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2. Aura needs to understand that his aunt knew what she was getting into when she joined the CCG, and the potential sacrifices it would entail. He and Mutsuki's obsessions make them the perfect duo.

Dec 18, 2017 8:06 AM

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I really wish Ishida would have had them killed in the fight with Yomo. Mutsuki and Aura are both predictable, annoying, shitty, and nuisance characters.
Right now they are just an obstacle to a better storyline.

Dec 18, 2017 8:09 AM

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MUTSUKI NO!!!
For the love of Ishida, snap out of your madness!!!!
He's so badass though. He got eyes on his kagune, could it be he'd been munching some Kaneki prior to this?

Hsiao is such a badass too!! That kick to the boob must hurt like a bitch, I cringed.

Am I the only one who want some badass Touka moment. It's been ages since we see her figthing. The more reason why I hate the pregnant thing, sigh.

No Hide, so kinda meh but still much better than previous chapter.

Dec 18, 2017 8:37 AM

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Wow that was one hell of a chpter some really nice ass shots and boobies included damn Hsiao joined the beauty list in TG.

I wonder how strong Mutsuki really is and that last spread page was fantastic with Ishida's skill everything is possible.

Dec 18, 2017 8:55 AM

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Yessir Hsiao end that fucker Aura, go girl!
(Nice choice of angles in the panels with Hsiao btw)

Also is there any other way to end this other than killing Mutsuki? Like she clearly is not going to come to her senses again, she is lost...

Also this tracing abilitiy of hers... that's new right? I don't recall seing something like that before.

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The last page seemed incomplete for some reason,or rather it was not satisfying

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Dec 18, 2017 9:30 AM

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Nice Hsiao service ass usual ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Funny how aura talks about fighting as humans when he is using his kagune without hesitation.

just because I’ve gotten weaker, doesn’t mean that you got stronger, does it?

Dec 18, 2017 9:43 AM

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So, someone pointed out a bias in Mutsuki's translation, so I went to check it myself and gosh. Wow. Mistranslations is one thing, but to let your bias influence your translation is an unforgivable thing as a translator.

"Urie, if you die, I couldn't care less"
"うりえくん、ー死んでも、知らないからね"
"Urie-kun, ーshindemo, shiranai kara ne"

The english translation was a lot colder, also, in the raw, it's implied the death Mutsuki was talking about might be both Urie AND Mutsuki himself.

And also this sentence about his RC cells,

"It means, Mutsuki's suppressing them"
"制御しきっていると言う意味だよ”
"Seigyoshikitteiru to iu imi da yo"

制御する (seigyo suru) means control. You can look it up on google translate.
~きる (~kiru) means completely.
制御しきっている (seigyoshikitteiru) means controlling completely.

So, it should be "Mutsuki has complete control over his RC cells"

Why the translators choose the word suppressing?

Dec 18, 2017 9:58 AM

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As usual, every chapter including Mutsuki and Aura is a cringe fest. Like seriously, Aura blocked a punch from Hsiao, who is a f*cking demi-human, like it was nothing. And of course Mutsuki can just learn how to shape her kagune just like Saiko in a matter of miliseconds. And what the f*ck is with that kagune? The f*ck is she? Eto Jr.?

Dec 18, 2017 10:09 AM

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Does anyone know how many chapters we have left until the volume ends? With Touka searching for Kaneki again, I suspect his reappearance could be an end of volume cliffhanger.

Anyway this was another good chapter, I still don't think a Mutsuki redemption is beyond the realms ofpossibility, but we'll see. Waiting 2 weeks for the next one is gonna be difficult.

Dec 18, 2017 10:18 AM

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Wait...uh, was Mutsuki taking RC suppressants before in order to hide her RC cells count or is she still suppressing them? If it's the latter, then how come she has this f*cked up super powerful kagune? And I really wish she would stop getting ass-pull power-ups like that, it's so boring.

Dec 18, 2017 11:02 AM

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Bruh the bitch got kakuja kagune. I'm gonna jump off a cliff.

Dec 18, 2017 11:04 AM

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Mutsuki and Aura have to die, they are ruining my favorite manga. I'm serious. Every "ugh" or asspull moment has them involved. Mutsuki somehow regenerated her limbs and killed Torso, defeated Takizawa and etc., Aura could hit the ONE EYED KING...

I just wish Ishida made them disappear.

Mutsuki and Aura, just vanish for the sake of the quality of this manga.

I'm pissed with her power up.

NofurutaneitherKenonthelastchapteroftheyearbutwegotastupidMutuskipowerupcliffhanger/10

CRINGE

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Dec 18, 2017 11:12 AM

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Shicchi said:

制御する (seigyo suru) means control. You can look it up on google translate.
~きる (~kiru) means completely.
制御しきっている (seigyoshikitteiru) means controlling completely.

So, it should be "Mutsuki has complete control over his RC cells"

Why the translators choose the word suppressing?

It makes sense to translate it as "suppressing" than "complete control" since complete control can have a broader connotation. When you read the "suppressing" line with Mutsuki's RC count and the eventual usage of their RCs, it already establishes what type of control the person has.

Dec 18, 2017 12:18 PM

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How many Hsiao ass shots has it been? 2,3? I'm not complaining tho.

And I'm digging the kagune design for Mutsuki on the last page, reminds a lot of the old days on how Ishida used to draw the kagunes for ukaku users back in part 1.

I think she is trying to copy toukas it was hinted on her cover of re

Dec 18, 2017 12:19 PM

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sukizo said:

Shicchi said:

制御する (seigyo suru) means control. You can look it up on google translate.
~きる (~kiru) means completely.
制御しきっている (seigyoshikitteiru) means controlling completely.

So, it should be "Mutsuki has complete control over his RC cells"

Why the translators choose the word suppressing?

It makes sense to translate it as "suppressing" than "complete control" since complete control can have a broader connotation. When you read the "suppressing" line with Mutsuki's RC count and the eventual usage of their RCs, it already establishes what type of control the person has.

Wait, so Mutsuki has such control over her RC cells that she isn't suppressing them with the use of drugs but at will? Holy mother of OP power-ups. Next thing we know she'll be creating kagune clones like Uta.

And why did we only get that info now? It makes this looks so cheap and thrown there just for the sake of making the fight against her more difficult.

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Shicchi said:
MUTSUKI NO!!!
For the love of Ishida, snap out of your madness!!!!
He's so badass though. He got eyes on his kagune, could it be he'd been munching some Kaneki prior to this?

Hsiao is such a badass too!! That kick to the boob must hurt like a bitch, I cringed.

Am I the only one who want some badass Touka moment. It's been ages since we see her figthing. The more reason why I hate the pregnant thing, sigh.

No Hide, so kinda meh but still much better than previous chapter.

Well to be fare she has been in more fights while pregnant then oek kaneki at this point

Dec 18, 2017 12:22 PM

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fullmetal-ghoul said:
Does anyone know how many chapters we have left until the volume ends? With Touka searching for Kaneki again, I suspect his reappearance could be an end of volume cliffhanger.

Anyway this was another good chapter, I still don't think a Mutsuki redemption is beyond the realms ofpossibility, but we'll see. Waiting 2 weeks for the next one is gonna be difficult.

its like one or two chapters

mutsuki redemption if it happens is going to come in form of either v14 treatment thus becoming sasaki 2.0 or gets some sense after a beating and ends up like farneese in berserk.

Dec 18, 2017 12:55 PM

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Aura turn out to be a hypocrite with some sort of family complex.. who would had thought *sarcasm*

Dec 18, 2017 2:10 PM

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Not_Important said:

sukizo said:

It makes sense to translate it as "suppressing" than "complete control" since complete control can have a broader connotation. When you read the "suppressing" line with Mutsuki's RC count and the eventual usage of their RCs, it already establishes what type of control the person has.

Wait, so Mutsuki has such control over her RC cells that she isn't suppressing them with the use of drugs but at will? Holy mother of OP power-ups. Next thing we know she'll be creating kagune clones like Uta.

And why did we only get that info now? It makes this looks so cheap and thrown there just for the sake of making the fight against her more difficult.

That probably might be the case. Also, it might not be that far-fecthed considering we heard that Yonebayashi has great manipulation over the shape of her kagune due to hear imaginative mind. If we apply this to Mutsuki's state of mind, this could lead to more creative manipulations of her kagune.

Dec 18, 2017 2:14 PM

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Mutsuki is still alive, damn.

Dec 18, 2017 2:35 PM

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I hate her, wtf is her problem?
Wow that's ultimate form? :O
I wonder if there is chapter next week?

Dec 18, 2017 3:23 PM

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Then Mutsuki is so strong? I hate her.

Dec 18, 2017 4:34 PM

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Cyborg_Dragon said:

fullmetal-ghoul said:
Does anyone know how many chapters we have left until the volume ends? With Touka searching for Kaneki again, I suspect his reappearance could be an end of volume cliffhanger.

Anyway this was another good chapter, I still don't think a Mutsuki redemption is beyond the realms ofpossibility, but we'll see. Waiting 2 weeks for the next one is gonna be difficult.

its like one or two chapters

Thanks, I'm sure we'll get something quite big on Kaneki's condition and future in the next couple of chapters then.

Dec 18, 2017 6:17 PM

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so... tg:re is a shonen now?

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Dec 18, 2017 6:19 PM

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sukizo said:

Shicchi said:

制御する (seigyo suru) means control. You can look it up on google translate.
~きる (~kiru) means completely.
制御しきっている (seigyoshikitteiru) means controlling completely.

So, it should be "Mutsuki has complete control over his RC cells"

Why the translators choose the word suppressing?

It makes sense to translate it as "suppressing" than "complete control" since complete control can have a broader connotation. When you read the "suppressing" line with Mutsuki's RC count and the eventual usage of their RCs, it already establishes what type of control the person has.

That's one way to think it. Are you sure you will come to the conclusion of "complete control" if I didn't mention it? Are you sure people will come to the conclusion of "complete "control" only with those facts/context? Added with the fact about people's hatred towards Mutsuki, I can't help but felt the word suppressing done nothing but downgrading Mutsuki's level of power/control. People might come to the conclusion that Mutsuki has great or incredible control over it instead of complete control.

When you translate the word as it is, with the context of Mutsuki's RC cells count, people will come to the conclusion "suppressing" pretty easily, PLUS there will be a sense of dread of "what else Mutsuki is capable of with such complete control?" combined with that beautiful yet creepy panel of Mutsuki's Kagune transforming. I think that's what Ishida was aiming. The word "complete control" is not too broad. It's meant to be broad so reader will be wondering "what else Mutsuki's capable of with such control?" to plant a sense of dread and despair surrounding that panel, the unknown danger Urie and Saiko is about to face.

It's a poor translation choice imho. The translator bias/hatred towards the character might or might not affected their decision. Which is a pretty shitty thing for a translator.

But people will still grateful for the translation anyway including me. If your favorite character get treated like that by the translator you'd be pissed off as well. Luckily, Mutsuki is not my fav, but as a translator myself, I can't help but disgusted by it. Mistranslations I can tolerate, but letting your feelings towards some character affect your translation is a whole another case.

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Cyborg_Dragon said:

Shicchi said:
MUTSUKI NO!!!
For the love of Ishida, snap out of your madness!!!!
He's so badass though. He got eyes on his kagune, could it be he'd been munching some Kaneki prior to this?

Hsiao is such a badass too!! That kick to the boob must hurt like a bitch, I cringed.

Am I the only one who want some badass Touka moment. It's been ages since we see her figthing. The more reason why I hate the pregnant thing, sigh.

No Hide, so kinda meh but still much better than previous chapter.

Well to be fare she has been in more fights while pregnant then oek kaneki at this point

Kaneki can go fuck himself lol

But yeah, I don't care about him. Never really liked him in the first place especially him as OEK
However, I used to like Touka back in the day, and this chapter I just suddenly missed seeing her badass fight after seeing Hsiao and Mutsuki badassery this chapter

Dec 18, 2017 6:34 PM

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And why did we only get that info now? It makes this looks so cheap and thrown there just for the sake of making the fight against her more difficult.

While I don't really care about power level in tg, I read some meta about Mutsuki's power up. According to them, the power up didn't happen just now. It's been happening since the very beginning.
The trigger was the incident with Torso. Just like Yamori with Kaneki, Torso made Mutsuki accept the ghoul in him and been eating human ang ghoul since, just like Kaneki. Yomo's electric power catched him off guard, but he's still alive after that.

Dec 18, 2017 6:39 PM

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Phenomenal chapter,

Mutsuki- this isn't even my final form.

And Urie ghoul mode (I can call it ghoul made right) looks real cool.

Cant wait for suzuya or someone else to waste Mutsuki.

Dec 18, 2017 6:53 PM

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Shicchi said:

Not_Important said:
And why did we only get that info now? It makes this looks so cheap and thrown there just for the sake of making the fight against her more difficult.

While I don't really care about power level in tg, I read some meta about Mutsuki's power up. According to them, the power up didn't happen just now. It's been happening since the very beginning.
The trigger was the incident with Torso. Just like Yamori with Kaneki, Torso made Mutsuki accept the ghoul in him and been eating human ang ghoul since, just like Kaneki. Yomo's electric power catched him off guard, but he's still alive after that.

I know she has been getting progressively stronger since the Torso arc but we never got to know about or see her ability to control RC cells and even her kagune.

Saiko's regarded as a genius when it comes to kagune manipulation but Mutsuki managed to match her perfectly. We never got to see how she got to that point and that's what pisses me off about her development, it was mainly done off-screen.

Dec 18, 2017 7:14 PM

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Not_Important said:

Shicchi said:

While I don't really care about power level in tg, I read some meta about Mutsuki's power up. According to them, the power up didn't happen just now. It's been happening since the very beginning.
The trigger was the incident with Torso. Just like Yamori with Kaneki, Torso made Mutsuki accept the ghoul in him and been eating human ang ghoul since, just like Kaneki. Yomo's electric power catched him off guard, but he's still alive after that.

I know she has been getting progressively stronger since the Torso arc but we never got to know about or see her ability to control RC cells and even her kagune.

Saiko's regarded as a genius when it comes to kagune manipulation but Mutsuki managed to match her perfectly. We never got to see how she got to that point and that's what pisses me off about her development, it was mainly done off-screen.

Remember that she didnt even managed to manifest her Kagune in the first place at the beginning of TG:re? Pretty sure that's just her alter-ego (the psycho side) (un)conciously suppressing it with complete control. If she did have that kind of control and RC count in the beginning and the Torso arc only act as a catalyst to wake her up from her delusion, kinda makes sense for her to regenerate her limbs easily in that arc. Add to the fact that she's been secrectly eating human/ghoul flesh as implied in the Auction raid arc, then she'd have a pretty strong Kagune by now.

Dec 18, 2017 10:45 PM

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My thoughts about this chapter

I hate mutsuki
I'm tired of her character
Someone kill her already
And by that, dead people stay dead please
Even cockroach isnt this stubborn

Dec 19, 2017 3:11 AM

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So people hate Aura because he shows human characteristics of not suddenly cooperating with the common enemy? Ok.

(i'm not saying he's doing the right thing, but his actions aren't unnatural either)

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Cyborg_Dragon said:

Kryptiq said:

How many Hsiao ass shots has it been? 2,3? I'm not complaining tho.

And I'm digging the kagune design for Mutsuki on the last page, reminds a lot of the old days on how Ishida used to draw the kagunes for ukaku users back in part 1.

I think she is trying to copy toukas it was hinted on her cover of re

If you don't mind, could you go into more detail about that? I don't believe I heard that one before.

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FFS, for how long is Ishida planning to shove Mutsuki down our throats? Just kill that abomination of a character already.

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So people hate Aura because he shows human characteristics of not suddenly cooperating with the common enemy? Ok.

(i'm not saying he's doing the right thing, but his actions aren't unnatural either)

I don't think people are mad at Aura for taking pride in not wanting to work with ghouls (that actually sounds completely reasonable), people are mad rather with how irracional and hypocritical he is acting. He speaks in not wanting to side with ghouls, yet he blidly follows Mutsuki in protecting one (kaneki).

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SeidouTZ said:

Azurblau said:
So people hate Aura because he shows human characteristics of not suddenly cooperating with the common enemy? Ok.

(i'm not saying he's doing the right thing, but his actions aren't unnatural either)

I don't think people are mad at Aura for taking pride in not wanting to work with ghouls (that actually sounds completely reasonable), people are mad rather with how irracional and hypocritical he is acting. He speaks in not wanting to side with ghouls, yet he blidly follows Mutsuki in protecting one (kaneki).

But I was guessing that was to kill Kaneki in the end. You do have a point though.

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Azurblau said:

SeidouTZ said:

I don't think people are mad at Aura for taking pride in not wanting to work with ghouls (that actually sounds completely reasonable), people are mad rather with how irracional and hypocritical he is acting. He speaks in not wanting to side with ghouls, yet he blidly follows Mutsuki in protecting one (kaneki).

But I was guessing that was to kill Kaneki in the end. You do have a point though.

The past chapter makes it seem like Mutsuki would rather wanna see Kaneki in this state forever than either try to kill or save him. Otherwise she/he would have not interfered with the operation and kill kaneki afterwards.
Either way their reasons are not apparent thats for sure.

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It makes sense to translate it as "suppressing" than "complete control" since complete control can have a broader connotation. When you read the "suppressing" line with Mutsuki's RC count and the eventual usage of their RCs, it already establishes what type of control the person has.

That's one way to think it. Are you sure you will come to the conclusion of "complete control" if I didn't mention it? Are you sure people will come to the conclusion of "complete "control" only with those facts/context? Added with the fact about people's hatred towards Mutsuki, I can't help but felt the word suppressing done nothing but downgrading Mutsuki's level of power/control. People might come to the conclusion that Mutsuki has great or incredible control over it instead of complete control.

When you translate the word as it is, with the context of Mutsuki's RC cells count, people will come to the conclusion "suppressing" pretty easily, PLUS there will be a sense of dread of "what else Mutsuki is capable of with such complete control?" combined with that beautiful yet creepy panel of Mutsuki's Kagune transforming. I think that's what Ishida was aiming. The word "complete control" is not too broad. It's meant to be broad so reader will be wondering "what else Mutsuki's capable of with such control?" to plant a sense of dread and despair surrounding that panel, the unknown danger Urie and Saiko is about to face.

It's a poor translation choice imho. The translator bias/hatred towards the character might or might not affected their decision. Which is a pretty shitty thing for a translator.

But people will still grateful for the translation anyway including me. If your favorite character get treated like that by the translator you'd be pissed off as well. Luckily, Mutsuki is not my fav, but as a translator myself, I can't help but disgusted by it. Mistranslations I can tolerate, but letting your feelings towards some character affect your translation is a whole another case.

Reading this reply has me in agreement with the usage of "complete control," looking at the mention of Mutsuki's RC count made it seem more approriate to me.

Dec 19, 2017 2:13 PM

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Can Ishida get rid of this shitty ass character called Mutsuki already, I am sick of seeing "it"

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SeidouTZ said:

Azurblau said:
So people hate Aura because he shows human characteristics of not suddenly cooperating with the common enemy? Ok.

(i'm not saying he's doing the right thing, but his actions aren't unnatural either)

I don't think people are mad at Aura for taking pride in not wanting to work with ghouls (that actually sounds completely reasonable), people are mad rather with how irracional and hypocritical he is acting. He speaks in not wanting to side with ghouls, yet he blidly follows Mutsuki in protecting one (kaneki).

Mutsuki isn't trying to protect Kaneki though, he said it himself "As long as no one else has him I don't care". Aura follows Mutsuki so he can kill Kaneki, as revenge for what Kaneki did to his aunt. It's a shallow character arc, but at the very least his actions are understandable.

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SeidouTZ said:

I don't think people are mad at Aura for taking pride in not wanting to work with ghouls (that actually sounds completely reasonable), people are mad rather with how irracional and hypocritical he is acting. He speaks in not wanting to side with ghouls, yet he blidly follows Mutsuki in protecting one (kaneki).

Mutsuki isn't trying to protect Kaneki though, he said it himself "As long as no one else has him I don't care". Aura follows Mutsuki so he can kill Kaneki, as revenge for what Kaneki did to his aunt. It's a shallow character arc, but at the very least his actions are understandable.

The same quote can be interpreted as Mutsuki wanting Kaneki to remain in this state forever (a punish worse then dead if you will) then see him with Touka, wich would at the same time justify his curent course of action to some extent (after all if Mutsuki wanted to kill Kaneki so bad he could had waited for the whole operation to conclude and then take that opportunity to kill him instead of wasting time with infightings).
But whatever maybe i am trying to rationalize a unsensical situation.

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SeidouTZ said:

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Mutsuki isn't trying to protect Kaneki though, he said it himself "As long as no one else has him I don't care". Aura follows Mutsuki so he can kill Kaneki, as revenge for what Kaneki did to his aunt. It's a shallow character arc, but at the very least his actions are understandable.

The same quote can be interpreted as Mutsuki wanting Kaneki to remain in this state forever (a punish worse then dead if you will) then see him with Touka, wich would at the same time justify his curent course of action to some extent (after all if Mutsuki wanted to kill Kaneki so bad he could had waited for the whole operation to conclude and then take that opportunity to kill him instead of wasting time with infightings).
But whatever maybe i am trying to rationalize a unsensical situation.

In the current situation, I think you're right. He doesn't want Kaneki to return so that no one can have him, whether that means he's dead or stuck as Dragon. But in regards to that quote I was more referring to Mutsuki's past actions, like when he attacked Kaneki at :Re cafe, and when he "killed" Uta's clone of Haise, and how those actions link to Aura following Mutsuki, which is to kill and take revenge on Kaneki. Their aims are still the same right now, to keep Kaneki in this Dragon state, so I don't think he's being a hypocrite by following Mutsuki. Mutsuki hasn't been trying to protect Kaneki, not for a while now.

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fullmetal-ghoul said:

SeidouTZ said:

The same quote can be interpreted as Mutsuki wanting Kaneki to remain in this state forever (a punish worse then dead if you will) then see him with Touka, wich would at the same time justify his curent course of action to some extent (after all if Mutsuki wanted to kill Kaneki so bad he could had waited for the whole operation to conclude and then take that opportunity to kill him instead of wasting time with infightings).
But whatever maybe i am trying to rationalize a unsensical situation.

In the current situation, I think you're right. He doesn't want Kaneki to return so that no one can have him, whether that means he's dead or stuck as Dragon. But in regards to that quote I was more referring to Mutsuki's past actions, like when he attacked Kaneki at :Re cafe, and when he "killed" Uta's clone of Haise, and how those actions link to Aura following Mutsuki, which is to kill and take revenge on Kaneki. Their aims are still the same right now, to keep Kaneki in this Dragon state, so I don't think he's being a hypocrite by following Mutsuki. Mutsuki hasn't been trying to protect Kaneki, not for a while now.

Taking in consideration all Mutsuki past actions it would make sense he would wanna see Kaneki dead yeah i agree.. but right now he doesnt seem to wanna kill kaneki, rather he seem more accepting of the fact that he should stay stuck as Dragon forever.
After all it should be apparent by now that is impossible to kill that thing using any conventional method, so it begs the question: if you wanted to kill kaneki so bad why not wait for the operation to conclude, have them extract his main body and then kill him then?
Regardless of what is their stance regarding the alliance or any other ulterior motive may be, it is illogical for them to intervene, more so, in the precise moment they were about to find his main body.. and shortly afterwards saying the quote you mentioned.

Maybe i am looking to much into this, but Mutsuki motives are definitely not apparent and Aura blind loyalty makes him seem like a hypocrite (if everything i mentioned previously confirms) after what was shown in this chapter.

Dec 20, 2017 9:21 AM

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Aardwolf94

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Fuck this arc is boring right now. Mutsuki and Aura are the most annoying and uninteresting villians of the series. After the treatment Eto, the Washuu and Kanou got I guess we are left with these jokes.

And why on earth are people still calling Mutsuki a "he"? She clearly sees herself as a woman, post Rue island that is.

Dec 20, 2017 9:23 AM

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