nothing to do with what people like in a show or any sort of honest voting, but rather just the desire to see anything other than Clannad After Story in the #1 slot be it Gurren Lagann, LOGH, or whatever else is in a position to manipulate upwards. Yet is it ultimately going to result in more people coming to really watch and really appreciate either Clannad After Story or LOGH or anything else? Probably not...it more than likely going to be (is) as pointless as both the ending to Clannad After Story and the war between the Galactic Empire and the FPA combined. Oi.... So your saying the value of family is not a worth while story when compared to politics? I think either one is important and, if anything, your coming off as a raging fanboy whose pissed off because LotGH isn't ranked #1. Me? I like them both, and I believe either story is as important as the other and both shows have their merits and are both worthy of a 10. I won't compare them, I will just bask in the awesomeness of both shows. Because, either way, I know i'm watching anime at it's best. |
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Sep 10, 2009 10:08 AM
#169
insan3soldiern said: Kaioshin_Sama said: -Shio said: chinlamp said: game8910 said: congrats for the first time ever AS reaches #1 ranked on MAL. There might be a backlash of some sort (like the #1 always gets cause of trolls) but hell at least people can say its happened People are already claiming that it's cos LotGH is getting trolled, but I don't see it... It's not that LoGH is getting trolled, it's that there's lots more Clannad fans. Actually no, it's because Clannad is the newest hyped up and popular Kyoani/Key adaptation series and as a result has legions of fanboys who won't hesitate to pump the show full of 10's in order to enforce their belief in the show being number one whereas the average LOGH (a show that is over 15 years old and most likely to be popular among the 20+ university age demographic with an interest in politics and social studies almost exclusively) fan probably just doesn't care that much about the show being recognized as number one by a highly manipulatable and ultimately insignificant popularity poll. They're too busy dissecting it and probably can't be bothered with a poll in a long line of polls akin to what can be found on ANN that is frankly more destructive than productive to the fandom because it turns the issue into a way to compete against rather than a way to appreciate and honour anime in the long run. It's funny because if all the Clannad fans who think the show is a masterpiece were really confident in that standpoint then they probably shouldn't need to express it in such a shallow manner (as some sort of vindication or something) in order to feel justified in their belief. They'd just feel it and that would be enough, kind of like how I feel that LOGH speaks to me far more than Clannad After Story ever did and thus will always place higher in my own personal scoresheet which is the only one that matters to me in the long run and with good reason. The sad thing is that this probably WILL result in a pointless vote/counter vote competition as you suggest because people have all but made it into a challenge with their reactions and commentary, and it will have nothing to do with what people like in a show or any sort of honest voting, but rather just the desire to see anything other than Clannad After Story in the #1 slot be it Gurren Lagann, LOGH, or whatever else is in a position to manipulate upwards. Yet is it ultimately going to result in more people coming to really watch and really appreciate either Clannad After Story or LOGH or anything else? Probably not...it more than likely going to be (is) as pointless as both the ending to Clannad After Story and the war between the Galactic Empire and the FPA combined. Oi.... So your saying the value of family is not a worth while story when compared to politics? I think either one is important and, if anything, your coming off as a raging fanboy whose pissed off because LotGH isn't ranked #1. Me? I like them both, and I believe either story is as important as the other and both shows have their merits and are both worthy of a 10. I won't compare them, I will just bask in the awesomeness of both shows. Because, either way, I know i'm watching anime at it's best. No, I am saying that a story about politics and war that also tackles some family issues (among many others) is more interesting to me personally than a story about moe girls, family issues and pathos because I am extremely interested in macro level political intrigue stories real or fiction. Hence the phrasing "speaks to me" and not simply "speaks". I'm not pissed off in the slightest because a) I'm just not and b) the global list while interesting always comes second to the personal list of favourites to an individual such as myself. Finally I don't recall ever saying Clannad was not a worthwhile story in any part of my post. I don't know where you pulled that one from. |
Sep 10, 2009 6:53 PM
#170
insan3soldiern said: Kaioshin_Sama said: -Shio said: chinlamp said: game8910 said: congrats for the first time ever AS reaches #1 ranked on MAL. There might be a backlash of some sort (like the #1 always gets cause of trolls) but hell at least people can say its happened People are already claiming that it's cos LotGH is getting trolled, but I don't see it... It's not that LoGH is getting trolled, it's that there's lots more Clannad fans. Actually no, it's because Clannad is the newest hyped up and popular Kyoani/Key adaptation series and as a result has legions of fanboys who won't hesitate to pump the show full of 10's in order to enforce their belief in the show being number one whereas the average LOGH (a show that is over 15 years old and most likely to be popular among the 20+ university age demographic with an interest in politics and social studies almost exclusively) fan probably just doesn't care that much about the show being recognized as number one by a highly manipulatable and ultimately insignificant popularity poll. They're too busy dissecting it and probably can't be bothered with a poll in a long line of polls akin to what can be found on ANN that is frankly more destructive than productive to the fandom because it turns the issue into a way to compete against rather than a way to appreciate and honour anime in the long run. It's funny because if all the Clannad fans who think the show is a masterpiece were really confident in that standpoint then they probably shouldn't need to express it in such a shallow manner (as some sort of vindication or something) in order to feel justified in their belief. They'd just feel it and that would be enough, kind of like how I feel that LOGH speaks to me far more than Clannad After Story ever did and thus will always place higher in my own personal scoresheet which is the only one that matters to me in the long run and with good reason. The sad thing is that this probably WILL result in a pointless vote/counter vote competition as you suggest because people have all but made it into a challenge with their reactions and commentary, and it will have nothing to do with what people like in a show or any sort of honest voting, but rather just the desire to see anything other than Clannad After Story in the #1 slot be it Gurren Lagann, LOGH, or whatever else is in a position to manipulate upwards. Yet is it ultimately going to result in more people coming to really watch and really appreciate either Clannad After Story or LOGH or anything else? Probably not...it more than likely going to be (is) as pointless as both the ending to Clannad After Story and the war between the Galactic Empire and the FPA combined. Oi.... So your saying the value of family is not a worth while story when compared to politics? I think either one is important and, if anything, your coming off as a raging fanboy whose pissed off because LotGH isn't ranked #1. Me? I like them both, and I believe either story is as important as the other and both shows have their merits and are both worthy of a 10. I won't compare them, I will just bask in the awesomeness of both shows. Because, either way, I know i'm watching anime at it's best. Good point. But just have to add that while both anime are awesome, it is easy to see why Clannad has the strong following it does. I actually found LOGH extremely difficult to get into 6 episodes through. It was slow, tedious, boring; trying to hard to impress with its political intrigue. In all honesty, it felt like a history lesson more than an anime, albeit with a rather dull and uninteresting presentation, not to mention the graphics and presentation didn't help its case the least. Of course, I admit I am rather harsh to this series and perhaps should watch more of it before I can pass my judgement but that's the way I see it. Also, expect the LOGH fanboys and anti-key/Kyoanis to come raging any minute now, trying to convince the world that Clannadism is nazism; voting this show down just to prove that theirs is the only opinion worth noting, not that it matters. |
Sep 10, 2009 8:35 PM
#171
CLANNADISM IS NAZISM AND IM GOING TO TROLL THIS SERIES DOWN BECAUSE LOGH IS SO DEEP. |
Sep 10, 2009 8:46 PM
#172
R2 still up there in MAL top 10 anime...CHECK *resets setting to current default* Setting reset to "Don't give a dam anymore". Ultimately, it all boils to how to win a popularity contest. |
Sep 10, 2009 9:17 PM
#173
PreciseAsian3 said: I actually found LOGH extremely difficult to get into 6 episodes through. It was slow, tedious, boring; trying to hard to impress with its political intrigue. In all honesty, it felt like a history lesson more than an anime, albeit with a rather dull and uninteresting presentation, not to mention the graphics and presentation didn't help its case the least. Of course, I admit I am rather harsh to this series and perhaps should watch more of it before I can pass my judgement but that's the way I see it. Also, expect the LOGH fanboys and anti-key/Kyoanis to come raging any minute now, trying to convince the world that Clannadism is nazism; voting this show down just to prove that theirs is the only opinion worth noting, not that it matters. Kind of like how I found much of Clannad unfunny, overwrought, blasé, and to be trying to hard to impress with visuals and moe girls. In all honesty it felt like a soap opera, albeit with a rather forced and idealistic presentation, not to mention the ending didn't help it's case in the least. Then again I obviously prefer political intrigue to overwrought comedy and drama (as I personally recognize Clannad to be) so while I enjoy parts of Clannad, it's unlikely I will ever see it to be as interesting as LOGH or Crest/Banner of The Stars. It's funny, because when I said fanboys were trying to prove something by crowing about this series being in the top slot on MAL I was only kidding, but... PreciseAsian3 said: STOP HATING/COMPLAINING ON THIS SHOW. It is # 1 and the fans have proven it. Its widely appreciated so please do the same. I didn't actually believe that people expected me and other critics to just magically drop our personal position on the show just because it found it's way to the top of a popularity poll. I'm sorry, but if people expect others who were less receptive of the show to throw away their own feelings towards Clannad because of this then they are in for a rude awakening. This is the kind of rhetoric that only invites confrontation and trolling as opposed to converting others to a cause like people seem to think it will. I have mixed feelings towards Clannad and that's not going to change overnight because of fanboys and popularity polls. Maybe people ought to just accept that instead of trying to force people to worship the show through such a weak method of reasoning. |
Sep 11, 2009 3:41 AM
#174
Nayah said: R2 still up there in MAL top 10 anime...CHECK *resets setting to current default* Setting reset to "Don't give a dam anymore". Ultimately, it all boils to how to win a popularity contest. Jesus Christ, this. It shows that the list should NEVER be taken seriously. |
Sep 11, 2009 3:42 AM
#175
Kaioshin_Sama said: tl;dr ... more tl;dr No, I am saying that a story about politics and war that also tackles some family issues (among many others) is more interesting to me personally than a story about moe girls, family issues and pathos because I am extremely interested in macro level political intrigue stories real or fiction yet 3 more tl;dr posts.... Geez, talk about taking things personally. Other than the grammar butchering and extremely lopsided categorization, as you have pointed out, these personal opinions are just that: personal. I find LOGH to be a good anime, albeit rife with pacing issues and hackneyed plot, yet you don't see me going to the LOGH fanclub writing a 3 page essay to harass you guys about how it's overrated. See, this is exactly the type of rabid fanbase I am talking about; in every popular MAL anime club I've seen, there's always at least a few posts about how LOGH lovers are beings of higher intellectual levels. Everyone who doesn't hail LOGH as the epitome of visual medium are either blind, deaf, retarded, or all of the above. I get the point. Now, please redirect your passion back to your LOGH fanclubs; that's what they're there for. |
Sep 11, 2009 5:31 AM
#176
Kaioshin_Sama said: Now, I'll agree bout Clannad AS obviously being overhyped because of moeloving fanboys, and I'd certainly like to believe your thoughts on the LoGH fans, at least the majority of us.Actually no, it's because Clannad is the newest hyped up and popular Kyoani/Key adaptation series and as a result has legions of fanboys who won't hesitate to pump the show full of 10's in order to enforce their belief in the show being number one whereas the average LOGH (a show that is over 15 years old and most likely to be popular among the 20+ university age demographic with an interest in politics and social studies almost exclusively) fan probably just doesn't care that much about the show being recognized as number one by a highly manipulatable and ultimately insignificant popularity poll. They're too busy dissecting it and probably can't be bothered with a poll in a long line of polls akin to what can be found on ANN that is frankly more destructive than productive to the fandom because it turns the issue into a way to compete against rather than a way to appreciate and honour anime in the long run. But one can't deny that there are some LoGH fans that troll the ratings too. Unsporting and silly indeed, but nevertheless a fact. PreciseAsian3 said: I'll try to not assume the worst about people, and conclude that this is a troll comment.STOP HATING/COMPLAINING ON THIS SHOW. It is # 1 and the fans have proven it. Its widely appreciated so please do the same. Nayah said: Indeed so. As Kaioshin wrote, a deeper and more thoughtful series like LoGH obviously appeal to a similarly thoughtful audience, whereas easy peripheral appeal with moe, fanservice and melodrama easier appeals to a wider spectrum of less critical viewers.R2 still up there in MAL top 10 anime...CHECK *resets setting to current default* Setting reset to "Don't give a dam anymore". Ultimately, it all boils to how to win a popularity contest. It's like this in every industry. Just look at the pop music for example. Most of that sells because it utilize easy and catchy rhythms or music videos with lots of chicks, not because the music itself is actually good. |
Sep 11, 2009 8:04 AM
#177
LotGH just got up trolled, now they're 9.05 ratings. I'm sure they'll stay up for a while longer, but that's okay ^_^ Clannad made it. |
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Sep 11, 2009 10:45 AM
#178
Haylias said: Nayah said: R2 still up there in MAL top 10 anime...CHECK *resets setting to current default* Setting reset to "Don't give a dam anymore". Ultimately, it all boils to how to win a popularity contest. Jesus Christ, this. It shows that the list should NEVER be taken seriously. I wouldn't say that. Hajime no Ippo could never win a popularity contest. Yes there are plenty of anime that are on that list because of popularity, but not all of them. |
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Sep 11, 2009 2:13 PM
#179
Who cares about popularity, people rate it high just because it's amazingly good Now that LOGH is first once again, using its mystic powers ( hurr durr let me guess) stop complaining and raging and trolling you whiny morons |
Sep 13, 2009 7:54 AM
#180
#2 is not bad anyway.. i think it's already impossible to ~AS~ to get more rating since it has been rated by almost 30000 members wow 9.05? LOGH is got a cool rating, make me interested what's that anime about? but 110 chapters??? ==' |
Sep 13, 2009 11:30 AM
#181
setsuna91 said: Check the reviews. And 110 episodes isn't really that much when you compare it to other multi season series. And it's also all filler free at that.wow 9.05? LOGH is got a cool rating, make me interested what's that anime about? but 110 chapters??? ==' |
Sep 13, 2009 2:43 PM
#182
Why are people still comparing LoGH and Clannad on this thread? Clannad doesn't even focus on space-opera, military strategies, politics, and several other genres while this thread is especially stated as "best of its GENRE". |
Oct 4, 2009 11:53 AM
#183
I'd say yes. As long as it's AS. Marathoned it today, and thus today was the day in my life I cried the most. It managed to hit me with real life packed into anime; I could so easily feel with the characters and their problems and struggles. Their despair, hard efforts and happiness, my mood was swooped up by the series! |
Dec 5, 2009 12:21 PM
#184
...Well, whaddayaknow, it seems that (for now) Clannad AS has taken the #1-spot on the top anime-list. ...That's pretty awesome. |
Dec 25, 2009 11:35 PM
#185
Foreward: this is my favourite anime ever, which is probably why tearing it apart is kind of fun, as opposed to being dull and horrible like tearing apart Green Green. The last few episodes could be considered the best of its genre. The rest of it? No way. It slowed down way too much and waited for an opportunity to show its brilliance, with no foreshadowing save for an ambiguous metaphor that failed to develop any emotional connection to us. Actually, allow me to rant about that for a minute: The whole point of abstract is to create an artistic connection that doesn't necessarily need to be expressed through clear language. It's really more like something we feel and respond emotionally to. Impressionist art is all about that, and it's one of the reasons that movement was so successful and still influential. However, if you try to take an ambiguous concept and present it to us in an ambiguous manner, creating ambiguous feelings that make us think up ambiguous thoughts that make us sick of the word ambiguous? Doesn't work so well; comprehending something intellectually is something an audience generally doesn't do well. Quite frankly, I'm not sure what they were trying to do with it, but it kinda sucked for a while. However, it ended up being awesome later on. Anyway, on to the praise: creative (er, I guess...kind of), well animated, well acted, well written, powerful, immersive, artistic, warm, and real, this is probably one of the few stories that has ever affected me so strongly, and I have yet to come across another anime that I can offer such strong praise to. PS. Ryou sucks. I love Nagisa. There, I said it. :3 |
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Dec 26, 2009 12:29 AM
#186
Grmo said: PS. Ryou sucks. I love Nagisa. There, I said it. :3 You expect to get flame for dissing Ryou? You'll be in more trouble if you disses Kyou or Tomoyo, but you'll be in a world of shit if you flame Ushio. |
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Dec 26, 2009 11:53 AM
#187
AirStyles said: Grmo said: PS. Ryou sucks. I love Nagisa. There, I said it. :3 You expect to get flame for dissing Ryou? You'll be in more trouble if you disses Kyou or Tomoyo, but you'll be in a world of shit if you flame Ushio. hahaha, I know. I was just adding my comments to the everlasting battle of "which Clannad girl is the best?". and yes, Ushio is great. Her character was so well done, and so lovable. I think she actually boosted the series, although that might be an overstatement to some. |
Dec 26, 2009 1:20 PM
#188
The ending was a joke though. Complete shit. |
Dec 26, 2009 2:54 PM
#189
Drunk_Samurai said: The ending was a joke though. Complete shit. I remember thinking it was a bit weird, but I don't really remember not liking it. What didn't you like about it? |
Dec 26, 2009 4:19 PM
#190
Grmo said: Drunk_Samurai said: The ending was a joke though. Complete shit. I remember thinking it was a bit weird, but I don't really remember not liking it. What didn't you like about it? They should have stayed dead. Fuck that no reason happy ending bullshit. |
Dec 27, 2009 11:25 AM
#191
As humour goes I prefer Lovely Complex. As Drama and Emotion goes I prefer Kanon 2006 but dont get me wrong Clannad is very good in both these respects, I just prefer my two choices in their particular fields!! |
Mar 9, 2010 2:16 AM
#192
Hell yeah. And fuck off, haters. |
Mar 9, 2010 5:11 AM
#193
Mar 20, 2010 2:08 PM
#194
Clannad AS was a very good Anime for me, but not the best. I liked KGNE better. |
Mar 22, 2010 6:40 AM
#195
HELL YEA! I mean, I like to see another anime of this genre pull off a whole season on an after story, and execute it this well. I mean, there are animes such as Toradora which was super awesome, but I don't think another anime can pull off what after story did, but that's my opinion |
Mar 23, 2010 10:08 AM
#196
The best of all aired anime so far according to MAL and myself, so it wasn't hard to answer. |
Mar 24, 2010 2:58 AM
#197
aswani said: The best of all aired anime so far according to MAL and myself, so it wasn't hard to answer. Have you seen every anime ever made to properly judge such a thing? Has anybody? The answer is likely no for obvious reasons and because of that I wish people would stop making bold fanboyish statements such as yours when there's no way to justify them. Especially since the MAL database doesn't even have a record of every single anime ever aired to date making the statement complete nonsense right off the bat. Also rankings cases such as MAL's aren't a statistical proof of the "best" anime versus every other one, they are just an aggregation of the scores people have given shows themselves that are then averaged out and rounded off. Psychodrake said: Clannad is probably the best anime I've ever watched, which isn't many but I've seen some damn good ones. I just can't find error in it. KyoAni nailed it. See now that's far more reasonable and within the realms of possibility to qualify. Of the anime you've watched you've found it to be the best, but not only that you admit you haven't seen too many which helps to add perspective to your statement. Pretty straightforward and defendable position. |
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Mar 25, 2010 12:46 AM
#198
Kaioshin_Sama said: aswani said: The best of all aired anime so far according to MAL and myself, so it wasn't hard to answer. Especially since the MAL database doesn't even have a record of every single anime ever aired to date making the statement complete nonsense right off the bat. . What? Are you sure? |
Mar 25, 2010 12:55 AM
#199
Kingwel said: Kaioshin_Sama said: aswani said: The best of all aired anime so far according to MAL and myself, so it wasn't hard to answer. Especially since the MAL database doesn't even have a record of every single anime ever aired to date making the statement complete nonsense right off the bat. . What? Are you sure? I'm sure, there are some anime that I couldn't find here... |
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Mar 26, 2010 1:37 AM
#200
The only thing I've cried to while watching T_T |
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