| there's this universal mindset among many that you can compare apples to oranges. not just mal, but everywhere. something like: you cant compare comedy shows to serious drama shows. you can compare sport shounen shows to horror shows. you can compare action shows to slice of life shows. i say yes you can. anyone can compare anything . however the comparison will be limited. you can compare two show's animation, how they handle thier themes, execution, or characters, etc.... an example: shinsekai yori (a horror show) to barakoman (slice of life) now each of them have different goals and themes. both tell very different story. the atmosphere is different. the genre is completely different. yet i believe you can compare the two. you can compare the characters for example. how rounded the characters in SSY compared to barakamon? how is thier whole cast compared to eachother? which show had better fleshed out characters? and so on it doesn't matter if one show has smaller cast than the other. another example: logh (space opera) and hyouge mono (samurai, historical) these shows are very different. logh has larger scope in its story, but its cast are inferior to hyouge mono. compared to hyouge mono, logh have many characters that arent good. logh have few good ones in fact. we might argue in that fact, but i dont think anyone can argue both have the same quality in cast department. this post doesn't argue wether you can say one show is better. thats not the point. the point is you can compare apples to oranges in certain aspects. what do you all think? (for the love of God read before you reply) |
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| Maybe comparing it the other aspects not just genre like you mentioned. Well whatever. |
but i said you can compare shows from different genres in certain aspects. i never said you can compare the genre it self. thats stupid. where did i say that? my point in the post is it doesn't matter what genre shows have or how much shows are different, you still can compare them |
Zoce_ said: but i said you can compare shows from different genres in certain aspects. i never said you can compare the genre it self. thats stupid. where did i say that? my point in the post is it doesn't matter what genre shows have or how much shows are different, you still can compare them how can u compare a funny show with a serious one ............ |
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| I compare shows across genres all the time. For example Steins;Gate is a Sci-Fi Thriller & I think its better than >Insert any show from any genre ever. Anyone who ranks anime, be it year end lists, etc is already comparing anime across different genres. I think this is very common. |
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Zoce_ said: but i said you can compare shows from different genres in certain aspects. i never said you can compare the genre it self. thats stupid. where did i say that? I think i misunderstood or something. Oh well i get what you're trying to say(maybe?). Just you're not clear enough that is. |
for the love of God read before you reply maybe if you read the post you would ask that. |
Johan said: I compare shows across genres all the time. For example Steins;Gate is a Sci-Fi Thriller & I think its better than >Insert any show from any genre ever. Anyone who ranks anime, be it year end lists, etc is already comparing anime across different genres. I think this is very common. i wish it was common my friend, i get many people telling me that i cant compare different shows yo each other. even people i know. |
Zoce_ said: for the love of God read before you reply maybe if you read the post you would ask that. My bad ..... didnt read properly before yup i kinda agree with ya about some aspects....... |
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| Is there anyway to mute someone on this website? |
Hagorama said: Is there anyway to mute someone on this website? If there was a way to mute someone i'd rather mute the pretentious elitist who's favourites are littered with "Yuasa" and dropped Little Witch Academia with a score of 4. |
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| you can compare apples to oranges when the comparison is about fruit as a whole |
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Edge_is_a_weapon said: Zoce_ said: there's this universal mindset among many that you can compare apples to oranges. not just mal, but everywhere. something like: you cant compare comedy shows to serious drama shows. you can compare sport shounen shows to horror shows. you can compare action shows to slice of life shows. i say yes you can. anyone can compare anything . however the comparison will be limited. you can compare two show's animation, how they handle thier themes, execution, or characters, etc.... an example: shinsekai yori (a horror show) to barakoman (slice of life) now each of them have different goals and themes. both tell very different story. the atmosphere is different. the genre is completely different. yet i believe you can compare the two. you can compare the characters for example. how rounded the characters in SSY compared to barakamon? how is thier whole cast compared to eachother? which show had better fleshed out characters? and so on it doesn't matter if one show has smaller cast than the other. another example: logh (space opera) and hyouge mono (samurai, historical) these shows are very different. logh has larger scope in its story, but its cast are inferior to hyouge mono. compared to hyouge mono, logh have many characters that arent good. logh have few good ones in fact. we might argue in that fact, but i dont think anyone can argue both have the same quality in cast department. this post doesn't argue wether you can say one show is better. thats not the point. the point is you can compare apples to oranges in certain aspects. what do you all think? (for the love of God read before you reply) thanks for wasting everybody's time. Damn that's hurt. Sad he was retired yesterday. |
yuurishibooty said: you can compare apples to oranges when the comparison is about fruit as a whole That's the point LOL. Big ups my man. |
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| Well, I have to say that I prefer Apple Juice over Orange Juice. Sorry, couldn't resist. Back to the point, yes you compare certain aspects of shows that are different genres, but I think only to some degree. For example, you can compare the quality of the movements of the characters in an action show with other genres that have fast movement scenes too. But I don't think you can compare it to a slice of life show that has no fast sequence scene. |
LalakoboldslayerJan 4, 2018 3:07 AM
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Lalakoboldslayer said: Well, I have to say that I prefer Apple Juice over Orange Juice. Sorry, couldn'r resist. Back to the point, yes you compare certain aspects of shows that are different genres, but I think only to some degree. For example, you can compare the quality of the movements of the characters in an action show with other genres that have fast movement scenes too. But I don't think you can compare it to a slice of life show that has no fast sequence scene. Sorry to bust your balls man, but Grape Juice master race incoming! |
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Johan said: Hagorama said: Is there anyway to mute someone on this website? If there was a way to mute someone i'd rather mute the pretentious elitist who's favourites are littered with "Yuasa" and dropped Little Witch Academia with a score of 4. Can't see how 2 out of 5 means "littered", don't think you know what "pretentious" or elitist even means, and little witch academia belonged in the garbage. |
Hagorama said: Johan said: If there was a way to mute someone i'd rather mute the pretentious elitist who's favourites are littered with "Yuasa" and dropped Little Witch Academia with a score of 4. Can't see how 2 out of 5 means "littered", don't think you know what "pretentious" or elitist even means, and little witch academia belonged in the garbage. The only thing that belongs in the garbage here is the two worthless posts you contributed to this thread, and your joke of a profile. |
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Johan said: Lalakoboldslayer said: Well, I have to say that I prefer Apple Juice over Orange Juice. Sorry, couldn'r resist. Sorry to bust your balls man, but Grape Juice master race incoming! I don't think so, Grape Juice taste is to strong, I prefer more subtle taste. |
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Lalakoboldslayer said: I don't think so, Grape Juice taste is to strong, I prefer more subtle taste. How about White Grape Juice then? Surely we can compromise here ;] |
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Johan said: Hagorama said: Can't see how 2 out of 5 means "littered", don't think you know what "pretentious" or elitist even means, and little witch academia belonged in the garbage. The only thing that belongs in the garbage here is the two worthless posts you contributed to this thread, and your joke of a profile. Boi is everything alright? I think you are projecting a little right now. Talk to someone close to you, it might be of some help. Godspeed. (i laid a yo mama joke for you, might give some satisfaction) Ps: I ain't that easy m8, need to work on yo bait game. |
Cladocera said: Then again, just like when you said "you can compare apples to oranges", you didn't take its literally meaning. Then why did you do that when people say the otherwise? comparing two people from only one aspect is still a comparison, right? so what is with the literal comparison or whatever |
Johan said: Lalakoboldslayer said: I don't think so, Grape Juice taste is to strong, I prefer more subtle taste. How about White Grape Juice then? Surely we can compromise here ;] To be fair, I never tasted White Grape Juice, but already ate White Grapes and I liked much more than their darker counterpart. I'll try White Grape Juice, thanks for the tip. |
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Hagorama said: https://myanimelist.net/editprofile.php?go=forumoptionsIs there anyway to mute someone on this website? Go to the bottom of page to add user to ignore. Just type their username there. |
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| You can compare them based on your preference for sure. But it is not recommended to blame an apple for not "taste like orange". |
| You realize that's why the term was coined, the reason you don't compare apples to oranges is because you stand nothing to gain from it. the comparison serves no purpose. It's the same with different genres, both bring something utterly different to the table so the comparison will be extremely limited or pointless. Same applies with shows from different genres. Genres have different tropes, different ways of deriving conflict and different plot devices. For example you can say one might have a pacing problem, but that means different things for shows in different genres. A battle shounen suffering from power escalation is in no way comparable to a romance manga suffering to ship baiting. |
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Xaelath said: Edge_is_a_weapon said: thanks for wasting everybody's time. Damn that's hurt. Sad he was retired yesterday. ah damn, his videos as Frank will still live on for situations like these. I wish him the best as Joji tho with his musical career and all. |
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| A show of X genre and a show of Y genre isn't necessarily apples to oranges. |
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| okay OP. in the end, what's your conclusion? the apple is still an apple and the orange is still an orange. i think the mindset is to not compare at all because what it is doesnt change. you can list all the differences or similarities all you want but the conclusion is that anime x and y are their own separate things. |
| Sure, you can compare them, as long as you're comparing some common aspect between them, though you might have to whittle them down to a very basic form. With anime: You can compare character designs. You can compare fluidity of motion. You can compare background artwork. You can compare ass-pulls or plot holes. etc. Trying to compare a comedy with a serious drama on how well they delivered the feels or the jokes, well, that doesn't work out so well. Trying to compare a mecha show with a magical girl show on how well the defeated their enemies, again, kinda hard to do. |
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| When people say "that's an apples to oranges comparison", they don't mean that it's impossible to compare them. As you say, Zoce_ said: which is exactly the point. There will always be some aspects to compare, but it's limited. The whole idea here is that the aspects you can compare are so limited that on a grand scale of things, comparing those aspects alone are meaningless. The comparable aspects are but a mere fraction of what either anime offers, so comparing them won't give a meaningful insight to how you like either of them.i say yes you can. anyone can compare anything . however the comparison will be limited. |
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| you can go to five or six stores, or just ONE. ngl i feel like OP is in dire need of help and this is the only way he can communicate. |
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Jack_100HP said: says the guy with an avatar that's eating an applei only compare bananas with kiwi dunno whats great about apples tho. one of the worst fruits i have eaten full of meat but no juice nor sweet |
CherryGuts said: you can go to five or six stores, or just ONE. ngl i feel like OP is in dire need of help and this is the only way he can communicate. you so througg and i feel now exposed and insecure. how could you tell? |
Zoce_ said: CherryGuts said: you can go to five or six stores, or just ONE. ngl i feel like OP is in dire need of help and this is the only way he can communicate. you so througg and i feel now exposed and insecure. how could you tell? idk man i just kinda had a feeling, y'know? |
| a w o o o o ~ |
| I think the idea this is based off is that some elements of 2 shows can't be compared due to their different intentions. While you can compare, let's say, how well Konosuba and higurashi flesh out their characters because both series have "having good characters" as one of their goals, comparing how they handle horror and drama is usually pointless because in this case, horror and drama just aren't konosuba's intention. Then someone who hadn't understood this idea must have said "can't compare 2 different genres", which made reductionists happy. And thus this idea spread to the entire internet. If i were to translate this to actual apples and oranges, you can't blame an apple for not being an orange because they didn't grow on the same tree, but you can compare their look and taste to say which one you prefer. |
| They only way that you can compare one genre to another, in entertainment mediums that are divided into genres, is by looking at how well one show manages to reach its target audience inside its respective genre compared to another. You can use finances to compare quality to an extent, but then you'd have to factor in things like the mainstream size of the genre, and how many programs are available for consumption within the genre. And then you'd have to factor in crossover appeal outside the series targeted demographic as well. One Piece, Pokemon, and Dragonball are three of the most profitable anime series of all time. OP and DB are both action/adventure series targeted to the same demographic, but Pokemon is a kids show. So how do they stack up to the mainstream giants from other genre's like Sailor Moon, Hellsing, Evangelion, Gurren Lagann, and Death Note? You'd have to compare the size of the action/adventure genre to the horror or magical girl or mecha genres. And the demographics that are watching these. And since many shows have crossover appeal in many sub-genres as well, that further affects how well the series reaches its audience. I think because of those factors it's impossible to say "anime X makes more money than anime Y, so it's better." For example Sailor Moon, Pretty Cure, and Madoka are all successful magical girl series. Same genre; different demographics. And all of them fall into different sub-genres as well. Sailor Moon is the most financially successful of the three, but that doesn't justify it being the "best" magical girl series. Because SM doesn't target the same demographics, or sub-genres that the other two might. Madoka is a psychological thriller, while Pretty Cure features fast paced, hard hitting, hand to hand combat style fights. Sailor Moon can be primarily classified as a romance series. You'd have to compare the romance genre to the action and thriller genres, and see how many other magical girl series are being offered as competition. I agree with the notion that you can compare genres, but it's difficult and head ache inducing. |
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