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Claire said: --ALEX-- said: One thing I don't get is why people get surprised when they get cheated on despite fully knowing ahead of time that the person they're with is prone to doing good such actions. I guess everyone thinks they can "change" their significant other. Betas can be fucking cheaters too. They fancy themselves to be alpha, but they’re definitely not. B-but onee-chan im so Alpha that she'll stay with me even if I cheat on her.. |
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teruu said: i dont see how thats relevant lolAsap_ said: if he was a talented actor, musician, business man, an overall charming and confident person, this would make women very interested. not because they are gold diggers, but because talent and ability is attractive and those things themselves are what you could call "being alpha" - being better at something, exhuding confidence (perhaps faking being talented or capable, but still trying to display these qualities) looks make things easier Yeah why don't you explain that while this guy who has all that gets accused of sexual assault just because he's ugly as shit  Ridiculous amount of delusion to be honest to even state any of that matters. plenty of good-looking people get accused as well either way |
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| For me, no. Big muscles and a dominant attitude are turn offs. I think playboy and alpha are two different things, but I dislike both anyway. I much prefer quiet/beta people in general. |
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| well they wouldnt be playboys if women werent attracted to them.... so i think thats kind of self-explanatory though there are "beta" versions of playboys, like the guy singing with his acoustic guitar, i knew one growing up, fucking hated how all the girls flocked to him when he was playing lol, even one girl i was hooking up with got that look in her eyes hahahaha(he wasnt even good looking, just had a nice voice, hung out with him recently and he pulled the "i hate how all my friends are girls" card, sheesh) or some any other pretentious artistic thing |
| Ahahahahahaahah is this actually a real discussion. Well, I guess I should chip in instead of just leaving my laughter. I'm a girl and I gotta say that my tight little pussy is like a waterfall rn, my legs are wider than the wage gap everyone keeps talking about. Too bad I'm attracted to playboys and alphas only but I'd let any of you self proclaimed betas watch. Don't forget to tip your fedoras and blame women for your anti social behavior. M'lady. |
| They prefer them when what they want is a fun time (sex). Nothing wrong with that. But yeah, alphas are more likely to not want to be tied down. Women prefer men who show their feminine side more when they want a long term relationship. So women look for men who have dogs and treat them well, have a good relationship with their family, and show they care about their community with volunteer work. If a guy has a Golden Retriever, it really signifies that he is a friendly person. But someone with a Bull-type dog, well, that is honestly a red flag, same with a chow but with Chows I feel they just care about being a lone wolf anyway. Yes. I would make snap judgement like that, and for the most part it is true. The type of dog people choose is a pretty good reflection of them. A man with a Dalmation is likely more sophisticated. A guy with a Husky probably likes sports. And a guy with a Border Collie probably really really loves dogs and his dog is his #1. Guys with small dogs tend to not care what other people think about them or are married. I mean, some women really like $$$$. And that is a sign you are living a stable life. But it isn't the only measure. But if a lady sees you have a nice care, you probably have a decent job and are able to pay off that car. I mean it is all signs you are a stable person. Women tend to like guys who are funny. And men tend to like women who have a sense of humor. Or play music, as it takes practice and dedication to do so. |
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n00b44 said: Ahahahahahaahah is this actually a real discussion. Well, I guess I should chip in instead of just leaving my laughter. I'm a girl and I gotta say that my tight little pussy is like a waterfall rn, my legs are wider than the wage gap everyone keeps talking about. Too bad I'm attracted to playboys and alphas only but I'd let any of you self proclaimed betas watch. Don't forget to tip your fedoras and blame women for your anti social behavior. M'lady. I knew a guy.... with a Trilby.... who would actually say M'lady.... he had a man bun, and a huge beard too. XD He was the center of a unicorn poly relationship. I do not understand how anyone would have been attracted to someone who wanted to be a professional cosplayer but refused to get fit or make his own stuff. |
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| Wait, what's wrong with beta male/characters again? |
| The whole Alpha Beta thing is bunk... I've had friends who are Beta and Maybe even Delta and they meet the love of their life and that's it they get married and live happily ever after. People forget that there's also Alpha and Beta females and sometimes opposites attract. I've had friends who's wives are defiantly the assertive ones. |
| I don't understand it either. I've always like "beta" personalities. Alpha types are just too annoying and pushy for my taste and usually have no tact. |
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| Well,this question is 50/50 I mean,there are girls who like an alpha man but there are also girls who like beta mans. About playboy one,i say no, only if the girl is a thot who wants attention ,in that case,there aren't really a "attrace",more like a "need" for these thots.(or bitches w/e) |
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isekai said: Cbr_Star said: The whole Alpha Beta thing is bunk... I've had friends who are Beta and Maybe even Delta and they meet the love of their life and that's it they get married and live happily ever after. People forget that there's also Alpha and Beta females and sometimes opposites attract. I've had friends who's wives are defiantly the assertive ones. you say its debunk but you seem to imply and agree that alpha = assertive beta = passive right? Well you definatly see Alpha and Beta animals in nature. But humans are far more socially complex then that. Infact I would argue we have evolved past that stage. We're not cavemen anymore where the one Alpha has a 100 wives and the other don't get to mate. There's many more factors that go into if someone mates or not. For example I could take the biggest wussy who's also ugly, but if I made him fantastically rich there would be many women who would want to mate with him. Or you could take a king who's a lousy king and very "Beta". And yet every Alpha still has to follow and obey them. So the idea that a Alpha is automatically a leader and not a follower is simply untrue. Now there definatly is dominant and submissive people though. |
isekai said: Cbr_Star said: Well you definatly see Alpha and Beta animals in nature. But humans are far more socially complex then that. Infact I would argue we have evolved past that stage. We're not cavemen anymore where the one Alpha has a 100 wives and the other don't get to mate. There's many more factors that go into if someone mates or not. For example I could take the biggest wussy who's also ugly, but if I made him fantastically rich there would be many women who would want to mate with him. Or you could take a king who's a lousy king and very "Beta". And yet every Alpha still has to follow and obey them. So the idea that a Alpha is automatically a leader and not a follower is simply untrue. Now there definatly is dominant and submissive people though. that bold part ye thats another way to put it alpha = dominant beta = submissive so the stereotype of alpha and beta is not completely debunked but ye i agree humans are more socially complex heck our society is artificial and not natural anyway I think there's some truth to it, but it's not a good theory as it generalizes too many people. Just look at Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. Everything about Steve Jobs screams Alpha Male from the way he dresses to the multiple women he dated etc. On the other hand everything about Bill Gates seems like a Beta male from his glasses to only having one wife. Yet they both have huge successful companies, are rich etc. The difference though is Men like Bill live longer because they can control their emotions better. |
Rarusu_ said: Cbr_Star said: The whole Alpha Beta thing is bunk... I've had friends who are Beta and Maybe even Delta and they meet the love of their life and that's it they get married and live happily ever after. People forget that there's also Alpha and Beta females and sometimes opposites attract. I've had friends who's wives are defiantly the assertive ones. That's because we have normative monogamy, which reduces ingroup competion between men. Despite this though, we can see tendencies even in our societies, especially when it comes to one night stands. A man's reproductive success is much more dependent on his status than the social status of a woman is for her. I don't think it's that simple. I had a friend who was literally built like Danny DeVito had a normal job etc. Yet he used to get all sorts of Women because he had this unnatural ability to charm them and he wasn't afraid of rejection. But there was nothing Alpha about him. On the other hand I have a friend who used to model for Tommy Hilfiger. And yes social status did have something to play. Women would come out of the woodwork to meet him. Yet he wasn't a "Alpha" type of person. In fact he is one of the most down to earth humble people I know, and he's usually a "follower". He actually didn't date much, but he did get married and has stayed faithful despite he could have a different woman every night. |
| Sorry for double post... I think the main difference is not so much alpha or beta etc. But I think what's missing from a lot of guys is ambition! If you want a girlfriend or multiple girls. Well it's not easy you're going to have to work for that which means maybe working out, dressing better etc. There's a differnece between liking something and wanting something. Everyone likes the idea of having a beutiful partner, but not everyone "Wants" to put in the effort for it. But if you do "want" it bad enough you will achieve it. |
Rarusu_ said: Cbr_Star said: I don't think it's that simple. I had a friend who was literally built like Danny DeVito had a normal job etc. Yet he used to get all sorts of Women because he had this unnatural ability to charm them and he wasn't afraid of rejection. But there was nothing Alpha about him. On the other hand I have a friend who used to model for Tommy Hilfiger. And yes social status did have something to play. Women would come out of the woodwork to meet him. Yet he wasn't a "Alpha" type of person. In fact he is one of the most down to earth humble people I know, and he's usually a "follower". He actually didn't date much, but he did get married and has stayed faithful despite he could have a different woman every night. I don't believe it's simple either, but there's a risk of over-complicating things as well. There are always individual exceptions to what is normal or general. I've also experienced things that go against what's expected. Most men will face tons of rejections before they eventually manage to meet someone that will agree to get into a relationship with them. But there are a few men who don't have to experience many rejections. I know one of those, he has a low-status job but he is very good looking and has a dominant personality. He can get sex whenever with almost whoever, in a similar way women can get one night stands very easily. That's far from the case for most guys that I know, I know more virgins than "alphas", and very few girls are virgin at my age, and if they are it's because they have chose to be. Sorry to butt in on your conversation! But I kind of agree with this as well. I think people who like one-night stands may generally go for a more "alpha" type of a guy (as much as I dislike using that word..). I mean a guy who seems extremely confident and experienced in bed, kinda playboy-ish. Maybe he seems like a guy you'll have a good time with..? Still, I think this is mostly true for one-night stands only, as people have very different tastes for relationships. Relationships are more than just sex and each girl has a taste of her own. Some like dominant guys, but there are different types and levels of dominance as well so you can't really generalize that, either. Some would like a guy who dominates their entire life, some may just want it occasionally in bed. I also know many people who like shy and awkward guys. (This has nothing to do with the topic but I've seen your posts a couple of times and I feel like I always agree with your opinions. You seem level-headed. It's nice to see a person whose thoughts seem similar to yours! Um lol just wanted to say that) |
Rarusu_ said: Cbr_Star said: I don't think it's that simple. I had a friend who was literally built like Danny DeVito had a normal job etc. Yet he used to get all sorts of Women because he had this unnatural ability to charm them and he wasn't afraid of rejection. But there was nothing Alpha about him. On the other hand I have a friend who used to model for Tommy Hilfiger. And yes social status did have something to play. Women would come out of the woodwork to meet him. Yet he wasn't a "Alpha" type of person. In fact he is one of the most down to earth humble people I know, and he's usually a "follower". He actually didn't date much, but he did get married and has stayed faithful despite he could have a different woman every night. I don't believe it's simple either, but there's a risk of over-complicating things as well. There are always individual exceptions to what is normal or general. I've also experienced things that go against what's expected. Most men will face tons of rejections before they eventually manage to meet someone that will agree to get into a relationship with them. But there are a few men who don't have to experience many rejections. I know one of those, he has a low-status job but he is very good looking and has a dominant personality. He can get sex whenever with almost whoever, in a similar way women can get one night stands very easily. That's far from the case for most guys that I know, I know more virgins than "alphas", and very few girls are virgin at my age, and if they are it's because they have chose to be. The fact that there is exceptions to the rule to me means it's not hard wired instead it's mind over matter. According to the test I'm a alpha and I'm not a bad looking guy but I've been rejected 100's of times. Heck I was just shot down twice last week! But the difference is years ago I made the choice that getting rejected didn't matter to me, I learned to move on to the next person. Without risk there's no reward no matter your personality type. I also think it depends on where you are in life too. In high school I was a virgin...All my friends were virgins and no one had a clue how to get a girl. But after high school in the college years I started meeting women left and right because I had moved to where they were. And unlike high school social status isn't as important to women in College. But that changes again when you get older and women hit their nesting phase. |
| I've yet to be in a relationship with someone who can "wear the pants" more than me lol. Probably because I have a strong personality. So the idea of an "alpha"guy seems appealing but I have no first hand experience to really make a fair opinion. But I guess me just having this idea that an alpha type of guy seems attractive... kinda answers your question lmao. Though I agree with everyone else, alpha != playboy, if he wanna play he better expect to get played back |
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Rarusu_ said: Cbr_Star said: The fact that there is exceptions to the rule to me means it's not hard wired instead it's mind over matter. According to the test I'm a alpha and I'm not a bad looking guy but I've been rejected 100's of times. Heck I was just shot down twice last week! But the difference is years ago I made the choice that getting rejected didn't matter to me, I learned to move on to the next person. Without risk there's no reward no matter your personality type. I also think it depends on where you are in life too. In high school I was a virgin...All my friends were virgins and no one had a clue how to get a girl. But after high school in the college years I started meeting women left and right because I had moved to where they were. And unlike high school social status isn't as important to women in College. But that changes again when you get older and women hit their nesting phase. It's not hard-wired, but I don't think it should be interpreted that way either. I mean, these threads are allover the internet. Also on forums in my country, so it can't just be taken out of the blue all of this. But I agree that it's for the best to learn, or at least accept to take risks when it comes to dating as a male. And yes, I do also experience that it gets easier with time, and I'm still fairly young. In high school I was autistic as fuck, lmao. But I also think it's because some of the girls begin to become more confident themselves with age. Something that I have begin to learn is eye contact. It's hard to find the history of the whole alpha male theory, but I believe it has it's roots in the whole type A or B personality theory which has often been debunked but keeps rearing it's ugly head. Personally I've always felt it is a pseudo psychology that was invented a few years ago by the same guys who want to sell you a booklet or video on "How to become a pickup artist" They try to make it sound like it's hopeless because your a beta so you will never have success, happiness, and love in your life. BUT IF YOU BUY THE BOOK! you can magically become a alpha!!! The thing is it's simply not true. I know plenty of "Nice guys or beta" who are super successful and have everything they want out of life. And on the flip side I know some Alphas who are freaking miserable in life. I think the reason you are also seeing so many more threads like this is there's been a fundamental change in human courting and relationships, and that is the internet. Before the internet you would have to actually interact with most people and actually see if you liked each other, and I believe this made people much more willing to settle. Where as the internet gives the illusion that you have much more choice and therefore you can be that much more picky. It's why you see so many fit attractive single women on POF. They obviously are picky and holding out for that "Ideal Man" that doesn't exist. And I think it's also why there's so much more divorce as they believe that person is easily replaceable. The problem also with the internet is someone like my short lovable friend wouldn't stack up in the looks department, and he may never get a chance to win a lady over with his charming personalty. Online he may come off as cheesy. In my own life I actually feel jealous of those guys who seem to meet that one girl who is their soulmate and they are genuinely happy for the rest of their lives. I much rather have that then my choice of multiple women that doesn't work out in the end. |
| As long it's not a playboy. Only slut would date a playboy lol. But I think I'm more to beta cause an alpha man means that they are dominant which is sometime bad and usually don't have any time for you due to the extrovert life?. I like guys who "respect women" type and at the same time still act manly. If it's about based on look? I think is the same for everyone, you at least want a decent- looking partner right? |
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Kuroko-chan said: I don't get why you use ''alpha'' and ''beta'' thing on humans, if that is mostly used for wolfs or other pack animals. I wouldn't say its a pack animal thing, its a more of a male thing, I don't really expect you to understand; but the majority of men are obsessed with dominance and hierarchy. All men are in competition with each other on some level so it's not surprising that men way to prove they are better than other men and a simple and easy to understand (at least for men) way of doing this is the whole alhpa/beta thing. Also the whole competitive thing is backed up by studies http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3049126/Men-competitive-women-Sportsmen-driven-greater-desire-win-regardless-ability-claims-study.html |
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LoneWolf said: Kuroko-chan said: I don't get why you use ''alpha'' and ''beta'' thing on humans, if that is mostly used for wolfs or other pack animals. I wouldn't say its a pack animal thing, its a more of a male thing, I don't really expect you to understand; but the majority of men are obsessed with dominance and hierarchy. All men are in competition with each other on some level so it's not surprising that men way to prove they are better than other men and a simple and easy to understand (at least for men) way of doing this is the whole alhpa/beta thing. Also the whole competitive thing is backed up by studies http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3049126/Men-competitive-women-Sportsmen-driven-greater-desire-win-regardless-ability-claims-study.html Also gonna point out that alpha theory in wolves has been discredited. :) And by the very person who came up with the theory no less! |
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| Alphas are just alpha, the jungle and our human nature will always tell that tale. I mean most girls that say "I'm not attracted to alphas" probably didn't have many looking their way hehehe. Of course women will be attracted to the greatest, whether that's the richest in wealth or the strongest physical strength, looks, charisma, skills. The top dogs will always attract the girls, that's just life. Vice-versa. |
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Papi- said: There's only one right answer, and that answer is that every girl is different. I've seen plenty of girls go for the completely awkward guy that plays countless hours of overwatch or LoL, who also probably has the physical strength of a 7 yr old boy. It all comes down to whether you can make them laugh and they genuinely enjoy spending time with you. Obviously there's always going to be girls who want some model, or a dude making a lot of money. But you don't want that shit trust me. Just be chill Well my guy doesn't make a lot of money, he can't carry me (and I am 120 pounds), and he can't sing worth shit. But he makes me laugh with his shitty puns. And yeah. I enjoy gaming with him. He likes yaoi which is a huge plus. And he looks like a sexy bishie. |
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Turnip said: Alphas are just alpha, the jungle and our human nature will always tell that tale. I mean most girls that say "I'm not attracted to alphas" probably didn't have many looking their way hehehe. I am married and was in the top 5 most popular girls in high school. ;) I like femmy cuties. 9 years with the same guy. I looked for a guy who could never pass as straight, but still liked girls. :P |
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Energetic-Nova said: LoneWolf said: I wouldn't say its a pack animal thing, its a more of a male thing, I don't really expect you to understand; but the majority of men are obsessed with dominance and hierarchy. All men are in competition with each other on some level so it's not surprising that men way to prove they are better than other men and a simple and easy to understand (at least for men) way of doing this is the whole alhpa/beta thing. Also the whole competitive thing is backed up by studies http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3049126/Men-competitive-women-Sportsmen-driven-greater-desire-win-regardless-ability-claims-study.html Also gonna point out that alpha theory in wolves has been discredited. :) And by the very person who came up with the theory no less! Well yeah it was a retarded theory to start with, but there is a differences between the original meaning of something and how people use words and how those meanings change based on the usage over time... pretty much etymology. Pretty much what people "mean" when they talk about alhpha/beta males is social dominance... so yeah unless you believe social dominance isn't real among human males the whole alpha beta thing is legit. |
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LoneWolf said: Energetic-Nova said: Also gonna point out that alpha theory in wolves has been discredited. :) And by the very person who came up with the theory no less! Well yeah it was a retarded theory to start with, but there is a differences between the original meaning of something and how people use words and how those meanings change based on the usage over time... pretty much etymology. Pretty much what people "mean" when they talk about alhpha/beta males is social dominance... so yeah unless you believe social dominance isn't real among human males the whole alpha beta thing is legit. Oh it is a thing alright. Competing for resources (women, food, money, personal glory on a video game). I have watched them. They feel this need to even be mean to innocent doggies to show how tough they are they got a tough dog they can be unfair to. The type of guy who is so up his own ass in arrogance that he would hurt a dog even emotionally is just the worst. The type of show off who thinks chugging beer makes him cool is really awful. oh I gotta be jealous and kick someone's butt over my girl even glancing at him. ew. Cuttlefish strategy works on me though. XD (Male cuttlefish sometimes impersonate lady cuttlefish to get with girls and seem less threatening). Typically the feminine type is associated with intelligence. :) |
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Energetic-Nova said: LoneWolf said: Well yeah it was a retarded theory to start with, but there is a differences between the original meaning of something and how people use words and how those meanings change based on the usage over time... pretty much etymology. Pretty much what people "mean" when they talk about alhpha/beta males is social dominance... so yeah unless you believe social dominance isn't real among human males the whole alpha beta thing is legit. Oh it is a thing alright. Competing for resources (women, food, money, personal glory on a video game). I have watched them. They feel this need to even be mean to innocent doggies to show how tough they are they got a tough dog they can be unfair to. The type of guy who is so up his own ass in arrogance that he would hurt a dog even emotionally is just the worst. The type of show off who thinks chugging beer makes him cool is really awful. oh I gotta be jealous and kick someone's butt over my girl even glancing at him. ew. Cuttlefish strategy works on me though. XD (Male cuttlefish sometimes impersonate lady cuttlefish to get with girls and seem less threatening) I guess you're a outlier then. It makes sense that women would be attracted to men that are more socially dominant (read:alpha), because they means they are better able to acquire resources and compete with other men. I don't really understand how the behaviors you're describing have anything to do with being more socially dominant... but yeah I'm glad you found someone you like lol. |
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LoneWolf said: Energetic-Nova said: Oh it is a thing alright. Competing for resources (women, food, money, personal glory on a video game). I have watched them. They feel this need to even be mean to innocent doggies to show how tough they are they got a tough dog they can be unfair to. The type of guy who is so up his own ass in arrogance that he would hurt a dog even emotionally is just the worst. The type of show off who thinks chugging beer makes him cool is really awful. oh I gotta be jealous and kick someone's butt over my girl even glancing at him. ew. Cuttlefish strategy works on me though. XD (Male cuttlefish sometimes impersonate lady cuttlefish to get with girls and seem less threatening) I guess you're a outlier then. It makes sense that women would be attracted to men that are more socially dominant (read:alpha), because they means they are better able to acquire resources and compete with other men. I don't really understand how the behaviors you're describing have anything to do with being more socially dominant... but yeah I'm glad you found someone you like lol. Some people very much value physical strength and those traits can be great if you are in a warzone or just an unsafe neighborhood. The type of man who can physically protect you can be a valuable asset to the right person. But if you are in a safe place, it makes way more sense to pick someone who can have intelligent conversation, and has more feminine attributes (which are also thought of as more nurturing, the type who would be a very involved father). A guy who is a mix of both of this spectrum is pretty hard to come by to be honest, but it would be someone like my own father who was a single father. He loves my husband BTW because he is interesting to talk to. He never thought he woudl like someone who cross dresses on a day to day basis but, you know. My guy is a good guy. And tries his best always even if he kinda sucks at making money, he has good home bedside qualities. Very caring. My father is less emotional caring than my husband. But he does make a lot of money at a cushy government job and can type 120 words. But I would say my father is less aggressive than when he was younger. Which is a great thing. I am glad he found a woman who is his perfect match a few years ago. He has softened even more around her. My dad was a very good student but also a jock and was in the military and it really reflects that he has a pretty good balance of things going on which makes hims someone I idolize a lot. But I think my dad not being as emotionally available made me feel like that was something to seek out in any guy I ended up with. I guess being raised by a guy made me a very different kind of girl. I guess most people grow up with that emotionally sensitive ear (their mom) but I didn't. |
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Energetic-Nova said: LoneWolf said: I guess you're a outlier then. It makes sense that women would be attracted to men that are more socially dominant (read:alpha), because they means they are better able to acquire resources and compete with other men. I don't really understand how the behaviors you're describing have anything to do with being more socially dominant... but yeah I'm glad you found someone you like lol. Some people very much value physical strength and those traits can be great if you are in a warzone or just an unsafe neighborhood. The type of man who can physically protect you can be a valuable asset to the right person. But if you are in a safe place, it makes way more sense to pick someone who can have intelligent conversation, and has more feminine attributes (which are also thought of as more nurturing, the type who would be a very involved father). A guy who is a mix of both of this spectrum is pretty hard to come by to be honest, but it would be someone like my own father who was a single father. He loves my husband BTW because he is interesting to talk to. He never thought he woudl like someone who cross dresses on a day to day basis but, you know. My guy is a good guy. And tries his best always even if he kinda sucks at making money, he has good home bedside qualities. Very caring. My father is less emotional caring than my husband. But he does make a lot of money at a cushy government job and can type 120 words. But I would say my father is less aggressive than when he was younger. Which is a great thing. I am glad he found a woman who is his perfect match a few years ago. He has softened even more around her. My dad was a very good student but also a jock and was in the military and it really reflects that he has a pretty good balance of things going on which makes hims someone I idolize a lot. I don't really think you understand what I'm saying... You're an outlier. Congratulations and I'm very happy for you; but you can't relate your personal experience and opinion with all women. |
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LoneWolf said: Energetic-Nova said: Some people very much value physical strength and those traits can be great if you are in a warzone or just an unsafe neighborhood. The type of man who can physically protect you can be a valuable asset to the right person. But if you are in a safe place, it makes way more sense to pick someone who can have intelligent conversation, and has more feminine attributes (which are also thought of as more nurturing, the type who would be a very involved father). A guy who is a mix of both of this spectrum is pretty hard to come by to be honest, but it would be someone like my own father who was a single father. He loves my husband BTW because he is interesting to talk to. He never thought he woudl like someone who cross dresses on a day to day basis but, you know. My guy is a good guy. And tries his best always even if he kinda sucks at making money, he has good home bedside qualities. Very caring. My father is less emotional caring than my husband. But he does make a lot of money at a cushy government job and can type 120 words. But I would say my father is less aggressive than when he was younger. Which is a great thing. I am glad he found a woman who is his perfect match a few years ago. He has softened even more around her. My dad was a very good student but also a jock and was in the military and it really reflects that he has a pretty good balance of things going on which makes hims someone I idolize a lot. I don't really think you understand what I'm saying... You're an outlier. Congratulations and I'm very happy for you; but you can't relate your personal experience and opinion with all women. Gosh if I related it all to my friends, I would say all women are a-sexual and more sexually interested in Link than they are in anyone real. XD As far as I know, fellow anime girl pals pretty much have no desire to have sex with anyone. So, being someone into anime, who actually got married (been with him for 9 years), and is female, autistic/ adhd, and was popular in school, fuck yeah I am an outlier. How many people do you know got married at 23 and are atheists? But I am not alone: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/dating-and-mating/201709/reasons-not-date-attractive-masculine-man "Intriguingly, when women are fertile, they seem to prefer more masculine men as short-term mates, but women generally prefer men with more feminine faces when considering mates for long-term relationships." The only time I have heard of women, as a group, preferring more masculine psychical features, is when they live somewhere unsafe. Most women though, are not interested in guys crossdressing or being bisexual, But they are interested in more feminine physical traits and behaviors. Women are intensely jealous, and would rather settle with someone who would view her choosing him as a goddess and could never really have his pick be any better than her. It is a viable strategy. Socially dominant women will always pick someone beta so she is always prettier. That way, she can be sure he will never ever leave her. An example of someone physically alpha would be like Gene Simmons. Someone who is physically Beta would be like David Bowie. bowie was a cuttlefish for as long as he could ride that. And he was highly intelligent just like most fae looking males. That is how they make up for not having the physicality most men have. It is a perfectly viable way to be alpha in a different way. It is a way of standing out and being shiny to the ladies. He was a computer nerd and was obsessed with Japan. Ain't we all. |
Energetic-NovaMar 8, 2018 8:58 PM
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Eight-Man said: Honestly, looking for someone to love or avoiding people who you generally don't like just makes any love "inevitably artificial" and it is doomed to fail. It's best to just carry on with life until you meet The One, and then your love will be genuine and pure. I never planned on waiting for "the one" but landed in a relationship where I married the first person I kissed. soooo there is that. |
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Eight-Man said: Energetic-Nova said: I never planned on waiting for "the one" but landed in a relationship where I married the first person I kissed. soooo there is that. Congrats, you lucked out! (Assuming you are actually in love) I am definitely in love. And will prob love him forever. We even had a break once and we missed each other too much and our relationship was better the second time. :P I think we value each other more. |
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Energetic-Nova said: LoneWolf said: I don't really think you understand what I'm saying... You're an outlier. Congratulations and I'm very happy for you; but you can't relate your personal experience and opinion with all women. Gosh if I related it all to my friends, I would say all women are a-sexual and more sexually interested in Link than they are in anyone real. XD As far as I know, fellow anime girl pals pretty much have no desire to have sex with anyone. So, being someone into anime, who actually got married (been with him for 9 years), and is female, autistic/ adhd, and was popular in school, fuck yeah I am an outlier. How many people do you know got married at 23 and are atheists? But I am not alone: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/dating-and-mating/201709/reasons-not-date-attractive-masculine-man "Intriguingly, when women are fertile, they seem to prefer more masculine men as short-term mates, but women generally prefer men with more feminine faces when considering mates for long-term relationships." The only time I have heard of women, as a group, preferring more masculine psychical features, is when they live somewhere unsafe. Most women though, are not interested in guys crossdressing or being bisexual, But they are interested in more feminine physical traits and behaviors. Women are intensely jealous, and would rather settle with someone who would view her choosing him as a goddess and could never really have his pick be any better than her. It is a viable strategy. Socially dominant women will always pick someone beta so she is always prettier. That way, she can be sure he will never ever leave her. An example of someone physically alpha would be like Gene Simmons. Someone who is physically Beta would be like David Bowie. bowie was a cuttlefish for as long as he could ride that. And he was highly intelligent just like most fae looking males. That is how they make up for not having the physicality most men have. It is a perfectly viable way to be alpha in a different way. It is a way of standing out and being shiny to the ladies. He was a computer nerd and was obsessed with Japan. Ain't we all. You may very well be right that women look for men that have more "beta" or feminine traits when they want a long term partner, but the thing is a lot of men (including myself) don't care for long term relationships (marriage rate is going down and divorce rate is going up), but they do prefer "alpha" men for short-term relationships. Which they will probably have much more short-term relationships than long-term relationships... so I think its safe to say more "alpha" or socially dominant men are attracting women, albeit for shorter periods of time, but far more frequently. Honestly I don't that much about debating about women's preferences, I'm not a woman and I don't want to pretend what it's like to be attracted to men either. |
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| Women are attracted to whatever they want, when they want it, and when to get it. There is no care when it comes to getting what you want. I'm sure like most people they also want to be attracted to whoever it is. Most people don't aim for ugly is what i'm saying; money helps but not attitude. |
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Energetic-Nova said: so you find people attractive based on their sexuality? Turnip said: Alphas are just alpha, the jungle and our human nature will always tell that tale. I mean most girls that say "I'm not attracted to alphas" probably didn't have many looking their way hehehe. I am married and was in the top 5 most popular girls in high school. ;) I like femmy cuties. 9 years with the same guy. I looked for a guy who could never pass as straight, but still liked girls. :P |
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Turnip said: Energetic-Nova said: so you find people attractive based on their sexuality? I am married and was in the top 5 most popular girls in high school. ;) I like femmy cuties. 9 years with the same guy. I looked for a guy who could never pass as straight, but still liked girls. :P Well, Yeah kinda. I am bisexual myself though and mostly only like other bisexual women and men. I mean, if you prefer monosexual people, well, that would be most people. |
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| I think girls are more attracted to money rather than the playboy type. Alpha is another matter though. |
| Note, alpha and beta are both misnomers, the term which was originally coined for wolves was eventually disavowed by the very person who coined it. Social interactions with animals, let alone humans can't be simplified into two words. That being said, not all women are the same. Common sense would dictate, no as women just like men, have varied tastes. The sample size here won't give you any conclusive takeaway so that's my take here. |
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Papi- said: There's only one right answer, and that answer is that every girl is different. I've seen plenty of girls go for the completely awkward guy that plays countless hours of overwatch or LoL, who also probably has the physical strength of a 7 yr old boy. It all comes down to whether you can make them laugh and they genuinely enjoy spending time with you. Obviously there's always going to be girls who want some model, or a dude making a lot of money. But you don't want that shit trust me. Just be chill *Sounds airhorns* And we have a winner! |
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