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| Extremely lack luster but honestly what I expected. Oh well I suppose it's good for new fans and just to have some LotGH to watch. I'm watching Gaiden at the same time so I get a bit of the old as well |
| I've always planned on watching Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu, and suddenly they come out with a modern adaptation -- bam, I'm in. I thought it was pretty good first episode. As far as I'm concerned I remember them saying this is adaptation NOT a remake-- so I really dislike it when people rate it low because it's not the same as the "original" version instead of viewing it as a completely separate adaptation. Heck, I would be thrilled if one of my favorite older animes came out with a modern adaptation-- that way the watchers would have an interest with the older versions. |
KilikcliaApr 4, 2018 11:57 PM
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| I lowered my expectation to be as low as possible and it works (-) Character design for young main characters are indeed bad. (+) However, older generic characters are actually pretty good. (-) CGI battle too close up (+) New formation map hologram is actually quite cool (-) Reindhard VA can't compete with original (+) Yang Wenli sounds nice from little bits that I heard (-) Quick pacing, less weight/stake/technical details (+) Flows pretty good, less spoilers from Mr. Narrator. Should be more suitable for modern audience. |
| It's nice to see so many people liking this episode and getting hooked with the series after watching it. After rewatching it intensly i went from "weak plot-wise" to "quite enjoyable" (it is difficult to get rid of 11/10 original OVA lenses), and well I put original series on hold for few months after being bored to hell by the intro movie XD What has to be said is that lot of effort is being put into this new adaptation, it's clearly visable and definitely something to appreciate. |
| Looks like it's honestly far more decent than I had imagined around two or four months ago. I see that many people are ranting about this and complaining about it being far too short than the original OVA though, but as of E01, it's done just right. Nothing's rushed that bad and the plot's progression is just done right. (Imperial fleet attacks -> FPA fleet in pure confusion-> FPA fleet gets crushed). All done swiftly and w/o any shittiness in it. Feeling bad for Jean Robert for having not that much screen time though. Got a feeling that the next episode will be all about Yang's/FPA's POV. |
kimilljong92Apr 5, 2018 3:52 AM
| it's pretty decent so far, but nostalgiafags will always angry anyway. but yeah i dislike reunthal and cazzelnu's design but the rest are pretty good, in fact i like the new fahrenheit more. i need to get used to FPA's ship designs but imperial's designs are cool. Also the OP and ED are good. |
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| just happy to see reinhard and wenli again |
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zeroyuki92 said: idk about the pacing part, the OG first 2 episodes had way more stuff added in and quick scenes than this one(which is just Reinhard, I wouldn't be surprised if next episode goes back and shows the battle from the start...but in the FPA's perspective)I lowered my expectation to be as low as possible and it works (-) Character design for young main characters are indeed bad. (+) However, older generic characters are actually pretty good. (-) CGI battle too close up (+) New formation map hologram is actually quite cool (-) Reindhard VA can't compete with original (+) Yang Wenli sounds nice from little bits that I heard (-) Quick pacing, less weight/stake/technical details (+) Flows pretty good, less spoilers from Mr. Narrator. Should be more suitable for modern audience. |
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| The main difference is that it's a lot more streamlined, lining up the events as necessary instead of showing all the cards from the very beginning. If my memory doesn't fail me, in the first episode of the original OVAs they introduced almost every major characters, including Oberstein, Reuenthal and Mittermeyer. Also Reinhard was keenly aware of Wenli from the very beginning, which for me is the biggest difference story-wise, even as he's smashing the first fleet, he's constantly reminding himself to be cautious because Yang could maybe pull something unexpected on him. |
| As someone who watched the original, I have many problems with the first ep, such as Lohengramm and Seigfried not knowing who Yang Wenli is and how it isn't immediately obvious that Lohengramm and Seigfried are childhood friends and extremely close. Instead, it would likely seem to the new viewer that they are good friends, but certainly not as close as they are in the original. While I am fine with the new adaptation taking liberties, them being super close is an incredibly important plot point that must not be changed. Hopefully, their relationship will become more obvious in ep 2. That said, the rest of it looks great. I was a little confused as to where in the timeline they started ep 1 in but I think I have the gist of it. |
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kurikinton said: just happy to see reinhard and wenli again True AiHikari said: Also, Reinhard was keenly aware of Wenli from the very beginning, which for me is the biggest difference story-wise, even as he's smashing the first fleet, he's constantly reminding himself to be cautious because Yang could maybe pull something unexpected on him. Yeah, I was confused by that as well |
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| What a time to be alive! *Buckles up for the season* |
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| I kind of like this better than the original episodes. But, I don't think that's all that weird considering the original episodes were not great and Overture to A New War was in a whole other ball park. I'm not sure about the character designs, but I like the voices so far though I definitely miss the softer voice Reinhard had in the original. Anyway, it's just one episode but I'm pretty hopeful so far. |
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Eugenefindit said: Again, speaking as a first-timer, so I don't fully understand all the hate but I can see how the shortening from 110 to 12 episodes could present a potential problem. ^_^ Iirc, I don't think they are shortening it at all. They are just adapting first novel into these twelve episodes, then some movies, and then we'll see how it goes from there I guess. The thing is, I'm not sure how much the first season of the OVA (26 eps) adapted, if it was also just one novel then I may actually be a bit worried. But, I think this first ep was actually slower than the first ep of of the first series and it only did one of the two sides so I'm hopeful. |
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Ston3_FreeN7 said: The first series did about a novel a cour also(10 volumes in total)Eugenefindit said: Again, speaking as a first-timer, so I don't fully understand all the hate but I can see how the shortening from 110 to 12 episodes could present a potential problem. ^_^ Iirc, I don't think they are shortening it at all. They are just adapting first novel into these twelve episodes, then some movies, and then we'll see how it goes from there I guess. The thing is, I'm not sure how much the first season of the OVA (26 eps) adapted, if it was also just one novel then I may actually be a bit worried. But, I think this first ep was actually slower than the first ep of of the first series and it only did one of the two sides so I'm hopeful. |
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Eugenefindit said: Again, speaking as a first-timer, so I don't fully understand all the hate but I can see how the shortening from 110 to 12 episodes could present a potential problem. ^_^ 110 to 12? What the heck boy? afaik there are probably three movies (maybe also considered as OVAs) which will serve as a continuation to the current tv series. OR even more if the series and the movies get successful. It's kinda unbelievable though, but it had to be done. Maybe it's just for the sake of cutting the budget allocated for the anime? That CGI during the battle seems to be done by highly paid and talented staff. But it depends of the success of this anime though. Like the series only serves as a hype-booster so it could gain a following then they'd rake in the revenue gained from the movies, merch, etc. Come to think of it though, the series tries to be unique as possible from the 1980s OVA by presenting an entire new way to present the story (that's why it's called "die NEUE these", whatever). Who knows? If the anime maintains its consistency in quality, pacing, plot etc. it might even become a worldwife hit... even becoming the Star Wars of the Orient? |
SenpaiJay98 said: idk about the pacing part, the OG first 2 episodes had way more stuff added in and quick scenes than this one(which is just Reinhard, I wouldn't be surprised if next episode goes back and shows the battle from the start...but in the FPA's perspective) I think fast pacing might be a poorly chosen word. I think the more suitable word would be streamlined. By cutting most introductions and reactions from the opposing side (sans the dying admirals) and having a relatively short break between events, it made the flow smoother but reducing the impacts of every events. Of course, if they multiplied the details in the second episode by doing a perspective switch AND a backtrack, that should become an entirely different presentation and actually could be better. In that case, they missed the chance to not having a 1 hour premiere that would have worked much better. |
| Don't really see the whole problem with CGI tbh, it's not even bad really. Especially not if we're talking from a fan of the original perspective. Because the battles in the original OVA were far from being well animated or good looking. Hard to judge after 1 episode, but it might be OK. Not much will happen unless they absolutely rush through stuff or skip a lot. Can't really remember now how were the first episodes in the original, but it doesn't feel that way atm, so it's nice. It's bit better than I expected it to be. The character designs will be hard to get used to, though. |
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| I actually really like the art and animation for this. I fanboyed when Yang appeared. I don’t have high expectations for this but I’m still looking forward to the next episode. |
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| Don't know if someone already mentioned this, but around the 11 minute mark someone from the Alliance called the commander next to him kaka (your excellency). Dafuq? |
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| Lots of pew pew. Really loved the stellar OP and ED....I expect nothing less of Sawano Hiroyuki. Even if most of the anime series his music is attached to aren't always the greatest, at least his music is. |
Corvus8 said: Don't know if someone already mentioned this, but around the 11 minute mark someone from the Alliance called the commander next to him kaka (your excellency). Dafuq? I'm not sure why that's surprising. The Alliance fleet commander is a vice admiral, and flag officers in this series are invariably addressed to by their subordinates as "your Excellency" (閣下, kakka), no matter whether they are from the Alliance or the Empire. |
| I never saw the original but this one episode was enough to get me interested, I look forward to seeing where this goes. |
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| Impressive battle animation. Disappointed at no Yang Wengli (in the flesh) in this episode. Honestly, something I really dislike about LotGH is the Empire. What is the probability of an Old Regime space empire being populated entirely by Frenchified Germans? It makes zero sense. |
glassknuckles said: Honestly, something I really dislike about LotGH is the Empire. What is the probability of an Old Regime space empire being populated entirely by Frenchified Germans? It makes zero sense. Spoilers for OVA episode 40, I guess? Nothing major though, just backstory, and one that appeared in the first chapter of the first novel at that. It's true that it wouldn't make much sense normally, but considering that the whole Inferior Genes Exclusion Act was somehow a thing, that the overall aesthetics favoured by Rudolf I and implemented wherever possible were distinctly inspired by the Prussian Empire, that the Imperial nobility was completely comprised of people of Germanic descent (or who passed as such anyway), and finally that there's a lot more variety in the Alliance (literally founded and populated by refugees from the Empire, remember?), we can safely come to the horrifying conclusion that this lack of ethnic diversity was entirely intentional and likely enforced by the Imperial government. Ew. |
phytohormonesApr 7, 2018 3:57 AM
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MagisterArcanum said: Corvus8 said: Don't know if someone already mentioned this, but around the 11 minute mark someone from the Alliance called the commander next to him kaka (your excellency). Dafuq? I'm not sure why that's surprising. The Alliance fleet commander is a vice admiral, and flag officers in this series are invariably addressed to by their subordinates as "your Excellency" (閣下, kakka), no matter whether they are from the Alliance or the Empire. Don't remember in the old anime hearing someone from the Alliance calling a commander like that. I always assumed that "your excellency" was only used by the galactic empire, because of the whole autocratic monarchy and it being more archaic themed with kings, queens, princes etc. It doesn't really fit the democratic alliance. So i'm just confused why he didn't call the commander, well, commander. |
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Corvus8 said: MagisterArcanum said: I'm not sure why that's surprising. The Alliance fleet commander is a vice admiral, and flag officers in this series are invariably addressed to by their subordinates as "your Excellency" (閣下, kakka), no matter whether they are from the Alliance or the Empire. Don't remember in the old anime hearing someone from the Alliance calling a commander like that. I always assumed that "your excellency" was only used by the galactic empire, because of the whole autocratic monarchy and it being more archaic themed with kings, queens, princes etc. It doesn't really fit the democratic alliance. So i'm just confused why he didn't call the commander, well, commander. Well, in fact "your Excellency" was also used in the old OVA series. In Overture to a New War you can hear Vice Admiral Pastolle's staff officer addressing him as 司令官閣下 (shireikan-kakka, lit. your Excellency, commander) when inquiring about further instructions just like in this episode. It might not have been obvious since the Central Admiral subs glossed over the honorific and simply translated it as "Admiral". |
SupremeEdgelord said: wanting exciting battles in Logh LMFAo It wasn't a really exciting battle, but i still liked it. Hope the second episode will be more exciting, it seems like the outcome of the battle is uncertain. this might not be a series for u bud |
| Is it just me or did the first battle just paint everyone except Lohengramm and Lapp as extremely incompetent? And how in the world can an opposing fleet jam opposing fleet comms without being there? They'd have a major tech advantage in that case over the Free Planets, and makes me wonder how the older commanders thought they could possibly lose. And I do agree that the fleet going into disarray with a directional turn shouldn't be as big of a problem as the enemy picking you off from the rear as you attempt a large scale maneuver; Lohengramm's fleet didn't have a problem with an about face when they headed to flank the other fleet. While the art and sound was amazing, the actual tactics were so terrible I'm not sure I can treat it as the strategy anime it says it is. |
EJDiaZ168 said: is this a sequel to the first one? Nope, it's a "new approach" of the interpretation of the novel in an anime. SupremeEdgelord said: it seems like the outcome of the battle is uncertain. |
kimilljong92Apr 8, 2018 7:16 AM
RyuuSasakura12 said: AiHikari said: The main difference is that it's a lot more streamlined, lining up the events as necessary instead of showing all the cards from the very beginning. If my memory doesn't fail me, in the first episode of the original OVAs they introduced almost every major characters, including Oberstein, Reuenthal and Mittermeyer. Also Reinhard was keenly aware of Wenli from the very beginning, which for me is the biggest difference story-wise, even as he's smashing the first fleet, he's constantly reminding himself to be cautious because Yang could maybe pull something unexpected on him. GuyWRunningShirt said: As someone who watched the original, I have many problems with the first ep, such as Lohengramm and Seigfried not knowing who Yang Wenli is and how it isn't immediately obvious that Lohengramm and Seigfried are childhood friends and extremely close. Instead, it would likely seem to the new viewer that they are good friends, but certainly not as close as they are in the original. While I am fine with the new adaptation taking liberties, them being super close is an incredibly important plot point that must not be changed. Hopefully, their relationship will become more obvious in ep 2. That said, the rest of it looks great. I was a little confused as to where in the timeline they started ep 1 in but I think I have the gist of it. They didn't know Yang in the original novel as I said in my previous comments this adaptation is based on the original novel that's why SPOILER Lao will be with Yang in the 2nd episode based on the trailer and not Attenborough because in the original novel it was Lao who assisted Yang but in the OVA they changed it to Attenborough please read the thread why you mustn't compare the story of this anime to the OVA rather to the novel. In the OVA they added a lot of things that can't be found in the novel. I'm sure if you're not familiar with the story in the novel you will be shocked that a lot of things didn't exist in the novel. As for the timeline it is S.E. 796, I.C. 387 basically Chapter 1 of the novel. Thank you for the info, btw, click on the BBCode button and put that spoiler in a spoiler tag, please. I wasnt heartbroken by that spoiler as you so no issue at all |
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