| For the most part i'm translating a small text i saw in a group: I wanted A LOT to understand what exactly makes Brazil be so... late when it is about anime and such. USA is still slightly behind compared to japan, mas they follow stuff a lot more, and they still have a lot more of variety, of content, anime events have different things that come from recent anime, 1 million subscriber youtubers that REALLY talk about anime like Gigguk and The Anime Man (Not that i like him but, f*ck, he did an interview with the author of Konosuba. Who, in Brazil, knows Konosuba?), while in Brazil everything is more casual, people are stuck in 2006, in a "pre-popular-internet" world. I'm can't know for sure. Is it an issue of lack of interest? That anime isn't the popular nerd thing of the moment so we should just leave it there? Maybe not, after all if we compare all the eras since... always, i think anime is bigger than it has ever been. Is it lack of access? Don't think that's either, Crunchyroll, Netflix, everything is here, less than out there, but it was never easier. Maube a culture, is that what's left? A culture in which anime is still seen as "cool, bro" and action stuff, just like it was in the early 2000's? The only explanation i can find. Heck, even K-POP, something that i see as much more niche took an even bigger mainstream proportion. And here's is another comment i found in Reddit Brazil. It's extremely cancerous. There are the 11 year olds who watch Boruto, DBS, SAO and start attacking anyone who says anything negative about those shows and keep stating they're perfect or amazing, and that's about 70% of the community. There are the other 20% who watch Attack on Titan, the popular show of the season, and a bunch of action ecchi shit and think they're the owner of the best taste and opinion. And the remaining is the non-toxic 10%. It's... weird, we still get some people making merchandise for that used to be on TV in the early 2000's or that was super famous pre-2008, and we still get Saint Seiya and Naruto movies/games being dubbed by the original voice actors. Yet we don't get Madoka Magica movies, we don't get Kimi no Nawa, i thini we only got Koe no Katachi in just some movie theaters in some super-big cities for like, 2 weeks? I see some people using the argument that "If we want niche stuff we will have to get mainstream stuff first", but i'm seeing no improvement. And let's be honest? Is "seasonal anime" that niche? I mean, there are anime youtubers that already consider seasonal anime as the norm and watching old anime as the "niche" AFAIR from 2013-2016, anime events here received a reputation for "not being about anime": Basically most of the stuff would be anime-unrelated youtubers, K-POP, etc, most cosplays would be from LoL, and etc So i ask you, MAL, what? |
| the fuckers got 7-1 they deserve anything that happens to them |
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| does brazil still have anime on television i wonder |
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romagia said: does brazil still have anime on television i wonder Not a lot, it used to have a lot more some years ago. Even the first anime show I ever watched, I did it bcz it was being broadcasted on Cartoon Network (ok, I had to rewatch it later, but even so...) But they still broadcast some shows. Like Pokemon, Dragon Ball, Saint Seiya, Naruto... With this big of a difference you may say it doesn't have anime on television, I guess xD |
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| North America was like that less than a decade ago. I guess the market just isn't profitable enough. Anime isn't that profitable in the US either, last time I checked, but I imagine it would be even less so in Brazil. TL;DR Weaker economy |
| Be thankful for the wisdom granted to you. |
| "USA is still slightly behind compared to japan" In terms of broadcast? Yes, if you relate japanese TV broadcast to internet exclusive broadcasts in the USAs. But that's more or less the same thing in many other countries. As for in general? I actually thought you were spelling France wrong. thewiru said: Let's be honest!Is "seasonal anime" that niche? I mean, there are anime youtubers that already consider seasonal anime as the norm and watching old anime as the "niche" You do know that "anime youtubers" are niche and not the "norm", right? (same for listening to them) And for years already, "anime conventions" have been based on something else. In the USAs, you have american comics, TV shows, or movies. ZEverywhere, you have a variety of things. And most importantly merchandising/selling stands. They might be about anime, but they're more about money making and uninteresting in themselves. In france, we often have food/cooking stands (many), as well as other types of cultural stands (writing , etc) As for th epeople coming with costumes, you can't do anything against their personal clothes choices. |
| Keep in mind anime is sold with the intent to make a profit. If publishers don't think there's money to be made in Brazil, they won't sell anime they don't think will make them money. Which is why there's mostly mainstream anime. |
thewiru said: What prevents anime from growing in Brazil? Low-nutritious soil and harsh climate. |
| And why do you think this is a phenomena exclusive to Brazil? In LA anime kinda stopped being a relevant thing and business by the mid 00s. It's something that happened in the whole region. Hence the only shows you are going to keep watching in local TV and being merchandized are the very popular ones that worked before that time, because after that time very few shows (like FMA and FMAB) got a local language dub. |
thewiru said: So i ask you, MAL, what? Anime events here haven't been about anime since long ago, a lot of ppl just went there to pick up girls without even knowing "anime", I used to work there and I know it. About the cosplays: In short: In my opinion, the television or event companies just does what gives them money and/or reputation. And doing things for the community here not only doesn't gives you money, but it is more probably to damage your reputation than to make it better. Even with the "non profitable" stuff What good would do to the fansubs to translate something for people just trash it later and say bad things about the one who did the translation? They translate what the majority watch, what will give them views. PS: I am talking about what I see, I know that some ppl in the community aren't like this, but this is what I see the most. Probably it is like this in many other countries, but I live here so... I can't talk about other places xD |
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Fran said: the fuckers got 7-1 they deserve anything that happens to them This was a long time ago and we managed to get revenge. On topic: complementing what KuroiKikyou said, the distributors are not doing a good job when it comes to home video (DVD/Blu-ray) distribution. They think it's a good idea to pick a 48-episode anime (in this case, Digimon Savers) and release 3 episodes per DVD! So, yeah, you bought the 1st volume of Digimon Savers, it has only the first 3 episodes, now you need to buy another volume with more 3 episodes (there are 16 volumes in total)! And it's not like these DVDs are very easy to find. Out of all anime who got DVD releases, only a fwe ones got all episodes relased (Fullmetal Alchemist 2003, Digimon Savers, Saint Seiya, Yu Yu Hakusho, Ragnarok, Death Note and the first season of Bakugan), everything else got cancelled. And, of all the completed ones, only FMA, Ragnarok, Death Note and Bakugan are worth buying. Why? Because they came in boxes, so you don't need to buy 16 3-episode DVDs! This is also the reason why many Brazilians buy bootleg DVDs instead (I myself bought a Digimon Savers and Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL DVDs yesterday). Lucily, the distributors became self-aware of how crappy their distribution are, and are trying to avert this ASAP (looking at you, Saint Seiya Omega Blu-ray and Saint Seiya Lost Canvas DVDs, as well as the Saint Seiya Classic Blu-ray). DUB HATERS: There are many anime fans here that hate every single anime dub, most of the times simply because it's dubbed. They glorify fansubs without realize that some of them are pretty bad, if not horrible. It's even worse if you consider that most of these people don't even speak Japanese, so they can't analyze the subtitles to see if they are accurate or not. And hating dubs is not enough, they also hate anyone who watches dubbed, and Arceus helps you if you say that X or Y anime is better dubbed (as in, the Brazilian dub is better than the Japanese one), unless if it's Dragon Ball, Saint Seiya or Yu Yu Hakusho. SUB HATERS: Everytime a anime goes to Netflix without a Brazilian dub, people cry in pain, saying that if it's to watch subtitled, they go to fansubs instead (even though the Netflix subs are more accurate). It's even worse if the anime in question DOES have a dub, but it's only avaliable through subs. This leads to a fight that ends in both sides insulting each other rather tahn discussing. I could talk more, but at this point I'm just tired. |
Mkim said: your non culture is showing man of culture we got great soil and good sun we could plant allllll the animes Well then, where are all the anime then? Anyone can say "could". :D |
| @KuroiKikyou Campinas does suck a lot, though About the plethora of anime we used to have: Yes, but most of it was on paid television, like ANIMAX. Things like Tsukihime, Fate/Stay Night (DEEN), Bleach and xxxHolic wouldn't be things we would have under normal circunstances, but we did thanks to ANIMAX. Sadly, the channel failed. We also had more underground stuff in free television, such as Patlabor and Gundam Wing, but most people don't talk about it, instead they just keep sucking TV MANCHETE's d*ck. About the community: You're right, but i always questioned why: I would only take knowledge of thinks such as seasonal anime and talking about anime instead of "talking about the concept of being an otaku" when i met foreign anime pages, and then never came back. Does the same happen to everyone else? Because if so, we have two different communities that don't interact with eachother and no middle-ground between then. |
| Some say it's because of that giant statue. However, the statue will apparently be soon replaced by a statue of Athena from Saint Seiya. |
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nukerxero123 said: Fran said: the fuckers got 7-1 they deserve anything that happens to them How many people do you think got that reference? 1. I got it; 2. fuck you in the nested quote for bringing that up and I'm not even Brazilian; and 3. redemption was already found. Seiya said: Hah!Some say it's because of that giant statue. However, the statue will apparently be soon replaced by a statue of Athena from Saint Seiya. |
GlennMagusHarveyJan 11, 2018 12:17 PM
| Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
| Also, I've gotten the feeling that anime doesn't commonly depict Latin America very much. This isn't a necessity, but it can help. |
| Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
Brazil. It's extremely cancerous. There are the 11 year olds who watch Boruto, DBS, SAO and start attacking anyone who says anything negative about those shows and keep stating they're perfect or amazing, and that's about 70% of the community. There are the other 20% who watch Attack on Titan, the popular show of the season, and a bunch of action ecchi shit and think they're the owner of the best taste and opinion. And the remaining is the non-toxic 10%. Where in the world 11 year old kids doesn't watch crappy shounen? It is the entry anime for any kid. Their brain is not developed yet. Don't expect them to understand that these animes are not the best in the world. |
AdrianRubinskyJan 11, 2018 2:16 PM
| Compared to Portugal anime in Brazil is bigger they have translators for clandestine websites just like kissanime and they are up to date so if i didn't understand english sadly i would have to watch anime with pt-br subs with low quality image other than that we have ways to buy merchandise here in Portugal so it's not all that bad. |
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Fran said: the fuckers got 7-1 they deserve anything that happens to them Vá se fuder, seu gringo imbecil. Ganhamos mais copas na história, babaca fdp viadinho. |
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